Joystick tries out NXE.(Their impressions.)

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#1 sargentbotk
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Joystiq have gotten a chance to try out the New Xbox Experience. There are some quibbles, namely that you still can't set your default online status and some elements -- like Netflix -- are oddly placed. Even with the quibbles though, the pros seems to outweigh the cons. The NXE is fast, Avatars are easy to create, and the new party system allows players to jump from game to game with ease. Best of all, according to Joystiq, is the new guide, which recreates the original Blades system. The guide allows all the same functions as the current dashboard, even allowing you to launch another game from within one already being played (and allowing you to take your party with you).

It all sounds pretty sweet to us. Oh, and it's fast. Head over to Joystiq for their full impressions.

It seems they've taken one of the features that I liked on the PS3 and transfered it onto the Guide Button a.k.a Dashboard.(The ability to go into another game while you're already in one.)

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/09/joystiq-hands-on-the-new-xbox-experience/

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#2 Nedemis
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wow....sounds amazing and I question the Sony fanboys who still claim that XBL won't have the advantage over PSN still....I can not wait for this update and it's nice to hear these previews giving MS props for delivering a nice update. :)
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#3 too_much_eslim
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Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.
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#4 Tjeremiah1988
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cant wait.
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#5 Nedemis
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Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.too_much_eslim
Same here....I'm thinking I'll be hitting up Amazon soon. :)
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#6 lawlessx
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sounds like they really enjoyed NXE..cant wait for it to be released :)
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#7 carlisledavid79
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Is the update madatory. Can I just use the old Blades if I wish. Cant remember lol
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#8 lawlessx
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Is the update madatory. Can I just use the old Blades if I wish. Cant remember lolcarlisledavid79

yes it's an madatory update.

here is you're new blade system:

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#9 stappy
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]Is the update madatory. Can I just use the old Blades if I wish. Cant remember lollawlessx

yes it's an madatory update.

here is you're new blade system:

Looks like a mini-PSP or something!

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#10 carlisledavid79
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cool looks good
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#11 ReverseCycology
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Truly a New Xbox Experience.

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#12 Bentham
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I can't wait to install Dead Rising and Lost Odyssey on my HDD.
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#13 carlisledavid79
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Truly a New Xbox Experience.

ReverseCycology

Thats what its called

Would sound odd if they called it. "The next dashboard update from the previous one"

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Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.too_much_eslim

Hell yeah. I'm hoping they start selling the 60GB standalone or drop the price on the 120GB by the end of the year.

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#15 stappy
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Truly a New Xbox Experience.

carlisledavid79

Thats what its called

Would sound odd if they called it. "The next dashboard update from the previous one"

Or "The New Update We Think Rocks".

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#16 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Truly a New Xbox Experience.

stappy

Thats what its called

Would sound odd if they called it. "The next dashboard update from the previous one"

Or "The New Update We Think Rocks".

Or the new update pwns all!!!!one.!!

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All I need to know is if the installing of a game to hdd will help with texture pop in with games like Mass Effect and Gears.

If yes I'm happy.

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#18 -Ninja_Dog-
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.bez2083

Hell yeah. I'm hoping they start selling the 60GB standalone or drop the price on the 120GB by the end of the year.

Me too.

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#19 shadystxxx
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Im liking the new update, it's faster thats great, looks cool, party system sounds great, netflix, and the biggie full installs.

I have around 80gb left on my elite HDD and i could easily delete 15gb of demos so i will be installing several games on the hdd and switching from one to another in seconds without dropping my controller.

Im liking NXE.

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#20 yoshi_64
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I have to say I'm looking forward to it personally. It sounds great, and I hope the cons will not outwieght the pros like they say. The party system sounds good, and so do other features, but I think the interface looks a lot better than the "blades" too.

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I can't wait to install Dead Rising and Lost Odyssey on my HDD.Bentham

Fable 2 will be my first full install.

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#22 II-FBIsniper-II
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I still kind of like the look of the blades better, but I can't wait for this update.
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#23 web966
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Sounds great
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#24 njean777
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have to say kind of lame. I would be happy with the installing but something about paying way to much for an official xbox hardrive is even more lame.
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#25 world69star69
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.-Ninja_Dog-

Hell yeah. I'm hoping they start selling the 60GB standalone or drop the price on the 120GB by the end of the year.

Me too.

Funny how all you lems were bashing ps3 for having optional or dev placed hd installs. Well now you have it you like it? Sounds to me your hypocrites. Also the xbox hds are expensive proprietary crap. On ps3 i got a 320gb hd for $90. Its great. Looks like xbox gui is finally catching up to xmb.

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#26 thelastguy
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You can move your party to and from games? Wow, that sounds pretty sweet. Might have to get me a 360:P
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#27 GreyFoXX4
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Even with installs you'll still have to have the disk in the tray you do know that right. Just saying for the guy up above talking about going from game to game with out having to put his controller down.
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#28 Dreams-Visions
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can't wait.
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[QUOTE="Bentham"]I can't wait to install Dead Rising and Lost Odyssey on my HDD.xsubtownerx

Fable 2 will be my first full install.

