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#1 DoctorBunny
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Confirmed.. Ouch after all the halo 3 bashing for it being 30fps
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#2 Albanian_Killa
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Yeah, the Alpha could be 720p, 30FPS, but it's not final yet.
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#3 NFJSupreme
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but the PS3 can run at 120 FPS in 1080p using Unreal Engine 8.5 while running as a server for the internet!!!
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#4 dhjohns
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Confirmed.. Ouch after all the halo 3 bashing for it being 30fpsDoctorBunny

In all fairness that is in its current build. There is still time to tweak. Also, if the game content and graphics shape up to the hype (not saying it will or won't) than 30 fps and 720 is more than fine.

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#5 inertk
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So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

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#6 guts32
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So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

inertk

Well said. :lol:

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Nice comparing a game in it-s pre-alpha/alpha/beta not finished state with something that'll be released very soon. Nice logic.
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lol, but the lighting.... seriously though who cares.
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So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

inertk

if you would have seen the latest Halo3 campaign videos, you'd know now that 30fps isn't what it's running at. I'm curious as to where the power of the PS3 has gone. What ever happend to dual 1080p display at 120fps? :lol: Seems so far that it's max'd out at 720p at 30fps...:lol:

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but the PS3 can run at 120 FPS in 1080p using Unreal Engine 8.5 while running as a server for the internet!!!NFJSupreme
in 4d!
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#11 themyth01
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So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

inertk

But wasn't the Killzone 2 supposed to be technically superior?? you're right it's not, in fact the new Halo 3 videos prove it looks sharper. KZ2 isn't any technical marvel.

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#12 Albanian_Killa
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[QUOTE="inertk"]

So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

Nedemis

if you would have seen the latest Halo3 campaign videos, you'd know now that 30fps isn't what it's running at. I'm curious as to where the power of the PS3 has gone. What ever happend to dual 1080p display at 120fps? :lol: Seems so far that it's max'd out at 720p at 30fps...:lol:

Seems you don't know about games that are tweaked and are in Alpha. IGN was also playing on a 720p TV. How can they do 1080p???

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but the PS3 can run at 120 FPS in 1080p using Unreal Engine 8.5 while running as a server for the internet!!!NFJSupreme

it's funny, but that's what cows were saying last year...

and how EVERY ps3 game would be 60fps by default...:roll:

for $600, you'd think they could do better.... but apparently not....

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#14 inertk
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[QUOTE="inertk"]

So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

Nedemis

if you would have seen the latest Halo3 campaign videos, you'd know now that 30fps isn't what it's running at. I'm curious as to where the power of the PS3 has gone. What ever happend to dual 1080p display at 120fps? :lol: Seems so far that it's max'd out at 720p at 30fps...:lol:

Did anyone say the game was running at 30? Or are you assuming there's the room for assumption?

Even though Lair probably won't score well here, I haven't seen a 360 game on the same technical level, running natively at 1080p too although I suppose that means nothing to you.

One thing I do know is, both games are equally inferior technically, that's why both of them are stuck at 30 and are rendered a 720p. Right?

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Cows bring 90% of their ownage on themselves. Honestly, did nobody think to maybe not bash Halo 3 as "last gen" for being 30fps, cause y'know.... maybe some PS3 game might be 30fps too?

*sigh*

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[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="inertk"]

So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

Albanian_Killa

if you would have seen the latest Halo3 campaign videos, you'd know now that 30fps isn't what it's running at. I'm curious as to where the power of the PS3 has gone. What ever happend to dual 1080p display at 120fps? :lol: Seems so far that it's max'd out at 720p at 30fps...:lol:

Seems you don't know about games that are tweaked and are in Alpha. IGN was also playing on a 720p TV. How can they do 1080p???

So what FPS would it run at on 1080p, seeing how 720p can only handle 30fps maxed?

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#17 therealmcc0y
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KZ2 is still like 6 months from completion, halo 3 looked like halo 2.5 6 months ago and now it looks very good, imagine what kz2 will look like
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#18 inertk
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[QUOTE="inertk"]

So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

themyth01

But wasn't the Killzone 2 supposed to be technically superior?? you're right it's not, in fact the new Halo 3 videos prove it looks sharper. KZ2 isn't any technical marvel.

