Killlzone 2 - have PS owners been deprived of decent FPS's?

The N64 had Goldeneye, Turok and Perfect Dark.

The xbox had Halo and Riddick.

The 360 of course has GeoW

The PC has had more than its fair share of FPS's.

Is the hype around Killzone 2 from PS owners really born out of the fact they've rarely experienced a decent FPS, or is it deservedly hyped as a benchmark in console gaming?

The N64 had Goldeneye, Turok and Perfect Dark.

The xbox had Halo and Riddidck.

The PC has had more than its fair share of FPS's.

Is the hype around Killzone 2 from PS owners really born out of the fact they've rarely experienced a decent FPS, or is it deservedly hyped as a benchmark in console gaming?

The N64 had Goldeneye, Turok and Perfect Dark.

The xbox had Halo and Riddick.

The 360 of course has GeoW

The PC has had more than its fair share of FPS's.

Is the hype around Killzone 2 from PS owners really born out of the fact they've rarely experienced a decent FPS, or is it deservedly hyped as a benchmark in console gaming?

poptart

The N64 had Goldeneye, Turok and Perfect Dark.

The xbox had Halo and Riddick.

The 360 of course has GeoW

The PC has had more than its fair share of FPS's.

Is the hype around Killzone 2 from PS owners really born out of the fact they've rarely experienced a decent FPS, or is it deservedly hyped as a benchmark in console gaming?

poptart

[QUOTE="poptart"]

The N64 had Goldeneye, Turok and Perfect Dark.

The xbox had Halo and Riddidck.

The PC has had more than its fair share of FPS's.

Is the hype around Killzone 2 from PS owners really born out of the fact they've rarely experienced a decent FPS, or is it deservedly hyped as a benchmark in console gaming?

campzor

I agree, in every other genre it did indeed dominate. Red faction was poor in comparison though and timesplitters a was distinctly old school in comparison to todays shooters. It's never had an involving FPS (prior toR2 of course), like most PC and console owners have experienced... It's great PS3 owners finally have a decent FPS to crow about. I just think the rest of the community are a little bit 'been there - done that'

All console only gamers are deprived of decent FPS's. Arguing console FPS games is like arguing over who's poop stinks less.hhttppp

That's a little harsh. Plugging in Goldeneye for the first time in 97 wasn't a bad experience. Likewise Halo CE on laucnh day was prety spectacular...

Gears isn't a fps. Hmmm to you have a 360 or just the need to add to the list lol.GreyFoXX4

There's little distiniction betwen an FPS and TPS. Come on - we both know that. The only differnece is that you see a head/body on the screen or you don't. The mechanics are the same. Let's not be facetious...

[QUOTE="hhttppp"]All console only gamers are deprived of decent FPS's. Arguing console FPS games is like arguing over who's poop stinks less.poptart

That's a little harsh. Plugging in Goldeneye for the first time in 97 wasn't a bad experience. Likewise Halo CE on laucnh day was prety spectacular...

Yeah I know. I've actually enjoyed my fair share of console shooters. :P I just felt like posting the obligatory hater statement. Goldeneye was great and I was hooked on Halo 2's online play for a good bit. However this gen seems to be more of a wash. CoD4 is one of the more addictive shooters to come around and its multiplat. And honestly I think R1 and definitely R2 offer up a better and fresher experience than Halo 3.

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]Gears isn't a fps. Hmmm to you have a 360 or just the need to add to the list lol.poptart

There's little distiniction betwen an FPS and TPS. Come on - we both know that. The only differnece is that you see a head/body on the screen or you don't. The mechanics are the same. Let's not be facetious...

Resistance 2 /threadStumpt25

My point exactly! I hope KZ2 will be great, although I can't help but feel this exagerated hype is precisely because of the reason you've mentioned - 10 years of PS yet the only relevant FPS is one released within the last month or so.

[QUOTE="Stumpt25"]Resistance 2 /threadpoptart

My point exactly! I hope KZ2 will be great, although I can't help but feel this exagerated hype is precisely because of the reason you've mentioned - 10 years of PS yet the only relevant FPS is one released within the last month or so.

[QUOTE="poptart"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]Gears isn't a fps. Hmmm to you have a 360 or just the need to add to the list lol.splinteh

There's little distiniction betwen an FPS and TPS. Come on - we both know that. The only differnece is that you see a head/body on the screen or you don't. The mechanics are the same. Let's not be facetious...

They both require exactly the same actions, just a differant perspective on the game (i.e either through the eyes or a couple feet back from the head). A differant viewing angle is not a differant genre.

[QUOTE="poptart"]

[QUOTE="hhttppp"]All console only gamers are deprived of decent FPS's. Arguing console FPS games is like arguing over who's poop stinks less.hhttppp

That's a little harsh. Plugging in Goldeneye for the first time in 97 wasn't a bad experience. Likewise Halo CE on laucnh day was prety spectacular...

Yeah I know. I've actually enjoyed my fair share of console shooters. :P I just felt like posting the obligatory hater statement. Goldeneye was great and I was hooked on Halo 2's online play for a good bit. However this gen seems to be more of a wash. CoD4 is one of the more addictive shooters to come around and its multiplat. And honestly I think R1 and definitely R2 offer up a better and fresher experience than Halo 3.

