Kaz Hirai Says PS3's Launch Troubles Was Due To Supply Not Price? *Laughs*

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=17624

47% of says he's nuts. If he isnt nuts what is HE?

Lets see what Kotaku had to say the week after launch:

In the days leading up to the PlayStation 3 launch in mid-November, people all over the country lined up with dollar signs in their eyes, hoping to cash in on what was sure to be the most sought after gift this holiday season. I talked to many people planning on financing college, cars, vacations, and countless other dream items with the fruits of their labor. A week later those hopes and dreams were crushed, as reports of plummeting eBay prices poured in. Just how fast did the PS3 grey market crash? Take a look for yourself, and feel free to click the graph for a larger version.

How are retail stores being affected?

With the prices dropping so low, many eBay hopefuls have been returning their purchases to the stores they procured them from. Between packing, shipping, and taxes, it's much less of a hassle just to get a refund and forget the whole thing ever happened. I decided to survey several popular retail 'superstores' to get a feel for just how big a trend grey market returns were.

-Kotaku

Link: http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3-grey-market/feature-the-decline-of-the-ps3-grey-market-224984.php

Yeah, sounds like Kaz is in damage control mode.

It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Timstuff

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.AfterShafter

Yeah, but who says I have to agree with them? If Sony had shipped a million PS3s before Christmas 06, they would have sold a million PS3s. They had the hype to do it, but they botched up manufacturing and let their own hype machine implode. Before Christmas, you couldn't find a PS3 anywhere. But after christmas, people had moved on to other, more easily availible interests, and PS3's hype had been effectively killed.

It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Timstuff

Yes for like 1 hour... then demand caught supply and the prices dropped back to the point where Ebayers decided it wasn't worth it and returned the systems.

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Timstuff

Yeah, but who says I have to agree with them? If Sony had shipped a million PS3s before Christmas 06, they would have sold a million PS3s. They had the hype to do it, but they botched up manufacturing and let their own hype machine implode. Before Christmas, you couldn't find a PS3 anywhere. But after christmas, people had moved on to other, more easily availible interests, and PS3's hype had been effectively killed.

Haha, never believe PR spin. I can't believe anyone would.

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Timstuff

Yeah, but who says I have to agree with them? If Sony had shipped a million PS3s before Christmas 06, they would have sold a million PS3s. They had the hype to do it, but they botched up manufacturing and let their own hype machine implode. Before Christmas, you couldn't find a PS3 anywhere. But after christmas, people had moved on to other, more easily availible interests, and PS3's hype had been effectively killed.

Who's Kaz Hirai?wiirdawgs

whos reggie fils-aime?

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.AfterShafter

Yeah, but who says I have to agree with them? If Sony had shipped a million PS3s before Christmas 06, they would have sold a million PS3s. They had the hype to do it, but they botched up manufacturing and let their own hype machine implode. Before Christmas, you couldn't find a PS3 anywhere. But after christmas, people had moved on to other, more easily availible interests, and PS3's hype had been effectively killed.

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

Timstuff

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

AfterShafter

The first thing you learn in college: "common sense" and "fact" are two entirely different things. Lemmings believe that because PS3 is doing badly now, they can re-write history and state that it was never in demand at all, which is utter BS. Sony DID have enough hype to sell PS3 at $600 when the system launched, but they botched up manufacturing. If it helps you sleep at night you can go ahead and believe that a week before Christmas no-one would touch the PS3 with a ten foot pole, but you will continue to live in a blissful land of ignorance instead of reality with the rest of the world.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

AfterShafter

Best Buy, Walmart, Target, Circut City, and best of all Eb games... I saw PS3's for sale at all of them in under two weeks.

It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Timstuff

Thats not true there where ps3s almost everywhere maybe you should do a little check on the net and you will see. But just make sure you don't check sony's site for the info!

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

Timstuff

The first thing you learn in college: "common sense" and "fact" are two entirely different things. Lemmings believe that because PS3 is doing badly now, they can re-write history and state that it was never in demand at all, which is utter BS. Sony DID have enough hype to sell PS3 at $600 when the system launched, but they botched up manufacturing. If it helps you sleep at night you can go ahead and believe that a week before Christmas no-one would touch the PS3 with a ten foot pole, but you will continue to live in a blissful land of ignorance instead of reality with the rest of the world.

XD and your "Fact" isn't based on what happend but what you wish happend. The demand drop before a month ended. There were units on shelves over christmas.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Duckyindiana

Thats not true there where ps3s almost everywhere maybe you should do a little check on the net and you will see. But just make sure you don't check sony's site for the info!

I couldn't find a PS3 until a month after launch, and it was only because I worked in the store where I bought it. You can use all the anecdotal evidence you want of PS3s being in stock before Christmas 06, but it's not going to win you an argument. The hard sales data shows that everything Sony shipped was being sold.

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Timstuff

Thats not true there where ps3s almost everywhere maybe you should do a little check on the net and you will see. But just make sure you don't check sony's site for the info!