How is it technically superior? Sharper. Hmm, oh you've convinced me completely.

Halo 3 is so sharp. Killzone looks sharp, but not as sharp I would imagine - Wow I never knew how easy it was to decide on which game looked superior. Other than that, I never knew that framerate+resolutions were so critical to a game's appearance and acclaim graphically.

Because there's a game that runs at 30.. 720 native.. And is considered the best looking game out.. What is it again....

Oh yeah, Gears of War. Wow, they're all equally inferior.

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#19 DoctorBunny
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KZ2 is still like 6 months from completion, halo 3 looked like halo 2.5 6 months ago and now it looks very good, imagine what kz2 will look liketherealmcc0y

Actually the multiplayer did. Multiplayer never looks good as the single player, which wasn't shown off.

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#20 Nedemis
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[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="inertk"]

So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

inertk

if you would have seen the latest Halo3 campaign videos, you'd know now that 30fps isn't what it's running at. I'm curious as to where the power of the PS3 has gone. What ever happend to dual 1080p display at 120fps? :lol: Seems so far that it's max'd out at 720p at 30fps...:lol:

Did anyone say the game was running at 30? Or are you assuming there's the room for assumption?

Even though Lair probably won't score well here, I haven't seen a 360 game on the same technical level, running natively at 1080p too although I suppose that means nothing to you.

One thing I do know is, both games are equally inferior technically, that's why both of them are stuck at 30 and are rendered a 720p. Right?

as I posted before, Halo3 has obviously received a huge boast in the framerate. I don't care about Lair and all the other crappy titles coming out on the PS3. The PS3 hasn't shown me one bit that it's superior to the 360 and that the price tag is justified. We already know that the GPU in the PS3 is inferior to the 360's and that the 360 has the edge RAM wise (like it or not, but the PS3 hits a bottleneck when trying to combine both sets of RAM for one purpose).

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#21 dubvisions
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but the PS3 can run at 120 FPS in 1080p using Unreal Engine 8.5 while running as a server for the internet!!!NFJSupreme

And the 360 can too, right? I know, I know. Sony made those claims. It still doesn't change the fact that 360 has no more power to do hugher frame rates than does the PS3.
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#22 inertk
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[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="inertk"]

So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

Nedemis

if you would have seen the latest Halo3 campaign videos, you'd know now that 30fps isn't what it's running at. I'm curious as to where the power of the PS3 has gone. What ever happend to dual 1080p display at 120fps? :lol: Seems so far that it's max'd out at 720p at 30fps...:lol:

Did anyone say the game was running at 30? Or are you assuming there's the room for assumption?

Even though Lair probably won't score well here, I haven't seen a 360 game on the same technical level, running natively at 1080p too although I suppose that means nothing to you.

One thing I do know is, both games are equally inferior technically, that's why both of them are stuck at 30 and are rendered a 720p. Right?

as I posted before, Halo3 has obviously received a huge boast in the framerate. I don't care about Lair and all the other crappy titles coming out on the PS3. The PS3 hasn't shown me one bit that it's superior to the 360 and that the price tag is justified. We already know that the GPU in the PS3 is inferior to the 360's and that the 360 has the edge RAM wise (like it or not, but the PS3 hits a bottleneck when trying to combine both sets of RAM for one purpose).

Why are you rambling on for, I said I haven't seen a game on the same technical level or scale as Lair on the 360, running at 1080p native. Feel free to disagree with me, but bringing price or RAM into this just seems a tad off-topic. Wouldn't you agree? But hey, if I was to say I don't care about Halo 3 and the 360's crappy games would that automatically discredit any technical merit? Of course not, try to be objective.

Back on to the point. Do you have an actual source for Halo 3 running at 60 or are you just assuming that from the videos? Because here's the thing... In a SP playthrough that Gamersyde had recorded Frankie said the game was running at 30, the beta ran at 30, prior Halo games ran at 30.

