Just curious, when is Microsoft set for their next worthwhile exclusive?

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#151 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="gaboi09"]

Look I think you're missing the point.

I don't need you try to explain to me how if MLB gets to be exclusive that lems get Dead rising (now you are tying to make up rules now..god that's not what I'm doing), because from why you're saying you're assuming Casey's original argument that GRAW being exclusive for the 360 is valid and correct in the first place...and that is the very thing that I am arguing against!!!!

I am arguing the standard by which and he tries quality one game exclusive vs another is his own and he bends and shaps them (standards) to match his desired outcome. That's why I am saying we should just use only what GS has deemed as Exclusive/multoplatform. I am not trying to bend/change/distort anything. I am trying to get a common measument so people can't just make up what ever rules fit their agena.

gaboi09

Oh, my bad, I was confused there for a moment.

That's cool man, you have good points to.

But the reason why people loose arguments with casey to begin with is simply because they play within the rules/boundries that he has made up...that's why nobody has ever beat him in an argument--he created the playing rules. When you change the rules (as I have done here) you see how he is not so willing to play the game.

That is why I didn't want you to focus of the drive to see which system gets more AAAEgames...and usingCasey's own personal standard to qualify it.

I see what you're getting at, but it seems kind of unfair about what Casey did don't you think? This mess wouldn't had started if more people came to an agreement of defining exclusives.
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#152 gaboi09
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[QUOTE="gaboi09"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Oh, my bad, I was confused there for a moment.mitu123

That's cool man, you have good points to.

But the reason why people loose arguments with casey to begin with is simply because they play within the rules/boundries that he has made up...that's why nobody has ever beat him in an argument--he created the playing rules. When you change the rules (as I have done here) you see how he is not so willing to play the game.

That is why I didn't want you to focus of the drive to see which system gets more AAAEgames...and usingCasey's own personal standard to qualify it.

I see what you're getting at, but it seems kind of unfair about what Casey did don't you think? This mess wouldn't had started if more people came to an agreement of defining exclusives.

:lol: that's just the thing, there was an agreement....GAMESPOT!!!!

edit:

Casey decided to change them because HE didn't agree with the terms by which GAMESPOT deemed GRAW for the 360 to be multiplat....and thus, now we have this chaos.

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#153 Evolution-X0
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Forza 3 is the next worthwhile exclusive i would think.
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#155 Supa__Mario
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[QUOTE="gaboi09"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="gaboi09"]

That's cool man, you have good points to.

But the reason why people loose arguments with casey to begin with is simply because they play within the rules/boundries that he has made up...that's why nobody has ever beat him in an argument--he created the playing rules. When you change the rules (as I have done here) you see how he is not so willing to play the game.

That is why I didn't want you to focus of the drive to see which system gets more AAAEgames...and usingCasey's own personal standard to qualify it.

I see what you're getting at, but it seems kind of unfair about what Casey did don't you think? This mess wouldn't had started if more people came to an agreement of defining exclusives.

:lol: that's just the thing, there was an agreement....GAMESPOT!!!!

edit:

Casey decided to change them because HE didn't agree with the terms by which GAMESPOT deemed GRAW for the 360 to be multiplat....and thus, now we have this chaos.

no worries bro......soon the ps3 will have more AAAE with or without the show 09 (which anyone who has played knows it is exclusive....)....
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="gaboi09"]

Truth of the matter is I'm not a cow and I don't even care if MLB The show is AAAE or not.

What pisses me off is the double standard I see trying to be pushed on people to make one gameing systems library look better than the other...

No matter how you look at it his argument is not based on logic or a common standard..he's just making his own terms up. Are both of these games not listed as multiplatform? It would be fine with me if both GRAW and MLB be listed not exclusive BECAUSE that how GS lists them anyway. But since Casey wants to insist that GRAW for the 360 is exclusive...AND in the same breath say that MLB the show for the PS3 is NOT, I want him to validify what I consider to beirronious logic.

So no I could care less if MLB is AAAE or not, I just hate hypocrites and people who can't play by their own rules.

He says the multiplatform version of GRAW is diffrent from the 360 version and thus exclusive, I say the multiplatform version of MLB the show is diffrent form the PS3 version thus exclusive...but "he says" it's the same so it's a multiplatform.

