Jade Raymond: Splinter Cell "Too Complex"

Jade Raymond: Splinter Cell popularity held back by its complexity

gaf

The only SC game i played was conviction..and though i enjoyed aspects of it.. it did feel very basic..and the stealth was pretty average

Oh, the perfectionist mode sounds good.

Hopefully it will at least bring the game back to the roots that started the series, but I doubt it.

Cyberdot

Yeah, I wish it went back to the "Your gun should always be your last resort" way,

and not the:

"Here, have a pistol with unlimited bullets that can kill people for you in rapid succession without even needing to aim, and just for good measure we are throwing in a vast aresnal of assualt rifles and shotguns for extra shooting"

Wasn't Splinter Cell popular on the Xbox with games like Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory? I loved both of those games when I was younger and I was no genius. I was so disappointed that the Splinter Cell games on the next gen consoles turned out to be sh*t because they messed with the formula to try and appeal to a wider audience.

Why does Splinter Cell need to cater to people who want nothing but action? Ubisoft already have IPs for that. Leave SC as a pure stealth game for goodness sake!

Edit: In the trailer all Sam Fisher does is take down his opponents. I remember in the old Splinter Cell games I got the biggest thrill from getting through a mission WITHOUT killing anyone.

Wasn't Splinter Cell popular on the Xbox with games like Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory? I loved both of those games when I was younger and I was no genius. I was so disappointed that the Splinter Cell games on the next gen consoles turned out to be sh*t because they messed with the formula to try and appeal to a wider audience. Why does Splinter Cell need to cater to people who want nothing but action? Ubisoft already have IPs for that. Leave SC as a pure stealth game for goodness sake!PernicioEnigma

Agreed.

I can remember playing old Splinter Cell games on PS2. They are soooo good, those are proper stealth games. It's great that Steam have them, so they can be played on the PC.

I noticed that I'm more of a retro gamer than I used to be these days, and the reason for that is obvious.

So, are they going to dumb it down even more?

I will refuse to buy Blacklist if it's too easy and dumbed down, but I have a gut feeling that it will.

"You can climb up, do 3D navigation and jump over things without thinking too much or pressing buttons,"

They aren't even ashamed of articulating it. I played AC3 to the end and it was the most rubbish thing I've touched in years.

Jade Raymond: Splinter Cell popularity held back by its complexity

campzor

But that's a good thing.

:( I can't believe I used to have a crush on her..  GRR!

Too complex my ass. Millions of people enjoy complex games like MMOs, RTS. Trying to appeal to the casual COD audience will probably backfire, I hope it does. Disregarding your fans like this is shameful.

Wel at least the perfectionist mode is there. Mark and execute annoyed me in Conviction. I'm also glad they are bringing back none lethal takedowns, hiding bodies, and the green night vision :)

Oh, the perfectionist mode sounds good.

Hopefully it will at least bring the game back to the roots that started the series, but I doubt it.

A Jade Raymond thread and no pics.... 

for sham Campzor, I thought you were better than this :(

She's basing her stance on UPlay survey's... smh :roll:

Splinter Cell was one of my favorite series to come from the original XBox..  The mighty have fallen :(

Splinter Cell was one of my favorite series to come from the original XBox..  The mighty have fallen :(

Shewgenja

Maybe when we press a button something awesome happens!Floppy_Jim

"Press A to Complete game"

They really need to stop trying to make Splinter Cell a lone wolf version of Ghost Recon.  The original games were utterly genius in the age of Metal Gear being the stealth game to beat..  Splinter Cell actually beat it in spades in my opinion.

*facepalm*

 

A Jade Raymond thread and no pics.... 

 

for sham Campzor, I thought you were better than this :(

Zaibach

:( I can't believe I used to have a crush on her..  GRR!

Shewgenja

Same!

A Jade Raymond thread and no pics....

for sham Campzor, I thought you were better than this :(

Zaibach

me like chana no pics yeah

I agree with everything she says.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

 

A Jade Raymond thread and no pics.... 

 

for sham Campzor, I thought you were better than this :(

campzor

Sei perdonato Mio figlio

Too complex is such BS. So many complex games did well last gen. MGS4, GTA IV, Dark Souls, Batman AC...

Chasing the "casual" crowd can very easily result in a franchise completely losing its identity and not being appealing to anyone. The original fanbase will hate it, and casuals won't pick it up due to a more interesting game being availible somewhere. That may happen to Blacklist, for now, to me it seems like a bargain bin purchase, I'll eventually try it out, but I keep my expectations at minimum...

Chasing the "casual" crowd can very easily result in a franchise completely losing its identity and not being appealing to anyone. The original fanbase will hate it, and casuals won't pick it up due to a more interesting game being availible somewhere. That may happen to Blacklist, for now, to me it seems like a bargain bin purchase, I'll eventually try it out, but I keep my expectations at minimum...

Rocker6

Word.

The thought of casuals ruining our games turns my stomach...

I agree with everything she says.

HAZE-Unit

She really isn't that good looking tbh....

Too complex is such BS. So many complex games did well last gen. MGS4, GTA IV, Dark Souls, Batman AC...

Ben-Buja

even SCDA's simplified shadow/light system is too complex? F that

Meh, MGS > SC anyway ;)

Nah I honestly have not played most of the SC games, but its obvious that regardless, what she says does not bode well for fans.

She really isn't that good looking tbh....FireEmblem_Man

You sir, are out yo mind.

I see better looking girls on the street everyday... smarter too.

Shewgenja

Why is gaming always seemingly needed to be reduced for the LCD? Do movies or books suffer from "dumbing down"? Pressing buttons on a controller ain't that hard. Complexity is where a game's strength often lies. If some Joe Blow can't learn to interact with this medium, than tough sh!t for them. Books aren't reduced to illustrations so the illiterate can be included. Learn to deal and adapt, or don't play. Why do these developers do this to games but other mediums are immune to it?MirkoS77

because they want: money, money, money!

They don't consider their work to be art so for the green paper they bend it in any way they want with no remorse. They don't care about distorting their vision and ruining their games just for it.

Complex? Is she kidding? Does the general gaming population have single digit IQ's?

I see better looking girls on the street everyday... smarter too.

KillzoneSnake

Why is gaming always seemingly needed to be reduced for the LCD? Do movies or books suffer from "dumbing down"? Pressing buttons on a controller ain't that hard. Complexity is where a game's strength often lies. If some Joe Blow can't learn to interact with this medium, than tough sh!t for them. Books aren't reduced to illustrations so the illiterate can be included. Learn to deal and adapt, or don't play. Why do these developers do this to games but other mediums are immune to it?MirkoS77

What's so complex on it?

You hide, you sneak, you climb, you use gadgets, ect.

Nothing any thinking person can't handle...

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]She really isn't that good looking tbh....Shewgenja

You sir, are out yo mind.

:roll:

I had better

What's so complex on it?

You hide, you sneak, you climb, you use gadgets, ect.

Nothing any thinking person can't handle...

nameless12345

BTW, I remember the fiasco Ubisoft did to somethingawful.com by sending a cease and desist letter to the webmaster because the comic was an offense to Jade Raymond. Although the comic was nothing more than a political statement showing that Ubisoft was wh0r1ng out Jade to sell Assasin's Creed.

shes pretty cute.

or maybe her association with gaming is the reason why i think shes cute