Kazunori: We Can Release Gran Turismo 5 Whenever We Want.

Here is a new quote form the interview:

Eurogamer: One of the things that stood out in Microsoft's press conference was the Forza team saying it was the definitive simulation racer. How do you feel about that?

Kazunori Yamauchi: I don't exactly know what their announcement was about, but we've evolved over 10 years through our history, towards GT5, and I don't know if it's something that can be compared.

I like how Kaz didn't throw a cheap shot back at Turn10. :)

The thing is that Forza is a great franchise, but that doesn't mean GT is no longer fun just because there is a comparable or even mildly better experience out there. Even if Forza scores higher and sells more I will still have fun with GT, sometimes trivial preferences are just that.

warbmxjohn

I don't like the attitude of the devs behind Turn10. They sound like they are desperate. You don't see Kazunori going around saying,

"GT5 will look better than FM3"

"GT is the definitive simulation racer"

"Gran Turismo 5 the most beautiful and realistic racing game ever made."

All I did was take quotes from Turn10 Devs and switched out FM with GT.

Yawn. Sure they can release the game anytime they want because they know people want to play the game so bad that they will pay 40 bucks for a demo and defend it. They could release GT in wireframe mode only and people will call it the most realistic driving experience ever. It's getting really boring. They can release it anytime they want but they won't because they know that he competition is really strong now. Everybody has good looking racers now. You'd better bring more than that.

I don't like the attitude of the devs behind Turn10. Yhey sound like they are desperate. You don't see Kazunori going around saying,

"GT5 will look better than FM3"

"GT is the definitive simulation racer"

"Gran Turismo 5 the most beautiful and realistic racing game ever made."

All I did was take quotes from Turn10 Devs and switched out FM with GT.

Rikusaki

It's called marketing.

I don't like the attitude of the devs behind Turn10. Yhey sound like they are desperate. You don't see Kazunori going around saying,

"GT5 will look better than FM3"

"GT is the definitive simulation racer"

"Gran Turismo 5 the most beautiful and realistic racing game ever made."

All I did was take quotes from Turn10 Devs and switched out FM with GT.

Rikusaki

Come on man, please. Kaz is arrogant as hell.

Yawn. Sure they can release the game anytime they want because they know people want to play the game so bad that they will pay 40 bucks for a demo and defend it. They could release GT in wireframe mode only and people will call it the most realistic driving experience ever. It's getting really boring. They can release it anytime they want but they won't because they know that he competition is really strong now. Everybody has good looking racers now. You'd better bring more than that.

heretrix

well hell, they're trying to take on the competition with GT5, that's why it's taking them so long. it's no excuse though, in fact it's becoming embarrassing that it takes them this long to get the game out. It's loaded with cotent, it looks pretty, ok. By the time this game comes out, at least TWO other forza's will have released. why didn't it take them this long to make ONE DAMN GAME? i really hope this game is good, in fact, it probably will be "top notch" "grade A" or whatever. It's a shame that playing catch up hurt them so bad.

It's also a shame that once GT5 comes out, not nearly as many people will care. they really shot themselves in the face with this game

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

I don't like the attitude of the devs behind Turn10. Yhey sound like they are desperate. You don't see Kazunori going around saying,

"GT5 will look better than FM3"

"GT is the definitive simulation racer"

"Gran Turismo 5 the most beautiful and realistic racing game ever made."

All I did was take quotes from Turn10 Devs and switched out FM with GT.

heretrix

Come on man, please. Kaz is arrogant as hell.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Yawn. Sure they can release the game anytime they want because they know people want to play the game so bad that they will pay 40 bucks for a demo and defend it. They could release GT in wireframe mode only and people will call it the most realistic driving experience ever. It's getting really boring. They can release it anytime they want but they won't because they know that he competition is really strong now. Everybody has good looking racers now. You'd better bring more than that.

