Just finished GS's GOTY, Movie Gear Solid 4..

I must say that it's one of the best (and worst) video game experiences you'll ever have. The Graphics and Cinematics are off the chart and the story in unmatched in the VG world. However, I must have spent like 6 hours actually playing the game.. :? I will say that if you a MG fan(like me) you won't find a better experience.. but in all honesty I hope Kojima finally put this puppy to bed.

btw, anyone complaining about this game being selected for Best Graphics... you need to play this title.. This game ****s on 98% of 360 games. But I'd imagine having to install every chapter helps.

OhSnapitz

[QUOTE="dattruth4real"]funny I rememberd around 10+ hours of fun gameplay.Jigsaw9798

why do people hate good gamesAfro_Samurai1

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]1. Its Metal Gear Solid..."Movie Gear Solid" is got real old eons ago :? 2. Watch the GOTY video here at GS and fully understand why the long movies are an plus rather than a minus.dattruth4real

Think of it this way, mgs4 was mainly a lovenote too fans, it wasnt meant too pick up any new fans, although it deffinetley has, and the whole long cinematic complaint is extremely longwinded, the only overly long cinematic was the ending one, but it was a bit justified when you look at it as Kojima had too close all the open gaps in the otherwise fantastic saga.

Surely you don't spend 6+ years developing probably the most expensive game to date without ambition to increase its popularity.

I bet even Shigeru Miyamoto is jealous of the sheer amount of lee-way Kojima gets.

1. Its Metal Gear Solid..."Movie Gear Solid" is got real old eons ago :? 2. Watch the GOTY video here at GS and fully understand why the long movies are an plus rather than a minus.II_Seraphim_II

Yea cause I enjoy WATCHING my video games as opposed to playing them. NOT!

MGS (LOL! MOVIE GEAR SOLID LOL!) is really only like 7 hours gameplay TOPS! I got bored half the time watching these cutscenes getting more and more ridiculous the further I got in it ESPECIALLY the ones with that IDIOT Drebin and his stupid monkey. Good thing no one tries to stop him from supplying Snake with endless weapons so he can take on the enemy I wish it was like that in REAL life war.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]1. Its Metal Gear Solid..."Movie Gear Solid" is got real old eons ago :? 2. Watch the GOTY video here at GS and fully understand why the long movies are an plus rather than a minus.thegame1980

Yea cause I enjoy WATCHING my video games as opposed to playing them. NOT!

MGS (LOL! MOVIE GEAR SOLID LOL!) is really only like 7 hours gameplay TOPS! I got bored half the time watching these cutscenes getting more and more ridiculous the further I got in it ESPECIALLY the ones with that IDIOT Drebin and his stupid monkey. Good thing no one tries to stop him from supplying Snake with endless weapons so he can take on the enemy I wish it was like that in REAL life war.

I too enjoy cutscenes. but there is a balance. a point where they go from being an asset to a burden or distraction. where you want to skip them but can't for fear of missing something important to the overall experience. bottom line: with a better script editing team, this game's cut-scenes could have delievered all of the necessary impact and message in half the time...and with twice the sense and clarity.Dreams-Visions

WOW! You nailed it right on the head. I agree with what you said. Trim the fat Kojima, the overinflatted cutscenes were a bit too much to simply explain why some mysterious black guy shows up in a tank with a cigerette smoking monkey.....WTF?..... to hand deliver you the upper hand in a war.

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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]1. Its Metal Gear Solid..."Movie Gear Solid" is got real old eons ago :? 2. Watch the GOTY video here at GS and fully understand why the long movies are an plus rather than a minus.GodofBigMacs

Yea cause I enjoy WATCHING my video games as opposed to playing them. NOT!

MGS (LOL! MOVIE GEAR SOLID LOL!) is really only like 7 hours gameplay TOPS! I got bored half the time watching these cutscenes getting more and more ridiculous the further I got in it ESPECIALLY the ones with that IDIOT Drebin and his stupid monkey. Good thing no one tries to stop him from supplying Snake with endless weapons so he can take on the enemy I wish it was like that in REAL life war.

1. Edit your post and dont insult another user because you will be suspended

2. If you dont like MGS thats fine RESPECT someone else's opinion without calling them ignorant or immature

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]1. Its Metal Gear Solid..."Movie Gear Solid" is got real old eons ago :? 2. Watch the GOTY video here at GS and fully understand why the long movies are an plus rather than a minus.dattruth4real

Think of it this way, mgs4 was mainly a lovenote too fans, it wasnt meant too pick up any new fans, although it deffinetley has, and the whole long cinematic complaint is extremely longwinded, the only overly long cinematic was the ending one, but it was a bit justified when you look at it as Kojima had too close all the open gaps in the otherwise fantastic saga.