I couldn't find a PS3 until a month after launch, and it was only because I worked in the store where I bought it. You can use all the anecdotal evidence you want of PS3s being in stock before Christmas 06, but it's not going to win you an argument. The hard sales data shows that everything Sony shipped was being sold.

Please post the Data then!

Timstuff don't you remember the Europe launch where they super saturated the market with PS3s? Sure they broke sales records initally but then sales dropped off 80% and then they couldn't even sell of of launch stock.

This is what I remember I'll have to look into this for verification though.

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

Timstuff

The first thing you learn in college: "common sense" and "fact" are two entirely different things. Lemmings believe that because PS3 is doing badly now, they can re-write history and state that it was never in demand at all, which is utter BS. Sony DID have enough hype to sell PS3 at $600 when the system launched, but they botched up manufacturing. If it helps you sleep at night you can go ahead and believe that a week before Christmas no-one would touch the PS3 with a ten foot pole, but you will continue to live in a blissful land of ignorance instead of reality with the rest of the world.

So when do you start college?

You provided nothing to back your statements up.

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

Timstuff

The first thing you learn in college: "common sense" and "fact" are two entirely different things. Lemmings believe that because PS3 is doing badly now, they can re-write history and state that it was never in demand at all, which is utter BS. Sony DID have enough hype to sell PS3 at $600 when the system launched, but they botched up manufacturing. If it helps you sleep at night you can go ahead and believe that a week before Christmas no-one would touch the PS3 with a ten foot pole, but you will continue to live in a blissful land of ignorance instead of reality with the rest of the world.

http://mobilitysite.com/2006/12/wii-doubles-ps3-sales-for-november/

Sony was originally going to ship 400k PS3 units, but they ended up slashing it down to 200k. So if it sold 195k during November, that makes the leftover 5k negligable, more or less the margin of error.

Sony was originally going to ship 400k PS3 units, but they ended up slashing it down to 200k. So if it sold 195k during November, that makes the leftover 5k negligable, more or less the margin of error.

Timstuff

Supply issue? Whats KAz smoking now a days?Eurobacca

Several thousand Xbox 360s are smoking. Now I'm done with this thread. NEXT.

[QUOTE="Eurobacca"]Supply issue? Whats KAz smoking now a days?Timstuff

Several thousand Xbox 360s are smoking. Now I'm done with this thread. NEXT.

Oh no! not the smoking 360 comeback!

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="Eurobacca"]Supply issue? Whats KAz smoking now a days?Eurobacca

Several thousand Xbox 360s are smoking. Now I'm done with this thread. NEXT.

Oh no! not the smoking 360 comeback!

:lol::cry: You're hilarious!

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

AfterShafter

The first thing you learn in college: "common sense" and "fact" are two entirely different things. Lemmings believe that because PS3 is doing badly now, they can re-write history and state that it was never in demand at all, which is utter BS. Sony DID have enough hype to sell PS3 at $600 when the system launched, but they botched up manufacturing. If it helps you sleep at night you can go ahead and believe that a week before Christmas no-one would touch the PS3 with a ten foot pole, but you will continue to live in a blissful land of ignorance instead of reality with the rest of the world.

Couldn't get into Harvard?

Couldn't get into Harvard?

Eurobacca

I'd blame the PS3's launch on a shortage... of people willing to pay $600 for a game machine.lowe0

Games machine? Or tarted up "Soon To Be Obsolete" next gen disk player?

[QUOTE="lowe0"]I'd blame the PS3's launch on a shortage... of people willing to pay $600 for a game machine.TTDog

Games machine? Or tarted up "Soon To Be Obsolete" next gen disk player?

Obsolete would be 360's dvd and 5.1 audio.

Trying to re-write history.JimmyT2

Duh, the PS3 is 4d :roll:

Anyone who denies that there were PS3's sitting on shelves before Christmas is lying, trolling, or deeply in denial (Kaz, Timstuff). Accept it.

lol@ at the comic strip. That was lame with the couple of wiis though.PSP107

No it wasn't, it was true.

A week later those hopes and dreams were crushed, as reports of plummeting eBay prices poured in. Just how fast did the PS3 grey market crash?

With the prices dropping so low, many eBay hopefuls have been returning their purchases to the stores they procured them from.BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Timstuff

Yeah, but who says I have to agree with them? If Sony had shipped a million PS3s before Christmas 06, they would have sold a million PS3s. They had the hype to do it, but they botched up manufacturing and let their own hype machine implode. Before Christmas, you couldn't find a PS3 anywhere. But after christmas, people had moved on to other, more easily availible interests, and PS3's hype had been effectively killed.

I couldn't find a 360 on a shelf for over 6 months.usmcjdk6

And I still cant find a Wii... :shock:

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=17624

47% of says he's nuts. If he isnt nuts what is HE?

PSP107

If ever a company needed to clean house and give PINK SLIPS it is Sony.

I mean Kaz should of went right a long with crazy Ken and that dumbo Howard Stringer needs to go also.

Kaz is in what's called MASSIVE COW DENIAL.