Mr_Apple_Soup

well hell, they're trying to take on the competition with GT5, that's why it's taking them so long. it's no excuse though, in fact it's becoming embarrassing that it takes them this long to get the game out. It's loaded with cotent, it looks pretty, ok. By the time this game comes out, at least TWO other forza's will have released. why didn't it take them this long to make ONE DAMN GAME? i really hope this game is good, in fact, it probably will be "top notch" "grade A" or whatever. It's a shame that playing catch up hurt them so bad.

It's also a shame that once GT5 comes out, not nearly as many people will care.

As for people not caring about GT5, I disagree. It's gonna sell like crazy.

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Yawn. Sure they can release the game anytime they want because they know people want to play the game so bad that they will pay 40 bucks for a demo and defend it. They could release GT in wireframe mode only and people will call it the most realistic driving experience ever. It's getting really boring. They can release it anytime they want but they won't because they know that he competition is really strong now. Everybody has good looking racers now. You'd better bring more than that.

heretrix

well hell, they're trying to take on the competition with GT5, that's why it's taking them so long. it's no excuse though, in fact it's becoming embarrassing that it takes them this long to get the game out. It's loaded with cotent, it looks pretty, ok. By the time this game comes out, at least TWO other forza's will have released. why didn't it take them this long to make ONE DAMN GAME? i really hope this game is good, in fact, it probably will be "top notch" "grade A" or whatever. It's a shame that playing catch up hurt them so bad.

It's also a shame that once GT5 comes out, not nearly as many people will care.

As for people not caring about GT5, I disagree. It's gonna sell like crazy.

yes, it will sell, a lot too if the other 4 are any indication, but i have a feel people aren't going to care as much this time around because the game has changed. The first three GT's were like gods. the little competition they had was easily tosted aside. It's different now. You have your Forza, and your burnout and PGR, midnight club, nascar games etc. Not all exactly being sims, but the same concept of sexy cars and pretty graphics. It's impact will be vastly smaller than any of its predescers. The competition is there now, and its vastly worthier than before. Like you said, forza was just as good, if not better than GT4, and forza 2-3 are improving that. Grand turismo has been out of the picture for too long, i think, and developers snatched the oppertunity to bring it down. I really can't say i think it will be the "be all-end all racer" like 1-3 were

but hey, im just speculating

I don't like the attitude of the devs behind Turn10. They sound like they are desperate. You don't see Kazunori going around saying,

"GT5 will look better than FM3"

"GT is the definitive simulation racer"

"Gran Turismo 5 the most beautiful and realistic racing game ever made."

All I did was take quotes from Turn10 Devs and switched out FM with GT.

Rikusaki

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

I don't like the attitude of the devs behind Turn10. They sound like they are desperate. You don't see Kazunori going around saying,

"GT5 will look better than FM3"

"GT is the definitive simulation racer"

"Gran Turismo 5 the most beautiful and realistic racing game ever made."

All I did was take quotes from Turn10 Devs and switched out FM with GT.

foxhound_fox

Here is a new quote form the interview:

Eurogamer: One of the things that stood out in Microsoft's press conference was the Forza team saying it was the definitive simulation racer. How do you feel about that?

Kazunori Yamauchi: I don't exactly know what their announcement was about, but we've evolved over 10 years through our history, towards GT5, and I don't know if it's something that can be compared.

I like how Kaz didn't throw a cheap shot back at Turn10. :)

Rikusaki

Or, it can be seen as Kaz taking a huge cheap shot at Forza by saying the two developers' respective achievements can't be compared.

And let's not act like he hasn't thrown jabs at other racers now...

"Actually, I have difficulty playing other games for over five minutes. A lot of the low-level quality just stands out so much in other games that I can't stand them!"

Link

"I try them out a little bit. The only impression I get from those games is that the only benchmark for Gran Turismo is Gran Turismo and we have to base ourselves on that."

Link

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Here is a new quote form the interview:

Eurogamer: One of the things that stood out in Microsoft's press conference was the Forza team saying it was the definitive simulation racer. How do you feel about that?