[QUOTE="thegame1980"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]1. Its Metal Gear Solid..."Movie Gear Solid" is got real old eons ago :? 2. Watch the GOTY video here at GS and fully understand why the long movies are an plus rather than a minus.GodofBigMacs

Yea cause I enjoy WATCHING my video games as opposed to playing them. NOT!

MGS (LOL! MOVIE GEAR SOLID LOL!) is really only like 7 hours gameplay TOPS! I got bored half the time watching these cutscenes getting more and more ridiculous the further I got in it ESPECIALLY the ones with that IDIOT Drebin and his stupid monkey. Good thing no one tries to stop him from supplying Snake with endless weapons so he can take on the enemy I wish it was like that in REAL life war.

Yea who conviently show up drinking soda in a tank bearing down the streets of combat that no one pays attention to. That was not an ignorant post. YOUR'S on the other hand was complete blatnat fanboyisim and you simply could not BARE to see the game being shown for the nagging glares of falsehood it has. Hope to god if you're a MErc these arms dealers know where oyu are at all times and just HAPPEN to have the equipment you need with your new found credits.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]1. Its Metal Gear Solid..."Movie Gear Solid" is got real old eons ago :? 2. Watch the GOTY video here at GS and fully understand why the long movies are an plus rather than a minus.thegame1980

Yea cause I enjoy WATCHING my video games as opposed to playing them. NOT!

MGS (LOL! MOVIE GEAR SOLID LOL!) is really only like 7 hours gameplay TOPS! I got bored half the time watching these cutscenes getting more and more ridiculous the further I got in it ESPECIALLY the ones with that IDIOT Drebin and his stupid monkey. Good thing no one tries to stop him from supplying Snake with endless weapons so he can take on the enemy I wish it was like that in REAL life war.

As for your comments saying you wish it was more like a real war....umm...What about the B&B Corps, Liquid Ocelot, Patriots, Gekko, and Metal Gears ever gave you the impression that this game was going to be like a real war?

I must say that it's one of the best (and worst) video game experiences you'll ever have. The Graphics and Cinematics are off the chart and the story in unmatched in the VG world. However, I must have spent like 6 hours actually playing the game.. :? I will say that if you a MG fan(like me) you won't find a better experience.. but in all honesty I hope Kojima finally put this puppy to bed.

btw, anyone complaining about this game being selected for Best Graphics... you need to play this title.. This game ****s on 98% of 360 games. But I'd imagine having to install every chapter helps.

OhSnapitz

[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"][QUOTE="thegame1980"]

Yea cause I enjoy WATCHING my video games as opposed to playing them. NOT!

MGS (LOL! MOVIE GEAR SOLID LOL!) is really only like 7 hours gameplay TOPS! I got bored half the time watching these cutscenes getting more and more ridiculous the further I got in it ESPECIALLY the ones with that IDIOT Drebin and his stupid monkey. Good thing no one tries to stop him from supplying Snake with endless weapons so he can take on the enemy I wish it was like that in REAL life war.

thegame1980

Yea who conviently show up drinking soda in a tank bearing down the streets of combat that no one pays attention to. That was not an ignorant post. YOUR'S on the other hand was complete blatnat fanboyisim and you simply could not BARE to see the game being shown for the nagging glares of falsehood it has. Hope to god if you're a MErc these arms dealers know where oyu are at all times and just HAPPEN to have the equipment you need with your new found credits.

feel free to show me the part where MGS4 was supposed to %100 realistic. Do you really expect absolute realism in a game where we have cyborg ninjas, giant robots, "immortal" beings and genetically modified super soldiers? I think you went into this game very confused and expecting all the wrong things from it:?

II_Seraphim_II

Why would I hate Gears?

