Kaz Hirai Says PS3's Launch Troubles Was Due To Supply Not Price? *Laughs*

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]I couldn't find a 360 on a shelf for over 6 months.Magical_Zebra

And I still cant find a Wii... :shock:

Where do you live I'll send you one! lol I've seen maybe 3 or 4 stores here with Wii's

Maybe some one should go to him and explain what the word shortage means.

Now, time for a dumb fanboy remark- The Ps3 shortage was as real as giant enemy crabs were prevalent in ancient Japan

Y'know, I'm kinda sad. Hirai's been infected by kutaragism. Supply issues... I'm surprised he even rekindled the topic. I mean, they got owned, they suffered poor sellthroughs compared to what they were expecting. They should just let it go instead of bringing up old lies back. It's too soon for people to have forgotten about what happened.

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]I couldn't find a 360 on a shelf for over 6 months.Magical_Zebra

And I still cant find a Wii... :shock:

Wiis are easy to find around here, in almost every store. Of course, the MSRP is about $450 USD (Against $500 for the x360 premium, 2 games included or $950 for the Ps3), so...

But yeah, where the prices are reasonable, the Wii is impossible to find.

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Timstuff

Yeah, but who says I have to agree with them? If Sony had shipped a million PS3s before Christmas 06, they would have sold a million PS3s. They had the hype to do it, but they botched up manufacturing and let their own hype machine implode. Before Christmas, you couldn't find a PS3 anywhere. But after christmas, people had moved on to other, more easily availible interests, and PS3's hype had been effectively killed.

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Timstuff

oh wait....i was about to slam sony for such a stupid remark. but i looked at the title of the topic again and it says LAUNCH probs.

hes right there....there was major issues with blu-ray lenses or something. basically they couldnt make enough drives for the PS3 at the time. thats why they delayed the europe launch till march. PS3s over here were sold out for about 2 weeks before they were easily available...the thing had very high initial demand. it just went south very quickly after launch.

however the PS3 is no longer supply constrained. sales issues today are for other reasons and sony need to sort em out.

oh wait....i was about to slam sony for such a stupid remark. but i looked at the title of the topic again and it says LAUNCH probs.

hes right there....there was major issues with blu-ray lenses or something. basically they couldnt make enough drives for the PS3 at the time. thats why they delayed the europe launch till march. PS3s over here were sold out for about 2 weeks before they were easily available...the thing had very high initial demand. it just went south very quickly after launch.

however the PS3 is no longer supply constrained. sales issues today are for other reasons and sony need to sort em out.

osan0

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]I couldn't find a 360 on a shelf for over 6 months.blue_hazy_basic

And I still cant find a Wii... :shock:

Where do you live I'll send you one! lol I've seen maybe 3 or 4 stores here with Wii's

Wash DC. Seriously, I can never get my grubby paws on one. The shipments come in on sundays early in the morning, but Im not getting up that damn early...

I'd blame the PS3's launch on a shortage... of people willing to pay $600 for a game machine.lowe0

this blows...i really thought Kaz wouldn't be as bad as Ken...

oh well....

i'd say he's:

1. nuts.

2. trying to spin the obvious lack of interest.

3. both.

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

GundamGuy0

Best Buy, Walmart, Target, Circut City, and best of all Eb games... I saw PS3's for sale at all of them in under two weeks.

thats bullcrap, i wanted one all winter long and i would go to retailers all over my area, eb, bb, walmart, target everywhere they were out of stock til the end of winter around jan or february and by then i didnt want one and was fully satisfied with the 360 i already had. 2 weeks is sucha lie its not even funny, either that or u really forgot when shelves went from empty to now full at all times of ps3s

if they had more in supply at launch more people would of bought them, beacause they were completly sold out in the first 24 hoursmattyomo99

Seriously the haters on this board are pathetic...they would say the sky was green if Kaz Hirai said it was blue.

"riiiiidge racerrrr"

Any moron that has accumulated 6800 posts on here is just that - amoron.

I laugh at the fact that a serious hardcore gamer is trying to outshine everyone on teh internetz.

usmcjdk6

Ugh... everybody here knows that the PS3 didn't sell out everywhere at launch. The news reported many stores with PS3s on shelves and so on.

So, of course what he said is silly. But still doesn't beat Tretton.

Reporter:"The PS3 is in last place... why do you think that is ?"

Tretton:"Uhmm.. the PS3 is still dominant !"

lol

Ugh... everybody here knows that the PS3 didn't sell out everywhere at launch. The news reported many stores with PS3s on shelves and so on.

So, of course what he said is silly. But still doesn't beat Tretton.

Reporter:"The PS3 is in last place... why do you think that is ?"

Tretton:"Uhmm.. the PS3 is still dominant !"

lol

Forza_2

[QUOTE="Forza_2"]

Ugh... everybody here knows that the PS3 didn't sell out everywhere at launch. The news reported many stores with PS3s on shelves and so on.

