Just played SOCOM, how can anyone think PSN is better than Live?

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#101 bizzy420
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[QUOTE="ULTIMATEZWARRIO"]lol, i do not solely support 360 or PS3, but just to let you know, that is an occurrrin problem with the new Socom release, it is not the PSN's fault it is Slant Six's fault, let us not forget that GTAIV had its own problems when it was released, and just like the GTAIV problem, not everyone experiences itmephisto_11

but gta4 worked fine on the 360 from day 1 for everyone. what else could be the problem other than psn?

actually i had problems with gta4 and rv6 the first few days it came out. i think this is more of a socom problem than a psn problem....ANYWAYS, YES XBL is still better than psn though.

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#102 Wave360
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So because one game sucks you say PSN is much worse than XBL...

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#103 GodLovesDead
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I have XBL and PSN. They both suck. On XBL I've never gotten GH3 to work online. Soul Calibur 3 online was a nightmare. Call of Duty 4 doesn't even let me choose what servers I wish to join. PSN feels a bit glitchy but when it works, it's just as good as XBL.
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#104 superjim42
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socom severs has nothing to do with PSN :roll:

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#105 VendettaRed07
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has anyone else been having problems? ive been playing all day and its been working perfectly
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#106 W1NGMAN-
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Just finished playing an hour and a half worth of Socom, and guess what 0 problems...you're kind of late to the hate party, since all the problems were during the first two days.
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#107 Floppy_Jim
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PSN has always worked fine for me, no major problems. Sometimes I can't get into Warhawk because of a "Servers Not Responding" error message but aside from that, it's all good.
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#108 All_that_is_Man
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No one says its better than live...and most those issues have nothing to do with psn

Thats like me getting left 4 dead on the twentieth of november and be like MAN I have to download the NXE just to play the game then update the game itself.......

Its just general updates what the system has to do.

and PSN and XBL are both PEER to PEER so ...lag and all that is really on you and the host

PSN is catching up but is still behind XBL in features...but hey its free and thats why I prefer it

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#109 W1NGMAN-
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So because one game sucks you say PSN is much worse than XBL...

Wave360

The game doesn't suck, the servers were overloaded in the first two days....but things are running smooth now.

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#110 supersaiyen
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Socom games always had that problem it has zero to do with psn. Thats stupid programming for you zipper sucks at network patches you could say. Noobs these days will say anything to start a flame war. Nice try but you fail!!!!!
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#111 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="micky4889"]

socom servers /=/ psn

cakeorrdeath

True.

Which is exactly why Live is superior, with PSN the experience varies from game to game. You never know what its going to be like. Live is a unified service so you enjoy the same features and functionality with every single title.

But at the same time that can backfire, just a month ago XBL was having troubles and it didn't matter what game you tired to play you experienced these problems.

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#112 mbrockway
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[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"][QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

PSN is what happens when you don't have an online game plan, and you shoehorn online into your system at the last minute just to add it as a feature bullet point on the back of the box.

XBL was integrated into the system's OS since the first Xbox. MS knew online would be a major way of playing games and so the 360 is designed around it. The PS3 was designed around a Blu-Ray player.

-DrRobotnik-

I'm pretty sure that when PS3 was announced, they had planned to make an online network for it. Link to prove otherwise?

Yeah, but before the PS3 was released did they have a plan for in-game XMB, trophies, life with playstation etc? Hell no, theyre things they saw in the 360, Wii that were successful and said lets do a version of that! And thats how we have PSN, which is basically just a merge of numerous applications.

The TGS '05 PS3 had in game XMB and music. It also had 1gb of ram. WTH happened to that?

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#113 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]omg I went to my local tech store the other day and saw X360 demo with RRoD
all X360s have this problem. fact.
VendettaRed07

my launch system still works



yeah right, so ur sayin that just cause this problem showed up once its not a fact it will happen everytime?
that crazy talk!
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#114 VendettaRed07
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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]omg I went to my local tech store the other day and saw X360 demo with RRoD
all X360s have this problem. fact.
Rhubarb9

my launch system still works



yeah right, so ur sayin that just cause this problem showed up once its not a fact it will happen everytime?
that crazy talk!

no im serious...my friend got one 5 months after launch and it still works. my cousin got one 6 months ago and it has had no problems. Im just saying

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#115 EVOLV3
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Installs, data corruption etc. Have nothing to do with the PSN.
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#116 GreyFoXX4
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So whats the issue with Gears online play after 2 years in? XBL?