That was my plan as well, but considering when the update launches (11/19) I will probably be on Fallout 3 at that point.(I have both Fable 2 and Fallout 3 on preorder, but I am letting my brother borrow Fallout right away because I don't like jumping in and out of two epic single player games at once.

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#30 Ilived
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Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.too_much_eslim

Why not just buy an external hard drive and save your games in it? It's what I do. 500gb external hard drive for less than $100

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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"][QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.world69star69

Hell yeah. I'm hoping they start selling the 60GB standalone or drop the price on the 120GB by the end of the year.

Me too.

Funny how all you lems were bashing ps3 for having optional or dev placed hd installs. Well now you have it you like it? Sounds to me your hypocrites. Also the xbox hds are expensive proprietary crap. On ps3 i got a 320gb hd for $90. Its great. Looks like xbox gui is finally catching up to xmb.

There is a difference between being forced to sit through what is essentially an extended loading time while you are playing or when you first put the disc in as opposed to having an option of ripping the game to your HD whenever you have the time.

However, I don't know why everyone makes such a big deal about the PS3 installs, whenever they popped up in MGS, I would just go the bathroom or get a snack, not a big deal at all.

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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"][QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.world69star69

Hell yeah. I'm hoping they start selling the 60GB standalone or drop the price on the 120GB by the end of the year.

Me too.

Funny how all you lems were bashing ps3 for having optional or dev placed hd installs. Well now you have it you like it? Sounds to me your hypocrites. Also the xbox hds are expensive proprietary crap. On ps3 i got a 320gb hd for $90. Its great. Looks like xbox gui is finally catching up to xmb.

Optional installs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mandatory installs.
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#33 stappy
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.Ilived

Why not just buy an external hard drive and save your games in it? It's what I do. 500gb external hard drive for less than $100

You need a special HDD for that. I have a 250GB External HDD, but it doesn't work with my 360, only my PC.

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#34 xsubtownerx
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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"][QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.world69star69

Hell yeah. I'm hoping they start selling the 60GB standalone or drop the price on the 120GB by the end of the year.

Me too.

Funny how all you lems were bashing ps3 for having optional or dev placed hd installs. Well now you have it you like it? Sounds to me your hypocrites. Also the xbox hds are expensive proprietary crap. On ps3 i got a 320gb hd for $90. Its great. Looks like xbox gui is finally catching up to xmb.

Um, the PS3 installs are MANDITORY. 360 installs are OPTIONAL. very simple to figure out who's doing it right. ;)

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[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"][QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.world69star69

Hell yeah. I'm hoping they start selling the 60GB standalone or drop the price on the 120GB by the end of the year.

Me too.

Funny how all you lems were bashing ps3 for having optional or dev placed hd installs. Well now you have it you like it? Sounds to me your hypocrites. Also the xbox hds are expensive proprietary crap. On ps3 i got a 320gb hd for $90. Its great. Looks like xbox gui is finally catching up to xmb.

Yet the installs are optional on the 360. Most ps3 games that use the install feature make it mandatory. Thats a big difference imo.

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[QUOTE="world69star69"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"][QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.sirk1264

Hell yeah. I'm hoping they start selling the 60GB standalone or drop the price on the 120GB by the end of the year.

Me too.

Funny how all you lems were bashing ps3 for having optional or dev placed hd installs. Well now you have it you like it? Sounds to me your hypocrites. Also the xbox hds are expensive proprietary crap. On ps3 i got a 320gb hd for $90. Its great. Looks like xbox gui is finally catching up to xmb.

Yet the installs are optional on the 360. Most ps3 games that use the install feature make it mandatory. Thats a big difference imo.

How do you know devs wont make it mandatory in the future?

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I can't wait to install Dead Rising and Lost Odyssey on my HDD.Bentham

LO could potentially be 8.5gb per DVD x 4... 34GB!!!! Even when you install PS3 games, you still have loads. Installing 34gb from DVD is gonna take a LONG time and it will destroy anything but a 120gb HDD. Not to mention that you could still have loads.

I think people will be amped about installing to HDD until they see one game taking up 8 gigs of space. Once they learn that they can't install the game and then sell it to someone else since you still need the disc to play it, they'll be even less interested in doing it.

Funny how all you lems were bashing ps3 for having OPTIONAL or dev placed hd installs. Well now you have it you like it? Sounds to me your hypocrites. Also the xbox hds are expensive proprietary crap. On ps3 i got a 320gb hd for $90. Its great. Looks like xbox gui is finally catching up to xmb.world69star69

Thats 100% BS for one reason: there are no OPTIONAL installs on PS3. Its mandatory. If you purcahsed a 20gb PS3... you got screwed. If you purcahsed a 40gb... you're screwed. With the 360 you can at least say, "I don't care about DLC or downloading movies so I don't need a big HDD." The PS3 forces you to be like, "I don't care about games so I don't need a big HDD"... which I don't think is something thats true for people buying video game consoles.