What exactly makes you think that the game is running at 60? Specifically please.

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[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="inertk"]

So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

inertk

if you would have seen the latest Halo3 campaign videos, you'd know now that 30fps isn't what it's running at. I'm curious as to where the power of the PS3 has gone. What ever happend to dual 1080p display at 120fps? :lol: Seems so far that it's max'd out at 720p at 30fps...:lol:

Did anyone say the game was running at 30? Or are you assuming there's the room for assumption?

Even though Lair probably won't score well here, I haven't seen a 360 game on the same technical level, running natively at 1080p too although I suppose that means nothing to you.

One thing I do know is, both games are equally inferior technically, that's why both of them are stuck at 30 and are rendered a 720p. Right?

honestly we need to stop with all these stupid numbers

here is my understanding of games

if a game runs at 720 or 1080 and it sucks....well, it sucks! don't buy it!

if a game runs at 720 or 1080 and its good....well, run to the nearest video game store and rejoice in its glory.

oh life can be so simple sometimes.

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#24 inertk
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[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="inertk"]

So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

LEGEND_C4A

if you would have seen the latest Halo3 campaign videos, you'd know now that 30fps isn't what it's running at. I'm curious as to where the power of the PS3 has gone. What ever happend to dual 1080p display at 120fps? :lol: Seems so far that it's max'd out at 720p at 30fps...:lol:

Did anyone say the game was running at 30? Or are you assuming there's the room for assumption?

Even though Lair probably won't score well here, I haven't seen a 360 game on the same technical level, running natively at 1080p too although I suppose that means nothing to you.

One thing I do know is, both games are equally inferior technically, that's why both of them are stuck at 30 and are rendered a 720p. Right?

honestly we need to stop with all these stupid numbers

here is my understanding of games

if a game runs at 720 or 1080 and it sucks....well, it sucks! don't buy it!

if a game runs at 720 or 1080 and its good....well, run to the nearest video game store and rejoice in its glory.

oh life can be so simple sometimes.

I could care less about the resolution of any game, I've got a 720p HDTV the rest is completely pointless to me. Framerate, as long as it's stable I don't care but depending on the type of game 60 can help - example fighters, twitch shooters. It's always nice to have a higher framerate, but it's not always fundamental.

However, the only reason I'm doing this is because people are quick to jump on one game because of something like this, despite the fact that their own games run in a similar fashion.

Btw in case you didn't notice - I'm being sarcastic when I talk about them being inferior.

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#25 Ninja-Vox
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inertk, i think you're missing the point here. It's simply that cows were bashing the hell out of Halo 3 the other day (legalize got the ball rolling, as always) on how the game wasn't "next gen" because it ran in 720p and 30fps. Now Killzone has been announced to do the same, and inevitably cows are somewhat owned as by their very definition 30fps apparently just isn't good enough.
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[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]but the PS3 can run at 120 FPS in 1080p using Unreal Engine 8.5 while running as a server for the internet!!!OGTiago
in 4d!

And then, and only then, can real time weapon change be achieved!

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inertk, i think you're missing the point here. It's simply that cows were bashing the hell out of Halo 3 the other day (legalize got the ball rolling, as always) on how the game wasn't "next gen" because it ran in 720p and 30fps. Now Killzone has been announced to do the same, and inevitably cows are somewhat owned as by their very definition 30fps apparently just isn't good enough.Ninja-Vox
Didn't the same thing happen to UT3?
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#28 LosDaddie
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Cows bring 90% of their ownage on themselves. Honestly, did nobody think to maybe not bash Halo 3 as "last gen" for being 30fps, cause y'know.... maybe some PS3 game might be 30fps too?

*sigh*

Ninja-Vox

That's why I don't feel sorry for Sony or cows at all. I have never seen such trash talking before.