What is it all for? So he can say xbox360 has more exclusive AAAE games in his arguments like he has been doing--to say that the PS3 still hasn't cought up to the 360? why dose he even care about that? Why did he even make up SPECIALEXCEPTIONS for games to be exclusive on certian consoles when GS clearly list them as multiplatform? In the same breath why is he so hell bent on NOT letting a game on another console-that meets the same criteria as his SPECIAL EXCEPTION-get the same treatment?

gaboi09

these are not my rules. i did not make up that chart. i did not decide that graw 360 is exclusive and mlb is not. gs lists it as multiplat because they have the same name and were released at the same time. the ps2 version of lego star wars as listed right along with the psp version even though they are completely different.

So those are not your rules? You didn't make up the chart? And you did not decide that GRAW 360 is exclusive and MLB is not?

Are you people reading this?

So...why in the word are you arguing for the validity fo those rules (you didn't make up) charts (you didn't make up) and the idea that GRAW 360 is exclusive and MLB for PS3 is not (if it's not something that you decided?)?

So if you didn't decide all that stuff (regardless of how youwhimsically post those charts everytime this discussion is brought up as your back as you proof it's fact) thenwho in the world did? Because it sure wasn't GAMESPOT!!!

As a matter of fact it is some random outside source OF YOUR CHOOSING is it not? And the reason why it's valid to you is because It backs up your argument. Wellwhat if I get someone to make up me a chart and makeMLB theshow a PS3 exclusive and GRAW for the 360 not...what then?

The reason why you fail is because you don't have a common standard. The only true rule here in system wars that was decided by ALL members here is the GAMESPOT is the last word on games in argument..and you have broken that by bringing in your silly chart made up by some random site/person when GS says these game are multiplatform.

yes, yes, and yes. how many times do i have to say it. i'm defending it because it's what was decided that we use. it's an unbiased chart updated by regular users here. it's even in the official system wars info thread. it goes by gamespot. you're the one trying to twist things around here for your own agenda.

it was decided that graw 360 and graw pc were different long before i even owned a 360. all i had was the pc version.

apparently none of this matters, though, cause you have your assumptions to rely on. :roll:

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#157 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="gaboi09"] *sigh*

I know the diffrences...I've done my homework. I think I've made Casey too causious of me, and thus he didn't bite the bait. He rewored the whole way he argued his point, and I can still make my argument no matter what he says but if I reveal to you what my real point of argument is he will be able to dodge me yet again...

Don't assume I don't know what I'm talking about...this argument is for Casey, so I don't need you telling me to play the games.

gaboi09

if you have something then SPIT IT OUT. all you are doing is prolonging this. if you have something, say it. i've been forthcoming but you haven't.

and why is this just for me? how many times do i have to tell you that i'm not the one who decided this?

If I do that then I will have to makea new thread so everybody can see my argument. If you are not going to be man enough to fess up toyour prior main argument of why think GRAW for the 360 is exclusive then im not just going to spit it out.

What about you? Why don't you just SPIT IT OUT...all you are doing is proloning this. What is/was your 1 main argument/reason why you have said that GRAW for the 360 is exclusive up until now (seeing as how you have changed, reworded what make it diffrent now).Give me the "1" main big reason/diffrence why GRAW for the 360 is exclusive and I will gladly SPIT IT OUT-DEAL.

you asked me to explain why graw is exclusive and i did. why ignore it? :|

i don't have one main reason. i have several. again, different developers, different ai, different level design, different perspective, different way of controlling your squad, one is tactical and the other more action oriented. i've been forthcoming every step of the way. why haven't you?

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#158 tonitorsi
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Forza 3 is the next worthwhile exclusive i would think.Evolution-X0

Meh, its been quite a long time since they've released a "worthwile exclussive".

Thanks to E3, thatshould be changing anytime soon.

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no worries bro......soon the ps3 will have more AAAE with or without the show 09 (which anyone who has played knows it is exclusive....)....Supa__Mario

Have you played both versions of MLB 09 The Show?

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#160 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="gaboi09"]

That's cool man, you have good points to.

But the reason why people loose arguments with casey to begin with is simply because they play within the rules/boundries that he has made up...that's why nobody has ever beat him in an argument--he created the playing rules. When you change the rules (as I have done here) you see how he is not so willing to play the game.

That is why I didn't want you to focus of the drive to see which system gets more AAAEgames...and usingCasey's own personal standard to qualify it.

gaboi09

I see what you're getting at, but it seems kind of unfair about what Casey did don't you think? This mess wouldn't had started if more people came to an agreement of defining exclusives.

