Japanese loathe western games and next gen games

[QUOTE="emorainbo"]

[QUOTE="Scoob64"]

Phd in physics from MIT... ;)

Seriously.

Scoob64

haha- hey they're both doctors, just different types ;) its easy to get em confused- heh

Half-Life movie confirmed! Starring Hugh Laurie as Gordon! :P

*Yeah old, old old stuff*

Japanese gamers are xenophobic, what else is new?

waltefmoney

And most western gamers are racist as shown in this thread, what else is new?

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Japanese gamers are xenophobic, what else is new?

loadedboon

And most western gamers are racist as shown in this thread, what else is new?

You mean immature.

It's a good thing the Japanese market is the 3rd (or is it 4th now?) largest game market, since I'm not too fond of "Japanese" style games.

This is the same reason the 360 is flopping in Japan. Not because Microsoft has tried but because Microsoft isnt run by Japanese employees.

Origami_Kill3r

EDIT: Said Indie_Hitman, with a whimsical expression on his face.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

They are featured prominently in Video Games-primarily as sex objects, jail-bait sims and mostly innocent looking school girls.LOL

shinrabanshou

You very rarely see a strong female character from Japan though.

I live in the best place in the world for gaming. North America. If I lived in japan Id be a close minded gamer and if I lived in europe companies would take forever releasing the game.

Origami_Kill3r

Then they also missed out RTS, TBS, side-scrolling adventure, HnS and other quirky games from the west. And here I believe most of Japanese households own HDTV. :( I believe that the reason why Japanese gamers don't like shooter is because they're not allowed to have firearm in their own household unlike American citizens. :PKleeyook

europeans are not easily allowed to have firearm either, yet many of us like shooters.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

They are featured prominently in Video Games-primarily as sex objects, jail-bait sims and mostly innocent looking school girls.LOL

JLF1

You very rarely see a strong female character from Japan though.

Samus Aran, Jill Valentine, Selvaria (Valkyria Chronicles), Lightning, Fang, Ashe (FFXII), Tifa Lockheart, Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) would probably be described as strong female characters.

Sure they're not plentiful specifically from Japan, but then how plentiful are they in general anyway?

[QUOTE="Origami_Kill3r"]

I live in the best place in the world for gaming. North America. If I lived in japan Id be a close minded gamer and if I lived in europe companies would take forever releasing the game.

Arach666

Yeah pretty much, there are a few Nintendo games and Sony games that come out later. But by far the majority comes at the same time.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

They are featured prominently in Video Games-primarily as sex objects, jail-bait sims and mostly innocent looking school girls.LOL

JLF1

You very rarely see a strong female character from Japan though.

Do you mean specifically in video games or in media/culture in general?

Samus Aran, Jill Valentine, Selvaria (Valkyria Chronicles), Lightning, Fang, Ashe (FFXII), Tifa Lockheart, Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) would probably be described as strong female characters.

Sure they're not plentiful specifically from Japan, but then how plentiful are they in general anyway?

shinrabanshou

Lol not even. Only 5 million? Really?

drspudz

Yeah I was quite shocked at that. I mean in the west there are games that have sold more than the PS3s Japan have sold.

Maybe they have less of a need for higher end graphics. The DS probably handles a lot of what they need. Maybe thats why Nintendo stopped pushing graphics technology with the Wii. I don't know.

But graphics aren't everything, we've benefited hugely from the physics capabilities of the 360 and PS3 and I appreciate that and wouldn't give that up. Although the Physics capabilities of the Wii aren't too bad if utilized well. I think I read that every other clock cycle on Boom Blox is calculating physics.

[QUOTE="Origami_Kill3r"]

I live in the best place in the world for gaming. North America. If I lived in japan Id be a close minded gamer and if I lived in europe companies would take forever releasing the game.

Planeforger

To be fair, North America doesn't get many Eastern European games (nor are they particularly popular over there), while Europe gets European, American and Japanese games.

Anyway, I'm not terribly surprised at those stats, but slightly disappointed with Japan as a nation. They're missing out on a lot of great games, and being exposed to more genres would certainly generate more creativity within their own gaming industry.

I wasn't aware that some EU games don't get released in the US (I live in the UK), can you give some examples, i'm genuinely curious. :?

Their loss. In the N64 and Gamecube eras I mostly prefered Japanese games, but nowadays I think 'Western' is the way to go, especially the Eastern European region. When I take a look at my shelf right now and see how many European and American games are on there, I cannot help but feel very sorry for Japan. The PC games I currently have on my shelf, for example: Mirror's Edge, GTA IV, Crysis and Warhead, Bioshock 1 & 2, Oblivion, STALKER SoC, CS, and CoP, Metro 2033, FEAR, FEAR 2, andAge of Empires 1, 2, and 3. Granted, most of these are shooters as that is what I use my PC for mostly, but I think it's safe to say that the saying 'Western game, #### game' is pathetic.

Unsurprising really. Look in other regions, Asian or European at popularity of certain games.skrat_01

Well, yeah, but I did find it surprising that the first Western game in the top 100 of best-selling games in Japan was found at #77. At least Japanese games (Super Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid: Other M are some recent examples) have the potential to do as well here as any Western game.

