Jeff Gertshman: "Skyrim is the holy grail of gaming and lead candidate for

So now we are praising broken, buggy, and glitchy games that are clearly rushed? I guess our standards as gamers have hit a new low:(

Adamantium4k2

Skyrim is the western dark souls in terms of critical reception. Both are overrated to hell and back and people choose to ignore glaring faults with both games because the core experience is good.

I once heard Jeff non-jokingly dismiss an entire game on the bombcast because he didn't like the font used on the title card.

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[QUOTE="sts106mat"] it got boring after you rescue glados, thats were i gave up at the propulsion gel. sts106mat

It got boring to you, which is fine, as not everything works for everybody. However, it is a MUCH better put together game than Skyrim is.

Neither were my favorite game, but I do think Portal 2 was the best game.

Skyrim..... Holy grail of gaming?

Skyrim..... Holy grail of gaming?

Peredith

I think he means what it strives for. Not the game itself. Long SP loaded with content and very fleshed out with the opportunity for a lot of playing time. Well worth your money. Not like most games that are all MP and have 4 hour campaigns

I strongly disagree.

That is all.

I agree. Skyrim on the PC is the best game this generation easily. All the rest is trash in comparison.

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Skyrim..... Holy grail of gaming?

seanmcloughlin

I think he means what it strives for. Not the game itself. Long SP loaded with content and very fleshed out with the opportunity for a lot of playing time. Well worth your money. Not like most games that are all MP and have 4 hour campaigns

Making a Fed Ex / Hiking simulator hybrid? :lol:

Eh, same thing happened with Oblivion. Now a lot of people hate the game.foxhound_fox

People hate games after a year. Everyone hated GTAIV a year later after hype died down. A lot of people hate Twilight Princess too after hype died. *shrug*.

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As for topic, I wouldn't know.

I'm too wary to play it based on all the technical issues I've heard on consoles and I don't have a good enough PC to run it.

I don't think technical issues should be overlooked that much when reviewing a game, only to a certain extent I suppose. A lot of what happens in Skyrim in terms of technical issues makes me annoyed and I don't even own the game. I'd be in a huge rage that an 85 hour file would be lost and unplayable.

There might be an amazing game under Skyrim but if it has a load of issues, it doesn't warrant "holy grail of gaming", no matter how good the game under all the mess might be.

Then again, I don't know the full extent of the issues.

I'm too wary to play it based on all the technical issues I've heard on consoles and I don't have a good enough PC to run it.Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I'm too wary to play it based on all the technical issues I've heard on consoles and I don't have a good enough PC to run it.foxhound_fox

I've never been into Bethesda games, but Skyrim did catch my interest. It's just too bad that there's a lot of technical issues that make me aprehensive to pick it up. I really don't want to deal with 0FPS or technical issues that stop me from progressing or remove my save files.

I might wait as well until a GOTY version. Plus, as it is I have a lot of games to play. The alternative I have is I might pick up Dark Souls instead, but we'll see.

jeff's reviews have been fail for like 10 years now i dont know what happened to him.

It's defiantley a great game and I'm having a blast with it, yes I'm on PS3 and over 50 hours in with no issues so far and I hope it stays that way, it seems to be different from person to person. But I don't know if it's going to be GOTY, I mean aside from the bugs it's been having I am also a little dissapointed in the length of the guilds and such. I beat the Dark Brotherhood in like 3 hours, sure they have those random/never ending quests but those get reptitive fast.

I think GOTY is between Unhcarted 3, Batman Arkham City, and Skyward Sword.

This game's about a 5 outta 10 the combat isnt satisfying has no real feedback to the melee combat.

Sure but it still has stiff competition in the forms of Dark Souls,Deus Ex,Saints Row 3 (personal GOTY) and technically Minecraft as it only went 1.0 the other week.

razgriz_101

Why dont swords chop peoples arms and legs and heads off?

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Eh, same thing happened with Oblivion. Now a lot of people hate the game.Haziqonfire

People hate games after a year. Everyone hated GTAIV a year later after hype died down. A lot of people hate Twilight Princess too after hype died. *shrug*.

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As for topic, I wouldn't know.

I'm too wary to play it based on all the technical issues I've heard on consoles and I don't have a good enough PC to run it.

I don't think technical issues should be overlooked that much when reviewing a game, only to a certain extent I suppose. A lot of what happens in Skyrim in terms of technical issues makes me annoyed and I don't even own the game. I'd be in a huge rage that an 85 hour file would be lost and unplayable.

There might be an amazing game under Skyrim but if it has a load of issues, it doesn't warrant "holy grail of gaming", no matter how good the game under all the mess might be.

Then again, I don't know the full extent of the issues.

I've played the 360 version of the game for 130+ hours and have had only the Letrush clone glitch and some minor miscellaneous quest bugs. (items not leaving inventory or enemies not respawning for bounty quests. )

Why dont swords chop peoples arms and legs and heads off?

heeeeeeeeeweeee

You can chop their heads off. :twisted:

somebody ban this troll's IP address already. abonsabo, how many alt accounts are you going to create?

somebody ban this troll's IP address already. abonsabo, how many alt accounts are you going to create?

rumbalumba

To find the Holy Grail.... one must to go through the bugs..... like Indiana Joneshippiesanta

:lol: Sig Worthy.

