Killzone 2 and Halo Reach graphics on 32' viewsonic LCD TV.

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#1 blaznwiipspman1
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Does the quality of an LCD tv matters when it comes to a games graphics? I have a 32 inch 720p view sonic n3251w LCD TV which I bought almost 3 years ago and I am not sure if its just me or the tv but the graphics for halo reach and killzone 2 look like arse on it to me. I have a pretty decent computer so maybe Im spoiled by it. Is it that my graphical standards are at such a high level because of my gaming pc or does the TV actually suck that bad? Also if it is my tv please recommend me a good TV.

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#2 ultraking
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viewsonic tv? must not be good, since ive never heard of them

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#3 Dead-Memories
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killzone 2 has some pretty spectacular vistas, multiplayer of course. there are times which I stare at aw at the skyboxes and the saturation of the colors. visari hammer especially.

won't say halo reach has terrible graphics, just fairly outdated and nothing spectacular.

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#4 GTSaiyanjin2
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It matters some.... i have a crappy HDTV I bought 4 years ago, but the games still look fine to me. But they look way better on my 40"HDTV i bought 2 years ago. Just dont game on a TN monitor they not exactly known for their picture quality.

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I am so greatfull that I am not a graphics guy. I like the look of current gen games, last gen games, even PS1 games. Graphics are cool and all but I go for story and game play first.
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#6 Macka9000
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Killzone 2 has quite a unique look to it, so you can't actually compare it to any PC games. In that sense, the game should still look good, even if you have been spoilt by a high end PC. So i'm guessing it's your TV. Perhaps go for a panasonic 50" plasma or a samsung LCD.

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#7 Animal-Mother
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viewsonic tv? must not be good, since ive never heard of them

ultraking
wait you haven't heard of viewsonic or viewsonic tv's?
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#8 ultraking
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[QUOTE="ultraking"]

viewsonic tv? must not be good, since ive never heard of them

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wait you haven't heard of viewsonic or viewsonic tv's?

i really havent

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#9 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="ultraking"]

viewsonic tv? must not be good, since ive never heard of them

ultraking

wait you haven't heard of viewsonic or viewsonic tv's?

i really havent

well then you live in a hole or something, their monitors are very good quality.
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#10 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="ultraking"]

viewsonic tv? must not be good, since ive never heard of them

ultraking

wait you haven't heard of viewsonic or viewsonic tv's?

i really havent

Yeah they have some pretty boss computer monitors. The last monitor I actually used was a viewsonic.
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#11 XenonRadon
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How close do you sit to the screen? Killzone 2 looks great on my 32" 720p Panasonic, but I sit pretty far away. Halo Reach is not a particularly good look game though, IMO.

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#12 Kinthalis
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It's the console.

Trust me. I have a high end PC, and I watch my friends play some console games, including Reach and I was laughing my @ss off. The aliasing, the textures, the blurry visuals thanks to low resolution stretch and pixel noise.

It's bad compared to a PC.

That being said, you kind of get used to it. I still had fun playing Halo with friends, but once I get home I kiss my PC because god, it's like being in the gaming dark ages.

YMMV, given I'm definitely a graphics fanboy.

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#13 Pug-Nasty
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I have a 46" Sammy LCD and KZ2 looks phenomenal. Of course, our definitions of phenomenal may not be the same, but I'd wager it's that TV of yours... which probably has horrible contrast ratios and such. Also, a good calibration does wonders for your picture regardless of your TV. Try Digital Video Essentials on Blu-Ray. It can be a little confusing using it at first, but you get the hang of it quickly. Night and day.

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#14 NVIDIATI
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Well the screen can have some effect to your experience. Things like resolution,contrast, colour accuracy, deep blacks, refresh/motion,etc. Not sure how well that viewsonic would do those things... Defiantly below average.

You want a good TV, get a Panasonic plasma.

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#15 Teuf_
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Bad LCD's can make anything look awful.

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#16 Kinthalis
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We are kind of shooting in the dark here. TC only says the graphics look like @ss to him. We need more details.

As I mentioned, coming froma high end PC, console graphics look like @ss to me too, but we don't know if that's the case for him, or if his TV settings are screwy.

TC, do you watch movies on that TV? how do they look?

