Jeff Gertsmann vs. Kane & Lynch, round 2

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#1 Samurai_Xavier
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http://www.giantbomb.com/kane-lynch-2-dog-days/61-26394/reviews/

Pretty good review. He gives 3/5 to the PS3 version and 2/5 to the 360 version. Nice to see him stay classy and non-bias. Fair review as usual.

Gamespot firing him for an honest review was one of the worst decisions this site has ever made.

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#2 Ratchet_Fan8
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3/5 for PS3?why does PS3 get good versions of "Average" un-interesting games ? >.> why not Fallout3 (was fixed) or B0rderlands (Mics still dont work)
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#3 millerlight89
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Gamespot firing him for an honest review was one of the worst decisions this site has ever made.

Samurai_Xavier

Agreed, him and what was that other guys name.... were my favorites. Glad to see he gave it what he felt, keep doing your thing Jeff ( like he is going to read this... well maybe).

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#4 kris9031998
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]Gamespot firing him for an honest review was one of the worst decisions this site has ever made.

Agreed, him and what was that other guys name.... were my favorites. Glad to see he gave it what he felt, keep doing your thing Jeff ( like he is going to read this... well maybe).

Alex Navarro?
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#5 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="kris9031998"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]Gamespot firing him for an honest review was one of the worst decisions this site has ever made.

Agreed, him and what was that other guys name.... were my favorites. Glad to see he gave it what he felt, keep doing your thing Jeff ( like he is going to read this... well maybe).

Alex Navarro?

No I believe his first name is Greg, his last name I have it in my head, but can't get it out lol.
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Oh god it's Hannah Montana all over again.

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#7 alfredooo
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]Gamespot firing him for an honest review was one of the worst decisions this site has ever made.

kris9031998

Agreed, him and what was that other guys name.... were my favorites. Glad to see he gave it what he felt, keep doing your thing Jeff ( like he is going to read this... well maybe).

Alex Navarro?

what happened to alex n.?

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#8 Samurai_Xavier
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]Gamespot firing him for an honest review was one of the worst decisions this site has ever made.

kris9031998

Agreed, him and what was that other guys name.... were my favorites. Glad to see he gave it what he felt, keep doing your thing Jeff ( like he is going to read this... well maybe).

Alex Navarro?

http://www.giantbomb.com/madden-nfl-11/61-29744/reviews/

Nice to see him reviewing for Giant Bomb.

He also runs the Giant Bomb sister site, Screened.com, which is for movies what Giant Bomb is for games.

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#9 Samurai_Xavier
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[QUOTE="kris9031998"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Agreed, him and what was that other guys name.... were my favorites. Glad to see he gave it what he felt, keep doing your thing Jeff ( like he is going to read this... well maybe).

millerlight89

Alex Navarro?

No I believe his first name is Greg, his last name I have it in my head, but can't get it out lol.

Greg Kasavin is working on Spec Ops: The Line, which looks like a pretty awesome game BTW.

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[QUOTE="kris9031998"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Agreed, him and what was that other guys name.... were my favorites. Glad to see he gave it what he felt, keep doing your thing Jeff ( like he is going to read this... well maybe).

Samurai_Xavier

Alex Navarro?

Nice to see him reviewing for GiantBomb.

Should be noted that he's not at Giant Bomb. He's at Screened.com with Matt Rorie. He sometimes pops in to do guest reviews though.

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Hmm not bad. Its basicly a "good" ranking.

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#12 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="kris9031998"] Alex Navarro?Samurai_Xavier

No I believe his first name is Greg, his last name I have it in my head, but can't get it out lol.

Greg Kasavin is working on Spec Ops: The Line, which looks like a pretty awesome game BTW.

Yea that's right :P, I remember he became a developer for some game, I liked his style of reviewing and just overall speaking really.
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[QUOTE="kris9031998"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Agreed, him and what was that other guys name.... were my favorites. Glad to see he gave it what he felt, keep doing your thing Jeff ( like he is going to read this... well maybe).

millerlight89

Alex Navarro?

No I believe his first name is Greg, his last name I have it in my head, but can't get it out lol.