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somebody ban this troll's IP address already. abonsabo, how many alt accounts are you going to create?

woodenfork21

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Eh, same thing happened with Oblivion. Now a lot of people hate the game.Haziqonfire

People hate games after a year. Everyone hated GTAIV a year later after hype died down. A lot of people hate Twilight Princess too after hype died. *shrug*.

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As for topic, I wouldn't know.

I'm too wary to play it based on all the technical issues I've heard on consoles and I don't have a good enough PC to run it.

I don't think technical issues should be overlooked that much when reviewing a game, only to a certain extent I suppose. A lot of what happens in Skyrim in terms of technical issues makes me annoyed and I don't even own the game. I'd be in a huge rage that an 85 hour file would be lost and unplayable.

There might be an amazing game under Skyrim but if it has a load of issues, it doesn't warrant "holy grail of gaming", no matter how good the game under all the mess might be.

Then again, I don't know the full extent of the issues.

I do not agree. Uncharted 3 is the holy grail of gaming and lead candidate for GOTY, sorry.

I have already spoken to the gaming gods, they have confirmed it to be true. Uncharted 3... a gods gift to man.

The issues are overexxagerated by haters.grassotall

[QUOTE="grassotall"]The issues are overexxagerated by haters.foxhound_fox

All of its flaws are easily overllooked for everything it does right.grassotall

[QUOTE="grassotall"]All of its flaws are easily overllooked for everything it does right.foxhound_fox

IDK, Dark Souls and Arkham City might say otherwise

People who haven't played the game are still complaining about bugs?

But did anyone actually watch the damn video? Shane Satterfield Skyrim is the "holy grail". NOT Jeff Gertsmann.

Jeff did say about the technical shortcomings: "This game rises above a lot of that stuff in some fairly spectacular ways", and "This is the game to beat as far as I'm concerned." And most of us that have played the game probably agree with what he said.

I think most people still dont get it that not everyone will even get bugs. The ones you see on youtube are and see on the internet are probably not ever going to happen to you. They are isolated and specific issues, but not a bug that is necessarily going to happen in your game, even if you try to get it. It isn't a universal issue.

Of course, when we collectively find all the bugs accross the internet, its going to seem as if the game contains hundreds of bugs and is completely broken. This is really not the case.

So now we are praising broken, buggy, and glitchy games that are clearly rushed? I guess our standards as gamers have hit a new low:(

Adamantium4k2

Two crashes in 95 hours, no quests that would not finish and only one time it slowed down... been runnign very well for me so far.

[QUOTE="grassotall"]All of its flaws are easily overllooked for everything it does right.foxhound_fox

I am dreamign for DLC for Skyrim that is made by Obsidian.

Did you play OLD WORLD BLUES DLC for Fallout New Vegas? Was just amazing, best DLC ive ever played. If BEthesda could get Obsidian to do some DLC like that for SKyrim Id be in heaven.

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IDK, Dark Souls and Arkham City might say otherwise

kozzy1234

Skyrim destroys both those games imo, especially Dark Souls.

AC is pretty amazing though I gotta say.

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There might be an amazing game under Skyrim but if it has a load of issues, it doesn't warrant "holy grail of gaming", no matter how good the game under all the mess might be.

Then again, I don't know the full extent of the issues.

Haziqonfire

I would recomend playing the game first.. Ive played over 95 hours on the PC version and only had 2 crashes and one slowdown, No issues with quests not working or anythign else.

Also played about 25 hours of the xbox360 version and its surprisingly better then I expected.

The ps3 version is the only one Ive noticed big issues on.

Its hands down the most polished Bethesda game yet, at least for me.

Only two carshes and one slowdown in almost 100 hours? Much better then Fallout3/Oblivion.

Not to mention its ALOT more fun to me personally then F3 or Oblivion, Bethesda has realy surprised me with Skyrim, I hated F3 and Oblivion but I am loving Skyrim. Its like they took 90% of the issues I had with Oblivion and fixed them

I don't go on this forum for two weeks and suddenly everybody hates Skyrim. Did DICE make a new RPG or something?

It is a tad overpraised, but it's a fantastic game with a really immersive world and tons of content. It has my GOTY for sure.

I don't go on this forum for two weeks and suddenly everybody hates Skyrim. Did DICE make a new RPG or something?

Upparoom

I don't go on this forum for two weeks and suddenly everybody hates Skyrim. Did DICE make a new RPG or something?

Upparoom

Alot of the people have not even played the game yet which cracks me up. Atleast try the game first before saying all these bad thigns about it.

Saying its FORSURE NOT GOTY or GOTG, yet they have not even played any time on it.

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I don't go on this forum for two weeks and suddenly everybody hates Skyrim. Did DICE make a new RPG or something?

grassotall

Ah true. I forgot about the ratio of Cows to lems to sheep being really lopsided. This is why you join the master race and get the real man PC version :P.

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I don't go on this forum for two weeks and suddenly everybody hates Skyrim. Did DICE make a new RPG or something?

Upparoom

Ah true. I forgot about the ratio of Cows to lems to sheep being really lopsided. This is why you join the master race and get the real man PC version :P.

You just sound like a hater.grassotall

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somebody ban this troll's IP address already. abonsabo, how many alt accounts are you going to create?

Bread_or_Decide

lol....ridiculous :roll:

Im up there with the people that agree.

Issues and bugs aside, Skyrim impressed me greatly. And this is the first Elder Scrolls game I play.

But ofcourse the gameplay leaves much to be desired. If you can ignore that and the bugs, Skyrim definitely deserves to be GOTY candidate.