Just Curious If Anyone Here Actually Doubts Skyrim?

Games like Skyrim, packed with microdetail, a free humongous universe, and 300 hours worth of potential questing, does not come around often. Though I am sure not everyone may like the Elder Scrolls series, it has obviously made a name for itself, and it is hard not to realize Skyrim to be an extremly polished and hand crafted game.

So with a game this promising, I am curious to know how many of u actually doubt the game will live up to its expectations. I personally cant say i doubt the game, but im sure somebody here does lol. I would expect Morrowind purists might have higher expectations than me, harhar.

Morrowind and Oblivion bored me to death.

I'm sure this game will be the same.

No, it's going to be amazing, looks really good so far from all the videos I've seen. Unfortunately Wii owners won't be able to play it, they're missing out.

I doubt we'll get an awesome Expansion like the Shivering Isles with Sheogorath.

"Cheese for everyone!:D No wait scratch that cheese for no one.".:P

So you're doubting ME3, Skyrim...what's next? BF3? Uncharted 3? Or dare I say....Skyward Sword??mrmusicman247

I loved Daggerfall and Morrowind,but after Oblivion I have many reasons to doubt. It´s a game that I´m only getting when the good mods start coming out.

I doubt it, Bethesda's not made anything worth playing since Morrowind, and that was only good for it's time.

What I expect from Skyrim:

Terrible Combat
Very repetitive
Too easy
Cheesy
Bad/short story

:)

I doubt it, Bethesda's not made anything worth playing since Morrowind, and that was only good for it's time.

What I expect from Skyrim:

Terrible Combat
Very repetitive
Too easy
Cheesy
Bad/short story

:)

Inconsistancy

well thing about bethesda is the glory is usually mostly in the side quests, not main quest. So idk, main quest may not be the games strong suite. But u say cheesy??!! How can u possibly say that hahah! It screams epic! Yeah thats mostly opinion, but , come on just listen to that trailer music!

I loved Daggerfall and Morrowind,but after Oblivion I have many reasons to doubt. It´s a game that I´m only getting when the good mods start coming out.

Arach666

I loved Daggerfall and Morrowind,but after Oblivion I have many reasons to doubt. It´s a game that I´m only getting when the good mods start coming out.

Im worried about the battle system as oblivion's was awful and this looks the same. Also I don't think there will be over 300 hours of gameplay. If there is it will get really repetitive and boring. But I really do hope im wrong. Looks like it has great potential

Just give me a mod that removes fast travel and i think im good to go :)lawlessx

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Arach666"]

I loved Daggerfall and Morrowind,but after Oblivion I have many reasons to doubt. It´s a game that I´m only getting when the good mods start coming out.

ms555

I know it's optional..i just don't want to have a choice. :)

It will add to the immersion and make the game world feel much larger than it really is.

Are you kidding? After Oblivion, of course I have my doubts.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]Just give me a mod that removes fast travel and i think im good to go :)foxhound_fox

Im worried about the battle system as oblivion's was awful and this looks the same. Also I don't think there will be over 300 hours of gameplay. If there is it will get really repetitive and boring. But I really do hope im wrong. Looks like it has great potential

seanmcloughlin

well thing about bethesda is the glory is usually mostly in the side quests, not main quest. So idk, main quest may not be the games strong suite. But u say cheesy??!! How can u possibly say that hahah! It screams epic! Yeah thats mostly opinion, but , come on just listen to that trailer music!

ms555

And the main story should be the biggest focus, why's a side quest more important/intersting than the main one?

[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] Just give me a mod that removes fast travel and i think im good to go :)lawlessx

I know it's optional..i just don't want to have a choice. :)

It will add to the immersion and make the game world feel much larger than it really is.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]Just give me a mod that removes fast travel and i think im good to go :)foxhound_fox

they already have a "taxi" system in skyrim that brings you to places for a price.

I doubt it, Bethesda's not made anything worth playing since Morrowind, and that was only good for it's time.

What I expect from Skyrim:

Terrible Combat
Very repetitive
Too easy
Cheesy
Bad/short story

:)

Inconsistancy

They're improving the combat, it's not repetitive when there is tons of unique quests and environments, as opposed to most games where you walk through a linear level shooting things, there's difficulty settings, they improved dialogue and animations immensely, the story is improved and will likely be no shorter than 8 hours, not that story should even be a big focus with guild quests, side quests, and exploration.

[QUOTE="ms555"]

well thing about bethesda is the glory is usually mostly in the side quests, not main quest. So idk, main quest may not be the games strong suite. But u say cheesy??!! How can u possibly say that hahah! It screams epic! Yeah thats mostly opinion, but , come on just listen to that trailer music!

And the main story should be the biggest focus, why's a side quest more important/intersting than the main one?

