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#51 proof11102
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[QUOTE="Prid3r"]ZOMG , a company owned by Sony ( guerrilla ) , Who fail horribly at making good console games , say that the 360 is inferior to the PS3 :shock: I need to commit suicide now :roll: ! destructable environment ? red faction anyone ?MegaPigeon

You lemmings are really afraid of what Killzone is going to turn out to be aren't you?

Bungie- Halo Marathon Myst Guerilla- Shellshock, 'Nam 67 Killzone I wonder who'sthe better developer...........

*Poster fails to realize that Guerilla is backed with the help of Sony now*

Oh well...I guess we'll see.

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[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]PS3 can do more things simultaneously then the 360 so I can see Killzone being the most chaotic FPS EVER!! it will be completely crazy, like a real war.proof11102

There is no real proof that either machine is much more powerfull than the other, just a bunch of missinformed fanboy hype.

I guess folding is imaginary too?

Yea, the claim that PS3 is more powerfull than PC, yet somehow the PS3 cant run crysis without a downgrade, The F@H only proves that its good for research capabilities, its not a gaming benchmark.
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"]PC has seen "Fully destructable Environments" years ago, buy your logic, PS3 Inferior also.PS3OWNS
1) Wrong. If so what game because it does not exist ;)

 

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#54 thinicer
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"Fully destructable environments" sounds a lot like marketing fluff.
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#55 MegaPigeon
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[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]TC, I give you, Battlefield : Bad Company. A game coming onto the 360 with fully destrucatble enviroments....:(proof11102

That game is multiplatform...

and if the 360 was so "inferior" to not be able to render destructable enviroments, what the hell is it doing on the 360?

If the game is multiplatform...the level of destructability of the world is only as good as the limit of what the 360 is capable of. Just because one game has a world that's destructable doesn't mean it's on the same level of every other game that have destructable worlds.

It appears to be one of the game's core mechanics, so I doubt they'll cut back on it

 

Black has destructable envirments too...so dose that mean that it will be on the same level of the game you mention here that you are saying is going to be on the xbox360? You're argument isn't very well thought out, but I figure your responce is more one of damage control than anything else.

Mine isn't thought out? You just compared a last gen game to something on next gen hardware. Of course Bad Company will have a better mechanics that Black, it's a new engine on much more powerful hardware. And say if I'm wrong, but didn't the Xbox have a better GPU, and the PS2 had the ability to process twice the amount of FLOPs than the Xbox? I think the Xbox was the one that came out on top as far as that went......Just because Sony dub the PS3 "the most powerfull" doesn't instantly mean every single game will run better and be able to do more. 

 

Xbox fans are always quick to point out diffrences in xbox360 and PS3 hardware. Well those diffences are what's going to make developerrs be able to do things on the PS3 can can't be done on xbox360.

Please ellaborate on how i'm an Xbox Fan, and these things that apparently "can't be done on the 360". Denying that anything can't be done on a console because it's apparently "less powerfull" is rather dumb.Both the Ps3 and 360 have huge potential and have powerful hardware, so how isn't such a thing as shown in Bad COmpany not possible on the 360?

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[QUOTE="PS3OWNS"][QUOTE="Marka1700"]PC has seen "Fully destructable Environments" years ago, buy your logic, PS3 Inferior also.Mutebfmese

1) Wrong. If so what game because it does not exist ;)

 

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LOL! WORMS IS AWESOME! He got ya there PS3OWNS :P
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#57 MegaPigeon
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[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="Prid3r"]ZOMG , a company owned by Sony ( guerrilla ) , Who fail horribly at making good console games , say that the 360 is inferior to the PS3 :shock: I need to commit suicide now :roll: ! destructable environment ? red faction anyone ?proof11102

You lemmings are really afraid of what Killzone is going to turn out to be aren't you?

Bungie- Halo Marathon Myst Guerilla- Shellshock, 'Nam 67 Killzone I wonder who'sthe better developer...........

*Poster fails to realize that Guerilla is backed with the help of Sony now*

Oh well...I guess we'll see.

