Jack Tretton: 'We Are Happy With The PS Vita'

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#51 HaloPimp978
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The hardware is outstanding, but they NEED to get games out on it, great ones, on a consistent basis. It looks like they have some heavy hitters coming this fall, so that's good.

What they really need to do is deliver on the promises they had before launch. Supposedly Vita would be able to play scaled own versions of PS3 games -- so where's THAT feature? Do they not realize that would make Vita an immediate, necessary purchase for the vast majority of PS3 owners? And how could PS1 classics compatibility not be available out of the gate? Some really frustrating aspects to Vita, but if they can get those straightened out very quickly, and keep the games coming in, I think they it can be a pretty successful little handheld.

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#52 Blake135
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Damage control denied.

PS Vita is still the most ironically named console ever.

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Found that really funny.

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#53 famicommander
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[QUOTE="kyacat"]Sony need to stop fooing around and start getting games for the vita that are not PS3 ports and drop the price on both the vita and memory card for the vitaAdmiralBison
That's a tall order for Sony. I think they would prefer to weather it out and use the very, very slow burner approach.

They have to act soon or stores won't want to sell it. Low sales beget poor third party support and low shelf space, both of which beget further low sales. Either they act soon or the system dies, period. Some of us aren't too sure it isn't too late already.
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#54 p4s2p0
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They have a good product. But the product doesn't have what the product was designed for.

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Ya they do I love playing online shooters on it. Finally a portable with dual analogs
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#55 AM-Gamer
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I think they're obligated to be as positive as possible about the Vita and it's future until they pull the plug.

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They wont pull the plug , I think once they drop the price of it , comeout with the PS4 and integrate it with the new console it will be fine.

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#56 AM-Gamer
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[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"][QUOTE="kyacat"]Sony need to stop fooing around and start getting games for the vita that are not PS3 ports and drop the price on both the vita and memory card for the vitafamicommander
That's a tall order for Sony. I think they would prefer to weather it out and use the very, very slow burner approach.

They have to act soon or stores won't want to sell it. Low sales beget poor third party support and low shelf space, both of which beget further low sales. Either they act soon or the system dies, period. Some of us aren't too sure it isn't too late already.

Timing is everything, i would not expect a price drop untill this holiday season which would be the perfect time, I say around November.

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#57 AM-Gamer
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oh wow they obviously are liars,

the vita will be dead by 2013 , there is nothing i want on the thing and to make matters worst even people who want one wont buy 1 until there is a game or two cause that 250.00 price tag is heck of expensive

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Not sure how you cant be pumped for this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X735XlruTqg

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#58 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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It's really sad because the Vita is a lot better than the 3DS, but the software support just isn't there yet. Hopefully it'll pick up soon.

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#59 Bigboi500
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:lol: Tretton has been well known for saying stupid things, but this takes the cake.

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[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="AdmiralBison"] That's a tall order for Sony. I think they would prefer to weather it out and use the very, very slow burner approach.AM-Gamer

They have to act soon or stores won't want to sell it. Low sales beget poor third party support and low shelf space, both of which beget further low sales. Either they act soon or the system dies, period. Some of us aren't too sure it isn't too late already.

Timing is everything, i would not expect a price drop untill this holiday season which would be the perfect time, I say around November.

It will not change anything. Vita is going to get lost in the shuffle with WiiU, two NSMB games, 3DS XL, BLOPS2, AC3, Halo 4, Pokemon B/W2, new DSi colors, and possible 360/PS3/Wii revisions and price drops. The problem is they are relying on Assassin's Creed and Black Ops Declassified to sell the system. That just isn't going to happen -- certainly not at 250, but not at 200 or even 150. Those games have established fanbases that will be getting AC3 and BO2 on their PC/console of choice. That's a minimum 60 dollar investment and that assumes no CE or Elite. Do you really expect that they will ALSO get a Vita, memory card, and game just to play a spinoff? ..
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Translation: Our stock is so ****ed right now that I am only allowed to make positive sounding non-statements regarding product performance.