:lol: that's just the thing, there was an agreement....GAMESPOT!!!!

edit:

Casey decided to change them because HE didn't agree with the terms by which GAMESPOT deemed GRAW for the 360 to be multiplat....and thus, now we have this chaos.

show me how they deemed it multiplat. is it because the game is listed "also on" pc? gamespot does that because the games have the same title and were released around the same time. this is what they always do even when the games are completely different. look at lego star wars. the ps2 and gba versions are completely different but are listed as "also on".

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#161 DeckardLee
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The only reason the 360 looks bad is because the PC has most of them as well and no one wants to play a dumbed-down console version :D If you're only a console gamer then the 360 looks considerably better.

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#162 Supa__Mario
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all 3 versions.....
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#163 LeGoofyGoober
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Forza 3, Halo Reach? the 360 has some great exclusives coming out.
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#164 mitu123
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Forza 3, Halo Reach? the 360 has some great exclusives coming out. LeGoofyGoober
Add Halo 3 ODST and Crackdown 2(next year), needs more though.
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#165 Silverbond
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all 3 versions.....Supa__Mario
Can you explain for everyone here or in another thread the differences between them?

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#166 Supa__Mario
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[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"]all 3 versions.....Silverbond

Can you explain for everyone here or in another thread the differences between them?

before i do.....plz explain to me what needs to be different in a sports game for it to be considered different....?
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#167 makincopies
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[QUOTE="Evolved_One"]another halo.MickeyTheNinja
When ODST gets released itll be 2 years since Halo 3...the last REAL Halo game. And watch it get AAAE, and this is coming from a non-Halo fanboy.

ODST is just a full priced expansion to halo 3
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#168 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"]all 3 versions.....Supa__Mario

Can you explain for everyone here or in another thread the differences between them?

before i do.....plz explain to me what needs to be different in a sports game for it to be considered different....?

Gameplay, modes and features I believe, I tried to get Dead Rising exclusive because they're not even the same exact game and they still count it as multiplat, that's not right, good luck.
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#169 Supa__Mario
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[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]Can you explain for everyone here or in another thread the differences between them?

mitu123

before i do.....plz explain to me what needs to be different in a sports game for it to be considered different....?

Gameplay, modes and features I believe, I tried to get Dead Rising exclusive because they're not even the same exact game and they still count it as multiplat, that's not right, good luck.

i want more specific......what exactly has to be different in two baseball games for them to be called different....only reason im asking is because i have seen some of these exact samereasons given and shut down.....so i want to see what exactly has to be different.....and i will add more to those others have mentioned....

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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Supa__Mario"] before i do.....plz explain to me what needs to be different in a sports game for it to be considered different....?Supa__Mario

Gameplay, modes and features I believe, I tried to get Dead Rising exclusive because they're not even the same exact game and they still count it as multiplat, that's not right, good luck.

i want more specific......what exactly has to be different in two baseball games for them to be called different....only reason im asking is because i have seen some of these exact samereasons given and shut down.....so i want to see what exactly has to be different.....and i will add more to those others have mentioned....

You might have to ask Casey for this one, otherwise it won't count.
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Supa__Mario"]

Gameplay, modes and features I believe, I tried to get Dead Rising exclusive because they're not even the same exact game and they still count it as multiplat, that's not right, good luck.mitu123
i want more specific......what exactly has to be different in two baseball games for them to be called different....only reason im asking is because i have seen some of these exact samereasons given and shut down.....so i want to see what exactly has to be different.....and i will add more to those others have mentioned....

You might have to ask Casey for this one, otherwise it won't count.

its hard to say eh.....cuz baseball games are so similar......its the little things.......but dont worry.....i got a big thing too that totally sets it apart......but i will share it once i get some confirmation first....
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Supa__Mario"] i want more specific......what exactly has to be different in two baseball games for them to be called different....only reason im asking is because i have seen some of these exact samereasons given and shut down.....so i want to see what exactly has to be different.....and i will add more to those others have mentioned....

Supa__Mario

You might have to ask Casey for this one, otherwise it won't count.

its hard to say eh.....cuz baseball games are so similar......its the little things.......but dont worry.....i got a big thing too that totally sets it apart......but i will share it once i get some confirmation first....

You should tell the differences 1st so we can finally believe it and possibly confirm it. I remember one guy trying to and he didn't make it.