And what does that prove? They made Killzone with Sony's backing and it turned out to be really bad. And let's see.....they've made a total of 3 games in the time they've been around. Hardly experienced developers. Including non-commercial projects, Bungie have made 14. They also managed to make Myst and Marathon (2 classic and defining serieses) WITHOUT MS's backing. *Poster fails to see the point of my last post*
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#58 proof11102
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]PS3 can do more things simultaneously then the 360 so I can see Killzone being the most chaotic FPS EVER!! it will be completely crazy, like a real war.Marka1700

There is no real proof that either machine is much more powerfull than the other, just a bunch of missinformed fanboy hype.

I guess folding is imaginary too?

Yea, the claim that PS3 is more powerfull than PC, yet somehow the PS3 cant run crysis without a downgrade, The F@H only proves that its good for research capabilities, its not a gaming benchmark.

riiiight.  I wonder how 360 would do at it...considering that 360's up and die just from playing games.

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[QUOTE="PS3OWNS"][QUOTE="Marka1700"]PC has seen "Fully destructable Environments" years ago, buy your logic, PS3 Inferior also.Mutebfmese

1) Wrong. If so what game because it does not exist ;)

Worms. 

 

Worms lol lol

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#60 theboxmike
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Killzone the Halo killer! :lol:  I guess the graphics suck so now they are hyping destructiable environments. :lol:

 

 

 

bloodlust_101

How do you know the graphics suck? That tech demo wasnt showing off Killzone, it was showing off something else. And from what Kotaku writes, it was self sabotage. Take it how you want, but dont assume.

I can awsner that

1, Ign and 1up had said that the graphics arnt up to par yet.

2, Sony said themselfs that the Demo wasnt a repentsation of the GAME not the graphics

But it still has a while to go.

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[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="Prid3r"]ZOMG , a company owned by Sony ( guerrilla ) , Who fail horribly at making good console games , say that the 360 is inferior to the PS3 :shock: I need to commit suicide now :roll: ! destructable environment ? red faction anyone ?bloodlust_101

You lemmings are really afraid of what Killzone is going to turn out to be aren't you?

Bungie- Halo Marathon Myst Guerilla- Shellshock, 'Nam 67 Killzone I wonder who'sthe better developer...........

SOMEONES forgetting about the KZ for PSP. GG has gotten over 200 people working for them now. 120 of them being coders. I think its a much larger, better team now. Give them a chance.

KZL was hardly a classic :? They've probably learned form their msitakes form the original KZ, and yes, they have a larger team than before, but I don't think anyone can deny that Bungie are the better developers and have more experience.
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#62 Puckhog04
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Why anyone is hyping this is beyond me...

I can understand secretly wanting a game that had a previous game in the series do horrible, but openly calling it AAA and hyping it as Killzone 2 is? It's like seeing a grenade and then diving on it.

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Lets just hold off on the Killzone hype until we see something really impressive, shall we?
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]PS3 can do more things simultaneously then the 360 so I can see Killzone being the most chaotic FPS EVER!! it will be completely crazy, like a real war.proof11102

There is no real proof that either machine is much more powerfull than the other, just a bunch of missinformed fanboy hype.

I guess folding is imaginary too?

Yea, the claim that PS3 is more powerfull than PC, yet somehow the PS3 cant run crysis without a downgrade, The F@H only proves that its good for research capabilities, its not a gaming benchmark.

riiiight.  I wonder how 360 would do at it...considering that 360's up and die just from playing games.

Neither system has the power to run it, With 360 512MB universal ram not been enough, And PS3 256 limited to system and 256 Limited to video.
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#65 MegaPigeon
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[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]PS3 can do more things simultaneously then the 360 so I can see Killzone being the most chaotic FPS EVER!! it will be completely crazy, like a real war.proof11102

There is no real proof that either machine is much more powerfull than the other, just a bunch of missinformed fanboy hype.

I guess folding is imaginary too?

Yea, the claim that PS3 is more powerfull than PC, yet somehow the PS3 cant run crysis without a downgrade, The F@H only proves that its good for research capabilities, its not a gaming benchmark.

riiiight. I wonder how 360 would do at it...considering that 360's up and die just from playing games.

