Kaz hirai: no more cheap prices, expect no compromises

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#1 ionusX
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according to kaz hirai himself SONY will no longer be trying to cheap out on anything. he said very clearly that SONY's market will be those with fat wallets and the mind required to spend it. what this means for us: expect impractical gimmicks in products and possibly even higher than anticipated prices for their yet to be products.

oh kaz also beleives that 4k resolution monitors wont really catch on until about 10yrs down the line.

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/30160-sony-will-come-back-from-the-dead

but it will save them from death he claims.. poor kaz dilusional till the end.

while he doesnt outright say it expect a high price tag for the ps4 @ launch as this basically means death to 299.99 or even 349.99

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#2 quickposter
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LMAO Kaz is trying to kill them:lol:

If you don't enter a price war you will be in exactly the same situation you were before. You got lucky putting a £425 price tag on PS3 but you seriously think people will pay it in a recession? Your out of your mind!

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#3 Heil68
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Dont care if the PS4 is $1000, day 1.
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#4 SuperFlakeman
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Xbox future it is.

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#5 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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tsk tsk

If true I guess I'll go full PC next gen

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#6 EPaul
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After reading the article, it doesn't seem to be very professional

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#7 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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That's bad.
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#8 Malta_1980
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Ohh so according to him, Sony's products have been selling for cheap till now ?????

I wonder what the term expensive means for Mr Hirai:shock:

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#9 Sushiglutton
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while he doesnt outright say it expect a high price tag for the ps4 @ launch as this basically means death to 299.99 or even 349.99

ionusX

Why would they charge $350 for a machine that is 5-10 more powerful than wii-u :lol: ? Also $350 for something that will last for 10 years is dirt cheap. It's like $3/month. Even $700 would be very cheap, but then a lot of people would whine like mad (ps3 costed like $900 when it laucnched in Sweden).

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#10 inggrish
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While I can appreciate the quality and build quality of SONY products, and thus also the value behind them, I know that I am in the minority here, and that this is a dangerous thing (especially considering SONY's current financial status) to say and live by.

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#11 Tony-Baxter
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I recall the days when Sony use to push the envelope NOT their luck.
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#12 locopatho
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I've no problem paying for quality. It has to be ACTUAL quality tho, not gimmicky stuff. If they hype up the PS4 with 3D and motion controls and Vita connectivity and all that crap I won't be bothered.
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#13 SuperFlakeman
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While I can appreciate the quality and build quality of SONY products, and thus also the value behind them, I know that I am in the minority here, and that this is a dangerous thing (especially considering SONY's current financial status) to say and live by.

_Matt_

At least they didn't pick option 3 -- putting out a beast but taking massive losses to keep prices down to remain competitive. That would be even worse

What they can do is release a slow burner that pleases media / message boards which will slowly decrease in price over time as with PS3. It will be expensive, but not being sold at losses, thus it'll be relatively niche product.

Third option is to release hardware that makes the gaming community riot, but this way they can remain competitive at a good pricepoint,

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Sony, you are not Apple. You cannot get away with charging top dollar.

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#15 fueled-system
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Kaz is determined to see Sony go under. Sony needs a change and the first change they need is to get rid of this man.
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#16 Chicken453
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I love you Kazu san!
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#18 inggrish
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Sony, you are not Apple. You cannot get away with charging top dollar.

GreySeal9

The difference is, is that Sony at least has value in their products, Apple just overcharge and charge a stupidly high amount for the hell of it

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#20 inggrish
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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]Kaz is determined to see Sony go under. Sony needs a change and the first change they need is to get rid of this man.fueled-system

The difference is though, is that Sony actually has value for it's prices, Apple just overcharges and charges expensive prices for the hell of it!

Please explain to me where I mentioned Apple? Please do.

Sorry my mistake, I quoted the wrong comment, I deleted and quoted the right one after! Apologies sir!


Edit: btw you were very quick off the mark, I noticed my mistake within 20 seconds of publishing the comment and deleted at that point! haha

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#21 inggrish
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[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

While I can appreciate the quality and build quality of SONY products, and thus also the value behind them, I know that I am in the minority here, and that this is a dangerous thing (especially considering SONY's current financial status) to say and live by.

SuperFlakeman

At least they didn't pick option 3 -- putting out a beast but taking massive losses to keep prices down to remain competitive. That would be even worse

What they can do is release a slow burner that pleases media / message boards which will slowly decrease in price over time as with PS3. It will be expensive, but not being sold at losses, thus it'll be relatively niche product.

Third option is to release hardware that makes the gaming community riot, but this way they can remain competitive at a good pricepoint,

Valid point, but who knows what Sony will do xD

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#22 Basinboy
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Good luck, Kaz. Turning the PS3 around from its poor start once Kutaragi was dismissed was impressive, but fixing Sony is going to take years of changes to fix what it has been doing wrong.

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#23 Zaibach
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Misleading title aside,

Do you just mine the net for things to post about in GS, TC ?

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#24 PinnacleGamingP
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great news!! hes basically saying the prices will be fair! and setting us up for a big surprise in new pricing awesome thanks kaz you really do care about the consumer while at the same time keeping pepperneck lemmings off SEN
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#25 James161324
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Clearly loosing a billion dollars and nearly going out of business isn't an lessson. Sony you don't have mindless zombies like apple does. PS4 flop confirmed

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#26 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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"Hirai said Sony will target customers willing to pay more and won't get sucked into a price war with cheap and cheerful Chinese players." Not exactly what the OP says ....
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#27 nameless12345
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Cool, looks like they want to shoot themselves in the foot...