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[QUOTE="gaboi09"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

these are not my rules. i did not make up that chart. i did not decide that graw 360 is exclusive and mlb is not. gs lists it as multiplat because they have the same name and were released at the same time. the ps2 version of lego star wars as listed right along with the psp version even though they are completely different.

CaseyWegner

So those are not your rules? You didn't make up the chart? And you did not decide that GRAW 360 is exclusive and MLB is not?

Are you people reading this?

So...why in the word are you arguing for the validity fo those rules (you didn't make up) charts (you didn't make up) and the idea that GRAW 360 is exclusive and MLB for PS3 is not (if it's not something that you decided?)?

So if you didn't decide all that stuff (regardless of how youwhimsically post those charts everytime this discussion is brought up as your back as you proof it's fact) thenwho in the world did? Because it sure wasn't GAMESPOT!!!

As a matter of fact it is some random outside source OF YOUR CHOOSING is it not? And the reason why it's valid to you is because It backs up your argument. Wellwhat if I get someone to make up me a chart and makeMLB theshow a PS3 exclusive and GRAW for the 360 not...what then?

The reason why you fail is because you don't have a common standard. The only true rule here in system wars that was decided by ALL members here is the GAMESPOT is the last word on games in argument..and you have broken that by bringing in your silly chart made up by some random site/person when GS says these game are multiplatform.

yes, yes, and yes. how many times do i have to say it. i'm defending it because it's what was decided that we use. it's an unbiased chart updated by regular users here.it's even in the official system wars info thread. it goes by gamespot. you're the one trying to twist things around here for your own agenda.

it was decided that graw 360 and graw pc were different long before i even owned a 360. all i had was the pc version.

apparently none of this matters, though, cause you have your assumptions to rely on. :roll:

"..it's what was decided we use."

:? I'm confused, what is "it" and who are "we" and "how" was it "decided"?

"an unbiased chart updated by regular users here."

:lol: LMAO...Casey please who are you tring to kid, there are no "regular users" here only a bunch of fanboys and as you very well know there is no such thing as fanboys making an "unbiased charts".

Fine Casey who are these "Regular Users" That had the distinguished pleasure of this godly "unbiased" chart? Also how were they chosen...did "WE" decide that too? :D and can I become one of these mysterious unbiased chart makers...I'd like to make some corrections because it seem to be inconsistant.

And btw I don't have an agenda buddy...I stated my purpose cleary several times in this thread, I dont handle mine in thesameway that you do.

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[QUOTE="gaboi09"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] I see what you're getting at, but it seems kind of unfair about what Casey did don't you think? This mess wouldn't had started if more people came to an agreement of defining exclusives.CaseyWegner

:lol: that's just the thing, there was an agreement....GAMESPOT!!!!

edit:

Casey decided to change them because HE didn't agree with the terms by which GAMESPOT deemed GRAW for the 360 to be multiplat....and thus, now we have this chaos.

show me how they deemed it multiplat. is it because the game is listed "also on" pc? gamespot does that because the games have the same title and were released around the same time. this is what they always do even when the games are completely different. look at lego star wars. the ps2 and gba versions are completely different but are listed as "also on".

:| Yes casey, is that so hard to understand.

Who are you to say any diffrent. You are making up you own standards, talking about a group of regular users updating an unbias chart that dose not list NGS exclusive for PS3 nor MLB the show but GRAW is...GET OUT OF HERE THAT UNBIAS MESS. It a bunch of xbox fanboys

Well Casey why can't I get some "Regular users" to make up an"unbiased chart" that shows MLB the show and NGS to be exclusive for PS3and GRAW for the 360 not, how is your chart made up by regular users now anymore valid than my chart made up by regular users?

It's ovbious to all now that YOU don't these games to be counted as exclusive because it won't give xbox360 the advantage in argument anymore.

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#175 Supa__Mario
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[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"][QUOTE="mitu123"] You might have to ask Casey for this one, otherwise it won't count.mitu123

its hard to say eh.....cuz baseball games are so similar......its the little things.......but dont worry.....i got a big thing too that totally sets it apart......but i will share it once i get some confirmation first....

