Killer Instinct - "technically we are running at 720p and 60 FPS"

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On being asked how difficult or easy it was to run the game at 60 FPS at 1080p, the duo replied: Technically we are running at 720p and 60 FPS

Reserving my front seat.

Don't know why some people are hyping this unfinished game AAAE. All Xbone launch titles look horribly rushed.

So the only game that *can* do 60FPS and 1080p is Killzone SF and its only the MP side. Dam these consoles suck. clyde46

[QUOTE="clyde46"]So the only game that *can* do 60FPS and 1080p is Killzone SF and its only the MP side. Dam these consoles suck. Zero5000X

After what's been happening with Titanfall, KI and Dead Rising, I think what you saw were all bullshots.

I expect sub-1080p or some graphical downgrades from what we saw at E3. :lol:

[QUOTE="clyde46"]So the only game that *can* do 60FPS and 1080p is Killzone SF and its only the MP side. Dam these consoles suck. Zero5000X

So the only game that *can* do 60FPS and 1080p is Killzone SF and its only the MP side. Dam these consoles suck. clyde46

So the only game that *can* do 60FPS and 1080p is Killzone SF and its only the MP side. Dam these consoles suck. clyde46

That's not a locked down 60fps either

I think the real issue is with next gen engines. Most developers haven't had the time to actually craft a next gen engine. Hell, even KZ:SF is being rendered in a modified KZ3 engine. Certain part of the engine like the lighting system have been redone but the vast majority of it hasn't been completely redone, simple re-written and beefed up for the PS4. It takes a really long time to create a solid new engine for a new platform. Nonstop-Madness

But KZ: SF is running at 1080p/60 FPS while having better graphics and tons of particle effects. KI is a f*cking fighting game for god's sake. You have a small background  hat you don't interact with, 2 characters and their animations. How much processing power would be required to make it at 1080p/60 FPS?

I know the laws of diminishing returns in regards of TF, but I didn't think the difference would be this big.

Double helix is a shit developer to begin with. Why anyone would care about a game they make is beyond me.

I love the "technically" part though, that shit was funny.

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]I think the real issue is with next gen engines. Most developers haven't had the time to actually craft a next gen engine. Hell, even KZ:SF is being rendered in a modified KZ3 engine. Certain part of the engine like the lighting system have been redone but the vast majority of it hasn't been completely redone, simple re-written and beefed up for the PS4. It takes a really long time to create a solid new engine for a new platform. Sonysexual1

But KZ: SF is running at 1080p/60 FPS while having better graphics and tons of particle effects. KI is a f*cking fighting game for god's sake. You have a small background  hat you don't interact with, 2 characters and their animations. How much processing power would be required to make it at 1080p/60 FPS?

I know the laws of diminishing returns in regards of TF, but I didn't think the difference would be this big.

Killzone is 60 fps and 1080p? link?TheGuardian03

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/08/22/killzone-shadow-fall-multiplayer-targeting-60fps/

MP will be attempting to hit 60fps but not constant. 

[QUOTE="clyde46"]So the only game that *can* do 60FPS and 1080p is Killzone SF and its only the MP side. Dam these consoles suck. Tighaman

It's from 40-60. I don't see it dropping below 30.

So the only game that *can* do 60FPS and 1080p is Killzone SF and its only the MP side. Dam these consoles suck. clyde46

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]I think the real issue is with next gen engines. Most developers haven't had the time to actually craft a next gen engine. Hell, even KZ:SF is being rendered in a modified KZ3 engine. Certain part of the engine like the lighting system have been redone but the vast majority of it hasn't been completely redone, simple re-written and beefed up for the PS4. It takes a really long time to create a solid new engine for a new platform. savagetwinkie

But KZ: SF is running at 1080p/60 FPS while having better graphics and tons of particle effects. KI is a f*cking fighting game for god's sake. You have a small background  hat you don't interact with, 2 characters and their animations. How much processing power would be required to make it at 1080p/60 FPS?

I know the laws of diminishing returns in regards of TF, but I didn't think the difference would be this big.

A 2d fighting game cant run in native 1080p on Xbox One? wow wow wow wow:lol:

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

But KZ: SF is running at 1080p/60 FPS while having better graphics and tons of particle effects. KI is a f*cking fighting game for god's sake. You have a small background  hat you don't interact with, 2 characters and their animations. How much processing power would be required to make it at 1080p/60 FPS?