Oblivion had some bad flaws:

1) Monster variety was lacking. No real boss fights. Just fight the same 'trash' mobs all game long.

2) Main quest was weak.

3) Combat animations were bad.

4) Player decisions don't affect the game much. I felt like I was just running errands for characters that actually mattered a lot of the time.

Don't take this to mean I think Oblivion is a bad game. There was a lot of fun to be had in the game, but I could definitely see Skyrim having some of the same shortcomings.

There are very many reasons to doubt Skyrim. I'm still very much looking forward to it though.

Oblivion had some bad flaws:

1) Monster variety was lacking. No real boss fights. Just fight the same 'trash' mobs all game long.

2) Main quest was weak.

3) Combat animations were bad.

4) Player decisions don't affect the game much. I felt like I was just running errands for characters that actually mattered a lot of the time.

Don't take this to mean I think Oblivion is a bad game. There was a lot of fun to be had in the game, but I could definitely see Skyrim having some of the same shortcomings.

juno84

3. Look up the videos from E3, they've shown the new animations, they're great and much improved.

I made a post in the "Share opinions you would get flamed for" thread that I will copy here:

Bethesda doesn't know how to make a rpg. Morrowind was amazing, but oblivion and fallout 3 sucked. As in they were crap. The fallout series should be handed over to Obsidian because they really know how to make a rpg and I don't want it being ruined by bethesda after experiencing New Vegas which I have to add was one of the best rpgs I've ever played.

In order to truly be an rpg you don't need stats or anything but you need to

(1) offer players choices. In Oblivion you get absolutely no choice in the main story, at all. You have to be the good guy and you can pretend you're actually evil but because the game doesn't offer that option or recognize it, it means nothing. And by choices I don't mean you can either be the white knight who saves the world and puts his life at risk for no gain to yourself whatsoever or be the phychotic killer who destroys the world for no reason other than blood lust, ! mean actual choices that are coated in shades of gray. You could save the world for a million dollars, ally with the enclave and kill Eden to profit off of selling water or screw everyone and take it for yourself.

(2) It needs to recognize those choices.

(3) It needs to have those choices have actual meaning, give consequences. In new vegas I was working for the NCR for some extra cash after I refused to go to the fort for mr. house because I thought it was suicide walking into their main camp after I killed some of them off even if pardoned me; I still didn't trust them. While working for the ncr they asked me to deal with some trouble in the slums. I go to the slums expecting to assassinate a guy but I decide to talk to the guy in charge to see if I could find out anything interesting. Turns out he's actually a very charismatic person who really understands whats going on in the slums and really wants to fix things but he's also not an idealist and his vision isn't clouded by any stupid dreams. So I end up working with him to fix some problems between the ncr and the kings (gang who have a lot of influence in the slums who he leads) but it turns out the the higher ups in the ncr don't like my decision and want me to go through with the assassination. I refuse and after doing a bit of extra work I manage to reach a peaceful ending for this quest. This quest also turns me away from the ncr and I end up helping mr. house. The game ends and it turns out I was a bad judge of character as mr. house, being a control freak, went into the slums to take full control of new vegas. He deemed the gang that I helped, and who was governing the slums and keeping things peaceful, as traitors because of the alliance they forged due to me. He ended up wiping all of them out; all because of that choice I made. Nothing like this can be found in Fallout 3 or Oblivion and that is why I regard them as failures.

I played Oblivion, Skyrim has to prove itself imo.

A little, but I sure I will love it just like Oblivion.

If you're an elder scrolls fan, I don't see how you can not be impressed with what we've seen so far.

I doubt Skyrim will even entertain me for even a short moment. So much I am disliking right now.

1. 18 Skills
2. No Attributes
3. Head, Chest, Boots only for armor slots, dont know about accessories yet
4. 4 Factions only
5. Combat that looks bad
6. Environments look bland so far
7. Bethesda is making it
8. Level Scaling
9. I am sick of Dragons
10. Rumored Romances
11. No Spears... again
12. No Primary skills
13. No Classes

I doubt Skyrim will even entertain me for even a short moment. So much I am disliking right now.

1. 18 Skills
2. No Attributes
3. Head, Chest, Boots
4. 4 Factions only
5. Combat that looks bad
6. Environments look bland so far
7. Bethesda is making it
8. Level Scaling
9. I am sick of Dragons
10. Rumored Romances
11. No Spears... again
12. No Primary skills
13. No Classes

Maroxad

How is the leveling system a problem in this game?

But I do agree strongly with alot of those points.

I think its going to suck but I'm still buying it down the road. It will have bad quests, bugs, weak RPG elements (to the point where its not an RPG), weird progression, copy and pasted areas and god awful writing. Why the hell would I buy it then? Mods, they made Oblivion (which I consider one of the worst games of the last 10 years unmodded) into one of the best action adventure games (Oblivion is not an RPG) in years.