You should tell the differences 1st so we can finally believe it and possibly confirm it. I remember one guy trying to and he didn't make it.

i wont say the biggest thing.....but i will say what fanboys wont confirm....they wont confirm batting has to be different.....because they know the batting mechanics are different in the ps3 version.....along with the timing of it.......they wont say fielding.....because they know the fielding interface is different in the ps3 version.........they wont say game modes.....because they know ps3 has batting practice mode.......they wont say road to show.....cuz they know ps3 has interactive training in it......they wont say level design......because they know ps3 has more detailed stadiums....some of which actually affect the gameplay......they wont say the characters.......because ps3 version has roster updates including all players all the way from A ball....AA ball....AAA ball.....and the majors.......they wont options...because they know ps3 mode has more of them in the franchise mode and gm mode........they wont say camera angles like 1st and 3rd person shooting.....because they know the ps3 version has more camera angles....inluding the realistic tv mode from behind the pitcher and extra batting angles......they wont say animations......because the ps3 version has completely new ones and the other versions use old ones........they wont say sounds....because the ps3 version has outdone itself...........they wont say the little things like appeal calls....baserunning.....controls......and stats....because they ps3 is exclusive in those......these are not enough reasons.......so i got something greater then this.....and i will share it once i get some about what exactly does have to be different.....
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#176 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"] its hard to say eh.....cuz baseball games are so similar......its the little things.......but dont worry.....i got a big thing too that totally sets it apart......but i will share it once i get some confirmation first....Supa__Mario

You should tell the differences 1st so we can finally believe it and possibly confirm it. I remember one guy trying to and he didn't make it.

i wont say the biggest thing...and i will share it once i get some about what exactly does have to be different.....

It'd be easier if you just said the biggest thing now. Or PM it to somebody.

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#177 xsubtownerx
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This is the biggest story nobody's talking about. The Xbox360 is in a serious drought. It won't top the Wii drought of '08, but people also don't take the Wii as seriously as they take the Xbox.

mdisen2
What drought? There's tons of multiplat games that are gonna be awesome this year. Not to mention a few 360/PC games that the Wii and PS3 won't see.
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#178 Supa__Mario
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"][QUOTE="mitu123"] You should tell the differences 1st so we can finally believe it and possibly confirm it. I remember one guy trying to and he didn't make it.

i wont say the biggest thing...and i will share it once i get some about what exactly does have to be different.....

It'd be easier if you just said the biggest thing now. Or PM it to somebody.

is it That hard to say what has to be different just because ppl know already the reasons i listed are enough to know the two games are completely different...?.....those are enough reasons lol........which one of those reasons Doesnt make a baseball game unique...?.....i want some answers for those first before getting another thing brushed off like fanboys are trying to do with those....
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#179 Supa__Mario
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[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

i wont say the biggest thing...and i will share it once i get some about what exactly does have to be different.....Supa__Mario

It'd be easier if you just said the biggest thing now. Or PM it to somebody.

is it That hard to say what has to be different just because ppl know already the reasons i listed are enough to know the two games are completely different...?.....those are enough reasons lol........which one of those reasons Doesnt make a baseball game unique...?.....i want some answers for those first before getting another thing brushed off like fanboys are trying to do with those....

do you think the ps3 and ps2 version got different ratings just because of graphics.....?.....no.....because they are different games with the same name......
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#180 gaboi09
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Listen Casey if you want to change the rules and don't agree thatall games with the "also on" tag by GAMESPOT are multiplatform then you are going to have to do better than simply trying to make up your own rule/charts/ and personlly deciding which games are exclusive and which games are exclusive.

I can work with you but there has to be a COMMON STANDARD, not what YOU want to MAKE it to fit the OUTCOME you would like to see.

Example:

You say GRAW has "more" this and "diffrnet" that and it "contorols" like this etc etc right? You also Say Strar wars legos for PS3 is totally "diffrent" than the PSP version...

The problem with what you're saying is all of stuff is ambigious and can't really be defined and then when you have diffrent geners the standards change for how the "diffrences" affect how diffrent the game may be.

So how about this, if a game is multiplatform between diffrent generations of systems and the current and past gen system have significant diffrences (if the only diffrence is HD graphics then it dosen't count) and dose not also share the title with another current gen system...then it can be considerd exclusive. SEE that is what I mean by common standard ANYBODY could look at this and be able to clearly define what is exclusive and not and it's fair across the board...NO? Or is that not fair to you?

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#182 Steel-Panther
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Listen Casey if you want to change the rules and don't agree thatall gameswith the "also on" tag by GAMESPOT are multiplatform then you are going to have to do better than simply trying to make up your own rule/charts/ and personlly deciding which games are exclusive and which games are exclusive.

I can work with you but there has to bea COMMON STANDARD, not what YOU want to MAKE it to fit the OUTCOME you would like to see.