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#17 Adamantium4k2
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Viewsonic makes good TVs. You might want to look for an LCD or LED monitor that excepts all the available HD resolutions (480p, 720p, and 1080p). I have my consoles hooked up to a 24' LCD PC/TV monitor that goes all the way up to 1080p and Killzone 2 looks absolutely amazing.

Also make sure your using HDMI cables and selecting Deep Color options.

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#18 painguy1
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Idk about TV's but viewsonic makes some good computer monitors

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#19 vistamanV5
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I have a 50 Panasonic Plasma 3D... Killzone 2 and Halo Reach looks absolutely amazing... What are you people talking about Halo Reach looks ok??? Either your blind or your TV sucks... But more than likely your a fanboy... The new map Tempest from the Noble map pack... I find myself getting killed all the time cause the map is so breathtaking...
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Side note..... Viewsonic makes great TVs and monitors especially for there price... I have a Viewsonic 20' monitor for my rig... Looks awesome through DVI..
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I have a 50 Panasonic Plasma 3D... Killzone 2 and Halo Reach looks absolutely amazing... What are you people talking about Halo Reach looks ok??? Either your blind or your TV sucks... But more than likely your a fanboy... The new map Tempest from the Noble map pack... I find myself getting killed all the time cause the map is so breathtaking...vistamanV5

++ Halo Reach looks awesome, definitely one of the best lookers of 2010 imo. Even the multiplayer looks great and definitely a big step up from Halo 3.

Of course, it still doesn't match the likes of Crysis but still looks great.

Even multiplayer looks awesome:

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I have a 50 Panasonic Plasma 3D... Killzone 2 and Halo Reach looks absolutely amazing... What are you people talking about Halo Reach looks ok??? Either your blind or your TV sucks... But more than likely your a fanboy... The new map Tempest from the Noble map pack... I find myself getting killed all the time cause the map is so breathtaking...vistamanV5
So he's a fanboy for saying Reach doesn't look good but not for saying Killzone looks bad as well? Hmmmm Anyway it's probably just your TV.
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#23 vistamanV5
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[QUOTE="vistamanV5"]I have a 50 Panasonic Plasma 3D... Killzone 2 and Halo Reach looks absolutely amazing... What are you people talking about Halo Reach looks ok??? Either your blind or your TV sucks... But more than likely your a fanboy... The new map Tempest from the Noble map pack... I find myself getting killed all the time cause the map is so breathtaking...soulitane
So he's a fanboy for saying Reach doesn't look good but not for saying Killzone looks bad as well? Hmmmm Anyway it's probably just your TV.

No, I wasnt referring to the TC... Killzone looks amazing too.... If you say it doesnt your a fanboy as well...
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#25 Iantheone
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It's the console.

Trust me. I have a high end PC, and I watch my friends play some console games, including Reach and I was laughing my @ss off. The aliasing, the textures, the blurry visuals thanks to low resolution stretch and pixel noise.

It's bad compared to a PC.

That being said, you kind of get used to it. I still had fun playing Halo with friends, but once I get home I kiss my PC because god, it's like being in the gaming dark ages.

YMMV, given I'm definitely a graphics fanboy.

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Ive been borrowing an Xbox to catch up on some console titles and while the games do look ok (no where near PC) I cannot stand the frame rate. L4D2 splitscreen was unbearable to me. I used the same TV for my PC and the xbox.
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#26 Kinthalis
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Those screenshots are bullshots.

The actual game doesn't even run at HD resolutions, and has lower quality textures and much more aliasing.

I bet you those shots were taking on a dev's PC.

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#27 NVIDIATI
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I have a 50 Panasonic Plasma 3D... Killzone 2 and Halo Reach looks absolutely amazing... What are you people talking about Halo Reach looks ok??? Either your blind or your TV sucks... But more than likely your a fanboy... The new map Tempest from the Noble map pack... I find myself getting killed all the time cause the map is so breathtaking...vistamanV5
Killzone 2 and Reach don't look that amazing...

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#28 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="vistamanV5"]I have a 50 Panasonic Plasma 3D... Killzone 2 and Halo Reach looks absolutely amazing... What are you people talking about Halo Reach looks ok??? Either your blind or your TV sucks... But more than likely your a fanboy... The new map Tempest from the Noble map pack... I find myself getting killed all the time cause the map is so breathtaking...vistamanV5
So he's a fanboy for saying Reach doesn't look good but not for saying Killzone looks bad as well? Hmmmm Anyway it's probably just your TV.