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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="inertk"]

So now we're going to bash Killzone 2 for running at the same resolution+framerate as Halo 3....

inertk

if you would have seen the latest Halo3 campaign videos, you'd know now that 30fps isn't what it's running at. I'm curious as to where the power of the PS3 has gone. What ever happend to dual 1080p display at 120fps? :lol: Seems so far that it's max'd out at 720p at 30fps...:lol:

Did anyone say the game was running at 30? Or are you assuming there's the room for assumption?

Even though Lair probably won't score well here, I haven't seen a 360 game on the same technical level, running natively at 1080p too although I suppose that means nothing to you.

One thing I do know is, both games are equally inferior technically, that's why both of them are stuck at 30 and are rendered a 720p. Right?

honestly we need to stop with all these stupid numbers

here is my understanding of games

if a game runs at 720 or 1080 and it sucks....well, it sucks! don't buy it!

if a game runs at 720 or 1080 and its good....well, run to the nearest video game store and rejoice in its glory.

oh life can be so simple sometimes.

I could care less about the resolution of any game, I've got a 720p HDTV the rest is completely pointless to me. Framerate, as long as it's stable I don't care but depending on the type of game 60 can help - example fighters, twitch shooters. It's always nice to have a higher framerate, but it's not always fundamental.

However, the only reason I'm doing this is because people are quick to jump on one game because of something like this, despite the fact that their own games run in a similar fashion.

Btw in case you didn't notice - I'm being sarcastic when I talk about them being inferior.

in no way was I attacking you, I hope you didnt take it that way. just saying that in the end, as long as the game is good, I could care less, I just want to have fun and enjoy games, i'm on vacation right now and when I get home i'm going straight to my 360 with Bioshock,which I just might pick up here in virginia on my way home, lol I'm not even going to unpack!

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#30 inertk
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inertk, i think you're missing the point here. It's simply that cows were bashing the hell out of Halo 3 the other day (legalize got the ball rolling, as always) on how the game wasn't "next gen" because it ran in 720p and 30fps. Now Killzone has been announced to do the same, and inevitably cows are somewhat owned as by their very definition 30fps apparently just isn't good enough.Ninja-Vox

So what, we should agree with him. If that was the case, neither game would be next gen and neither would about 90% of games released so far. But here's the thing I'm not part of the "cows" but I do consider lemmings to be at fault because of the entire Madden thing.

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#31 inertk
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in no way was I attacking you, I hope you didnt take it that way. just saying that in the end, as long as the game is good, I could care less, I just want to have fun and enjoy games, i'm on vacation right now and when I get home i'm going straight to my 360 with Bioshock,which I just might pick up here in virginia on my way home, lol I'm not even going to unpack!

LEGEND_C4A

Heh, I used to play Counterstrike Source - probably averaging 15-20 frames. I had a blast playing it, even got so good at it that when I would play Counterstrike with a smooth framerate I couldn't play as well haha.

I understand what you mean. I was attacking you either, I think I come across as cold on the internet. I'm not sure.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]inertk, i think you're missing the point here. It's simply that cows were bashing the hell out of Halo 3 the other day (legalize got the ball rolling, as always) on how the game wasn't "next gen" because it ran in 720p and 30fps. Now Killzone has been announced to do the same, and inevitably cows are somewhat owned as by their very definition 30fps apparently just isn't good enough.inertk

So what, we should agree with him. If that was the case, neither game would be next gen and neither would about 90% of games released so far. But here's the thing I'm not part of the "cows" but I do consider lemmings to be at fault because of the entire Madden thing.

What Madden thing?

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I don't think it matters as long as the framerate is doesn't hitch. Makin fun of Halo 3 about it was dumb too. So cows know that, "what goes around come back around... I shoulda told ya hey."

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#34 inertk
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[QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]inertk, i think you're missing the point here. It's simply that cows were bashing the hell out of Halo 3 the other day (legalize got the ball rolling, as always) on how the game wasn't "next gen" because it ran in 720p and 30fps. Now Killzone has been announced to do the same, and inevitably cows are somewhat owned as by their very definition 30fps apparently just isn't good enough.LosDaddie

So what, we should agree with him. If that was the case, neither game would be next gen and neither would about 90% of games released so far. But here's the thing I'm not part of the "cows" but I do consider lemmings to be at fault because of the entire Madden thing.