No, Greg had left before Jeff, he got a job at some game company. Other around Jeff's time were Alex Navarro, Ryan Davis, Jason Ocampo.

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#14 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="kris9031998"] Alex Navarro?dramaybaz

No I believe his first name is Greg, his last name I have it in my head, but can't get it out lol.

No, Greg had left before Jeff, he got a job at some game company. Other around Jeff's time were Alex Navarro, Ryan Davis, Jason Ocampo.

I didn't say anything about them working together :P, I just mentioned him because he was the only other one I really enjoyed watching.
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#15 kris9031998
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

No I believe his first name is Greg, his last name I have it in my head, but can't get it out lol.millerlight89

Greg Kasavin is working on Spec Ops: The Line, which looks like a pretty awesome game BTW.

Yea that's right :P, I remember he became a developer for some game, I liked his style of reviewing and just overall speaking really.

Man i miss Alex, he was my fav reviewer....
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] No I believe his first name is Greg, his last name I have it in my head, but can't get it out lol.millerlight89

Greg Kasavin is working on Spec Ops: The Line, which looks like a pretty awesome game BTW.

Yea that's right :P, I remember he became a developer for some game, I liked his style of reviewing and just overall speaking really.

Lol, I think some people called him "the voice of Gamespot" back then. He had a pretty cool voice.

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Normally, I'd say Jeff isn't really qualified to review it, after what the first game did to his career, but then again, in that very same instance, he also proved that nothing would make him lose his reviewer integrity. It's a fair review, as usual, coming from Giant Bomb.
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Looks like a good rent. I watched YT video earlier and the shooting/gunplay and sound effects are freaking awesome. And the mp has some good ideas and def looks fun. I wish games like this would catch on with the major mp crowd.

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#19 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Greg Kasavin is working on Spec Ops: The Line, which looks like a pretty awesome game BTW.

kris9031998

Yea that's right :P, I remember he became a developer for some game, I liked his style of reviewing and just overall speaking really.

Man i miss Alex, he was my fav reviewer....

Alex is one of the best reviewers I know of at just plain writing, probably even better than the GB guys. I actually read his Madden 11 review even though I have no interest in Madden simply because he's a great writer.

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#20 Cherokee_Jack
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Normally, I'd say Jeff isn't really qualified to review it, after what the first game did to his career, but then again, in that very same instance, he also proved that nothing would make him lose his reviewer integrity. It's a fair review, as usual, coming from Giant Bomb. enterawesome
Well, since Jeff played the first one he's the most qualified to judge how it improves on its predecessor. Also I know he'd never let someone else take it on because it would look like a big cop-out, plus it would be a tacit acknowledgement that he was biased against K&L (which he's not, he was pretty hyped for both games before he played them).
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He should have said it was a pile of **** :P

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#22 kozzy1234
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That was actually a VERY good review.

That issue the 360 version has with it pausign for 3 seconds when you shoot though looks TERRIBLE.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="kris9031998"] Alex Navarro?Samurai_Xavier

No I believe his first name is Greg, his last name I have it in my head, but can't get it out lol.

Greg Kasavin is working on Spec Ops: The Line, which looks like a pretty awesome game BTW.

The beta was okay, needs some work, but the game has potential.
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#25 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Normally, I'd say Jeff isn't really qualified to review it, after what the first game did to his career, but then again, in that very same instance, he also proved that nothing would make him lose his reviewer integrity. It's a fair review, as usual, coming from Giant Bomb. Cherokee_Jack
Well, since Jeff played the first one he's the most qualified to judge how it improves on its predecessor. Also I know he'd never let someone else take it on because it would look like a big cop-out, plus it would be a tacit acknowledgement that he was biased against K&L (which he's not, he was pretty hyped for both games before he played them).

Well, I said, "in that very same instance (referring to his firing over Kane and Lynch 1), he also proved that nothing would make him lose his reviewer integrity." (basically meaning that nothing will stop him from giving a fair and honest review)
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I don't really like his reviews but he most certainly my respect.
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

http://www.giantbomb.com/kane-lynch-2-dog-days/61-26394/reviews/

Pretty good review. He gives 3/5 to the PS3 version and 2/5 to the 360 version. Nice to see him stay classy and non-bias. Fair review as usual.

