Journey is Gamespot's 2012 GOTY (all GOTY discussion HERE)

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#1351 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]Shrug, I play games for fun, not to gawk at how impactful or artsy they wanna pretend to be 99% of the time.Badosh

You can have fun, and gawk.

The 2 have never found a way to be mutually compatible for me.

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#1352 Badosh
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The 2 have never found a way to be mutually compatible for me.ActicEdge
Oh, sorry bro :(
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#1353 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]The 2 have never found a way to be mutually compatible for me.Badosh
Oh, sorry bro :(

Doesn't really bother me. As long as I get enjoyment out of it that's all that I really care about.

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#1354 15strong
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="Utensilman"] 3 years? i guess they're just pathetic then. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy journey but if you think video games are "art" get out of the house moreActicEdge

Wait, wait.

You don't think video games are art?

hahahahahahaha

I don't, I don't really put art and games together at all. Shrug, I play games for fun, not to gawk at how impactful or artsy they wanna pretend to be 99% of the time.

It's not about gawking at the art. Everything about videogaems are art. Mario is art. Journey is art.

All of the modeling, concept art, animation, music, level design. It is all art. How can you not think video games are art. At this point, it is not opinion. It is fact. Writing is art, painting is art, dance is art, music is art. All of these are part of every game that is made. Video games are art.

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#1355 rjdofu
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wait so ps3 gets fez but 360 doesnt get journey :lol: stupid lemmingsPressXtoJump
They will surely get the next game from thatgamecompany, and it'd probably be better than Journey, at least I hope it will.
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#1356 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

Wait, wait.

You don't think video games are art?

hahahahahahaha

15strong

I don't, I don't really put art and games together at all. Shrug, I play games for fun, not to gawk at how impactful or artsy they wanna pretend to be 99% of the time.

It's not about gawking at the art. Everything about videogaems are art. Mario is art. Journey is art.

All of the modeling, concept art, animation, music, level design. It is all art. How can you not think video games are art. At this point, it is not opinion. It is fact. Writing is art, painting is art, dance is art, music is art. All of these are part of every game that is made. Video games are art.

I don't really view it as art, its not really something where I feel there is much objectivity to calling it art. I agree it contains art since obviously music and visuals are art but meh, I don't really see a video game (the game portion itself opposed to what its made of) as something that I can actively view as art. If you wanna think what you are saying is fact you're free to but I disagree regardless of your authoratative input.

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#1357 15strong
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't, I don't really put art and games together at all. Shrug, I play games for fun, not to gawk at how impactful or artsy they wanna pretend to be 99% of the time.

ActicEdge

It's not about gawking at the art. Everything about videogaems are art. Mario is art. Journey is art.

All of the modeling, concept art, animation, music, level design. It is all art. How can you not think video games are art. At this point, it is not opinion. It is fact. Writing is art, painting is art, dance is art, music is art. All of these are part of every game that is made. Video games are art.

I don't really view it as art, its not really something where I feel there is much objectivity to calling it art. I agree it contains art since obviously music and visuals are art but meh, I don't really see a video game (the game portion itself opposed to what its made of) as something that I can actively view as art. If you wanna think what you are saying is fact you're free to but I disagree regardless of your authoratative input.

If all of it's components are art, then isn't the enire thing art?

Why wouldn't a game be art? I don't really see the logic.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

It's not about gawking at the art. Everything about videogaems are art. Mario is art. Journey is art.

All of the modeling, concept art, animation, music, level design. It is all art. How can you not think video games are art. At this point, it is not opinion. It is fact. Writing is art, painting is art, dance is art, music is art. All of these are part of every game that is made. Video games are art.

15strong

I don't really view it as art, its not really something where I feel there is much objectivity to calling it art. I agree it contains art since obviously music and visuals are art but meh, I don't really see a video game (the game portion itself opposed to what its made of) as something that I can actively view as art. If you wanna think what you are saying is fact you're free to but I disagree regardless of your authoratative input.

If all of it's components are art, then isn't the enire thing art?

Why wouldn't a game be art? I don't really see the logic.

Some folks subscribe to a more subjective view of what "art"actually is. For instance, rap is considered by its listeners to be art. Logic tells me that it should rightfully be considered art. But I no way in hell could I ever bring myself to throw it in with the likes of Mozart, Pavarotti, Pink Floyd, etc..stuff that rings as art to me.
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#1359 15strong
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't really view it as art, its not really something where I feel there is much objectivity to calling it art. I agree it contains art since obviously music and visuals are art but meh, I don't really see a video game (the game portion itself opposed to what its made of) as something that I can actively view as art. If you wanna think what you are saying is fact you're free to but I disagree regardless of your authoratative input.

Lethargika

If all of it's components are art, then isn't the enire thing art?

Why wouldn't a game be art? I don't really see the logic.

Some folks subscribe to a more subjective view of what "art"actually is. For instance, rap is considered by its listeners to be art. Logic tells me that it should rightfully be considered art. But I no way in hell could I ever bring myself to throw it in with the likes of Mozart, Pavarotti, Pink Floyd, etc..stuff that rings as art to me.