PS1 sold well also because it was cheaper than Sega Saturn (alongside better-looking 3D games - 2D games looked better on the Saturn btw) and the PS2 because it was the cheapest DVD player on the market at the time. (besides being hyped as the 2nd comming, which is what essentially killed-off the Dreamcast despite it being competitive in both, games and graphics)

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#28 PinnacleGamingP
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thread needs to be locked, blue_hazy_basic confirmed the quote OP is wrong and misleading
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#29 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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It's the smartest thing they can do, if this really happened... The one thing Sony has at their best over most others is quality. If quality won't save them, nothing will.

I'll pay a premium price for quality.

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#30 TheEroica  Moderator
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Sweet jesus, please tell me those comments are taken out of context. Id love to see a dogfight next gen of pricepoints, games and services.... if kaz pushes for another $600 dead on arrival console, they should shiit can him.
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#31 TheEroica  Moderator
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"Hirai said Sony will target customers willing to pay more and won't get sucked into a price war with cheap and cheerful Chinese players." Not exactly what the OP says ....blue_hazy_basic
Ok poof! Makes more sense....
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#32 freedomfreak
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"Hirai said Sony will target customers willing to pay more and won't get sucked into a price war with cheap and cheerful Chinese players." Not exactly what the OP says ....blue_hazy_basic
ionus thread. Figures.
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#33 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]"Hirai said Sony will target customers willing to pay more and won't get sucked into a price war with cheap and cheerful Chinese players." Not exactly what the OP says ....freedomfreak
ionus thread. Figures.

Well, we can close this thread.

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#34 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]"Hirai said Sony will target customers willing to pay more and won't get sucked into a price war with cheap and cheerful Chinese players." Not exactly what the OP says ....Sagem28

ionus thread. Figures.

Well, we can close this thread.

It will stay open and there will be discussion based on something that wasn't even said. Crazy how that actually happens from time to time.
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#35 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Sagem28"]

ionus thread. Figures.freedomfreak

Well, we can close this thread.

It will stay open and there will be discussion based on something that wasn't even said. Crazy how that actually happens from time to time.

wouldnt you rather discuss in the lounge though...
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#36 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] ionus thread. Figures.freedomfreak

Well, we can close this thread.

It will stay open and there will be discussion based on something that wasn't even said. Crazy how that actually happens from time to time.

Not surprising since most people don't even bother reading the articles :P

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#37 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Well, we can close this thread.

Sagem28

It will stay open and there will be discussion based on something that wasn't even said. Crazy how that actually happens from time to time.

Not surprising since most people don't even bother reading the articles :P

Guilty as charged.
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#38 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Well, we can close this thread.

It will stay open and there will be discussion based on something that wasn't even said. Crazy how that actually happens from time to time.

wouldnt you rather discuss in the lounge though...

Discuss what?
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#39 Fizzman
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Bad move. Sony no longer has the brand name where people are willing to pay a premium price for a Sony product.
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"Hirai said Sony will target customers willing to pay more and won't get sucked into a price war with cheap and cheerful Chineseplayers"

...........Say what? Chinese? CHINESE? Was there a some change in Nintendo's and Microsoft's management that I missed?

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#41 super600  Moderator
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So sony is trying to target rich businessmen.

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[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] It will stay open and there will be discussion based on something that wasn't even said. Crazy how that actually happens from time to time.freedomfreak
wouldnt you rather discuss in the lounge though...

Discuss what?

economics....
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#43 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] wouldnt you rather discuss in the lounge though...PinnacleGamingP
Discuss what?

economics....

No thanks!
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#44 PinnacleGamingP
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Goodbye sony.

super600
nice troll troll just a little bit harder next time you know what they say, you cant succeed if you dont troll
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#45 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="super600"]

Goodbye sony.

PinnacleGamingP

nice troll troll just a little bit harder next time you know what they say, you cant succeed if you dont troll

I never read the article idiot when I posted that.

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"Hirai said Sony will target customers willing to pay more and won't get sucked into a price war with cheap and cheerful Chineseplayers"

...........Say what? Chinese? CHINESE? Was there a some change in Nintendo's and Microsoft's management that I missed?

nervmeister
Hes not even talking about the gaming wing, just in general.
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#47 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="super600"]

Goodbye sony.

nice troll troll just a little bit harder next time you know what they say, you cant succeed if you dont troll

I never read the article idiot when I posted that.

:lol: there you have it folks, its ok to troll if you dont read the article
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#48 Heil68
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[QUOTE="super600"]

Goodbye sony.

PinnacleGamingP
nice troll troll just a little bit harder next time you know what they say, you cant succeed if you dont troll

And he is a champion of getting rid of inflammatory "needless" trolling. :roll:
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#49 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="super600"]

Goodbye sony.

nice troll troll just a little bit harder next time you know what they say, you cant succeed if you dont troll

And he is a champion of getting rid of inflammatory "needless" trolling. :roll:

he "hates" posts that add nothing to the discussion
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#50 quickposter
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So sony is trying to target rich businessmen.

super600

No. They are trying to target people who have two jobs.