 

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PS2 and XBOX had a game called Mercenaries that had Fully Destructable Environments too.
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#67 bloodlust_101
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[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Killzone the Halo killer! :lol:  I guess the graphics suck so now they are hyping destructiable environments. :lol:

 

 

 

theboxmike

How do you know the graphics suck? That tech demo wasnt showing off Killzone, it was showing off something else. And from what Kotaku writes, it was self sabotage. Take it how you want, but dont assume.

I can awsner that

1, Ign and 1up had said that the graphics arnt up to par yet.

2, Sony said themselfs that the Demo wasnt a repentsation of the GAME not the graphics

But it still has a while to go.

The game involves the graphics. We dont know how the actual game (GRAPHICS included) is. And what about the self Sabotage? Also, it was a tech demo for an engine dealing with particles (If I recall correctly). At least you got one thing right, theres still a while to go.
[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="MegaPigeon"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="Prid3r"]ZOMG , a company owned by Sony ( guerrilla ) , Who fail horribly at making good console games , say that the 360 is inferior to the PS3 :shock: I need to commit suicide now :roll: ! destructable environment ? red faction anyone ?MegaPigeon

You lemmings are really afraid of what Killzone is going to turn out to be aren't you?

Bungie- Halo Marathon Myst Guerilla- Shellshock, 'Nam 67 Killzone I wonder who'sthe better developer...........

SOMEONES forgetting about the KZ for PSP. GG has gotten over 200 people working for them now. 120 of them being coders. I think its a much larger, better team now. Give them a chance.

KZL was hardly a classic :? They've probably learned form their msitakes form the original KZ, and yes, they have a larger team than before, but I don't think anyone can deny that Bungie are the better developers and have more experience.

We dont know how skilled their new team is. Please dont assume. Killzone for PSP wasnt a classic, but it was a great game anyways. Your making it seem like Killzone 2 is terrible, EVEN before seeing a shred of in game footage. Please give it time to actually see the game before making it seem like crap.
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#68 Runningflame570
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Well Sony does suck Genji = total flop , Motorstorm = total flop. Ape Escape is nice though.

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Orly? Wipeout, God of War, Jak & Daxter, Crash Bandicoot, Gran Turismo, Sly Cooper, Rollcage, Jet Moto, Dark Cloud, ect. all suck?
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#69 proof11102
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[QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="MegaPigeon"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]TC, I give you, Battlefield : Bad Company. A game coming onto the 360 with fully destrucatble enviroments....:(MegaPigeon

That game is multiplatform...

and if the 360 was so "inferior" to not be able to render destructable enviroments, what the hell is it doing on the 360?

If the game is multiplatform...the level of destructability of the world is only as good as the limit of what the 360 is capable of. Just because one game has a world that's destructable doesn't mean it's on the same level of every other game that have destructable worlds.

It appears to be one of the game's core mechanics, so I doubt they'll cut back on it

Driving is the core mechanic of all cars...dose that mean all of them drive the same?  Yet again you miss the point.

Black has destructable envirments too...so dose that mean that it will be on the same level of the game you mention here that you are saying is going to be on the xbox360? You're argument isn't very well thought out, but I figure your responce is more one of damage control than anything else.

Mine isn't thought out? You just compared a last gen game to something on next gen hardware. Of course Bad Company will have a better mechanics that Black, it's a new engine on much more powerful hardware. And say if I'm wrong, but didn't the Xbox have a better GPU, and the PS2 had the ability to process twice the amount of FLOPs than the Xbox? I think the Xbox was the one that came out on top as far as that went......Just because Sony dub the PS3 "the most powerfull" doesn't instantly mean every single game will run better and be able to do more. 

Selfowned you tried to make it as if have haveing something being the "core mechanic" meant it would be the same.  As if the fact that Bad Company has destructable enviroments that somehow means the destructable envirnments in Killzone were a non issure.  But just now you've just said a new engine and more powerful hardware mean the diffrence...well buddy...that's the same thing the developers is saying.

Xbox fans are always quick to point out diffrences in xbox360 and PS3 hardware. Well those diffences are what's going to make developerrs be able to do things on the PS3 can can't be done on xbox360.