Kazunori Yamauchi: I don't exactly know what their announcement was about, but we've evolved over 10 years through our history, towards GT5, and I don't know if it's something that can be compared.

I like how Kaz didn't throw a cheap shot back at Turn10. :)

The_Game21x

Or, it can be seen as Kaz taking a huge cheap shot at Forza by saying the two developers' respective achievements can't be compared.

And let's not act like he hasn't thrown jabs at other racers now...

"Actually, I have difficulty playing other games for over five minutes. A lot of the low-level quality just stands out so much in other games that I can't stand them!"

Link

"I try them out a little bit. The only impression I get from those games is that the only benchmark for Gran Turismo is Gran Turismo and we have to base ourselves on that."

Link

Yes, he did say those things. I guess most game designers act this way towards other games within the same genre.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Here is a new quote form the interview:

Eurogamer: One of the things that stood out in Microsoft's press conference was the Forza team saying it was the definitive simulation racer. How do you feel about that?

Kazunori Yamauchi: I don't exactly know what their announcement was about, but we've evolved over 10 years through our history, towards GT5, and I don't know if it's something that can be compared.

I like how Kaz didn't throw a cheap shot back at Turn10. :)

Rikusaki

Or, it can be seen as Kaz taking a huge cheap shot at Forza by saying the two developers' respective achievements can't be compared.

And let's not act like he hasn't thrown jabs at other racers now...

"Actually, I have difficulty playing other games for over five minutes. A lot of the low-level quality just stands out so much in other games that I can't stand them!"

Link

"I try them out a little bit. The only impression I get from those games is that the only benchmark for Gran Turismo is Gran Turismo and we have to base ourselves on that."

Link

Yes, he did say those things. I guess most game designers act this way towards other games within the same genre.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

I don't like the attitude of the devs behind Turn10. They sound like they are desperate. You don't see Kazunori going around saying,

"GT5 will look better than FM3"

"GT is the definitive simulation racer"

"Gran Turismo 5 the most beautiful and realistic racing game ever made."

All I did was take quotes from Turn10 Devs and switched out FM with GT.

Rikusaki

Just because they are both great games doesn't mean he doesn't look at the Forza series as competition. I don't see where you get the idea that the video game industry should be some magical place of rainbows and glitter where everybody gets first place. I'm sure the devs are not thinking in those dreamy kind of terms. Competition can be a good thing and I guarantee you that the devs of both franchises are evaluating eachother's games and making decisions based on that evaluation, which would be a form of competition.

True, but he still doesn't look at the Forza series as competition for GT. They are both great games.

Rikusaki

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"]WELL THAN RELEASE IT ALREADY GODDAMMIT!!!! Seriously, what are you waiting for? savetehhaloz

[QUOTE="savetehhaloz"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"] They are making it perfect for us! Just wait! Remember when GTA IV was delayed for further polishing? The result was an AAAA title. Just wait a little longer...Rza_rectah

So would you be okay without waiting 3 more years?

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Or, it can be seen as Kaz taking a huge cheap shot at Forza by saying the two developers' respective achievements can't be compared.

And let's not act like he hasn't thrown jabs at other racers now...

"Actually, I have difficulty playing other games for over five minutes. A lot of the low-level quality just stands out so much in other games that I can't stand them!"

Link

"I try them out a little bit. The only impression I get from those games is that the only benchmark for Gran Turismo is Gran Turismo and we have to base ourselves on that."

Link

vaderhater

Yes, he did say those things. I guess most game designers act this way towards other games within the same genre.

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="savetehhaloz"] look, GT5 has been in development for bloody ages. how much further polishing? Tragic_Kingdom7

So would you be okay without waiting 3 more years?

Sounds good, but I still think we will see this game in early 2010, not late 2009. Maybe the gap between FM3's release and GT5's won't be as big as we thought.

Rikusaki

Hummm interesting...So you are not standing behind the "He laughed at a 2010 release" anymore?

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] the the longer the better, im all for waiting man if the product will end up better.Rikusaki

So would you be okay without waiting 3 more years?