Ohk, thought you were just referring to Halo Reach and ignoring the killzone part :P No, I wasnt referring to the TC... Killzone looks amazing too.... If you say it doesnt your a fanboy as well...

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#29 themyth01
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Those screenshots are bullshots.

The actual game doesn't even run at HD resolutions, and has lower quality textures and much more aliasing.

I bet you those shots were taking on a dev's PC.

Kinthalis
Given I'm the only one who posted pics I assume you're referring to Reach. In which case, I can tell you those are real screens, you can even see the GS logo and most are from multiplayer too, not even the campaign. They are 720p pics, Halo Reach runs at a native 1152x720 just shy of real 720p but interpolates the few remaining pixels. Those were just the first pics I found in GS too, I didn't look for good pics or nothing like that. Reach does look great, I don't get why people try to knock down its great graphics.
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#30 blaznwiipspman1
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We are kind of shooting in the dark here. TC only says the graphics look like @ss to him. We need more details.

As I mentioned, coming froma high end PC, console graphics look like @ss to me too, but we don't know if that's the case for him, or if his TV settings are screwy.

TC, do you watch movies on that TV? how do they look?

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#31 sailor232
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I gamed on my 32inch 720p viewsonic with my pc for some time, mass effect 1 and 2 looked amazing on it, I really think it is the jump from pc to console, though graphics dont really matter too much for me, I play my ps3 more than anything else right now.

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#32 vistamanV5
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[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

Those screenshots are bullshots.

The actual game doesn't even run at HD resolutions, and has lower quality textures and much more aliasing.

I bet you those shots were taking on a dev's PC.

themyth01
Given I'm the only one who posted pics I assume you're referring to Reach. In which case, I can tell you those are real screens, you can even see the GS logo and most are from multiplayer too, not even the campaign. They are 720p pics, Halo Reach runs at a native 1152x720 just shy of real 720p but interpolates the few remaining pixels. Those were just the first pics I found in GS too, I didn't look for good pics or nothing like that. Reach does look great, I don't get why people try to knock down its great graphics.

He is correct... Halo Reach looks amazing... I just dont understand why people dont get that... Its color and crispiness is amazing... Is it the best looking game out? No... But it looks amazing...
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Halo Reach was outdated upon release. Halo 3 was outdated upon release. Although every game has showed an improvment over the previous games, they never out shine what we already have on the shelf. Halo is loved for its multiplayer and the books. Killzone is loved for its graphics and its overall gameplay. Like it or not their both fun and pretty in their own ways...
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#35 Jesus_on_fire
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I didn't even know Viewsonic makes TV's

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#36 savagetwinkie
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halo reach is actually a pretty good looking game, fairly detailed, its problem is its got fairly bad AF and the AA causes a horrible ghosting effect.

Killzone on the other hand actually looks really really good on smaller screens, but the detail isn't as consistent and they tried to use a blur effect and lots of post filters to cover it up, and alot of the detail is spent on the gun. it was really nice on my 19inch but when i moved up to a 32" it stopped looking as good.

Also if you'r comparing to PC's they are going to be fairly below what you experience on PC, dpending on what you play... like metro 2033

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I have a 50 Panasonic Plasma 3D... Killzone 2 and Halo Reach looks absolutely amazing... What are you people talking about Halo Reach looks ok??? Either your blind or your TV sucks... But more than likely your a fanboy... The new map Tempest from the Noble map pack... I find myself getting killed all the time cause the map is so breathtaking...vistamanV5
Yep, played both on my 42' plasma, Reach looks freaking awesome! Hateful fan-boys are easy to pick out though.. Imo.
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#38 lowe0
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Hmmm... given Viewsonic's background in PC monitors, I wonder if your LCD is expecting 0-255 instead of 16-235? Assuming you're using HDMI, try using the RGB Full Range option on PS3. It'll clean up some of the washed-out look, which would really ruin Killzone 2. 360 has a similar setting, though I can't remember the exact name of it.

That said, expect improvement, not miracles. Consoles are gaming appliances - no sense in expecting them to keep up with the absolute latest in PC technology.