Journey OUTSHINES 2012 Blockbusters (VGA)- What Does That Say About This Year?

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

It says that pseudo intellectuals love to play pseudo games and overrate the hell out of them. Journey is nothing special shouldn't even be a nominee for any category aside from music.

BPoole96

Sad to see some people can't handle the truth and refuse to accept Journey's mediocrity.

Dayum, Ironic you call other "pseudo-intellectuals" for liking this game while being extremely obnoxious at the same time.

[QUOTE="TilxWLOC"]

I never said that is what is wrong with Journey, he said he didn't see why people called it pretentious, I told him.

Journey is a very shallow game, I wouldn't classify it as art either, as my definition of art is something that can be interpreted in many ways. Does that help? While the mechanics in Limbo are lackluster the puzzles are cool and well-thought-out. I don't know much about Braid but I know it is a platformer/puzzler which is alright, I guess , none of what I've seen of it matches the praise, but it looks fun enough and brings in some interesting mechanics to aid it.

ms555

All three of those games tho including Journey di have multiple interpretations. All three of them were huge analogies, and only used famliar game mechanics in the service of expressing said analogy. Braid is an analogy for the creation of the atomic bomb, limbo is an analogy for the never ending, hellish, cyclic nature of life. And journey is entirely an analogy for the stages of life moving from playful youth through troublng mid life, to death, and then finally to the afterlife. All three were analogies first, games second.

Where's the interpretation in what you just said? You just told me what all three games meant, which isn't really what I was talking about, but it is close enough.

Journey is a very shallow game, I wouldn't classify it as art either, as my definition of art is something that can be interpreted in many ways.

TilxWLOC

I literally just finished it for the sixth (?) time an hour or so ago. There is certainly not one definitive interpretation to the entire package; it's purposely vague in order to be interpreted differently by each player.

Does that help? While the mechanics in Limbo are lackluster the puzzles are cool and well-thought-out.

TilxWLOC

Well thought-out? We'll have to disagree there. It felt like very little thought was put into any of the puzzles. It took me no more than two minutes to figure out the more difficult puzzles.

If I were to rank all three games, I'd rank Journey on top, Braid in second, and Limbo in last. The first two are among my favorite of this gen, the last I found to be lackluster.

[QUOTE="TilxWLOC"]

Journey is a very shallow game, I wouldn't classify it as art either, as my definition of art is something that can be interpreted in many ways.

sammyjenkis898

I literally just finished it for the sixth (?) time an hour or so ago. There is certainly not one definitive interpretation to the entire package; it's purposely vague in order to be interpreted differently by each player.

Does that help? While the mechanics in Limbo are lackluster the puzzles are cool and well-thought-out.

TilxWLOC

Well thought-out? We'll have to disagree there. It felt like very little thought was put into any of the puzzles. It took me no more than two minutes to figure out the more difficult puzzles.

If I were to rank all three games, I'd rank Journey on top, Braid in second, and Limbo in last. The first two are among my favorite of this gen, the last I found to be lackluster.

Agreed. Although I also loved LIMBO

[QUOTE="ms555"]

[QUOTE="TilxWLOC"]

I never said that is what is wrong with Journey, he said he didn't see why people called it pretentious, I told him.

Journey is a very shallow game, I wouldn't classify it as art either, as my definition of art is something that can be interpreted in many ways. Does that help? While the mechanics in Limbo are lackluster the puzzles are cool and well-thought-out. I don't know much about Braid but I know it is a platformer/puzzler which is alright, I guess , none of what I've seen of it matches the praise, but it looks fun enough and brings in some interesting mechanics to aid it.

TilxWLOC

All three of those games tho including Journey di have multiple interpretations. All three of them were huge analogies, and only used famliar game mechanics in the service of expressing said analogy. Braid is an analogy for the creation of the atomic bomb, limbo is an analogy for the never ending, hellish, cyclic nature of life. And journey is entirely an analogy for the stages of life moving from playful youth through troublng mid life, to death, and then finally to the afterlife. All three were analogies first, games second.

Where's the interpretation in what you just said? You just told me what all three games meant, which isn't really what I was talking about, but it is close enough.

Journey GOTY

Mass Effect 3 runner up GOTY

It says that pseudo intellectuals love to play pseudo games and overrate the hell out of them. Journey is nothing special shouldn't even be a nominee for any category aside from music.

BPoole96

Vote for borderlands 2 & Gearbox! They've have promised a golden key bonanza if they win best studio! :P I WANT SOME MORE GOLDEN KEYS!blue_hazy_basic

Thats not fair to the other devs

D1ck move from them imo

2012 = Wait till next year.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Vote for borderlands 2 & Gearbox! They've have promised a golden key bonanza if they win best studio! :P I WANT SOME MORE GOLDEN KEYS!Vatusus

Thats not fair to the other devs

D1ck move from them imo

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Vote for borderlands 2 & Gearbox! They've have promised a golden key bonanza if they win best studio! :P I WANT SOME MORE GOLDEN KEYS!mems_1224

Thats not fair to the other devs

D1ck move from them imo

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Vote for borderlands 2 & Gearbox! They've have promised a golden key bonanza if they win best studio! :P I WANT SOME MORE GOLDEN KEYS!mems_1224

Thats not fair to the other devs

D1ck move from them imo

Oh please. Now many will vote for them even if they do not believe they're the best devs this year only to get extra stuff

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Vote for borderlands 2 & Gearbox! They've have promised a golden key bonanza if they win best studio! :P I WANT SOME MORE GOLDEN KEYS!mems_1224

Thats not fair to the other devs

D1ck move from them imo

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

Thats not fair to the other devs

D1ck move from them imo

hoosier7

and unless you follow @duvalmagic on twitter you wouldn't know, thats not alot of people

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

It was a pretty decent game from what I've played. Don't know why people call it pretentious simply because it's attempting something different. Heavy Rain was a crappy pretentious game from Sony. Journey is exactly what it is, a great game.