What Madden thing?

Madden 60 on the 360, 30 on the PS3 as well as other EA sports titles.

Lemmings made a big deal out of it. Some *minority* would even act as if anything below 60 was beneath them and unplayable even, despite the fact the previous Madden games ran at 30 on the 360.

Everything in System Wars is a cycle, if lemmings didn't make a big deal out of Madden, those cows wouldn't retaliate with Halo and now people wouldn't have to retaliate with Killzone 2. I'm sure Haze+UT3 fit in here somewhere too.

It probably goes even further back than that, but I haven't been here that long. Funnily enough, I doubt most people can't even tell the difference between the two.

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#35 LosDaddie
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Madden 60 on the 360, 30 on the PS3 as well as other EA sports titles.

Lemmings made a big deal out of it. Some *minority* would even act as if anything below 60 was beneath them and unplayable even, despite the fact the previous Madden games ran at 30 on the 360.inertk

Why yes, here in SW, it's fair game to brag about one ofthe biggest, best-selling games of the year (Madden) running 2x better on your console. That is what SW is all about.

Everything in System Wars is a cycle, if lemmings didn't make a big deal out of Madden, those cows wouldn't retaliate with Halo and now people wouldn't have to retaliate with Killzone 2. I'm sure Haze+UT3 fit in here somewhere too.

inertk

Get real.

Cows have been bashing Halo since 2001. Implying they only started bashing Halo because Lems bashed 30FPS for Madden08 is just ignoring reality. And quite laughable.

You claim to not be a cow, but you sure are defending them like a cow.

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#36 Ninja-Vox
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]inertk, i think you're missing the point here. It's simply that cows were bashing the hell out of Halo 3 the other day (legalize got the ball rolling, as always) on how the game wasn't "next gen" because it ran in 720p and 30fps. Now Killzone has been announced to do the same, and inevitably cows are somewhat owned as by their very definition 30fps apparently just isn't good enough.inertk

So what, we should agree with him. If that was the case, neither game would be next gen and neither would about 90% of games released so far. But here's the thing I'm not part of the "cows" but I do consider lemmings to be at fault because of the entire Madden thing.

Of course we shouldn't agree with him. Nobody is saying that Killzone sucks because it's 30fps; only laughing at all the people who said Halo 3 sucked because it was 30fps, only to have this happen. They are now eating their own words.

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#37 Ninja-Vox
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]inertk, i think you're missing the point here. It's simply that cows were bashing the hell out of Halo 3 the other day (legalize got the ball rolling, as always) on how the game wasn't "next gen" because it ran in 720p and 30fps. Now Killzone has been announced to do the same, and inevitably cows are somewhat owned as by their very definition 30fps apparently just isn't good enough.smokeydabear076
Didn't the same thing happen to UT3?

Yes. The xbox 360 version was predicted to be completely inferior and run at 30fps whereas the almighty PS3 would run at 60.

It's fine bragging about higher frame rates... it's a good thing. But dont make silly comments like "30 fps isn't real next gen!" because you're only setting yourself up for phailure when a big game on whatever fanboy system you love comes out with that kind of frame rate.

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#38 Seckzy_Gamer
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And rumble isn't coming to the Ps3 :cry:
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#39 inertk
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[QUOTE="inertk"]Madden 60 on the 360, 30 on the PS3 as well as other EA sports titles.

Lemmings made a big deal out of it. Some *minority* would even act as if anything below 60 was beneath them and unplayable even, despite the fact the previous Madden games ran at 30 on the 360.LosDaddie

Why yes, here in SW, it's fair game to brag about one ofthe biggest, best-selling games of the year (Madden) running 2x better on your console. That is what SW is all about.

Everything in System Wars is a cycle, if lemmings didn't make a big deal out of Madden, those cows wouldn't retaliate with Halo and now people wouldn't have to retaliate with Killzone 2. I'm sure Haze+UT3 fit in here somewhere too.

inertk

Get real.