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#62 Mario1331
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It's really sad because the Vita is a lot better than the 3DS, but the software support just isn't there yet. Hopefully it'll pick up soon.

OB-47

thats debateable, the hardware yes but everything else? i dont think so

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#63 Ghost120x
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I'm happy with my vita. If fact, I play it more than my 3ds. I will judge the vita's performance after the summer drought is over with because everyone knows that fall is when all the major games come.
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#64 Fizzman
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Now that my friends is what we like to call damage control.


He cant say anything else. He knows the Vita is dying, but Sony is already hemorrhaging cash so going about and telling the truth will only make it worse.

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#65 ferrari_102
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At least it's nice and shiny.

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#66 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

It's really sad because the Vita is a lot better than the 3DS, but the software support just isn't there yet. Hopefully it'll pick up soon.

Mario1331

thats debateable, the hardware yes but everything else? i dont think so

The feature are pretty darn good as well I think. Overall, it just feels like a much better system. But it's the games that matter in the end, and if we don't see the heavy hitters soon then PSvita is fvcked.

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#67 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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DS vs Psp all over again. Though at least the psp had that initial hype and excitement.
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#68 quickposter
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This is the Game Gear versus Game Boy all over again. The Vita is a far better system than the 3DS on just about every level, but the library support just isn't there! *face palms*JustPlainLucas

I don't know why people always think it will turn out differently. This isn't the console market where the balance of power can shift at any given moment. As long as Nintendo come up with good handhelds they will always come out on top, even if Sony change their approach. Cows need to accept that Sony is past it's prime and they are only going downhill from here. They will never rise to the dominance they had with PS2 again. They are a different company now.

This is damage control of the highest level. 100, 000 vitas sold here and your happy with that? Ok Sony. But you must have lowered your targets a lot lower since your last report about 2 weeks ago if your happy.

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#69 Shinobishyguy
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DS vs Psp all over again. Though at least the psp had that initial hype and excitement.Heirren
Not even, atleast the psp managed to put up a decent fight. This is more like the gba vs.the N-gage
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#70 Blake135
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[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]This is the Game Gear versus Game Boy all over again. The Vita is a far better system than the 3DS on just about every level, but the library support just isn't there! *face palms*quickposter

I don't know why people always think it will turn out differently. This isn't the console market where the balance of power can shift at any given moment. As long as Nintendo come up with good handhelds they will always come out on top, even if Sony change their approach. Cows need to accept that Sony is past it's prime and they are only going downhill from here. They will never rise to the dominance they had with PS2 again. They are a different company now.

This is damage control of the highest level. 100, 000 vitas sold here and your happy with that? Ok Sony. But you must have lowered your targets a lot lower since your last report about 2 weeks ago if your happy.

The person your quoting never said DAM THE VITA IS STILL GONNA GO WELL. He said it is probably in terms of hardware and features the best handheld out so far, however sadly it doesn't have the games to back it up. Im not even going to bother arguing with the rest of your post...

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The person your quoting never said DAM THE VITA IS STILL GONNA GO WELL. He said it is probably in terms of hardware and features the best handheld out so far, however sadly it doesn't have the games to back it up. Im not even going to bother arguing with the rest of your post...

Blake135

I'm not talking about him. This time last year on this very board this is what the majority here were saying. In fact most of the internet was saying it. A lot of people expect Sony to outsell the competition the second they show something. Just watch what happens the second they show PS4 and you'll see what I mean. Wii U and 720 will be made completely irrelevant.

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#72 Blake135
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[QUOTE="Blake135"]

The person your quoting never said DAM THE VITA IS STILL GONNA GO WELL. He said it is probably in terms of hardware and features the best handheld out so far, however sadly it doesn't have the games to back it up. Im not even going to bother arguing with the rest of your post...

quickposter

I'm not talking about him. This time last year on this very board this is what the majority here were saying. In fact most of the internet was saying it. A lot of people expect Sony to outsell the competition the second they show something. Just watch what happens the second they show PS4 and you'll see what I mean. Wii U and 720 will be made completely irrelevant.