Still, Halo 4 is my GOTY

TilxWLOC

Because it is pretentious, "characterizedbyassumptionofdignityorimportance." -Dictionary.com, This is what the developers aimed for an we all know it. Remember when they said that the Xbox fanbase was not mature enough to understand it?

It's just a term folks who don't like anything that tries to be themeatically different and doesn't feel like it was aimed at basement dwelling teenagers. Journey while I played it didn't feel pretentious at all.

That statement about the Xbox fanbase is pretty dumb. It's like saying the Sony fanbase like games that play themselves

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]all the praise i hear about journey only makes me think that the game is super overrated.ms555

:lol: Journey is a load of crap. A "game" where you can't die or lose. It was made for little emo weaboo huggy touchy freaks that want to cry. You want to feel real pain? Play Halo on legendary. You will cry from getting your ass kicked.

You want to feel real pain? Play Halo JohnnyCageMK

You will cryJohnnyCageMK

I agree. Poor lems.

:lol: Journey is a load of crap. A "game" where you can't die or lose. It was made for little emo weaboo huggy touchy freaks that want to cry. You want to feel real pain? Play Halo on legendary. You will cry from getting your ass kicked.

JohnnyCageMK

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]You want to feel real pain? Play Halo kuraimen

You will cryJohnnyCageMK

I agree. Poor lems.

[QUOTE="TilxWLOC"]

Journey is a very shallow game, I wouldn't classify it as art either, as my definition of art is something that can be interpreted in many ways.

sammyjenkis898

I literally just finished it for the sixth (?) time an hour or so ago. There is certainly not one definitive interpretation to the entire package; it's purposely vague in order to be interpreted differently by each player.

Does that help? While the mechanics in Limbo are lackluster the puzzles are cool and well-thought-out.

TilxWLOC

Well thought-out? We'll have to disagree there. It felt like very little thought was put into any of the puzzles. It took me no more than two minutes to figure out the more difficult puzzles.

If I were to rank all three games, I'd rank Journey on top, Braid in second, and Limbo in last. The first two are among my favorite of this gen, the last I found to be lackluster.

For the interpretation point, I guess I can't really speak too much on it haven't seen many people's opinions on the story of the game, all I've seen of that is, "What do the visions mean?", replied to with, "The mountain of life was sustained with the power of scarves, but people got greedy and fought over it leading to their demise.", Paraphrasing of course, but as I watched those visions, he was right, I didn't see any other way someone could have interpreted it except for the mountain part.

As for well-thought out puzzles not being in Limbo, I wholly disagree, well-though out does not equate to challenging, I can understand if that is your issue with the game, I agree, and there is a great lack of content in the game as well, but the puzzles are well put together.

Lastly, not directed at Jenkis: What a story is an analogy for or stands for is not what I am talking about, I am talking about the story in the game itself. I could say that the 99 Cent Store stands for the resistance against companies like Wal-Mart, but just because I interpret what they stand for, they are not art.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

You want to feel real pain? Play Halo...

You will cry

TheDidact

I agree. Poor lems.

Why do you have such a hatred for a game you've never played? Pathetic. :lol: I bet your comeback will be calling me butthurt, that's how predictable you are.

Oh, come on, even I thought that was pretty funny, Johnny really set that one up.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]You will cryTheDidact

I agree. Poor lems.

[QUOTE="TheDidact"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

I agree. Poor lems.

TilxWLOC

Why do you have such a hatred for a game you've never played? Pathetic. :lol: I bet your comeback will be calling me butthurt, that's how predictable you are.

Oh, come on, even I thought that was pretty funny, Johnny really set that one up.

[QUOTE="TilxWLOC"]

[QUOTE="TheDidact"]

Why do you have such a hatred for a game you've never played? Pathetic. :lol: I bet your comeback will be calling me butthurt, that's how predictable you are.

TheDidact

Oh, come on, even I thought that was pretty funny, Johnny really set that one up.

No, you , Loosingends , Adobe , Johnny and Shadow should be the last ones

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

Thats not fair to the other devs

D1ck move from them imo

hoosier7

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]sad people are so into their own opinions they insult others lol

Vatusus

Sad to see some people can't handle the truth and refuse to accept Journey's mediocrity.

Dayum, Ironic you call other "pseudo-intellectuals" for liking this game while being extremely obnoxious at the same time.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

Thats not fair to the other devs

D1ck move from them imo

Vatusus

Oh please. Now many will vote for them even if they do not believe they're the best devs this year only to get extra stuff

Journey was great and totally deserves the nominations. I give the VGAs a bit more credit for their inclusion of Journey and TWD.