I know the laws of diminishing returns in regards of TF, but I didn't think the difference would be this big.

Nonstop-Madness

[QUOTE="clyde46"]So the only game that *can* do 60FPS and 1080p is Killzone SF and its only the MP side. Dam these consoles suck. pelvist

Resogun is actually doing some really interesting physics based stuff; the physics are insane. These aren't just particles effects or sprites but actually tiny little cubes that are interacting with each other. 
 

[QUOTE="pelvist"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]So the only game that *can* do 60FPS and 1080p is Killzone SF and its only the MP side. Dam these consoles suck. Nonstop-Madness

Resogun is actually doing some really interesting physics based stuff; the physics are insane. These aren't just particles effects or sprites but actually tiny little cubes that are interacting with each other. 
 

The character models might not be impressive, but the tech behind that game is. There are around 200,000 cubes all interacting with each other. You'd need some serious computing power to handle all those physics calculations. Combine that with the crapton of particle effects and the game is truly something to brag about.

Oh yeah, and the game isn't even optimized yet. The PS4 looks to be an amazing console next gen.

So they are not sacrificing the 60 fps. Good. They once again prove they know how to make a fighting game.

So they are not sacrificing the 60 fps. Good. They once again prove they know how to make a fighting game.

timbers_WSU

Man these little cows running around this site make us real game fan who's getting the ps4 because we like the games look bad...

So they are not sacrificing the 60 fps. Good. They once again prove they know how to make a fighting game.

timbers_WSU

[QUOTE="pelvist"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]So the only game that *can* do 60FPS and 1080p is Killzone SF and its only the MP side. Dam these consoles suck. Nonstop-Madness

Resogun is actually doing some really interesting physics based stuff; the physics are insane. These aren't just particles effects or sprites but actually tiny little cubes that are interacting with each other. 
 

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

So they are not sacrificing the 60 fps. Good. They once again prove they know how to make a fighting game.

QUIKnEZ

For the PS4, NOT for the Xbox ONE.

Cerny added in tons of ACEs to the last 4 CUs of the PS4's GPU as incentives for devs to use GPGPU processing without taking a graphical hit to the games. There is no such modification on the Xbox ONE's side. In fact, most of the modification on the Xbox ONE's hardware are bandaid solutions to the DDR3 RAM. The Xbox ONE will hit its cap much earlier than the PS4.

Furthermore, there is no proof that Watch Dogs looks the same on both next-gen consoles. Ubisoft have only shown the PS4 version. Same with every single multiplat (With the exception of CoD: Ghosts, which look like ass).

[QUOTE="QUIKnEZ"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

So they are not sacrificing the 60 fps. Good. They once again prove they know how to make a fighting game.

Sonysexual1

For the PS4, NOT for the Xbox ONE.

Cerny added in tons of ACEs to the last 4 CUs of the PS4's GPU as incentives for devs to use GPGPU processing without taking a graphical hit to the games. There is no such modification on the Xbox ONE's side. In fact, most of the modification on the Xbox ONE's hardware are bandaid solutions to the DDR3 RAM. The Xbox ONE will hit its cap much earlier than the PS4.

Furthermore, there is no proof that Watch Dogs looks the same on both next-gen consoles. Ubisoft have only shown the PS4 version. Same with every single multiplat (With the exception of CoD: Ghosts, which look like ass).

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]I think the real issue is with next gen engines. Most developers haven't had the time to actually craft a next gen engine. Hell, even KZ:SF is being rendered in a modified KZ3 engine. Certain part of the engine like the lighting system have been redone but the vast majority of it hasn't been completely redone, simple re-written and beefed up for the PS4. It takes a really long time to create a solid new engine for a new platform. Sonysexual1

But KZ: SF is running at 1080p/60 FPS while having better graphics and tons of particle effects. KI is a f*cking fighting game for god's sake. You have a small background  hat you don't interact with, 2 characters and their animations. How much processing power would be required to make it at 1080p/60 FPS?

I know the laws of diminishing returns in regards of TF, but I didn't think the difference would be this big.