So, of course what he said is silly. But still doesn't beat Tretton.

Reporter:"The PS3 is in last place... why do you think that is ?"

Tretton:"Uhmm.. the PS3 is still dominant !"

lol

Truth-slayer

No, actually economics suggest that if there had been more console they would have meet there demand in 3-4 weeks instead of 5. You would have seen boxes on shelves the last week of december instead of the first week of January...

It is a well-known fact that before January it was next to impossible to buy a PS3 in a store.
Truth-slayer

Link please.

:lol:

[QUOTE="Forza_2"]

Ugh... everybody here knows that the PS3 didn't sell out everywhere at launch. The news reported many stores with PS3s on shelves and so on.

So, of course what he said is silly. But still doesn't beat Tretton.

Reporter:"The PS3 is in last place... why do you think that is ?"

Tretton:"Uhmm.. the PS3 is still dominant !"

lol

Truth-slayer

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Timstuff

Yeah, but who says I have to agree with them? If Sony had shipped a million PS3s before Christmas 06, they would have sold a million PS3s. They had the hype to do it, but they botched up manufacturing and let their own hype machine implode. Before Christmas, you couldn't find a PS3 anywhere. But after christmas, people had moved on to other, more easily availible interests, and PS3's hype had been effectively killed.

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

wow I dont even know what to say to this ur in denial. Hype died for the ps3 within 2 weeks if you cant acknowledge that then I guess nothing will convince you of sonys failure.

[QUOTE="mattyomo99"]if they had more in supply at launch more people would of bought them, beacause they were completly sold out in the first 24 hoursTruth-slayer

Seriously the haters on this board are pathetic...they would say the sky was green if Kaz Hirai said it was blue.

given sony's history of lies, i'd at least look out the window and check...;)

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.youngtongue

Yeah, but who says I have to agree with them? If Sony had shipped a million PS3s before Christmas 06, they would have sold a million PS3s. They had the hype to do it, but they botched up manufacturing and let their own hype machine implode. Before Christmas, you couldn't find a PS3 anywhere. But after christmas, people had moved on to other, more easily availible interests, and PS3's hype had been effectively killed.

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

wow I dont even know what to say to this ur in denial. Hype died for the ps3 within 2 weeks if you cant acknowledge that then I guess nothing will convince you of sonys failure.

2 weeks? :lol: Ebayers were very sad after 2 hours!

They did not sell out most of europe launch.

[QUOTE="Forza_2"]

Ugh... everybody here knows that the PS3 didn't sell out everywhere at launch. The news reported many stores with PS3s on shelves and so on.

So, of course what he said is silly. But still doesn't beat Tretton.

Reporter:"The PS3 is in last place... why do you think that is ?"

Tretton:"Uhmm.. the PS3 is still dominant !"

lol

Truth-slayer

Hahaha got to love the cows "fact" statements.

Anyway I wouldn't say the PS3 was readily available in every area but it was available in a lot. Which means that it wasn't in hot demand. Even if the PS3 was out of stock till Jan it was still caught up to demand a lot faster than any console in history. The fact the sales have been welll short of what Sony expected since launch doesn't say much for the success of the PS3 or Kazs response.

You want proof?

The 360 was out of stock long after the launch. You couldn't find a 360 till April or later.

The Wii is still very hard to find, 11 months after launch!!!!!

The PS3 caught up with it's weak demand in less than 2 months after it's launch.

What does all thismean????? It means demand was low and only the hardcore Sony fanboys were buying the PS3. Just think if the 360 or Wii actually had enough supply to meet demand.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=17624

47% of says he's nuts. If he isnt nuts what is HE?

PSP107

Now to click the link. ;)

The only supply problem was that there wasn't enough room for all the consoles on the shelves ...

They did not sell out most of europe launch.

real45

People had discovered the truth behind Sony's deceit over the true power of the PS3 by then and there was much much less hype.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=17624

47% of says he's nuts. If he isnt nuts what is HE?

PSP107

Kaz is clueless. There were no supply issues at all with the PS3. By the 1st week of January 07there were literally thousands of PS3 still on retail shelves. It was obviously the price and lack of quality titles that caused the poor PS3 sales. When Ebayers start bringing PS3 back to Gamestop, EBGames, Toys R Us and Best Buy because they can't sell them on EBAY for a profit, you know there's an issue with you game console.

Lets see what Kotaku had to say the week after launch:

In the days leading up to the PlayStation 3 launch in mid-November, people all over the country lined up with dollar signs in their eyes, hoping to cash in on what was sure to be the most sought after gift this holiday season. I talked to many people planning on financing college, cars, vacations, and countless other dream items with the fruits of their labor. A week later those hopes and dreams were crushed, as reports of plummeting eBay prices poured in. Just how fast did the PS3 grey market crash? Take a look for yourself, and feel free to click the graph for a larger version.