That's perfectly logical to say. You are talking about the quality of the art. One could argue that games have not yet reached the stage of "high art". But to question wheter or not a game is art, I just don't see the argument.

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#1360 sukrat
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Angry Birds a lock for 2013 ?
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#1361 haziqonfire
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This year sucked for big budget games. Downloadable games was what I played most. Lots of high quality stuff on the eShop and I still need The Walking Dead collection. Looking forward to that. In terms of my GOTY... Uh. I don't know nothing really stood out this year beyond Xenoblade which I haven't finished yet unfortunately. Dishonored was good but not GOTY good in my opinion.

Edit: Kid Icarus: Uprising was a 2012 title? Eff everything else! That's my GOTY. That game was so unexpectedly awesome and weird as f***.

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#1362 RyanShazam
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So im installing Guild Wars 2 now. Did anyone think this game is GOTY material?

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#1363 dream431ca
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Nice! PS3 is on a roll with 3 GOTYs this gen!

If I had to choose my personal GOTY, it's got to be XCOM: Enemy Unknown, hands down. I played the original XCOM and this game brings back memories, especially the pain and hardship. That game was no joke.

Runner up to my GOTY would have to be FTL: Faster than light. Indie games this year are on a roll! FTL is a space strategy game where you have to fend of attacks from other ships and risk everything to survive. It's like Oregon Trail in space!

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#1364 ultraking
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too late?

lol

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Congrats to Journey!!!! I cant wait for Journey 2.
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#1366 Heil68
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too late?

lol

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#1367 SecretPolice  Online
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Hope you all know that by praising this < 2 hour long selection for GOTY you're only telling'em that's all the time & effort it takes so get ready for more of this.

Heck, Dust would have been a better pick but even then, that would have sent the wrong signal to devs.

That said, both are fine, fine games but GOTY they are not... Now Halo 4, ME3, Guild Wars etc would have made much more sense. :P

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Hope you all know that by praising this < 2 hour long selection for GOTY you're only telling'em that's all the time & effort it takes so get ready for more of this.SecretPolice

Nonsense.

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Hope you all know that by praising this < 2 hour long selection for GOTY you're only telling'em that's all the time & effort it takes so get ready for more of this.Giancar

Nonsense.

Some sense. :P

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#1370 Badosh
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So im installing Guild Wars 2 now. Did anyone think this game is GOTY material?

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GW2 is amazing, totally GOTY worthy.
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Hope you all know that by praising this < 2 hour long selection for GOTY you're only telling'em that's all the time & effort it takes so get ready for more of this.

Heck, Dust would have been a better pick but even then, that would have sent the wrong signal to devs.

That said, both are fine, fine games but GOTY they are not... Now Halo 4, ME3, Guild Wars etc would have made much more sense. :P

SecretPolice

Spartan Ops is terrible in halo 4 so there is no chance that would have won GOTY.ME3 had the terrible ending and the weird design choices and I don't know why GW2 did not win.

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Hope you all know that by praising this < 2 hour long selection for GOTY you're only telling'em that's all the time & effort it takes so get ready for more of this.

Heck, Dust would have been a better pick but even then, that would have sent the wrong signal to devs.

That said, both are fine, fine games but GOTY they are not... Now Halo 4, ME3, Guild Wars etc would have made much more sense. :P

SecretPolice
I think a game like Journey winning GOTY sends a much better message than Mass Effect 3 or Halo 4 winning personally.
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Hope you all know that by praising this < 2 hour long selection for GOTY you're only telling'em that's all the time & effort it takes so get ready for more of this.

Heck, Dust would have been a better pick but even then, that would have sent the wrong signal to devs.

That said, both are fine, fine games but GOTY they are not... Now Halo 4, ME3, Guild Wars etc would have made much more sense. :P

super600

Spartan Ops is terrible in halo 4 so there is no chance that would have won GOTY.ME3 had the terrible ending and the weird design choices and I don't know why GW2 did not win.

That reasoning is some of my problem with the pick since it sends the message, don't include extra content in the game since if it's not perfect, the game will take a hit in scoring. :? Say like if Forge World had a few probs, well then, if you're 343 ya might say, heck, lets leave that out because the more content we offer, the better the chance reviewers will find fault with it. :o

Just seems wrong headed to me. :P

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Hope you all know that by praising this < 2 hour long selection for GOTY you're only telling'em that's all the time & effort it takes so get ready for more of this.

Heck, Dust would have been a better pick but even then, that would have sent the wrong signal to devs.

That said, both are fine, fine games but GOTY they are not... Now Halo 4, ME3, Guild Wars etc would have made much more sense. :P

SecretPolice

Spartan Ops is terrible in halo 4 so there is no chance that would have won GOTY.ME3 had the terrible ending and the weird design choices and I don't know why GW2 did not win.