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="QUIKnEZ"] I don't understand why this is such "huge ownage" Cerny himself stated it will take multiple years to extract power, this is the same of any new console... It's not like KI is that visually impressive, clearly it's NOT a hardware limitation, rather a hardware implementation issue, like BF4 looking mediocre on the PS4. To give another example, Watch Dogs, looks the same on both next gen consoles, is more visually impressive than KI and it's probably because of Ubi. Personally, the ownage is on the SONY trolls yet again for being such tools.QUIKnEZ

For the PS4, NOT for the Xbox ONE.

Cerny added in tons of ACEs to the last 4 CUs of the PS4's GPU as incentives for devs to use GPGPU processing without taking a graphical hit to the games. There is no such modification on the Xbox ONE's side. In fact, most of the modification on the Xbox ONE's hardware are bandaid solutions to the DDR3 RAM. The Xbox ONE will hit its cap much earlier than the PS4.

Furthermore, there is no proof that Watch Dogs looks the same on both next-gen consoles. Ubisoft have only shown the PS4 version. Same with every single multiplat (With the exception of CoD: Ghosts, which look like ass).

:lol:

3rd parties can play the middle line and do what's best for their bottom lines. Brainless sheep like yourselves can keep believing what you want to hear.

As for me, I'll let the games do the talking. Enjoy your sub-1080p, corridor games with no dynamic lighing, no particle effects, no global illumination. :lol:

How the hell can they not nail 1080p at 60 in a fighting game that looks almost entirely like a slightly upgraded street fighter 4, lol.

How the hell can they not nail 1080p at 60 in a fighting game that looks almost entirely like a slightly upgraded street fighter 4, lol.

ReadingRainbow4

Well, I predicted that the Xbox ONE's GPU is worse than the vanilla AMD 7770. Looks like I was right.

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] well xbox shouldn't need a new engine. Xbox 360 used direct x, xbox one will use direct x. Apart from some new features they both have extremely similar dev envinrontment. They both have a second managed small ram cache (10 on 360, 32 on one). They both have shared memory architecture.QUIKnEZ

But The Crew was ported by 2...2 people. :lol:

Maybe it's because the Xbox ONE is weak. Stop being a fanboy. Time to drink your denial medicine. :lol:

[QUOTE="QUIKnEZ"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"] The rendering pipeline is still different even if its using the same API. You can't just slap a game on a new platform and expect it to work. Like I said, they probably don't have the team or the time to rebuild the core rendering component of the engine. Sonysexual1

But The Crew was ported by 2...2 people. :lol:

Maybe it's because the Xbox ONE is weak. Stop being a fanboy. Time to drink your denial medicine. :lol:

Says to stop being a fanboy, acts like a fanboy :roll:

This thread has convinced me to check out Resogun or whatever it's called.

Anyone wanna know a lil factoid? I have a colleague who made a game as a part of a small team. He's a pretty interesting character, and he managed to make the only game on current gen that runs at 1080p 60fps. It's called Retrograde Shooter, a PS3 title that just recently got brought over to PC. If anyone wants to see 1080p @60 fps on current gen, go check it out.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

But The Crew was ported by 2...2 people. :lol:

Maybe it's because the Xbox ONE is weak. Stop being a fanboy. Time to drink your denial medicine. :lol:

Sonysexual1

Says to stop being a fanboy, acts like a fanboy :roll:

I'm not a fanboy. I preordered a PS4 and shit like this solidifies my belief that I made the right purchase. You have to be an idiot to even consider buying the Xbox ONE and it is in my right to deride those who do buy one. I don't care what you hippy trash say about bullying. Bullying makes people stronger and I consider myself a saint for mentally torturing lemmings.

So, while I'll be playing open-world games with a shitton of next-gen effects and with better graphics than linear games on the Xbox ONE, Xboners will be busy playing corridor games with last-gen graphics and with last-gen effects. :lol:

Wow, what the fvck did I just read? You may need some help

[QUOTE="QUIKnEZ"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"] The rendering pipeline is still different even if its using the same API. You can't just slap a game on a new platform and expect it to work. Like I said, they probably don't have the team or the time to rebuild the core rendering component of the engine. Sonysexual1

But The Crew was ported by 2...2 people. :lol:

Maybe it's because the Xbox ONE is weak. Stop being a fanboy. Time to drink your denial medicine. :lol: