Kamiya: “Those s&%*s at MS… are they f$^%ing with me…?”

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#151 Shewgenja
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

Guarantee Shewgenja would not have bought Scalebound, and if Scalebound did come out and scored say.. a 6/10.. he would be the first one to jump on the Xbox/scalebound bash train.

It's absolutely hilarious watching cows act like they care.

Hell, find threads discussing games about the XBONES future, countless cows calling scalebound a flop and talking shit about it.

If that's all you got, I actually feel sortof sad for you.

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#153 Shewgenja
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@Shewgenja: thats a nice rose tinted view on the world of gaming

. I for one am glad sony pays for any old shite aswell as the big bitters like uncharted, choice is a good thing.

Thankyou to sony for feeding the homeless...and greenlighting everything......lol

you act like sony has never cancelled a game or closed a studio before.....

But you are so wrong!

Of course games get cancelled. Studios get closed. Simba's dad dies. . . It's the circle of life. But if you don't got shit, then you need to show some dedication to your fanbase and your gamers and make some shit. You can try to rub this with Sony's stank all you like and it's awfully cute watching you try because that is a clear mark of desperation that fools exactly no one.

No, this is a problem with XBox and certain sections of its fanbase that goes far beyond the cancellation of one game. You guys are not challenging Microsoft at all. So much so, forget about me for a moment, your own goddamn CEO hit twitter and told you a game cancellation was a good thing. That is the level of rube they treat you like. You don't have enough games in your "XBox exclusive" lineup to really bother me at this point. Scalebound dead and gone? That's a horrible thing for many XBox owners but apparently, it's good for some of you die-hards.

One day, it will dawn on you, though. It's not Sony's house that is on fire. Hell, Nintendo is in a better spot than XBox is if not for the sake of the 3DS and soon the Switch. Pokemon games drop and it rains money for them. What do you have? What did you have five years ago? ...ten years ago? THAT is a list that is shrinking. I have news for you. I'm not even your problem. You are your problem. As long as you rubber stamp every Phantom Dust, Fable Legends, Scalebound, as well as let tried and trues like Halo or Gears of War turn into a pale shadow of their former selves it's nothing but giggles and Schnapps for me bro.

You pray that this was a Sony fanboy problem. God, you are reaching for that brush or any other brush to paint this with, but that's why nothing has really changed. Phil took control, took credit for doing the painfully obvious, and you bought a multiplatbox on cruise control ever since. Sorry to be the messenger, but you have a 100 million dollar controller and a two-bit console with dick for exclusives. The day will come, soon, when I won't even be bothered to argue with ya'll any more. It's clear to all of us. You want nothing, you will get nothing, and you'll be the happiest little idiot in the village for all the trouble.

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#154 FLOPPAGE_50
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@Shewgenja: feel how you want, you cows always have an agenda.

Maybe your an exception, but you are a cow with a track record so I'm lumping you with the rest of those punks

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#155 Shewgenja
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

@Shewgenja: feel how you want, you cows always have an agenda.

Maybe your an exception, but you are a cow with a track record so I'm lumping you with the rest of those punks

I tell you what. That's cool. I'll take that at face value, but I do argue with this. If I was what you say I am, okay, then why would I be essentially giving Lems tips on how they can make things better for themselves? If I was the Joker and just wanted to see the world burn. . . Why would I point at what happened to the PS3 ten years ago and say you have a chance to change your fate just like they did?

If you have an answer for that and it's somewhere along the lines of "I see your plan, now, you want XBox to go bankrupt by funding a lot more games." then I will live with that. I will laugh, but I will live with it.

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#156 Pedro
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

@Shewgenja: feel how you want, you cows always have an agenda.

Maybe your an exception, but you are a cow with a track record so I'm lumping you with the rest of those punks

LMAO. He is not.

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#157  Edited By Shewgenja
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@Pedro said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

@Shewgenja: feel how you want, you cows always have an agenda.

Maybe your an exception, but you are a cow with a track record so I'm lumping you with the rest of those punks

LMAO. He is not.

Maybe you can answer the above question then. What's my vast conspiracy, oh gateway of divine wisdom and knower of secrets?

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#158 Pedro
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@Shewgenja said:

Maybe you can answer the above question then. What's my vast conspiracy, oh gateway of divine wisdom and knower of secrets?

No. Its nothing to do with a conspiracy. Its the elaborate bullshit posting/threads. Kind of what you have displayed here. You are the mirror image of Dynamitecop.

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#159  Edited By tormentos
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@sts106mat said:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-11-scalebound-director-kamiya-sorry-games-cancellation-let-fans-down

The guy is apologising for letting fans down. It appears it is the devs own fault and that to be honest, it looks like they were taking piss and not delivering on their agreement with MS. They missed a critical milestone and were i believe asking for more cash / time, all the while it seems working on another project.

In what part it say IT was my FAULT or OUR TEAM fault.

Oh please lets ignore sources claiming MS at fault and claiming MS stopped paying,much like they did with indies last gen and much like they wanted Darkside to made Phantom Dust with just 5 million dollars,when that was the game original budget when it was online only,before MS wanted a single player and started to make damns and change on daily basis..

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#160 Shewgenja
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@Pedro said:
@Shewgenja said:

Maybe you can answer the above question then. What's my vast conspiracy, oh gateway of divine wisdom and knower of secrets?

No. Its nothing to do with a conspiracy. Its the elaborate bullshit posting/threads. Kind of what you have displayed here. You are the mirror image of Dynamitecop.

If I ever become as predictable as DynamiteCop, I will remove myself lol

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#161 FLOPPAGE_50
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Well, the real story is out, basically PG missed MULTIPLE deadlines.