That reasoning is some of my problem with the pick since it sends the message, don't include extra content in the game since if it's not perfect, the game will take a hit in scoring. :? Say like if Forge World had a few probs, well then, if you're 343 ya might say, heck, lets leave that out because the more content we offer, the better the chance reviewers will find fault with it. :o

Just seems wrong headed to me. :P

True.I just did not like how spartan ops was structured, but the rest of the game is amazing.

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Hope you all know that by praising this < 2 hour long selection for GOTY you're only telling'em that's all the time & effort it takes so get ready for more of this.

Heck, Dust would have been a better pick but even then, that would have sent the wrong signal to devs.

That said, both are fine, fine games but GOTY they are not... Now Halo 4, ME3, Guild Wars etc would have made much more sense. :P

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I think a game like Journey winning GOTY sends a much better message than Mass Effect 3 or Halo 4 winning personally.

Especially since games like ME3 and Halo will be produced multiple times due the big bucks it brings to the industry.
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#1376 deactivated-5c03000d4b1b4
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Is this from the developer of flower? I dislike flower

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Hope you all know that by praising this < 2 hour long selection for GOTY you're only telling'em that's all the time & effort it takes so get ready for more of this.

Heck, Dust would have been a better pick but even then, that would have sent the wrong signal to devs.

That said, both are fine, fine games but GOTY they are not... Now Halo 4, ME3, Guild Wars etc would have made much more sense. :P

SecretPolice

Spartan Ops is terrible in halo 4 so there is no chance that would have won GOTY.ME3 had the terrible ending and the weird design choices and I don't know why GW2 did not win.

That reasoning is some of my problem with the pick since it sends the message, don't include extra content in the game since if it's not perfect, the game will take a hit in scoring. :? Say like if Forge World had a few probs, well then, if you're 343 ya might say, heck, lets leave that out because the more content we offer, the better the chance reviewers will find fault with it. :o

Just seems wrong headed to me. :P

Since when has a gamespot GOTY sent a message to every dev to make their game modeled after the winner?
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

So im installing Guild Wars 2 now. Did anyone think this game is GOTY material?

Badosh
GW2 is amazing, totally GOTY worthy.

thats great to hear! I made a Gaurdian. Is there a class you would recommend. I heard there are no role specific classes. Is that true?
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thats great to hear! I made a Gaurdian. Is there a class you would recommend. I heard there are no role specific classes. Is that true?RyanShazam
I have a thief and a warrior, both are great fun. I know many that love playing the Mesmer. And, yes that's true. Some are better at roles than others, but nothing specific, you can be whatever you want.
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Is this from the developer of flower? I dislike flower

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Yes it is.
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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]thats great to hear! I made a Gaurdian. Is there a class you would recommend. I heard there are no role specific classes. Is that true?Badosh
I have a thief and a warrior, both are great fun. I know many that love playing the Mesmer. And, yes that's true. Some are better at roles than others, but nothing specific, you can be whatever you want.

Thanks for the info. I'm gonna stick with my Gaurdian for a little but (reminds me of a pally in WoW). Hopefully it's a good tank.
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#1383 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Hope you all know that by praising this < 2 hour long selection for GOTY you're only telling'em that's all the time & effort it takes so get ready for more of this.

Heck, Dust would have been a better pick but even then, that would have sent the wrong signal to devs.

That said, both are fine, fine games but GOTY they are not... Now Halo 4, ME3, Guild Wars etc would have made much more sense. :P

jg4xchamp
I think a game like Journey winning GOTY sends a much better message than Mass Effect 3 or Halo 4 winning personally.

^Truth. Especially since Journey executes much better than both of them.
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#1384 ActicEdge
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Hope you all know that by praising this < 2 hour long selection for GOTY you're only telling'em that's all the time & effort it takes so get ready for more of this.

Heck, Dust would have been a better pick but even then, that would have sent the wrong signal to devs.

That said, both are fine, fine games but GOTY they are not... Now Halo 4, ME3, Guild Wars etc would have made much more sense. :P

SecretPolice

I don't honestly get why GOTY has to be anything other than the best game. If the best game is 2 hours the best game is 2 hours. Sending a message shouldn't be what GOTY is about.

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#1385 crusadernm
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I just played journey a second time last night to maybe see if I was missing something that I didn't see or feel. I just don't understand how it won game of the year. I grant that its very artistic and and music was great but Game of the Year? Really?

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#1386 samusownsyou123
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I agree. It's nice to see a game from a smaller developer win for once, and not a big block buster game win every year. Go Journey!

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#1387 DarkLink77
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I agree. It's nice to see a game from a smaller developer win for once, and not a big block buster game win every year. Go Journey!

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I know, right? Bastion should have totally kicked Skyrim's ass in GOTY awards last year!
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I know, right? Bastion should have totally kicked Skyrim's ass in GOTY awards last year!

Now, that's something I totally agree with.
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#1389 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I know, right? Bastion should have totally kicked Skyrim's ass in GOTY awards last year!

Now, that's something I totally agree with.

It's the obvious choice. The consistent lameness of TES vs. the awesomeness of Bastion? Come on, now.
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Game was fun, can't argue with that.