KillZone 1 (beep) before, so what made you think we wanted more ?

"...instead you offer Killzone 2. But KillZone 1 sucked before, so what made you think we wanted more ? "

what francises fist game sucked but the second game rocked ?

DMC3>DMC2

MGS3>MGS2

While it wasn't the first one, GTA3 > GTA2. Furthermore, while it's not quite the same, Killzone: Liberation was a SIGNIFICANT improvement in terms of game quality, so perhaps Guerrilla can nail this one as well.

Better than a franchise going downhill, like Halo 1 > Halo 2.  

MGS3>MGS2

BioShockOwnz

Hell no!!!!!! 

Killzone is still one of my favorite FPS shooter experiences on the ps2. And one of my favorite single player experiences of last generation.

It does not compare to Half life 2, or FEAR, but it was fun and I enjoyed it so much I beat it three times.

Grand Theft Auto wasn't that great before GTAIII.

KZII could be good. Let's hope that 120 dev team + 21 million budget = a great game. 

Killzone is still one of my favorite FPS shooter experiences on the ps2. And one of my favorite single player experiences of last generation.

It does not compare to Half life 2, or FEAR, but it was fun and I enjoyed it so much I beat it three times.

ish_gibbor

Can't agree more..Killzone was great. It might of fell short due to the outdated hardware but this time..anythings possible. Should be good.

[QUOTE="ish_gibbor"]

Killzone is still one of my favorite FPS shooter experiences on the ps2. And one of my favorite single player experiences of last generation.

It does not compare to Half life 2, or FEAR, but it was fun and I enjoyed it so much I beat it three times.

-Maddog-

Can't agree more..Killzone was great. It might of fell short due to the outdated hardware but this time..anythings possible. Should be good.

Blame it on the outdated hardware, how come there are many grate ps2 games made after the point of KZ one?

"...instead you offer Killzone 2. But KillZone 1 sucked before, so what made you think we wanted more ? "

what francises fist game sucked but the second game rocked ?

Ryuhayabuza

Devil May Cry 2 sucked and 3 made up for 2's lack. Killzone 1 was a great game, it was just overhyped, and for a game that sold 4 million copies, I wouldnt call it a bad game just because of a score gamespot gave it. The next killzone will be a success. It may not be a halo killer but one thing I did think the first killzone had over halo was the story and single player, was better. Just the game had alot of problems do to the hardware not being able to run such a game.

[QUOTE="Ryuhayabuza"]

"...instead you offer Killzone 2. But KillZone 1 sucked before, so what made you think we wanted more ? "

what francises fist game sucked but the second game rocked ?

squallff8_fan

Devil May Cry 2 sucked and 3 made up for 2's lack. Killzone 1 was a great game, it was just overhyped, and for a game that sold 4 million copies, I wouldnt call it a bad game just because of a score gamespot gave it. The next killzone will be a success. It may not be a halo killer but one thing I did think the first killzone had over halo was the story and single player, was better. Just the game had alot of problems do to the hardware not being able to run such a game.

[QUOTE="-Maddog-"][QUOTE="ish_gibbor"]

Killzone is still one of my favorite FPS shooter experiences on the ps2. And one of my favorite single player experiences of last generation.

It does not compare to Half life 2, or FEAR, but it was fun and I enjoyed it so much I beat it three times.

Marka1700

Can't agree more..Killzone was great. It might of fell short due to the outdated hardware but this time..anythings possible. Should be good.

Blame it on the outdated hardware, how come there are many grate ps2 games made after the point of KZ one?

In FPS?? lol, barly any...besides black, which wasn't anything special. Killzone Did look decent..but the bugs and some serious graphical hiccups held it back..lets not forget that guirella arn't that experienced....But now they have learnt alot and the dev team is alot bigger...they will leanrt from there mistakes IMO. Hardwares there...alot more cash is involved..its a bigger project. It will have to be alot better, hopefully. 

You know why people want more from killzone??

Its the setting, if anything Killzone has great potential because it could be epic.

They ****** up last time because you fought with a 4 man team half of the game... and it looked lame that a 4 team army beats an army of more then 100 helghast.

What they must do is make it total warfare between the two races instead of that ''special ops'' crap.

Oh and the people who say: DMC3 >>> DMC2. remember that DMC1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DMC3>>>DMC2 ;)

You know why people want more from killzone??

Its the setting, if anything Killzone has great potential because it could be epic.

They ****** up last time because you fought with a 4 man team half of the game... and it looked lame that a 4 team army beats an army of more then 100 helghast.

What they must do is make it total warfare between the two races instead of that ''special ops'' crap.

MasterBeebo

*claps* well said. The game can be epic when u think about it..the whole helgast setting etc etc...could make for a killer game.  