Thats a shame. A lot of my favorite games are JRPGs, but that doesn't change the fact that most Japanese games are downright terrible. Seriously.

Western RPGs and games are usually a lot, lot better.

My favorite game ever is a JRPG, but most the others are western.

Cultural difference and Western devs develop games based on local taste, not remotely based on Japanese taste so only small group of Japanese accepted it. Vice versa.

Same can be said for the Other Regions.

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="67gt500"]I think the Japanese disdain for Western games stems from their general disdain for firearms...hakanakumono

arent mgs,dmc,and re popular in japan?

Yes, but I've heard Japanese people say they didn't know RE was Japanese.

I don't see why it's bad that the Japanese are ethnocentric, what's wrong with loving your people and supporting your country?

Maybe they were confused by the series' western name.

Rockman999

That was probably it, since it's called biohazard in japan.

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

Maybe they were confused by the series' western name.

Espada12

That was probably it, since it's called biohazard in japan.

Same can be said for the Other Regions.

LegatoSkyheart

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Same can be said for the Other Regions.

Sotonian_Rebel

What do you think?

Western Gamers would most likely like Western Games more than Eastern Titles.

It's not always true, though.

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

Maybe they were confused by the series' western name.

Espada12

That was probably it, since it's called biohazard in japan.

To be honest I always thought Biohazard was a much better name then RE.

To be fair their culture is very very differnt from our own

Look what games here are turning too. FPS, lame story, short campaigns, pretty looks, shallow play, 3-D!

I see why they would loathe.

the gen has been pretty lame if you like japanese games . western gamers have no taste its all call of duty and space Marines .

dontshackzmii

yes western gamers have no taste lets all ignore the fact we have games besides Call of duty, what about Monkey Island, what about Mass Effect series what about dragon age, what about Dirt, what about Flight Sim, Splinter cell, Starcraft, what about Fallout, i don't see eastern Devs reinventing things over the years all i see are lame rehashes of the same game or a really polished action games like Ninja Gaiden or Street fighter that is it. I see no risks taken by them over there. With the exception of The really good Japanese Devs of course. The majority However stick to the same formula. Thats not to Say we dont have that here its jsut the Hypocritcal statements.

well different cultures and I agree with them the flood of FPS games this generation is making me sick.

[QUOTE="Sotonian_Rebel"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Same can be said for the Other Regions.

What do you think?

Western Gamers would most likely like Western Games more than Eastern Titles.

It's not always true, though.

well different cultures and I agree with them the flood of FPS games this generation is making me sick.

Kashiwaba

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]

Maybe they were confused by the series' western name.

Espada12

That was probably it, since it's called biohazard in japan.

for a japanese person its much harder to pronounce resident evil im sure thus the reason it was called biohazard its purely a marketing and cultural (to ann extent) decision.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Didn't realise they were so close minded.majadamus

i can't blame 'em.

if your country was bombarded with two nuclear bombs, then foreign scientists (who bombed you) come afterwards to study the radiation effects, wouldn't that tick you off?

i think the thing here is that the West always wants to dominate everything, and that anything coming from the West should be welcomed, and is and will always be right.

also, the fact that Western games this gen are all about shooting things. you are in one area, you shoot anything that moves, go to another area, shoot everything again, etc. Japanese people don't like that kind of game and violence. it's safe to say that they prefer melee and swords over guns. i remember this one interview wherein a Japanese guy asks, "why would you use a gun and then kill everything? it doesn't make sense."

also, with the type of games dominating this gen like Halo and CoD, seriously, IMO it's as lame as how Western gamers stereotype Japanese tastes. when you go to Akihabara no one knows what Halo is, seriously.

i, for one, hate the fact that most Asian countries tend to be Westernized, and that city folks (such as people from Tokyo, or Seoul) think that their cultures are lame and old-fashioned and that American products are cool and stuff, when clearly, it's their cultures that identify them.

Didn't realise they were so close minded.SaltyMeatballs

It's almost impossible for the Western world to relate. Unlike America they're an ultra homogenized society. Over here we call that close minded... over there it's just being Japanese. A "no foreigners allowed" sign would never fly hung up on a shop window over here, over there a "Japanese only"is just fine.

Completely different societies.

[QUOTE="GswSir"]

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]Japan has some of the most creative devs in the world. It isnt that they are not creative, just that they have different tastes in games. Lets not turn this thread into an Anti-Japan one, we wouldnt have games without them.MoonMarvel

Well, in truth the first game was created by some rather Western looking gentleman... "

The earliest example is from 1947-a "Cathode ray tube Amusement Device" was filed for a patent on January 25, 1947 by Thomas T. Goldsmith Jr. and Estle Ray Mann, and issued on December 14, 1948 as U.S. Patent 2455992."

Though, I do not mean to demean the work of the various innovative Japanese or Eastern developers. Of course, the gaming industry in general could stand to be a bit more innovative and open to new ideas.

That's OK. Pretty much every major Japanese franchise this gen. has been rather ****

I like JPN games, most of the game i played are made by JPN dev. , i believe around 60-70% of the game i played are JPN in origion and i live in ME, imagine if i was a JPN person with a JPN taste, i am not surprised.