Really who has seen saying it will outsell its competition ? fakeboys ? cause hell I never saw anyone with a sound mind saying ITS GONNA SELL HEAPS. Personally I thought it was going to do as well as the PsP meaning sell decent numbers but nothing earth shattering. However that was awhile ago and clearly Sony is having problems.

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#73 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="quickposter"]

[QUOTE="Blake135"]

The person your quoting never said DAM THE VITA IS STILL GONNA GO WELL. He said it is probably in terms of hardware and features the best handheld out so far, however sadly it doesn't have the games to back it up. Im not even going to bother arguing with the rest of your post...

Blake135

I'm not talking about him. This time last year on this very board this is what the majority here were saying. In fact most of the internet was saying it. A lot of people expect Sony to outsell the competition the second they show something. Just watch what happens the second they show PS4 and you'll see what I mean. Wii U and 720 will be made completely irrelevant.

Really who has seen saying it will outsell its competition ? fakeboys ? cause hell I never saw anyone with a sound mind saying ITS GONNA SELL HEAPS. Personally I thought it was going to do as well as the PsP meaning sell decent numbers but nothing earth shattering. However that was awhile ago and clearly Sony is having problems.

You're living in fantasy land if you think posters like Atarikid and Finalstar are fakeboys.

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#74 tarzanell
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Get this straight, children: executives NEED to be positive. They are PR reps as much as they are managers. Also, FYI, the Vita doesn't even have the holiday season to improve. THEY HAVE ONE MONTH. Gamescom and TGS MUST be phenomenal, or they'll be setting up to work with what they've got this holiday season. That means failure. This is fact.
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#75 campzor
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[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

http://www.edge-online.com/news/iwata-admits-3ds-sales-disappointment

huehuehue.

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And this, cows, is the difference between Nintendo and Sony, and the reason the 3DS is doing so great and the PS Vita is not: Nintendo admits to there being a problem, and hell, even when the numbers are fully acceptable by any reasonable standard, express dissatisfaction publicly. Meanwhile we have Sony, who like to pretend that the Vita is doing great, when it has had the worst sales performance for any commercial mainstream system since the goddamn N Gage.

derp.

ye im sure thats the reason why the 3ds is doing so great because they can admit the disappointment

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#76 Blake135
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[QUOTE="Blake135"]

[QUOTE="quickposter"]

I'm not talking about him. This time last year on this very board this is what the majority here were saying. In fact most of the internet was saying it. A lot of people expect Sony to outsell the competition the second they show something. Just watch what happens the second they show PS4 and you'll see what I mean. Wii U and 720 will be made completely irrelevant.

Bigboi500

Really who has seen saying it will outsell its competition ? fakeboys ? cause hell I never saw anyone with a sound mind saying ITS GONNA SELL HEAPS. Personally I thought it was going to do as well as the PsP meaning sell decent numbers but nothing earth shattering. However that was awhile ago and clearly Sony is having problems.

You're living in fantasy land if you think posters like Atarikid and Finalstar are fakeboys.

A small minority on one website ? Idk about you but that is not many...

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="OhJayDubya"]You have to admire Sony's optimism but to be honest with how piss poor this console has sold when it is such a beast is pathetic. This console should be flying off the shelves but next to no decent game support and a price which most people wont pay when they can buy a PS3 or XBOX for a few notes more.OhJayDubya
A few notes less, you mean.

Oh my bad, thought it was only slightly cheaper then consoles.

That's my problem with it. Why am I going to get a Vita when I could gat a PS3 for slightly less. While the Vita will probably have lots of dumbed down PS3 games.

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[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"][QUOTE="kyacat"]Sony need to stop fooing around and start getting games for the vita that are not PS3 ports and drop the price on both the vita and memory card for the vitafamicommander
That's a tall order for Sony. I think they would prefer to weather it out and use the very, very slow burner approach.