[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="Ryuhayabuza"]

"...instead you offer Killzone 2. But KillZone 1 sucked before, so what made you think we wanted more ? "

what francises fist game sucked but the second game rocked ?

pundog

Devil May Cry 2 sucked and 3 made up for 2's lack. Killzone 1 was a great game, it was just overhyped, and for a game that sold 4 million copies, I wouldnt call it a bad game just because of a score gamespot gave it. The next killzone will be a success. It may not be a halo killer but one thing I did think the first killzone had over halo was the story and single player, was better. Just the game had alot of problems do to the hardware not being able to run such a game.

Yes but still 4 million copies is alot for a game that didnt get such a high score. I mean there are big name titles that are AAA that dont even sell 4 million copies.

[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="Ryuhayabuza"]

"...instead you offer Killzone 2. But KillZone 1 sucked before, so what made you think we wanted more ? "

what francises fist game sucked but the second game rocked ?

pundog

Devil May Cry 2 sucked and 3 made up for 2's lack. Killzone 1 was a great game, it was just overhyped, and for a game that sold 4 million copies, I wouldnt call it a bad game just because of a score gamespot gave it. The next killzone will be a success. It may not be a halo killer but one thing I did think the first killzone had over halo was the story and single player, was better. Just the game had alot of problems do to the hardware not being able to run such a game.

wow killzone  at 4% is 5 million
gears of war at 40% is also 4 million
did u expect killzone to sell 50 million copies or somthing?
think before u post

[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="Ryuhayabuza"]

"...instead you offer Killzone 2. But KillZone 1 sucked before, so what made you think we wanted more ? "

what francises fist game sucked but the second game rocked ?

pundog

Devil May Cry 2 sucked and 3 made up for 2's lack. Killzone 1 was a great game, it was just overhyped, and for a game that sold 4 million copies, I wouldnt call it a bad game just because of a score gamespot gave it. The next killzone will be a success. It may not be a halo killer but one thing I did think the first killzone had over halo was the story and single player, was better. Just the game had alot of problems do to the hardware not being able to run such a game.

So because PS2 had a very varied userbase and lots of hardware sold... thats bad? right.... right... even though, the top selling game on the platform still got less than a 10% attach rate..so we should probably consider GTA:SA a flop too... 

go read the killzone review they basically say it failed because of the graphical glitches and frame rate issues

killzone was AAA worthy when it came to online play but failed BADLY in the campaign mode.

with the ps3 theyll be able to achieve more hopefully. even if the story mode flops for kz2 the multiplayer will be AAA if they stick to how killzone 1 was in that department.

Halo 2 was disappointing to a lot of people.

And yet I don't see dampened enthusiasm for Halo 3

[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="Ryuhayabuza"]

"...instead you offer Killzone 2. But KillZone 1 sucked before, so what made you think we wanted more ? "

what francises fist game sucked but the second game rocked ?

pundog

Devil May Cry 2 sucked and 3 made up for 2's lack. Killzone 1 was a great game, it was just overhyped, and for a game that sold 4 million copies, I wouldnt call it a bad game just because of a score gamespot gave it. The next killzone will be a success. It may not be a halo killer but one thing I did think the first killzone had over halo was the story and single player, was better. Just the game had alot of problems do to the hardware not being able to run such a game.

"...instead you offer Killzone 2. But KillZone 1 sucked before, so what made you think we wanted more ? "

what francises fist game sucked but the second game rocked ?

Ryuhayabuza

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

MGS3>MGS2

albi321

Hell no!!!!!! 

Hell yes, and most reviews reflect that.

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="Ryuhayabuza"]

"...instead you offer Killzone 2. But KillZone 1 sucked before, so what made you think we wanted more ? "

what francises fist game sucked but the second game rocked ?

Jack-Napier

Devil May Cry 2 sucked and 3 made up for 2's lack. Killzone 1 was a great game, it was just overhyped, and for a game that sold 4 million copies, I wouldnt call it a bad game just because of a score gamespot gave it. The next killzone will be a success. It may not be a halo killer but one thing I did think the first killzone had over halo was the story and single player, was better. Just the game had alot of problems do to the hardware not being able to run such a game.

Maybe that's because the PS2 had no exclusive shooters that were worth buying.

[QUOTE="Ryuhayabuza"]

"...instead you offer Killzone 2. But KillZone 1 sucked before, so what made you think we wanted more ? "

what francises fist game sucked but the second game rocked ?

kemar7856

Halo 3 and Killzone 2 should be good, common cows please hype killzone 2 PLEASE!!

[QUOTE="Jack-Napier"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="squallff8_fan"][QUOTE="Ryuhayabuza"]

"...instead you offer Killzone 2. But KillZone 1 sucked before, so what made you think we wanted more ? "

what francises fist game sucked but the second game rocked ?

BioShockOwnz

Devil May Cry 2 sucked and 3 made up for 2's lack. Killzone 1 was a great game, it was just overhyped, and for a game that sold 4 million copies, I wouldnt call it a bad game just because of a score gamespot gave it. The next killzone will be a success. It may not be a halo killer but one thing I did think the first killzone had over halo was the story and single player, was better. Just the game had alot of problems do to the hardware not being able to run such a game.