And its not like only no name games have installs. GTA4, DMC4, MGS4, GT5P... if a PS3 to play the latest versions of great PS2 franchises, you're screwed unless you just purcahsed a PS3 (now that 80gb is standard) or you purcahsed a $500+ PS3.

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#38 nerds_return
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2 questions:

when your in a party and someone starts up a game, does everybody need have the same game? so like im in a party of 4, i put in GeOW2, do the other three dudes need to have the game?

And

is there something on inside xbox about it?

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[QUOTE="sirk1264"][QUOTE="world69star69"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"][QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Man I just need a new hard drive. I really want to store certain games on the hardrive.njean777

Hell yeah. I'm hoping they start selling the 60GB standalone or drop the price on the 120GB by the end of the year.

Me too.

Funny how all you lems were bashing ps3 for having optional or dev placed hd installs. Well now you have it you like it? Sounds to me your hypocrites. Also the xbox hds are expensive proprietary crap. On ps3 i got a 320gb hd for $90. Its great. Looks like xbox gui is finally catching up to xmb.

Yet the installs are optional on the 360. Most ps3 games that use the install feature make it mandatory. Thats a big difference imo.

How do you know devs wont make it mandatory in the future?

quick answer. 360 Arcade model. You can't alienate the people who have the 360 arcade.

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#40 mingo123
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2 questions:

when your in a party and someone starts up a game, does everybody need have the same game? so like im in a party of 4, i put in GeOW2, do the other three dudes need to have the game?

And

is there something on inside xbox about it?

nerds_return

1. ofcourse they need to have the game as well

2. well recently on inside xbox they confirmed the release date of this update which is november 19

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So both NXE and Home are out on November 19th? I wonder if Sony and MS did that on purpose.
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#42 SSCyborg
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Gonna install Halo 3, Fable 2, and BK:N&B.

GONNA BE IN HEAVEN.

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#43 SSCyborg
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So both NXE and Home are out on November 19th? I wonder if Sony and MS did that on purpose.Floppy_Jim

Does Sony think releasing a BETA will help counter NXE or something?

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]So both NXE and Home are out on November 19th? I wonder if Sony and MS did that on purpose.SSCyborg

Does Sony think releasing a BETA will help counter NXE or something?

Maybe......? Let's JUST WAIT until November 19th.

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#45 naruto7777
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now i hve to get a bigger hard drive
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#46 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]So both NXE and Home are out on November 19th? I wonder if Sony and MS did that on purpose.Floppy_Jim

Does Sony think releasing a BETA will help counter NXE or something?

Maybe......? Let's JUST WAIT until November 19th.

I think as soon as they found out the date of NXE they decided to release what they had made so far, to try and counter NXE, only to show off how unfinished and useless Home will be.

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#47 nethernova
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I have around 80gb left on my elite HDD and i could easily delete 15gb of demos so i will be installing several games on the hdd and switching from one to another in seconds without dropping my controller.

shadystxxx

Well, you still have to insert the disk. I'm looking forward to not having to listen to the noise of the disk drive while playing. It's by far the loudest part of the console.

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#48 RobWil
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[QUOTE="shadystxxx"]

I have around 80gb left on my elite HDD and i could easily delete 15gb of demos so i will be installing several games on the hdd and switching from one to another in seconds without dropping my controller.

nethernova

Well, you still have to insert the disk. I'm looking forward to not having to listen to the noise of the disk drive while playing. It's by far the loudest part of the console.

The New Xbox's don't sound loud at all. Believe me, I have a launch xbox, and a xbox 360 60gb. They sound totally different.

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#50 dannyboyinxs
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All I need to know is if the installing of a game to hdd will help with texture pop in with games like Mass Effect and Gears.

If yes I'm happy.

-Ninja_Dog-

actually yes... if its reading the game off the hard disk then it'll load like sh*tloads
faster u wont even believe your eyes... here's some good info for u...

20x DVD read rate (fastest a dvd could possibly read)
27 MB/s

Sata HDD read rate (of course the xbox 360 would use sata at the least)
1.5 GB/s - 6.0 GB/s

so in other words, reading it off the hard disk will make it load at least 55x faster (hence, something like gta4 would probably load the entire map fully in half the time). all this while making the only noise source the fans

lol wouldnt it be funny though if they like released the NXE but it wass in fact JUST A RICK ROLL! OMFG AHAHAHAHA

or at least say its gonna be released on the 19th but just rick roll everyone keeping the real date hidden (this would also screw sony's home schedule)

see microsoft? good, arent i?