Cows have been bashing Halo since 2001. Implying they only started bashing Halo because Lems bashed 30FPS for Madden08 is just ignoring reality. And quite laughable.

You claim to not be a cow, but you sure are defending them like a cow.

Yeah Cows have been bashing Halo since it released, just like MGS for lemmings. That doesn't stop lemmings from begging for it or better yet cows hoping they had a game of Halo's calibur on their console. But when was that the point... How long have cows been bashing Halo 3's framerate for? When they thought UT3 ran faster.. Before that? After?

But you misunderstood what I said, there's a difference between bragging and acting as though the game is unplayable. People even questioned the PS3's ablities since apparently it can't run Madden at 60 *Even though the 360 didn't last year*. If you see what I mean, it ends up with everyone being a hypocrite.

So people attack the most hyped game = Halo 3.

But... If you must know, I haven't even got a PS3. I've got a 360+PC, Xbox+PS2+DC, my PS1 still works too I think and my phone can play games too if you must know.

But sorry, I never knew defending a certain group equates being part of that group. But since Cows get attacked the most, with some of the dumbest/hypocritical arguments ever I tend to be on their side a little more - that and lemmings have the biggest heads ever add that with being just as misinformed as your regular fanboy and well... You get the point.

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#40 LosDaddie
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Yeah Cows have been bashing Halo since it released, just like MGS for lemmings. That doesn't stop lemmings from begging for it or better yet cows hoping they had a game of Halo's calibur on their console. But when was that the point... How long have cows been bashing Halo 3's framerate for? When they thought UT3 ran faster.. Before that? After?

But you misunderstood what I said, there's a difference between bragging and acting as though the game is unplayable. People even questioned the PS3's ablities since apparently it can't run Madden at 60 *Even though the 360 didn't last year*. If you see what I mean, it ends up with everyone being a hypocrite.inertk

So, why are you defending cows? This thread is calling out the hypocrisy of cows, which is essentially what you're doing also.

So again, why are you defending cows? Are you seriously implying cows shouldn't be called out for bashing Halo3's 30FPS 720p graphics?

But... If you must know, I haven't even got a PS3. I've got a 360+PC, Xbox+PS2+DC, my PS1 still works too I think and my phone can play games too if you must know. inertk

If you must know, I own all 3 consoles and a DS.

But sorry, I never knew defending a certain group equates being part of that group. But since Cows get attacked the most, with some of the dumbest/hypocritical arguments ever I tend to be on their side a little more - that and lemmings have the biggest heads ever add that with being just as misinformed as your regular fanboy and well... You get the point.

inertk

The point of this thread is to call out cows for their hypocritical ways. Cows get attacked because of the trash talkingthey do.

Also, cows are now reaping what they sowed last gen. Cows were relentless last gen.

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#41 Reyes360
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but the PS3 can run at 120 FPS in 1080p using Unreal Engine 8.5 while running as a server for the internet!!!NFJSupreme

yeah but it can do it twice using dual HDMI's and also in 4D of course.

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#42 darthogre
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Confirmed.. Ouch after all the halo 3 bashing for it being 30fpsDoctorBunny

Actually the bashing stemmed from X360 fanboys saying 30 FPS was trash. Everyone bashing Halo3 was just pointing out that it too was 30 FPS so it must be trash according to X360 fanboys.

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#43 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]Confirmed.. Ouch after all the halo 3 bashing for it being 30fpsdarthogre

Actually the bashing stemmed from X360 fanboys saying 30 FPS was trash. Everyone bashing Halo3 was just pointing out that it too was 30 FPS so it must be trash according to X360 fanboys.

Lems never bashed 30FPS, especially since the GotY Gears of War ran at 30FPS

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#44 thinicer
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that Killzone 2 will be 30 fps. The developers are focusing more on graphic fidelity than performance.
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#45 Heil68
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Gears of war is at 30fps. :|
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#46 inertk
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[QUOTE="inertk"]

Yeah Cows have been bashing Halo since it released, just like MGS for lemmings. That doesn't stop lemmings from begging for it or better yet cows hoping they had a game of Halo's calibur on their console. But when was that the point... How long have cows been bashing Halo 3's framerate for? When they thought UT3 ran faster.. Before that? After?