Example:

You say GRAW has "more" this and "diffrnet" that and it "contorols" like this etc etc right? You also Say Strar wars legos for PS3 is totally "diffrent" than the PSP version...

The problem with what you're saying is all of stuff is ambigious and can't really be defined and then when you have diffrent geners the standards change for how the "diffrences" affect how diffrent the game may be.

So how about this, if a game is multiplatform between diffrent generationsofsystems and thecurrent and past gen system have significant diffrences and dose not also share the title with another current gen system...then it can be considerd exclusive. SEE that is what I mean by common standard ANYBODY could look at this and be able to clearly define what is exclusive and not and it's fair across the board...NO? Or is that not fair to you?

gaboi09

Well the problem is that no one can ever agree what is or isn't a significant difference. There will never be such thing as a "common standard" here unless it's something decided by the majority and/or the mods.

And how do you know Casey made that rule? He's just doing his job by enforcing it.

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#183 fourseamer4
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Left 4 Dead 2 and Alan Wake.
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#184 simslifer
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Left 4 Dead 2 and Alan Wake.fourseamer4

he said exclusive

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#185 Steel-Panther
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[QUOTE="Supa__Mario"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

It'd be easier if you just said the biggest thing now. Or PM it to somebody.

Supa__Mario

is it That hard to say what has to be different just because ppl know already the reasons i listed are enough to know the two games are completely different...?.....those are enough reasons lol........which one of those reasons Doesnt make a baseball game unique...?.....i want some answers for those first before getting another thing brushed off like fanboys are trying to do with those....

do you think the ps3 and ps2 version got different ratings just because of graphics.....?.....no.....because they are different games with the same name......

Alright.. i know people have been spending a lot of time debating this.. but seriously, it's a BASEBALL game. How many different ways are there to play baseball? Unless we're talking about a series like The Bigs or Slugfest then most baseball games are the same thing every year, and the main goal for the developers would be making the game as much as they can like the real-life experience. Same thing with the NBA games, or Madden games..

Aside from controls, NBA 2k9 and NBA Live 2009 would be very similar, and they are made by different companies..

That's still just my opinion, but i believe that's what it all boils down to.

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#186 gaboi09
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[QUOTE="gaboi09"]

Listen Casey if you want to change the rules and don't agree thatall gameswith the "also on" tag by GAMESPOT are multiplatform then you are going to have to do better than simply trying to make up your own rule/charts/ and personlly deciding which games are exclusive and which games are exclusive.

I can work with you but there has to bea COMMON STANDARD, not what YOU want to MAKE it to fit the OUTCOME you would like to see.

Example:

You say GRAW has "more" this and "diffrnet" that and it "contorols" like this etc etc right? You also Say Strar wars legos for PS3 is totally "diffrent" than the PSP version...

The problem with what you're saying is all of stuff is ambigious and can't really be defined and then when you have diffrent geners the standards change for how the "diffrences" affect how diffrent the game may be.

So how about this, if a game is multiplatform between diffrent generationsofsystems and thecurrent and past gen system have significant diffrences and dose not also share the title with another current gen system...then it can be considerd exclusive. SEE that is what I mean by common standard ANYBODY could look at this and be able to clearly define what is exclusive and not and it's fair across the board...NO? Or is that not fair to you?

Steel-Panther

Well the problem is that no one can ever agree what is or isn't a significant difference. There will never be such thing as a "common standard" here unless it's something decided by the majority and/or the mods.

And how do you know Casey made that rule? He's just doing his job by enforcing it.

Well I was just giving an example, and yes I also agree about that "significant diffrences" comment. Fanboys will be fanboys...That is why I origianlly argued that GAMESPOT be the standard but Casey dosn't like that idea...oh I forgot, "we" decided that...or did we?

:| if we decided on this and this is a general rule in systems wars (that GRAW for the 360 has the sole privilage of being counted exclusive and on systemwars) ..where is this sticky for this rule that we all obviouly know about, voted in, and agreed upon? Because as far as I know Casey is the only one who agrees the we all agree with what he is saying.

:shock: DO YOU KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT? Did you agree to uh...whatever it is he's saying everybody agreed upon?

I'd like to see because if this is some kind established unbreakable rule that WE agreed uponANDexplains the logic/standards/and requirementsfor what makes it sothen it should be stickied...and then maybe I wouldn't any problems at all. Personlly I don't think any such an agreement ever happend. Of course when casey came with that argument to xbox360 fanboys would all agree...But the whole community of Systemwars...show me the poll and link me the thread!!!