Finished with it? Yet they showed no gameplay or spoke about anything we can expect in the game?..You "honestly" believe that?

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] the the longer the better, im all for waiting man if the product will end up better.Rikusaki

So would you be okay without waiting 3 more years?

I'm not saying that it will take 3 years (though I don't believe that the game is finished). I'm just challenging the "the longer, the better" logic.

Even though I'm not really into car racing sims, it would be nice to see Sonyrelease one of their flagship titles. Who knows how far they are on the build this may all be PR b.s to quell the rage that all GT fans have. Help give them a little hope that GT5 might see the light of day soon rather then later.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
Of course they do a lot of research... but with GT4 they failed to live up to the standards of Forza Motorsport on the Xbox... which provided a more realistic experience. And now with two more ground-breaking Forza's coming out before the next "proper" GT, its going to look really bad for them if it is anything short of "perfect." Which of course is impossible to achieve.

warbmxjohn

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

So then... release it. Or is he just lying to keep GT-fans excited?

samuraiguns

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

So then... release it. Or is he just lying to keep GT-fans excited?

-Renegade

This is pretty much true. I don't think Kazunori cares about Forza 3...actually I think he likes it :P

Hummm interesting...So you are not standing behind the "He laughed at a 2010 release" anymore?

masiisam

Finished with it? Yet they showed no gameplay or spoke about anything we can expect in the game?..You "honestly" believe that?

masiisam

So then... release it. Or is he just lying to keep GT-fans excited?

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

Hummm interesting...So you are not standing behind the "He laughed at a 2010 release" anymore?

Rikusaki

Finished with it? Yet they showed no gameplay or spoke about anything we can expect in the game?..You "honestly" believe that?

masiisam

Can yea link me to the part in Sony's E3 key note they confirmed anything? ..I must have missed that part...:?

It's funny you bring up GT4..Poly also confirmed Online for GT4......But I am again at a loss for words....Of the hundreds of hours I put into that game...I cant find the menu to go online..:(

Can yea help me with that?

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

So would you be okay without waiting 3 more years?

I'm not saying that it will take 3 years (though I don't believe that the game is finished). I'm just challenging the "the longer, the better" logic.

Can yea link me to the part in Sony's E3 key note they confirmed anything? ..I must have missed that part...:?

It's funny you bring up GT4..Poly also confirmed Online for GT4......But I am again at a loss for words....Of the hundreds of hours I put into that game...I cant find the menu to go online..:(

Can yea help me with that?

masiisam

[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="samuraiguns"] I think he is probably waiting on Forza 3 release date.2beers_in_hand

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

Can yea link me to the part in Sony's E3 key note they confirmed anything? ..I must have missed that part...:?

It's funny you bring up GT4..Poly also confirmed Online for GT4......But I am again at a loss for words....Of the hundreds of hours I put into that game...I cant find the menu to go online..:(

Can yea help me with that?

Rikusaki

Ohhh so it's not in the game...Whewww.....I thought I was going nuts for a second...

But by the history of how Ploy cuts "major" features before the release of a game...You trust they won't do the same with damage or dynamitic weather effects?

That's nice. You can release it whenever you want, but you're also becoming irrelevant by the day, Polyphony. The last time you were on top was with GT3.

BioShockOwnz

That's quite the exaggeration.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

That's nice. You can release it whenever you want, but you're also becoming irrelevant by the day, Polyphony. The last time you were on top was with GT3.

Chutebox

That's quite the exaggeration.

Quite, but some people feel that way.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

Can yea link me to the part in Sony's E3 key note they confirmed anything? ..I must have missed that part...:?

It's funny you bring up GT4..Poly also confirmed Online for GT4......But I am again at a loss for words....Of the hundreds of hours I put into that game...I cant find the menu to go online..:(

Can yea help me with that?

masiisam

Ohhh so it's not in the game...Whewww.....I thought I was going nuts for a second...

But by the history of how Ploy cuts "major" features before the release of a game...You trust they won't do the same with damage or dynamitic weather effects?