If xbl is so much the online service from god then how does Host advantage come into play in Gears? How does xbl go down for about 2 weeks. Why is FrontLines so laggy?

I know for a fact that I can play 20vs20 on WarHawk right now with NO issues, I play Cod4 with no issues, I can play R2 beta 30vs30 with NO issues, I've played countless games on the ps3 with NO issues. The only 2 games so far out of my experience with the ps3 that has had issues was RB6v2 and now Socom. RB6v2 was fixed within a week or 2 and as of yesterday I played Socom with NO issues at all for 3 1/2 hours, and what is wrong there is getting better by the minute. I currently have 17 ps3 hard disk games aswell as about 5 or 6 psn downloadable games so those 2 experiences hasn't hurt my feelings about psn after playing on the pc for so long living with lag. To this day lag is really non existent compared to when I was gaming on the pc so psn is definitly a great online service to game with.

And also right now on the Socom servers there is a huge amount servers showing 256/256 players, so it is easy to see that those servers are getting stressed. I was one from the beta that wasn't going to get the game but I chose to and was pleasantly surprised about how well it was running now if that says anything.

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#117 Lightning-XIII
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yes psn is frustrating
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#118 SpinoRaptor
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I played MGO and it was so laggy that I couldn't play it anymore.
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#119 strudel420
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I considered making a thread similar to this one earlier this afternoon. Took forever to get going after all of the updates and intalls. Game itself? Awesome.
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#120 -Sniper99-
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XBL is superior to PSN, but this doesn't have anything to do with PSN. Remember how bad CoD 4 servers where when it first came out?
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#121 Phazevariance
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PSN is equal in service to XBL only to PS3 fanboys who don't have a clue how smooth & feature rich XBL is.WillieBeamish

This is true. They read about features and think its the same, but if they were to actually sit for a week and really try it out, they would find its pretty stable and smoooooth and fast.

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#122 Inger1
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Only really bad lemmings or those who haven't actually experienced PSN say PSN is "absolute crap" or "completely worthless".

I think most people(and only the really bad cows will say otherwise) agree that live>psn. Live has more features, is smoother and is in general a better playing experience. That being said, PSN is NOT the flaming pile of garbage this thread and many other lemmings make it out to be. Sure its got some connectivity issues at certain times and it doesn't have all the features of live but that doesn't change the fact it gets the job done.

Lots of people point out that games like warhawk or GTAIV had problems when they were first released, that doesn't change the fact that those problems were resolved and now that games play fine. I just finished a game of warhawk a couple of hours ago without any problems.

To sum it all up, live>psn, no one should deny that or try to. But it really ticks me off when some ppl say PSN is a pile of crap... because its not. It works for me, I can play online when I want to. Sometimes there are problems, but they've always been resolved quickly. Would I like PSN to be as good as live? Of course! but that doesn't change the fact PSN is far from the crap lots of lemmings make it out to be.

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#123 All_that_is_Man
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[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]PSN is equal in service to XBL only to PS3 fanboys who don't have a clue how smooth & feature rich XBL is.Phazevariance

This is true. They read about features and think its the same, but if they were to actually sit for a week and really try it out, they would find its pretty stable and smoooooth and fast.

Both are the same in stable smooth and fast........They are peer to peer ......they run off the host of the game buddy....nothing special about xbl except Cross game chat and invites....

Cross game chat is the winner their thats why xbl is superior

I actually have more problems with xbl than psn.....everytime their is a update on xbl for like 3 days it will be buggy no matter what game you play

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#124 Albanian_Killa
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]PSN is equal in service to XBL only to PS3 fanboys who don't have a clue how smooth & feature rich XBL is.All_that_is_Man

This is true. They read about features and think its the same, but if they were to actually sit for a week and really try it out, they would find its pretty stable and smoooooth and fast.

Both are the same in stable smooth and fast........They are peer to peer ......they run off the host of the game buddy....nothing special about xbl except Cross game chat and invites....

Cross game chat is the winner their thats why xbl is superior

I actually have more problems with xbl than psn.....everytime their is a update on xbl for like 3 days it will be buggy no matter what game you play

Actually, SOCOM servers are all dedicated. Seth Luisi, Director of SOCOM confirmed it in the private beta when he played with the testers. If the host leaves, there is no "finding new host" or anything like that, nothing happens. When a server is created, it is run off of the Slant Six servers.

What happened on the first day of SOCOM had nothing to do with PSN. PSN has seperate servers for games, and other service features. The game servers for SOCOM were being overloaded because of the amount of people trying to get on at once. Common. Call of Duty 4 had this, followed by a "Downloading Game Data" glitch for months and months. Grand Theft Auto IV had this for both consoles also, where the online would lag a lot, or where Rockstar had to close the servers for a period of time. Halo 3 required XBL to to a maintenance (something like that from what I remember). To sum it up, I just got off SOCOM. It's running smooth right now. The server overloads have been fixed. It was just one day. It had nothing to do with PSN. Both XBL and PSN suffer from this.

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#125 All_that_is_Man
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Yeah a few games are Ran on dedicated servers, its up to the developer

But most games are Peer to peer

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#126 masiisam
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]PSN is equal in service to XBL only to PS3 fanboys who don't have a clue how smooth & feature rich XBL is.All_that_is_Man

This is true. They read about features and think its the same, but if they were to actually sit for a week and really try it out, they would find its pretty stable and smoooooth and fast.

Both are the same in stable smooth and fast........They are peer to peer ......they run off the host of the game buddy....nothing special about xbl except Cross game chat and invites....

Cross game chat is the winner their thats why xbl is superior

I actually have more problems with xbl than psn.....everytime their is a update on xbl for like 3 days it will be buggy no matter what game you play

Your comment shows you have not sat down with LIVE for a week...If you did... you would understand he was not talking about LAG....I will let you ponder that for a bit

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#127 All_that_is_Man
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[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"][QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]PSN is equal in service to XBL only to PS3 fanboys who don't have a clue how smooth & feature rich XBL is.masiisam

This is true. They read about features and think its the same, but if they were to actually sit for a week and really try it out, they would find its pretty stable and smoooooth and fast.

Both are the same in stable smooth and fast........They are peer to peer ......they run off the host of the game buddy....nothing special about xbl except Cross game chat and invites....

Cross game chat is the winner their thats why xbl is superior

I actually have more problems with xbl than psn.....everytime their is a update on xbl for like 3 days it will be buggy no matter what game you play

Your comment shows you have not sat down with LIVE for a week...If you did... you would understand he was not talking about LAG....I will let you ponder that for a bit

Sure I haven't buddy

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#128 ANeuralPathway
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IMO people that try and justify paying for what Live offers~people who try and justify "buying" their games by bittorrent.
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#129 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"][QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]PSN is equal in service to XBL only to PS3 fanboys who don't have a clue how smooth & feature rich XBL is.All_that_is_Man

This is true. They read about features and think its the same, but if they were to actually sit for a week and really try it out, they would find its pretty stable and smoooooth and fast.

Both are the same in stable smooth and fast........They are peer to peer ......they run off the host of the game buddy....nothing special about xbl except Cross game chat and invites....

Cross game chat is the winner their thats why xbl is superior

I actually have more problems with xbl than psn.....everytime their is a update on xbl for like 3 days it will be buggy no matter what game you play

Your comment shows you have not sat down with LIVE for a week...If you did... you would understand he was not talking about LAG....I will let you ponder that for a bit

Sure I haven't buddy

Ok "buddy"...

I don't know what is funnier....

A) You taking the time to write your name on a piece of paper.......DL it from your camera......then to Gamespot..

Or

B).....

Ahhh forget it.... A) was pretty freaking funny....."Buddy"

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#130 All_that_is_Man
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Yeah the 3 minutes it took me to do that.....Im really gonna miss those times......

Because you have no defense you have to criticize pointless things because your a blind 360 fanboy what has never tried psn for himself

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#131 wiiwillwiiwill
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well. psn is free, so you have to bear those flaws.

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#132 xXMcClaneXx
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while i will agree that socom is having a bit of problems.....i have to say im VERY surprised by how much i like this game...it's lots of fun ...and actually has some really great options
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#133 masiisam
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Yeah the 3 minutes it took me to do that.....Im really gonna miss those times......

Because you have no defense you have to criticize pointless things because your a blind 360 fanboy what has never tried psn for himself

All_that_is_Man

...take 30 seconds or 10 years I don't care.....still funny you took the time to do it....:lol:

PSN: Masi22isaM

There yea go buddy..

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#134 njean777
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yeah blame a game that is multiplayer only for the psn sucking. Thats retarded same thing happened to warhawk. They have to sort out the servers its like a mmorpg the launches always are glitchy so just wait a week or 2 before trying to play it.
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#135 All_that_is_Man
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Having a playstation3 or a psn account doesn't mean your not a fanboy, hell having a psn doesn't even mean you own a ps3....My friend has a psn and he's never owned a ps3.....
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#136 C4_yourself
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PSN is equal in service to XBL only to PS3 fanboys who don't have a clue how smooth & feature rich XBL is.WillieBeamish
Exactly

Cows are simply jealous

and are use to an inferior piece of crap like psn

cows simply love low quality products

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#137 masiisam
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Having a playstation3 or a psn account doesn't mean your not a fanboy, hell having a psn doesn't even mean you own a ps3....My friend has a psn and he's never owned a ps3.....All_that_is_Man

Whatever makes yea sleep better at night..I am not going to be a tool and take a pic of my PS3....;)

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#138 njean777
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[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]PSN is equal in service to XBL only to PS3 fanboys who don't have a clue how smooth & feature rich XBL is.C4_yourself

Exactly

Cows are simply jealous

and are use to an inferior piece of crap like psn

cows simply love low quality products

I have both they both are fine i prefer psn due to price and im not cheap i just refuse to pay to play

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#139 Zoso-8
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For a free service, PSN is awesome quality. For a paid service, Live is decent quality. /thread
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#140 mbrockway
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I will not pay to game online. Just the principle of it, I'm not padding MS's coffers just so I can have the honor of hosting a dang CoD4 match using my own connection.
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#141 ULTIMATEZWARRIO
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is this really still going on?...sighhhh
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#142 loudharley
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I dont think ive ever enjoyed playing a game online on my ps3.Getting mgs4 ready to play online was an unbelievable pain with all the crap they make u do first.Voice chat sucks on the ps3 also.Xboxlive really is a better service and anyone that says other wise has never used the service or does not want to admit it that its good.Sure live has a problem here and there but in all honesty its very rare from were im sitting.I played about all the socom i wanted to when i had the beta a few weeks ago.That game really wasnt all that good in my opinion.
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#143 njean777
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I dont think ive ever enjoyed playing a game online on my ps3.Getting mgs4 ready to play online was an unbelievable pain with all the crap they make u do first.Voice chat sucks on the ps3 also.Xboxlive really is a better service and anyone that says other wise has never used the service or does not want to admit it that its good.Sure live has a problem here and there but in all honesty its very rare from were im sitting.I played about all the socom i wanted to when i had the beta a few weeks ago.That game really wasnt all that good in my opinion.loudharley

how can you say MGS4 is the only game you played online and still say psn sucks im sorry but MGS4 didnt even use psn because konami said no and socom on the other hand needs time to rustle out the bugs on the server. Play the Resistance beta or Cod4 or Warhawk, SC4, Burnout any other game online and you will see its the same as live

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#144 X360PS3AMD05
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Could have been the server getting hit hard, your internet connection or other things :?
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#145 SpinoRaptor
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is this really still going on?...sighhhhULTIMATEZWARRIO

Let the fanboys argue.

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#146 tccavey2
Member since 2007 • 1559 Posts

xbox>>>>Psn no doubt

My roommate just got a PS3 and PSN is so sloppy compared to XBL

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#147 All_that_is_Man
Member since 2008 • 2044 Posts

xbox>>>>Psn no doubt

My roommate just got a PS3 and PSN is so sloppy compared to XBL

tccavey2

Bull crap...I own both and they are both nice....and sloppy? PSN is more organized than xbl

xbl is superior from cross game chat, thats about it

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#148 njean777
Member since 2007 • 3807 Posts
[QUOTE="tccavey2"]

xbox>>>>Psn no doubt

My roommate just got a PS3 and PSN is so sloppy compared to XBL

All_that_is_Man

Bull crap...I own both and they are both nice....and sloppy? PSN is more organized than xbl

xbl is superior from cross game chat, thats about it

QFT

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#149 channtheman1
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#150 ChupacabraIII
Member since 2005 • 5314 Posts

Seriously, it totally boggles my mind how anyone who has played on XBL can think PSN is on par or in any way exceeds XBL as a service. Playing SOCOM was a nightmare. I popped it in, had to install it to my hard drive. Fine, whatever. System restarts

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I stopped reading there