They have to act soon or stores won't want to sell it. Low sales beget poor third party support and low shelf space, both of which beget further low sales. Either they act soon or the system dies, period. Some of us aren't too sure it isn't too late already.

Oh well. not much more else I can do to actually help it. I did my part and bought a Vita with 3 Vita games, 3 PSN games and 3 memory cards a few months ago. I probably support the Vita more then the average Cow here and I give it crap at every turn.LOL
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[QUOTE="RulerofGondor"][QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

http://www.edge-online.com/news/iwata-admits-3ds-sales-disappointment

huehuehue.

campzor

And this, cows, is the difference between Nintendo and Sony, and the reason the 3DS is doing so great and the PS Vita is not: Nintendo admits to there being a problem, and hell, even when the numbers are fully acceptable by any reasonable standard, express dissatisfaction publicly. Meanwhile we have Sony, who like to pretend that the Vita is doing great, when it has had the worst sales performance for any commercial mainstream system since the goddamn N Gage.

derp.

ye im sure thats the reason why the 3ds is doing so great because they can admit the disappointment

It's part of the reason.When a corporation comes clean,and shows some honesty by admiting their shortcomings,that's a big plus in my book as a consumer.Nintendo saw 3DS shortcomings,admitted them,and started fixing them...

Sweeping issues under the rug isn't a good idea,and that's exactly what Sony is doing with Vita.I don't care about handheld gaming at all,so whatever happens,doesn't affect me in any way,but I expect to see Vita discountinued by the end of the year,dropping out of the map like PSP GO...

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#80 quickposter
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I think its too early to say if its "another PSP Go". It will depend how much things pick up at Christmas I guess. If you ask me what Sony need is a price drop. I don't care what is under the hood of the system. Its obvious handheld consumers say "£150 maximum or stick it where the sun don't shine". At least for gaming dedicated handhelds.

If they drop the price they will see them fly off the shelves. And I think a memory card is a requirement if some games won't work without one.

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"We realize that it's a marathon and not a sprint," Tretton said.

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#82 AdmiralBison
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"We realize that it's a marathon and not a sprint," Tretton said.

ebrezzy1
Yes but wasn't the PSP vs DS a marathon? Also by the time IF PS Vita catches up to the 3DS the next generation of handhelds will probably start rolling out.
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There's hardly any games out and a number of the early titles feel a bit slapdash (I'm looking at you Mortal Kombat) it's hard to see how someone could have expected it to sell like hotcakes. If anything it sounds like he's just being realistic and actually is perfectly happy with the sales considering the circumstances.
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[QUOTE="OhJayDubya"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] A few notes less, you mean.HalcyonScarlet

Oh my bad, thought it was only slightly cheaper then consoles.

That's my problem with it. Why am I going to get a Vita when I could gat a PS3 for slightly less. While the Vita will probably have lots of dumbed down PS3 games.

Because we cant' play ps3 anywhere what I like portables to begin with. Vita will have quite a few multiplat games like any system but will still have plenty of original games also, 2 of the 3 I have so far aren't on ps3.
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#85 Zeviander
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I bet they could be a lot happier. EDIT: Maybe this is why they aren't trying harder to get it moving?
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There's hardly any games out and a number of the early titles feel a bit slapdash (I'm looking at you Mortal Kombat) it's hard to see how someone could have expected it to sell like hotcakes. If anything it sounds like he's just being realistic and actually is perfectly happy with the sales considering the circumstances.Ilikemyname420
Psp had more ports at the begining than vita but not more games. I expected vita to do better than psp since I like the games more early on. But having good games doesn't guarantee good system sales.
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#87 rjdofu
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No, this is ridiculous. How the hell can you happy with the Vita at this stage? It is outsold by the PSP for F sake.

It's like your son doing sh!t at school and you say you're happy with that. NO!

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#88 jsmoke03
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lol cows doing damage control at the highest level....vita sales is unnaceptable if less than 100k per month

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#89 p4s2p0
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No, this is ridiculous. How the hell can you happy with the Vita at this stage?rjdofu

Cause I enjoy the system and games just like people did with n64 and cube that didn't do so well in sales compared to the competition.