Gamespot firing him for an honest review was one of the worst decisions this site has ever made.

Jeff leaving GS is the best thing that ever happend to him. He got what he needed at GS and then left.
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why not Fallout3 (was fixed) Ratchet_Fan8
Fallout 3 was not fixed. lol It still has a lot of issues on the PS3 version, at least it got trophy support though...
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Well, i never really liked his reviews, i only go to GB to read Brad and Ryan reviews, but this one, wasn't that bad.

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#30 EVOLV3
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The beginning of the video review subtly brings up his review for the first one haha

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I cannot believe people still spread the unverified rumor that Jeff was fired for upsetting the little fanbase of Kane and Lynch there was. I mean Shenmue got a 6ish score and that guy wasn't fired so please stop spreading this when Gamespot never confirmed it. Also this game looks okay.
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I wonder if he'll fire himself for this review.
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#33 Easyle
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]I cannot believe people still spread the unverified rumor that Jeff was fired for upsetting the little fanbase of Kane and Lynch there was. I mean Shenmue got a 6ish score and that guy wasn't fired so please stop spreading this when Gamespot never confirmed it. Also this game looks okay.

When the game was HEAVILY advertised on the website, then it get's a bad review.. people are going to be pissed..
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I wonder if he'll fire himself for this review. jg4xchamp
:lol:
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#35 Banjo_Kongfooie
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]I cannot believe people still spread the unverified rumor that Jeff was fired for upsetting the little fanbase of Kane and Lynch there was. I mean Shenmue got a 6ish score and that guy wasn't fired so please stop spreading this when Gamespot never confirmed it. Also this game looks okay.Easyle
When the game was HEAVILY advertised on the website, then it get's a bad review.. people are going to be pissed..

And... Its not the first, do not believe every rumor

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[QUOTE="kris9031998"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Agreed, him and what was that other guys name.... were my favorites. Glad to see he gave it what he felt, keep doing your thing Jeff ( like he is going to read this... well maybe).

alfredooo

Alex Navarro?

what happened to alex n.?

Works at screened.com now.
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#37 Lionheart08
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I cannot believe people still spread the unverified rumor that Jeff was fired for upsetting the little fanbase of Kane and Lynch there was. I mean Shenmue got a 6ish score and that guy wasn't fired so please stop spreading this when Gamespot never confirmed it. Also this game looks okay.Banjo_Kongfooie

Uhhh yeah, do you really expect gamespot to outright say "We fired this dude because he dun goof'd?"

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#38 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="kris9031998"] Alex Navarro?Samurai_Xavier

No I believe his first name is Greg, his last name I have it in my head, but can't get it out lol.

Greg Kasavin is working on Spec Ops: The Line, which looks like a pretty awesome game BTW.

It also plays pretty awesome. The closed beta is badass.

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#39 Samurai_Xavier
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I cannot believe people still spread the unverified rumor that Jeff was fired for upsetting the little fanbase of Kane and Lynch there was. I mean Shenmue got a 6ish score and that guy wasn't fired so please stop spreading this when Gamespot never confirmed it. Also this game looks okay.Banjo_Kongfooie

I believe its been unofficially confirmed behind closed doors. And while Jeff Gertsmann himself never made any official statements, if you've followed him since the incident, he's hinted at it and pretty much said so on multiple occasions, just not officially.

Also, why do you think the most of his friends in the Gamespot staff decided to quit too? If these rumors were false, Jeff would have already asked for the rumors to stop.

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#40 iBear-
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I cannot believe people still spread the unverified rumor that Jeff was fired for upsetting the little fanbase of Kane and Lynch there was. I mean Shenmue got a 6ish score and that guy wasn't fired so please stop spreading this when Gamespot never confirmed it. Also this game looks okay.Banjo_Kongfooie

You have no idea what ur talking about

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#42 UnknownSniper65
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Jeff Gertsmann does awesome reviews it is really too bad he isn't with gamespot anymore.

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He gave Twilight Princess AA. WTF. That is all.