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#187 Supa__Mario
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[QUOTE="gaboi09"]

[QUOTE="Steel-Panther"]

[QUOTE="gaboi09"]

Listen Casey if you want to change the rules and don't agree thatall gameswith the "also on" tag by GAMESPOT are multiplatform then you are going to have to do better than simply trying to make up your own rule/charts/ and personlly deciding which games are exclusive and which games are exclusive.

I can work with you but there has to bea COMMON STANDARD, not what YOU want to MAKE it to fit the OUTCOME you would like to see.

Example:

You say GRAW has "more" this and "diffrnet" that and it "contorols" like this etc etc right? You also Say Strar wars legos for PS3 is totally "diffrent" than the PSP version...

The problem with what you're saying is all of stuff is ambigious and can't really be defined and then when you have diffrent geners the standards change for how the "diffrences" affect how diffrent the game may be.

So how about this, if a game is multiplatform between diffrent generationsofsystems and thecurrent and past gen system have significant diffrences and dose not also share the title with another current gen system...then it can be considerd exclusive. SEE that is what I mean by common standard ANYBODY could look at this and be able to clearly define what is exclusive and not and it's fair across the board...NO? Or is that not fair to you?

Well the problem is that no one can ever agree what is or isn't a significant difference. There will never be such thing as a "common standard" here unless it's something decided by the majority and/or the mods.

And how do you know Casey made that rule? He's just doing his job by enforcing it.

Well I was just giving an example, and yes I also agree about that "significant diffrences" comment. Fanboys will be fanboys...That is why I origianlly argued that GAMESPOT be the standard but Casey dosn't like that idea...oh I forgot, "we" decided that...or did we?

:| if we decided on this and this is a general rule in systems wars (that GRAW for the 360 has the sole privilage of being counted exclusive and on systemwars) ..where is this sticky for this rule that we all obviouly know about, voted in, and agreed upon? Because as far as I know Casey is the only one who agrees the we all agree with what he is saying.

:shock: DO YOU KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT? Did you agree to uh...whatever it is he's saying everybody agreed upon?

I'd like to see because if this is some kind established unbreakable rule that WE agreed uponANDexplains the logic/standards/and requirementsfor what makes it sothen it should be stickied...and then maybe I wouldn't any problems at all. Personlly I don't think any such an agreement ever happend. Of course when casey came with that argument to xbox360 fanboys would all agree...But the whole community of Systemwars...show me the poll and link me the thread!!!

make a thread with a new poll......i cant do polls...
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forza 3 which is in october and ii can't wait

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[QUOTE="fourseamer4"]Left 4 Dead 2 and Alan Wake.simslifer

he said exclusive

According to Gamespot they're exclusive "Microsoft was clear winner with exclusives like Alan Wake,Crackdown 2, Forza 3, Shadow Complex and Splinter Cell: Conviction. Microsoft was already in good shape but the thing that really sold us was Project Natal."
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#190 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

[QUOTE="fourseamer4"]Left 4 Dead 2 and Alan Wake.fourseamer4

he said exclusive

According to Gamespot they're exclusive "Microsoft was clear winner with exclusives like Alan Wake,Crackdown 2, Forza 3, Shadow Complex and Splinter Cell: Conviction. Microsoft was already in good shape but the thing that really sold us was Project Natal."

Well, they're not.

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[QUOTE="fourseamer4"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

he said exclusive

Silverbond

According to Gamespot they're exclusive "Microsoft was clear winner with exclusives like Alan Wake,Crackdown 2, Forza 3, Shadow Complex and Splinter Cell: Conviction. Microsoft was already in good shape but the thing that really sold us was Project Natal."

Well, they're not.

They're console exclusives, which is what people are arguing about, so who cares?
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[QUOTE="fourseamer4"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

he said exclusive

Silverbond

According to Gamespot they're exclusive "Microsoft was clear winner with exclusives like Alan Wake,Crackdown 2, Forza 3, Shadow Complex and Splinter Cell: Conviction. Microsoft was already in good shape but the thing that really sold us was Project Natal."

Well, they're not.

I'll side with Gamespot since we are on THEIR boards.
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I feel that 360 needs to quit dwelling on Halo. All franchises come to an end at some point. They should have stopped after 3. Halo Wars wasn't very impressive, and I couldn't believe that they are releasing at least another 2 Halo games. It feels like such a drag on.