It would be nice to be proved wrong but Bethesda is not what I would exactly call a quality developer. They do make a mean set of modding tools though.

I doubt Skyrim will even entertain me for even a short moment. So much I am disliking right now.

1. 18 Skills
2. No Attributes
3. Head, Chest, Boots only for armor slots, dont know about accessories yet
4. 4 Factions only
5. Combat that looks bad
6. Environments look bland so far
7. Bethesda is making it
8. Level Scaling
9. I am sick of Dragons
10. Rumored Romances
11. No Spears... again
12. No Primary skills
13. No Classes

Maroxad

These all have me worried...also why dont they add spears in morrowind they were so bad ass

It's going to be bad. Bethesda has disgraced itself, they aren't even a shadow of their past selves.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

I doubt Skyrim will even entertain me for even a short moment. So much I am disliking right now.

1. 18 Skills
2. No Attributes
3. Head, Chest, Boots
4. 4 Factions only
5. Combat that looks bad
6. Environments look bland so far
7. Bethesda is making it
8. Level Scaling
9. I am sick of Dragons
10. Rumored Romances
11. No Spears... again
12. No Primary skills
13. No Classes

epicstory

How is the leveling system a problem in this game?

While I am glad level scaling wont be as bad as it was in Oblivion chances are I am going to hate it here as well, I also disliked it in Fallout 3.

I dislike Level Scaling for 2 reasons. 1. In a worst case scenario it removes any danger from the world 2. It makes levelling a lot less rewarding.

[QUOTE="epicstory"]

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

I doubt Skyrim will even entertain me for even a short moment. So much I am disliking right now.

1. 18 Skills
2. No Attributes
3. Head, Chest, Boots
4. 4 Factions only
5. Combat that looks bad
6. Environments look bland so far
7. Bethesda is making it
8. Level Scaling
9. I am sick of Dragons
10. Rumored Romances
11. No Spears... again
12. No Primary skills
13. No Classes

Maroxad

How is the leveling system a problem in this game?

While I am glad level scaling wont be as bad as it was in Oblivion chances are I am going to hate it here as well, I also disliked it in Fallout 3.

I dislike Level Scaling for 2 reasons. 1. In a worst case scenario it removes any danger from the world 2. It makes levelling a lot less rewarding.

There was no level scaling in Fallout 3, they simply removed the really strong monsters from the game until you leveled up a bit, it reduces some realism so it's a lot less frustrating. I couldn't imagine why someone would enjoy being murdered by a monster with 10x your health that kills you in one hit.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

I doubt Skyrim will even entertain me for even a short moment. So much I am disliking right now.

1. 18 Skills
2. No Attributes
3. Head, Chest, Boots only for armor slots, dont know about accessories yet
4. 4 Factions only
5. Combat that looks bad
6. Environments look bland so far
7. Bethesda is making it
8. Level Scaling
9. I am sick of Dragons
10. Rumored Romances
11. No Spears... again
12. No Primary skills
13. No Classes

edinsftw

These all have me worried...also why dont they add spears in morrowind they were so bad ass

I love spears as well, I agree they are awesome.

Anyhow, to answer your question, it was because they are too hard to animate.

[QUOTE="epicstory"]

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

I doubt Skyrim will even entertain me for even a short moment. So much I am disliking right now.

1. 18 Skills
2. No Attributes
3. Head, Chest, Boots
4. 4 Factions only
5. Combat that looks bad
6. Environments look bland so far
7. Bethesda is making it
8. Level Scaling
9. I am sick of Dragons
10. Rumored Romances
11. No Spears... again
12. No Primary skills
13. No Classes

Maroxad

How is the leveling system a problem in this game?

While I am glad level scaling wont be as bad as it was in Oblivion chances are I am going to hate it here as well, I also disliked it in Fallout 3.

I dislike Level Scaling for 2 reasons. 1. In a worst case scenario it removes any danger from the world 2. It makes levelling a lot less rewarding.

That's true. It's fun when you go to a place and get your ass kicked, and than later you come back stronger and kill the enemies. I like the sense of danger.

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

I doubt Skyrim will even entertain me for even a short moment. So much I am disliking right now.

1. 18 Skills
2. No Attributes
3. Head, Chest, Boots only for armor slots, dont know about accessories yet
4. 4 Factions only
5. Combat that looks bad
6. Environments look bland so far
7. Bethesda is making it
8. Level Scaling
9. I am sick of Dragons
10. Rumored Romances
11. No Spears... again
12. No Primary skills
13. No Classes

Maroxad

These all have me worried...also why dont they add spears in morrowind they were so bad ass

I love spears as well, I agree they are awesome.

Anyhow, to answer your question, it was because they are too hard to animate.

You got a link to that?