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#90 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

No, this is ridiculous. How the hell can you happy with the Vita at this stage?p4s2p0

Cause I enjoy the system and games just like people did with n64 and cube that didn't do so well in sales compared to the competition.

I'm talking about Sony, as a business company, not at a personal standpoint. You can feel whatever you want, that's your opinion. You happy with it? Good for you. In fact, I'm quite happy with my Vita; i've got quite a few games for it. But it makes no sense for Sony to happy about this situation.
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#91 p4s2p0
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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="rjdofu"]

No, this is ridiculous. How the hell can you happy with the Vita at this stage?rjdofu

Cause I enjoy the system and games just like people did with n64 and cube that didn't do so well in sales compared to the competition.

I'm talking about Sony, as a business company, not at a personal standpoint. You can feel whatever you want, that's your opinion. You happy with it? Good for you. In fact, I'm quite happy with my Vita; i've got quite a few games for it. But it makes no sense for Sony to happy about this situation.

I see then you should have said how can they be happy at this stage. Which I'm sure they aren't
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

All night LONGGG

"all night" LOONG

ALL night LOOONG

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New poll...Who is more relevant Lionel Ritchie or psvita....I vote Lionel

Lionel Richie hasn't been relevant since the 80's, gtfo

Lie. Nicole Richie was a psuedo celebrity in this decade and she wouldnt exist without Lionel Richie.
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#93 freedomfreak
Member since 2004 • 52544 Posts

Washington called.

They want their DC back.

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#94 ShadowMoses900
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Charizard has issues, he is obsessed with this.

The Vita needs more games, a price drop would be nice too. Especially on those memory cards.

But Sony did make a great handheld all things considered, it's design and tech destroys the 3DS, it's such a far better experience playing on a Vita over a 3DS. It just feels better, it's comfortable, the screen is so nice. But 3DS wins because it has more games.

I really think the Vita needs some time, the PSP was very successful.

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#95 rjdofu
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Charizard has issues, he is obsessed with this.

The Vita needs more games, a price drop would be nice too. Especially on those memory cards.

But Sony did make a great handheld all things considered, it's design and tech destroys the 3DS, it's such a far better experience playing on a Vita over a 3DS. It just feels better, it's comfortable, the screen is so nice. But 3DS wins because it has more games.

I really think the Vita needs some time, the PSP was very successful.

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it was utterly dominated by the DS though.
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Charizard has issues, he is obsessed with this.

The Vita needs more games, a price drop would be nice too. Especially on those memory cards.

But Sony did make a great handheld all things considered, it's design and tech destroys the 3DS, it's such a far better experience playing on a Vita over a 3DS. It just feels better, it's comfortable, the screen is so nice. But 3DS wins because it has more games.

I really think the Vita needs some time, the PSP was very successful.

rjdofu
it was utterly dominated by the DS though.

Still I don't think any company would complain if they sold 70 Million units like the PSP did.
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#98 arkephonic
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I am happy with my PS Vita as well.

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#99 RyanShazam
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With the 3DS already having a great list of games I dont seen many people buying Vitas over the 3DS this holiday season.

I personally know a few people who wanted a Vita but are now looking into getting a 3DS.

We will see.

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#100 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Charizard has issues, he is obsessed with this.

The Vita needs more games, a price drop would be nice too. Especially on those memory cards.

But Sony did make a great handheld all things considered, it's design and tech destroys the 3DS, it's such a far better experience playing on a Vita over a 3DS. It just feels better, it's comfortable, the screen is so nice. But 3DS wins because it has more games.

I really think the Vita needs some time, the PSP was very successful.

OhJayDubya
it was utterly dominated by the DS though.

Still I don't think any company would complain if they sold 70 Million units like the PSP did.

Can they pull another 70 mil with the Vita? Or even just 40-50 mil at this rate and with this "happy" attitude?