But you misunderstood what I said, there's a difference between bragging and acting as though the game is unplayable. People even questioned the PS3's ablities since apparently it can't run Madden at 60 *Even though the 360 didn't last year*. If you see what I mean, it ends up with everyone being a hypocrite.LosDaddie

So, why are you defending cows? This thread is calling out the hypocrisy of cows, which is essentially what you're doing also.

So again, why are you defending cows? Are you seriously implying cows shouldn't be called out for bashing Halo3's 30FPS 720p graphics?

But... If you must know, I haven't even got a PS3. I've got a 360+PC, Xbox+PS2+DC, my PS1 still works too I think and my phone can play games too if you must know. inertk

If you must know, I own all 3 consoles and a DS.

But sorry, I never knew defending a certain group equates being part of that group. But since Cows get attacked the most, with some of the dumbest/hypocritical arguments ever I tend to be on their side a little more - that and lemmings have the biggest heads ever add that with being just as misinformed as your regular fanboy and well... You get the point.

inertk

The point of this thread is to call out cows for their hypocritical ways. Cows get attacked because of the trash talkingthey do.

Also, cows are now reaping what they sowed last gen. Cows were relentless last gen.

No, I'm not saying cows shouldn't be called out. If I saw the thread with 'legalize' or whoever it is that started the entire thing I would've given him a healthy dose of reality. The majority of games released and upcoming run at 30, if it's constant who cares?

Not only that but 720p native to me seems more like a positive. Instead of wasting resources on a resolution about 300 people will be able to play the game at they could use it to improve the overall image quality without a resolution jump.

I know the point was to call out cows, but it ended up with people trashing Killzone+PS3 for the same reason people did the 360 in a battle of technical superiority.

I doubt this thread would humble the cows. Presenting to them that plenty of AAA+AA games as well as the majority of games in general run at 30 would've been the best method and adding Killzone to that list.

Hell that would shut up framerate-fanboys completely, I would make the thread but it would get overlooked so I just leave it.

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#47 tango90101
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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]Confirmed.. Ouch after all the halo 3 bashing for it being 30fpsdarthogre

Actually the bashing stemmed from X360 fanboys saying 30 FPS was trash. Everyone bashing Halo3 was just pointing out that it too was 30 FPS so it must be trash according to X360 fanboys.

no, it goes waaaay father than that..

cows used to "own" the original halo for being at 30fps while TS was at 60fps....

using this logic to "prove the ps2 is more powerful than the xbox"...:roll:

face it; cows self own for a hobby... it's the only explanation...

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#48 Driftwood111
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Cows bring 90% of their ownage on themselves. Honestly, did nobody think to maybe not bash Halo 3 as "last gen" for being 30fps, cause y'know.... maybe some PS3 game might be 30fps too?

*sigh*

Ninja-Vox

That's exactly the point. I'm not going to bash Killzone for 30fps, just as much as I didn't care Halo was 30fps. If I bashed killzone, then that will be double standards.

However, it's the way the Cows shoot first that sometimes, well, they deserve what they get.

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#49 LosDaddie
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I know the point was to call out cows, but it ended up with people trashing Killzone+PS3 for the same reason people did the 360 in a battle of technical superiority.

inertk

Who is trashing KZ2 & PS3 in this thread?

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#50 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

in no way was I attacking you, I hope you didnt take it that way. just saying that in the end, as long as the game is good, I could care less, I just want to have fun and enjoy games, i'm on vacation right now and when I get home i'm going straight to my 360 with Bioshock,which I just might pick up here in virginia on my way home, lol I'm not even going to unpack!

inertk

Heh, I used to play Counterstrike Source - probably averaging 15-20 frames. I had a blast playing it, even got so good at it that when I would play Counterstrike with a smooth framerate I couldn't play as well haha.

I understand what you mean. I was attacking you either, I think I come across as cold on the internet. I'm not sure.

no worries, its all good!

GAME ON!