I loved Halo CE, even more so than my little pusscat (squeaky), but between you me and the gatepost, Halo 3 just didn't pump my nads either. Resistence wasn't bad (albeit generic) though I agree, Personally I thought GeoW was a pile o' overproduced hollywood-ised sh*te. I can't help but think re: KZ2, that most 360/PC owners are slightly nonchalant about the whole affair.

It actually is.LightReflection

What is?

[QUOTE="LightReflection"]It actually is.poptart

What is?

um i would think Resistance 1 and Resistance 2 would be considered more than decent.....even though its mostly for Multiplayer,.jg4xchamp

Resistence isn't an H2, Halo or Goldeneye - we both know that. Hopes are firmly planted on KZ2 becoming PS's Goldeneye or Halo, somthing PS owners have missed out on over the last decade.

Most first and third person shooters play similarly, the perspective is the defining factor in determining the genre.LightReflection

Not genre per se, just the viewpoint. Otherwise we could argue that Spcae invaders is of the 'shoot em up' genre, Pacman the 'gobble em up' genre, and frogger the 'hop across the roads on logs' genre

Name one good FPS other than Halo 3 that the 360 has over the PS3 :| Silent-Hal

Perfect Dark Zero:lol:

I kid.

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Name one good FPS other than Halo 3 that the 360 has over the PS3 :| Floppy_Jim

Perfect Dark Zero:lol:

I kid.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Name one good FPS other than Halo 3 that the 360 has over the PS3 :| II_Seraphim_II

Perfect Dark Zero:lol:

I kid.

Ok, I'll stop mocking their "AAAE" game :P

Really though, if we're just looking at FPS's that are developed/published by Sony and MS it's really a case of Resistance 1/2 & Killzone 2 vs Halo 3 and Perfect Dark Zero. I'd probably take Sony's offerings over Microsoft's although I do absolutely love the Halo series.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

Perfect Dark Zero:lol:

I kid.

Floppy_Jim

Ok, I'll stop mocking their "AAAE" game :P

Really though, if we're just looking at FPS's that are developed/published by Sony and MS it's really a case of Resistance 1/2 & Killzone 2 vs Halo 3 and Perfect Dark Zero. I'd probably take Sony's offerings over Microsoft's although I do absolutely love the Halo series.

I'm, not talking neccesarily about the current gen - if you've been an xbox/PC follower since its inception, then you'll be pretty worn out by FPS's That's the one area PS followers have missed out on. R1 was okay, R2 I quite enjoyed, but I can't help but feel its put on a pedestal by PS3 owners due to little competition more than anything else...

Name one good FPS other than Halo 3 that the 360 has over the PS3 :| Silent-Hal

GeoW isn't a bad place to start :|

Name one good FPS other than Halo 3 that the 360 has over the PS3 :| Silent-Hal

I'm, not talking neccesarily about the current gen - if you've been an xbox/PC follower since its inception, then you'll be pretty worn out by FPS's That's the one area PS followers have missed out on. R1 was okay, R2 I quite enjoyed, but I can't help but feel its put on a pedestal by PS3 owners due to little competition more than anything else...

poptart

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Name one good FPS other than Halo 3 that the 360 has over the PS3 :| poptart

GeoW isn't a bad place to start :|

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] Dont joke like that man, fanboys will eat you for dinner :Ppoptart

Ok, I'll stop mocking their "AAAE" game :P

Really though, if we're just looking at FPS's that are developed/published by Sony and MS it's really a case of Resistance 1/2 & Killzone 2 vs Halo 3 and Perfect Dark Zero. I'd probably take Sony's offerings over Microsoft's although I do absolutely love the Halo series.

I'm, not talking neccesarily about the current gen - if you've been an xbox/PC follower since its inception, then you'll be pretty worn out by FPS's That's the one area PS followers have missed out on. R1 was okay, R2 I quite enjoyed, but I can't help but feel its put on a pedestal by PS3 owners due to little competition more than anything else...

Resistance 1, maybe. I think Resistance 2 is geniunely seen as a great FPS regardless of the competition. But I agree that the PS1/2 didn't have any good exlcusive FPS games at all, it's pretty much the only genre they were lacking in. This is one area in which the PS3 beats it's predecessors.

[QUOTE="poptart"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]Name one good FPS other than Halo 3 that the 360 has over the PS3 :| Silent-Hal

GeoW isn't a bad place to start :|

Oh I'm sorry. We'll move the camera 3 feet from the protagonists head and call it differnt genre shall we?

[QUOTE="poptart"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

Ok, I'll stop mocking their "AAAE" game :P

Really though, if we're just looking at FPS's that are developed/published by Sony and MS it's really a case of Resistance 1/2 & Killzone 2 vs Halo 3 and Perfect Dark Zero. I'd probably take Sony's offerings over Microsoft's although I do absolutely love the Halo series.

Floppy_Jim

I'm, not talking neccesarily about the current gen - if you've been an xbox/PC follower since its inception, then you'll be pretty worn out by FPS's That's the one area PS followers have missed out on. R1 was okay, R2 I quite enjoyed, but I can't help but feel its put on a pedestal by PS3 owners due to little competition more than anything else...