On top of this they apparently forced senior developers off of Scalebound in late 2016, after the game had already been delayed. Apparently when this happened it was the nail in the coffin for the game. They apparently missed major deadlines that Microsoft had set in order to get the game back on track to the point where Microsoft stopped funding the project and finally cancelled it. From the same sources the game was also still having major performance issues.

People are pushing the idea that Microsoft took this lightly, Microsoft had the most to lose with their decision. They bought the IP, funded the project, paid to advertise, gave it two E3 demonstrations, delayed it and gave them more time to work on it and now that it's cancelled they spent all that money and have nothing as a result.

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#162  Edited By Shewgenja
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

Well, the real story is out, basically PG missed MULTIPLE deadlines.

On top of this they apparently forced senior developers off of Scalebound in late 2016, after the game had already been delayed. Apparently when this happened it was the nail in the coffin for the game. They apparently missed major deadlines that Microsoft had set in order to get the game back on track to the point where Microsoft stopped funding the project and finally cancelled it. From the same sources the game was also still having major performance issues.

People are pushing the idea that Microsoft took this lightly, Microsoft had the most to lose with their decision. They bought the IP, funded the project, paid to advertise, gave it two E3 demonstrations, delayed it and gave them more time to work on it and now that it's cancelled they spent all that money and have nothing as a result.

The Last Guardian is awesome. Have you played it, yet?

You'd think the publisher had infinite money to make games happen or something. What's Xbox about these days?

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#163 oflow
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@ConanTheStoner: the thing that everyone is overlooking here is the fact that MS is so far behind that the higher ups aren't going to greenlight random projects.

All these fake crocodile tear crying cows around here seem to forget the reason the PS4 launched with no major new exclusives and had none for the first two years was because of Sony's position in the game at the time. Sony was in pretty dire straights before the PS4 launched and they intentionally launched the console with marketing multiplats as first party games because their people didn't want to spend money on potential AAA flops losing big.

Fast forward to the present where they sold 58 million consoles and everything's peachy and sure they can greenlight everything.

Xbox is now in the position Sony was at the beginning of the gen. They barely clawed back to respectability and releasing a shit game is probably not in the cards for the people calling shots.

Seriously look at how cows around here trash good MS games, if this game released and got a 5 like DriveClub or The Order, the cows would ride it to moo nirvana. I'm pretty sure the Xbox people look at things like that too.

My opinion is they need to go back to Live Aracade style releases. But I think their real direction is going to be turning Scorpio into a Steambox and riding 4K hype with Forza 7.

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#164 Shewgenja
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@oflow said:

@ConanTheStoner: the thing that everyone is overlooking here is the fact that MS is so far behind that the higher ups aren't going to greenlight random projects.

All these fake crocodile tear crying cows around here seem to forget the reason the PS4 launched with no major new exclusives and had none for the first two years was because of Sony's position in the game at the time. Sony was in pretty dire straights before the PS4 launched and they intentionally launched the console with marketing multiplats as first party games because their people didn't want to spend money on potential AAA flops losing big.

Fast forward to the present where they sold 58 million consoles and everything's peachy and sure they can greenlight everything.

Xbox is now in the position Sony was at the beginning of the gen. They barely clawed back to respectability and releasing a shit game is probably not in the cards for the people calling shots.

Seriously look at how cows around here trash good MS games, if this game released and got a 5 like DriveClub or The Order, the cows would ride it to moo nirvana. I'm pretty sure the Xbox people look at things like that too.

My opinion is they need to go back to Live Aracade style releases. But I think their real direction is going to be turning Scorpio into a Steambox and riding 4K hype with Forza 7.

Please understand, HigherUpBone isn't for games, cancellations are good. Beatings will continue until morale improves. It's a good thing the "Higher Ups" let Master Chief Collection out of the gate half working, though. It's what's good for gamers.

HigherUpBone, it's by the gamers and for the gamers. . . and you will LIKE IT goddamnit!

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#165 jg4xchamp
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@sts106mat said:
@ConanTheStoner said:

That is a bit of a stretch, those articles would have lead me to neither conclusion.

A guy apologizing to his loyal fanbase about not being able to deliver on the game they want for whatever reason is kind of an obvious thing to do. No mater the circumstance. Personally, I've apologized many times for things that were out of my control and absolutely not my fault lol. You can apologize about a shitty situation without necessarily apologizing for your own actions.

But the second part is reaching hard. These guys are game designers. They always have a multitude of ideas for their next big project. Of course he's already brainstorming his next game, if not already in the early design phase. This literally describes every designer in the industry lol.

I dont think its a stretch.

It's a pretty massive stretch. It's basic pr. Just because you want to shit on your former employer, doesn't necessarily mean you should. Because Platinum still does contract jobs, if they start bad mouthing Microsoft, that might make other publishers think twice on that front. So he wasn't going to suddenly be like "well they cancelled my game, **** those guys amirite?"


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@tormentos said:
@sts106mat said:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-11-scalebound-director-kamiya-sorry-games-cancellation-let-fans-down

The guy is apologising for letting fans down. It appears it is the devs own fault and that to be honest, it looks like they were taking piss and not delivering on their agreement with MS. They missed a critical milestone and were i believe asking for more cash / time, all the while it seems working on another project.

In what part it say IT was my FAULT or OUR TEAM fault.

Oh please lets ignore sources claiming MS at fault and claiming MS stopped paying,much like they did with indies last gen and much like they wanted Darkside to made Phantom Dust with just 5 million dollars,when that was the game original budget when it was online only,before MS wanted a single player and started to make damns and change on daily basis..

You should just stay out of this conversation El Tormented. Nobody and I mean nobody cares what you have to say on the topic. You know as much as anyone else in this thread except you're extremely biased and stupid.