And for your info I DID beat MGS4 I just simply ignored Drebin since he was a useless, STUPID character which made NO sense.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]1. Its Metal Gear Solid..."Movie Gear Solid" is got real old eons ago :? 2. Watch the GOTY video here at GS and fully understand why the long movies are an plus rather than a minus.OhSnapitz

It wraps us 40 years of fictional story, WHAT U EXPECT!

otherwise people will e bugging kojima to make another mgs game

MGS5 ANSWERS OF THE PATRIOTS

*hands over einsteins brain*

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] That might have been the worse reasoning I've ever heard. Long cinematic are never a plus in video games.OhSnapitz

Think of it this way, mgs4 was mainly a lovenote too fans, it wasnt meant too pick up any new fans, although it deffinetley has, and the whole long cinematic complaint is extremely longwinded, the only overly long cinematic was the ending one, but it was a bit justified when you look at it as Kojima had too close all the open gaps in the otherwise fantastic saga.

But damn they were awesome anyway. But yeah, some of the cutscenes tested my patience just a bit.

feel free to show me the part where MGS4 was supposed to %100 realistic. Do you really expect absolute realism in a game where we have cyborg ninjas, giant robots, "immortal" beings and genetically modified super soldiers? I think you went into this game very confused and expecting all the wrong things from it:?

II_Seraphim_II

Maybe I did, but still the whole point of the other games Snake was ALONE supported simply by Codec and basic instructions not some last minute addition like Drebin to hand hold him through the mission. Besides we're getting off topic. The point is MGS4 had entirely to much watching not enough playing and the parts you played were fun but Kojima REALLY lost it no this game.

[QUOTE="dattruth4real"]funny I rememberd around 10+ hours of fun gameplay.Jigsaw9798

Or he played it like it should have been played...Like a stealth game. I'd reckon a good 8hrs for my gameplay through most of my playthroughs(7)

I agree though. Over the top acting and totally drawn out cutscenes. Totally ridiculous and I love it. One of the few games that I'll accept lengthy cutscenes. Although being honest, I wouldnt mind them cutting out some of the access scenes which are virtually repeated lines in different form.

this thing that the game is a movie starts to get very funny.And I find very difficult that you finished the game in 6 hours the first time that you played it and if is true is because you are not a fan of this series ,because having finished the game in 6 hours you did a real marathon of the game up to the finish without taking truly advantage of the game.I am a fan of this series I played the 1,2,3 and I finished MGS 4 last week and I simply loved the game is a truly epic game.I took 17 hours to finish the game without running on it and I remember that I took 9 or 10 hours to finish Gears 2, so honestly I don't understand all the hate from the 360 fanboys in this matter.

And for the long cutcenes I have nothing against good and epic cinematics in a game with a good story, as I saw in the final fantasy games for example and for me cinematics only added more quality to a game that already have very good hours of gameplay in itself, beyond games like gears 1 and 2 the game was not lost hours of gameplay because of cinematics.And if you do not like a good story in a game that was counted with excellent cinematics you can simply press the start button.And for the fanboys you have to invent better arguments to demean the game.

Movie gear solid haha , the game was great let go of this game its all the sony boys have been talking aboute since it came out , it was a great game now let it go , let see what the sonyboys will talk aboute next. The Massive ACTION game hahahahahahhaha. I love that name , even tough i dont own a ps3 i will buy that game just becouse of the Name. I will put it on my wall, The Massive ACTION game !!!ps3weee

The game isn't for everyone. It's not for people like me who just want to play the game for about half an hours and end up watching a cutscene for most of the time. But its an brilliant game for people who want a deep story and awesome cinematics.nintendoman562

I also liked how during the cutscenes you could move around the camera, like in drebins tank with the information on the comp monitors, it added immersion.

I really liked it, don't really care what any one has too say against it, It's a welcome change of pace against the gears of war attention defficit disorder crowd.

and Im glad Kojima respects his fans above all else.

please man video games are about playing the game not friggin watching it. i understand mgs is all about the story and its "INCREDIBALLY EPIC" or whatever, i never got into the series, i played mgs 1 and mgs 2 (didnt finish, had to save one night but i had to wait for a cutscene to finish first, mom wanted to watch her soaps, 20 minutes later I said **** it and never played that crap again). the game play was fun, not great at best, but it rarely ever came by, whats worse is as soon as your done a cutscene and take a few steps the stupid codec starts ringing. if your a fan, u musta loved it im sure it deserves all these "GAME" of the year awards, but honestly when I hear how ridiculously long the cutscenes are in mgs 4 i start to wonder if hideo kojima is nothing but a wannabe director who never made it and then conveyed it thru video games. I love the ps3 and Im a cow i wont lie, I hate xbots and 360 in general and the fanboys on here who actually defend that garbage. but mgs 4 is a movie before a video game. i thought about it, and i will be steering clear of the mgs franchise. I hope to god this new shooter hideo is going to develop has just as epic a story but he cuts down the lengths of them significantly. LIKE **** dude.-theCHUD-

I also liked how during the cutscenes you could move around the camera, like in drebins tank with the information on the comp monitors, it added immersion.