As for a worthwhile exclusive, I think Forza 3 is the next one.

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#194 -GeordiLaForge-
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I feel that 360 needs to quit dwelling on Halo. All franchises come to an end at some point. They should have stopped after 3. Halo Wars wasn't very impressive, and I couldn't believe that they are releasing at least another 2 Halo games. It feels like such a drag on.

As for a worthwhile exclusive, I think Forza 3 is the next one.

BPoole96
After the end of Halo 3, with Master Chief being trapped halfway across the galaxy near the artificial forerunner planet, I would be insanely aggrivated if they didn't make a sequel...
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#195 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="fourseamer4"] According to Gamespot they're exclusive "Microsoft was clear winner with exclusives like Alan Wake,Crackdown 2, Forza 3, Shadow Complex and Splinter Cell: Conviction. Microsoft was already in good shape but the thing that really sold us was Project Natal."fourseamer4

Well, they're not.

I'll side with Gamespot since we are on THEIR boards.

So I guess Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, The Last Guardian, and Final Fantasy XIV are nowhere near as good as those exclusives

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#196 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I feel that 360 needs to quit dwelling on Halo. All franchises come to an end at some point. They should have stopped after 3. Halo Wars wasn't very impressive, and I couldn't believe that they are releasing at least another 2 Halo games. It feels like such a drag on.

As for a worthwhile exclusive, I think Forza 3 is the next one.

-GeordiLaForge-

After the end of Halo 3, with Master Chief being trapped halfway across the galaxy near the artificial forerunner planet, I would be insanely aggrivated if they didn't make a sequel...

I guess you're right about that, but with them making side stories like ODST and games that aren't even an FPS just seems like they're using then name. Some of my idiotic friends bought Halo Wars expecting to play an FPS just because it was Halo.

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#197 fourseamer4
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[QUOTE="fourseamer4"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Well, they're not.

BPoole96

I'll side with Gamespot since we are on THEIR boards.

So I guess Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, The Last Guardian, and Final Fantasy XIV are nowhere near as good as those exclusives

I personally never said they were better. Just stated that Gamespot considered them exclusive. I'll take Uncharted 2 and GOW3 for sure, don't care about the rest really.
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

[QUOTE="fourseamer4"]Left 4 Dead 2 and Alan Wake.fourseamer4

he said exclusive

According to Gamespot they're exclusive "Microsoft was clear winner with exclusives like Alan Wake,Crackdown 2, Forza 3, Shadow Complex and Splinter Cell: Conviction. Microsoft was already in good shape but the thing that really sold us was Project Natal."

i'll be playing those 'exclusives' on my pc ... well except for alan wake .. .that game looks boring.
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#199 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I feel that 360 needs to quit dwelling on Halo. All franchises come to an end at some point. They should have stopped after 3. Halo Wars wasn't very impressive, and I couldn't believe that they are releasing at least another 2 Halo games. It feels like such a drag on.

As for a worthwhile exclusive, I think Forza 3 is the next one.

BPoole96

After the end of Halo 3, with Master Chief being trapped halfway across the galaxy near the artificial forerunner planet, I would be insanely aggrivated if they didn't make a sequel...

I guess you're right about that, but with them making side stories like ODST and games that aren't even an FPS just seems like they're using then name. Some of my idiotic friends bought Halo Wars expecting to play an FPS just because it was Halo.

lol, that's great. But I think that they're making ODST to fill the void between now and the release of the next XBox. I figure that the sequel will be on the next system.
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#200 tonitorsi
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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I feel that 360 needs to quit dwelling on Halo. All franchises come to an end at some point. They should have stopped after 3. Halo Wars wasn't very impressive, and I couldn't believe that they are releasing at least another 2 Halo games. It feels like such a drag on.

As for a worthwhile exclusive, I think Forza 3 is the next one.

BPoole96

After the end of Halo 3, with Master Chief being trapped halfway across the galaxy near the artificial forerunner planet, I would be insanely aggrivated if they didn't make a sequel...

I guess you're right about that, but with them making side stories like ODST and games that aren't even an FPS just seems like they're using then name. Some of my idiotic friends bought Halo Wars expecting to play an FPS just because it was Halo.

*looks at sig* :?

Damn, you're a great pleya!

Level 12 is about the highest I've seen yet :shock:

Anyway, I loved Halo and all, but they should have just stopped after Halo 3, now it feels as if they're mlking it to the ends of the world.