Resistance 1, maybe. I think Resistance 2 is genuinely seen as a great FPS regardless of the competition. But I agree that the PS1/2 didn't have any good exlcusive FPS games at all, it's pretty much the only genre they were lacking in. This is one area in which the PS3 beats it's predecessors.

That's my point - its precisely because the PS3 has a new found experience in FPS's, are we putting KZ2 on too high a pedestal when the rest of the market simply views it at as 'just another FPS'?.

The N64 had Goldeneye, Turok and Perfect Dark.

The xbox had Halo and Riddidck.

The PC has had more than its fair share of FPS's.

Is the hype around Killzone 2 from PS owners really born out of the fact they've rarely experienced a decent FPS, or is it deservedly hyped as a benchmark in console gaming?

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="poptart"]

I'm, not talking neccesarily about the current gen - if you've been an xbox/PC follower since its inception, then you'll be pretty worn out by FPS's That's the one area PS followers have missed out on. R1 was okay, R2 I quite enjoyed, but I can't help but feel its put on a pedestal by PS3 owners due to little competition more than anything else...

poptart

Resistance 1, maybe. I think Resistance 2 is genuinely seen as a great FPS regardless of the competition. But I agree that the PS1/2 didn't have any good exlcusive FPS games at all, it's pretty much the only genre they were lacking in. This is one area in which the PS3 beats it's predecessors.

That's my point - its precisely because the PS3 has a new found experience in FPS's, are we putting KZ2 on too high a pedestal when the rest of the market simply views it at as 'just another FPS'?.

But there are many non-exclusives FPS on the PS3, that are competition for exclusive tittles.

[QUOTE="poptart"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

Resistance 1, maybe. I think Resistance 2 is genuinely seen as a great FPS regardless of the competition. But I agree that the PS1/2 didn't have any good exlcusive FPS games at all, it's pretty much the only genre they were lacking in. This is one area in which the PS3 beats it's predecessors.

DarkyC

That's my point - its precisely because the PS3 has a new found experience in FPS's, are we putting KZ2 on too high a pedestal when the rest of the market simply views it at as 'just another FPS'?.

But there are many non-exclusives FPS on the PS3, that are competition for exclusive tittles.

...but its never had a goldeneye or Halo. The PS has long wanted an exclusive 'halo killer'. That's been its weak spot. Are we putting too much hope in KZ2? It seems so. To PS owners it seems to be like the second coming...

[QUOTE="DarkyC"][QUOTE="poptart"]

That's my point - its precisely because the PS3 has a new found experience in FPS's, are we putting KZ2 on too high a pedestal when the rest of the market simply views it at as 'just another FPS'?.

poptart

But there are many non-exclusives FPS on the PS3, that are competition for exclusive tittles.

...but its never had a goldeneye or Halo. The PS has long wanted an exclusive 'halo killer'. That's been its weak spot. Are we putting too much hope in KZ2? It seems so. To PS owners it seems to be like the second coming...

It's a COD4, Bioshock and HL:E2, all of them the best of the FPS genre.

[QUOTE="poptart"][QUOTE="Silent-Hal"] GeoW also isn't an FPS. Try again. Silent-Hal

So when I play GRAW and I switch between first and third person perspective its a differant genre? No not even a differant game!!!?? But a whole differnt genre in itself!!!!!!!!!!!!???????? Well bugger me backwards... You learn something differant every day..................

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="poptart"]

GeoW isn't a bad place to start :|

poptart

Oh I'm sorry. We'll move the camera 3 feet from the protagonists head and call it differnt genre shall we?

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="poptart"][QUOTE="Silent-Hal"] GeoW also isn't an FPS. Try again. poptart

So when I play GRAW and I switch between first and third person perspective its a differant genre? No not even a differant game!!!?? But a whole differnt genre in itself!!!!!!!!!!!!???????? Well bugger me backwards... You learn something differant every day..................

It is a different genre. If you're going to use that ridiculous logic we might as well call MGS4 an FPS and make this thread null and void.Silent-Hal

So when I play GRAW and I switch between first and third person perspective its a differant genre? No not even a differant game!!!?? But a whole differnt genre in itself!!!!!!!!!!!!???????? Well bugger me backwards... You learn something differant every day..................

[QUOTE="poptart"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"] It is a different genre. If you're going to use that ridiculous logic we might as well call MGS4 an FPS and make this thread null and void.Silent-Hal

So when I play GRAW and I switch between first and third person perspective its a differant genre? No not even a differant game!!!?? But a whole differnt genre in itself!!!!!!!!!!!!???????? Well bugger me backwards... You learn something differant every day..................

I played GRAW in first person perspective. I did a little in 3rd also. My point mentioning GRAW was that by your own definition I played the sames game but in 2 differant genres. Am i wrong?

Third Person Shooter is Different from FPS. GeoW is not an FPS...AT ALL.rogerjak

Nope you're right. It's as differant as wii tennis and monopoly. What was I thinking!!?? I feel like a right n*bhead.