Maybe that's because the PS2 had no exclusive shooters that were worth buying.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

MGS3>MGS2

albi321

Hell no!!!!!!

amen. MGS 2 4 lyfe! 

DMC3>DMC2

MGS3>MGS2

BioShockOwnz

Yeah but DMC1>DMC2, so whose to say Killzone won't follow that pattern?

Seriously... when's the last time we saw a mediocre game come out with an amazing sequel?  This is an honest question... I can't think of one.

DMC3>DMC2

MGS3>MGS2

BioShockOwnz

looks like cows doesnt know what first means, oh well 

MGS4 ? MGS3 > MGS2 > MGS1, we know what's going to happen. Metal Gear sequal always surpass the previous Metal Gear.darkmanure

DMC3>DMC2

MGS3>MGS2

BioShockOwnz

He asked what franchises FIRST game...and you list sequels... 

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

DMC3>DMC2

MGS3>MGS2

Phanrang

looks like cows doesnt know what first means, oh well 

Looks like someone doesn't know what a cow is.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

DMC3>DMC2

MGS3>MGS2

rappid_rabbit

He asked what franchises FIRST game...and you list sequels... 

Yup, my mistake. I just read the thread header. Or maybe I didn't understand what "fist" meant.

DMC3>DMC2

MGS3>MGS2

BioShockOwnz

wow, way to spin that one buddy

MGS>>>>>>MGS2

DMC>>>>>>DMC2 

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

DMC3>DMC2

MGS3>MGS2

ApocalypseXIVV

wow, way to spin that one buddy

MGS>>>>>>MGS2

DMC>>>>>>DMC2 

Haha, I wasn't trying to spin anything. I don't like either the DMC series or MGS series.

Grand Theft Auto wasn't that great before GTAIII.

KZII could be good. Let's hope that 120 dev team + 21 million budget = a great game.

the-very-best

WHAT? Grand theft auto wasnt that good? at the time that came out that game was amazin what r u on? 

[QUOTE="Phanrang"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

DMC3>DMC2

MGS3>MGS2

BioShockOwnz

looks like cows doesnt know what first means, oh well 

Looks like someone doesn't know what a cow is.

Yeah, you aren't a cow... god I hate these stupid animal names everyone uses.  You simply own a PS3 and hope that Killzone 2 is good.  And it may be.  I'd be surprised if it were worse than the 1st game.  But it may be about the same in terms of quality, which is NOT good.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Grand Theft Auto wasn't that great before GTAIII.

KZII could be good. Let's hope that 120 dev team + 21 million budget = a great game.

ApocalypseXIVV

WHAT? Grand theft auto wasnt that good? at the time that came out that game was amazin what r u on? 

GTA was okay, but GTAIII brought the series to the mainstream, and was hands down one of the best open world games to date.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Phanrang"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

DMC3>DMC2

MGS3>MGS2

donalbane

looks like cows doesnt know what first means, oh well 

Looks like someone doesn't know what a cow is.

Yeah, you aren't a cow... god I hate these stupid animal names everyone uses.  You simply own a PS3 and hope that Killzone 2 is good.  And it may be.  I'd be surprised if it were worse than the 1st game.  But it may be about the same in terms of quality, which is NOT good.

Haha, I also hate the animal names, it seems very childish, but I don't expect much out of System Wars.

I want to hope Killzone 2 (or is it 3) is good, but I didn't like Killzone on the PS2 at all. It was boring and just very uninteresting. But I thought the PSP version was even worse. I didn't like the birds eye view. It just took any of the intensity that the original had away.

[QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Grand Theft Auto wasn't that great before GTAIII.

KZII could be good. Let's hope that 120 dev team + 21 million budget = a great game.

BioShockOwnz

WHAT? Grand theft auto wasnt that good? at the time that came out that game was amazin what r u on?

GTA was okay, but GTAIII brought the series to the mainstream, and was hands down one of the best open world games to date.

 U cant compare GTA I and II with III, theres different game types, thats like saying the MARIO nes was ok but the mario 64 made mario big, GTA III was great and would have been a good start to the series, but it came from I and II and without them making those, III wouldnt have been as good

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Grand Theft Auto wasn't that great before GTAIII.

KZII could be good. Let's hope that 120 dev team + 21 million budget = a great game.

ApocalypseXIVV

WHAT? Grand theft auto wasnt that good? at the time that came out that game was amazin what r u on?

GTA was okay, but GTAIII brought the series to the mainstream, and was hands down one of the best open world games to date.

 U cant compare GTA I and II with III, theres different game types, thats like saying the MARIO nes was ok but the mario 64 made mario big, GTA III was great and would have been a good start to the series, but it came from I and II and without them making those, III wouldnt have been as good

How were they different games? Going from birdseye view to 3D doesn't mean it's a different game. You can compare them, because they are in the same genre and it's the same series.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

MGS3>MGS2

albi321

Hell no!!!!!!

Definitely not...