How are retail stores being affected?

With the prices dropping so low, many eBay hopefuls have been returning their purchases to the stores they procured them from. Between packing, shipping, and taxes, it's much less of a hassle just to get a refund and forget the whole thing ever happened. I decided to survey several popular retail 'superstores' to get a feel for just how big a trend grey market returns were.

-Kotaku

Link: http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3-grey-market/feature-the-decline-of-the-ps3-grey-market-224984.php

Yeah, sounds like Kaz is in damage control mode.

BioShockOwnz

You should forward this information to Kaz for a reality check. :lol:

Kaz isn't clueless at all, he gets paid millions of dollars to expell this kind of methane - the ULTIMATE COW.

Not only is his product on the line, but so is his job and reputation.

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Timstuff

Yeah, but who says I have to agree with them? If Sony had shipped a million PS3s before Christmas 06, they would have sold a million PS3s. They had the hype to do it, but they botched up manufacturing and let their own hype machine implode. Before Christmas, you couldn't find a PS3 anywhere. But after christmas, people had moved on to other, more easily availible interests, and PS3's hype had been effectively killed.

What was posted above from the others were FACT. It was even on the news that Ebayers were returning PS3 because they couldn't sell them on EBay for $1000, $800 or even $600. David Reeves (or whatever his name is in the U.K.) did make those comments about paying $1200 for anyone who could find a PS3 in retail stores. I'm sure many picutres were e-mailed to him and I'm sure he didn't pay up.

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]It's true. You couldn't find PS3s anywhere. If Sony hadn't botched up the supply early on then PS3 would have had a much larger initial install base. People were prepared to pay like $1000 on the thing, so if Sony had been able to supply enough to retailers, I'm sure people would have flocked to pay $600 for it. Now though, PS3 sales are in a lull with the hype died down, and the best way to get people's attention now is to keep lowering the price. Sony truly missed their chance to sell lots of PS3s at the highest price possible.Timstuff

Yeah, but who says I have to agree with them? If Sony had shipped a million PS3s before Christmas 06, they would have sold a million PS3s. They had the hype to do it, but they botched up manufacturing and let their own hype machine implode. Before Christmas, you couldn't find a PS3 anywhere. But after christmas, people had moved on to other, more easily availible interests, and PS3's hype had been effectively killed.

wow - this gets my vote for delusional post of the year. so people not buying them off ebay was because people were too busy running from store to store trying to find one right? and all the major retailers in my outlet didn't have all those stacks of PS3s that I took photographs of... sheesh, what else that happened in the past hasn't happened in your 'version' of the past?

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

A week huh? Where were they? Because I wasn't aware of PS3s being readily availible until JANUARY. There is no proof in your pudding, only lies of lemmings.

Timstuff

The first thing you learn in college: "common sense" and "fact" are two entirely different things. Lemmings believe that because PS3 is doing badly now, they can re-write history and state that it was never in demand at all, which is utter BS. Sony DID have enough hype to sell PS3 at $600 when the system launched, but they botched up manufacturing. If it helps you sleep at night you can go ahead and believe that a week before Christmas no-one would touch the PS3 with a ten foot pole, but you will continue to live in a blissful land of ignorance instead of reality with the rest of the world.

dont know what college you went to but I learned those concepts in grade school.

the only re-writing of history happening here is being done by Sony. you my friend - are one unique critter, living in a land of delusion.

Just showing Sonys ignorance, they refuse to believe its the price holding them back.

Reminds me of the N64, when Nintendo still used cartridges.

The only supply problem was that there wasn't enough room for all the consoles on the shelves ...

OhhSnap50893

[QUOTE="Forza_2"]

Ugh... everybody here knows that the PS3 didn't sell out everywhere at launch. The news reported many stores with PS3s on shelves and so on.

So, of course what he said is silly. But still doesn't beat Tretton.

Reporter:"The PS3 is in last place... why do you think that is ?"

Tretton:"Uhmm.. the PS3 is still dominant !"

lol

Truth-slayer

Um....NO! Were you in the US? Because where I am in northern virginia, PS3's were in stores a week before Xmas.... :shock:

[QUOTE="youngtongue"]

wow I dont even know what to say to this ur in denial. Hype died for the ps3 within 2 weeks if you cant acknowledge that then I guess nothing will convince you of sonys failure.

blue_hazy_basic

2 weeks? :lol: Ebayers were very sad after 2 hours!

I was one of them. I got my PS3 exactly 1 week after launch. By that time, the going price for a PS3 on ebay was AT or a little below retail. I actually got owned because I had to pay to have the damn console listed and the offers I got were fake. :shock:

I think he has a point. If Sony had more supply in first 2 weeks or so, a lot of buyers would have bought it.