I really liked it, don't really care what any one has too say against it, It's a welcome change of pace against the gears of war attention defficit disorder crowd.

and Im glad Kojima respects his fans above all else.

dattruth4real

Oh, except some people aren't mature enough to handle the story, GodofBigMacs

[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"]Oh, except some people aren't mature enough to handle the story, heretrix

Sure MGS4 had some of the most brilliant and very well presented cutscenes, but I just have a feeling even the hardcore MGS fans will skip the boring parts of these hour long cutscenes. Sure MGS4 is not for everyone but I'm pretty sure even the hardcore MGS fan will not play MGS4 in it's entirety and watch all the cutscenes, if they decide to play it like the third time around. Even the ones defending these long cutscenes will not sit there and watch all of it again.one_on_one

[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"]Oh, except some people aren't mature enough to handle the story, heretrix

Agreed.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"]Oh, except some people aren't mature enough to handle the story, IIJuggaNottII

Agreed.

Completley disagree, the brilliance in the mgs4 story is its ability too mix a serious overtone with rediculous situations and still come out swimingly, if you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.

[QUOTE="one_on_one"]Sure MGS4 had some of the most brilliant and very well presented cutscenes, but I just have a feeling even the hardcore MGS fans will skip the boring parts of these hour long cutscenes. Sure MGS4 is not for everyone but I'm pretty sure even the hardcore MGS fan will not play MGS4 in it's entirety and watch all the cutscenes, if they decide to play it like the third time around. Even the ones defending these long cutscenes will not sit there and watch all of it again.Animal-Mother

Sure you're telling me if you played MGS4 right now you would watch all the cutscenes in its entirety all over again?

I haven't played MGS4 in months and have no desire to play it anytime soon but if I do play it I'm not going to watch every minute of the cutscenes when I already know what's going to happen and such, I would just watch the ones that I thought was cool.

And as a standard, if you havent played previous MGS games, you will probably dislike this one. And if you played previous MGS games, you should know by now that long cutscenes are a staple of the series.II_Seraphim_II

I've played previous Metal Gear Solid games. I loved them for their open-ended gameplay and daring story. I disliked when they got too crazy with the cutscenes, though. The end of MGS2 and the beginning of MGS3 were things I disliked because of how many cutscenes there were back to back to back. It was wearying.

MGS4 has cutscene sequences longer than anything in MGS 2 and 3 on multiple occasions. I was going into the game hoping that such a situation wouldn't occur. I was disappointed.

There are long cutscenes, and there are long cutscenes. MGS4 has some incredibly long cutscenes, without precedent anywhere in the series or in the game industry.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="one_on_one"]Sure MGS4 had some of the most brilliant and very well presented cutscenes, but I just have a feeling even the hardcore MGS fans will skip the boring parts of these hour long cutscenes. Sure MGS4 is not for everyone but I'm pretty sure even the hardcore MGS fan will not play MGS4 in it's entirety and watch all the cutscenes, if they decide to play it like the third time around. Even the ones defending these long cutscenes will not sit there and watch all of it again.one_on_one

Sure you're telling me if you played MGS4 right now you would watch all the cutscenes in its entirety all over again?

I haven't played MGS4 in months and have no desire to play it anytime soon but if I do play it I'm not going to watch every minute of the cutscenes when I already know what's going to happen and such, I would just watch the ones that I thought was cool.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"]Oh, except some people aren't mature enough to handle the story, Animal-Mother

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] somebody hasnt played MGS4Animal-Mother

Sure you're telling me if you played MGS4 right now you would watch all the cutscenes in its entirety all over again?

I haven't played MGS4 in months and have no desire to play it anytime soon but if I do play it I'm not going to watch every minute of the cutscenes when I already know what's going to happen and such, I would just watch the ones that I thought was cool.

Yes because they're not hours long and I would watch it everytime even if I played it 3 times already, I can't say the same for MGS4. You said it yourself, you played and watch all of the cutscenes and you have no desire to do it again and that was my point. Like I said I'll only watch the cool memorable cutscenes and skip the rest. These cutscenes were just over done, you could skip some of them and it would still have a good story.