Please ellaborate on how i'm an Xbox Fan, and these things that apparently "can't be done on the 360". Denying that anything can't be done on a console because it's apparently "less powerfull" is rather dumb.Both the Ps3 and 360 have huge potential and have powerful hardware, so how isn't such a thing as shown in Bad COmpany not possible on the 360?

You selfowned yourself while trying to damage control what I said...You konw that right.  I don't feel like explaing too much so I'll just highlight the Ownage parts and leave a comment explaining why. 

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Wow...online translators really do suck...badly.  damn.
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Red Faction has fully destructable environments. Black had the same thing. In fact many games have had this.
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I work at the service department of one of the biggest hardware stores in Europe. It's based in Rotterdam. Geruillia games is one of our best customers. A couple of months ago they sent us back 30 powersupplies. All were burnt up in side. I don't tend to trust clowns like this who don't know how to handle their hard ware.
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Selfowned you tried to make it as if have haveing something being the "core mechanic" meant it would be the same. As if the fact that Bad Company has destructable enviroments that somehow means the destructable envirnments in Killzone were a non issure. But just now you've just said a new engine and more powerful hardware mean the diffrence...well buddy...that's the same thing the developers is saying.

 

proof11102

 

Mercenaries-Multiplatform game. They hardly cut back on much for either version of the game.

 

WTF do you mean by "non issure"?

And guess what? When I said "new engine and better hardware", I meant between last gen and current gen consoles.  

Developers are also saying all kinds of things, and for the love of god buy a dictionary. You almost killed the English language.
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[QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]PS3 can do more things simultaneously then the 360 so I can see Killzone being the most chaotic FPS EVER!! it will be completely crazy, like a real war.MegaPigeon

There is no real proof that either machine is much more powerfull than the other, just a bunch of missinformed fanboy hype.

I guess folding is imaginary too?

Yea, the claim that PS3 is more powerfull than PC, yet somehow the PS3 cant run crysis without a downgrade, The F@H only proves that its good for research capabilities, its not a gaming benchmark.

riiiight. I wonder how 360 would do at it...considering that 360's up and die just from playing games.

 

STFU and come back to reality...The only stupid people are those who ignore the facts and it seems you need a healthy dose to help you get back on track.

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Killzone 2 is going to be crap watch it flop :)
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[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Killzone the Halo killer! :lol: I guess the graphics suck so now they are hyping destructiable environments. :lol:

 

 

 

theboxmike

How do you know the graphics suck? That tech demo wasnt showing off Killzone, it was showing off something else. And from what Kotaku writes, it was self sabotage. Take it how you want, but dont assume.

I can awsner that

1, Ign and 1up had said that the graphics arnt up to par yet.

2, Sony said themselfs that the Demo wasnt a repentsation of the GAME not the graphics

But it still has a while to go.

Your second point just contradicted your first point.. First you say that the websites say that the Tech Demo used to show off playstation edge had bad graphics. Then you say that the same demo wasnt a representation of the graphics,

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]I'll believe it when I say it. Until Guerrila proves to me anything I will discredit everything they say. No dev that put out that steaming pile of fresh poo known as Killzone deserves the benifit of the doubt with anything.diggyzoom

They proved that they can put out a good game as a part of Sony with Killzone Liberation. I think we will be seeing some really good improvements now that Sony is more involved with the project.

 

 

Yes we can and I hope we do. But this is like a rookie talking down on a vet. The game just doesn't work like that. Rookies stay in their place until they prove otherwise. Killzone Liberations is good but its no FPS. Just because EA can make a decent football game doesn't mean they'd be qualified to make a good game in another genre. 

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Red Faction has fully destructable environments. Black had the same thing. In fact many games have had this. eastside49er

:|and they are all the same...

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I'll believe it when I say it. Until Guerrila proves to me anything I will discredit everything they say. No dev that put out that steaming pile of fresh poo known as Killzone deserves the benifit of the doubt with anything.Blackbond

 

Hey look, someone that can assemble a worthwhile remark to this news. Instead of acting like a fool.  

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#80 Nugtoka
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Battlefeild Bad Company has fully distructable environments on 360 get over it cows your console is not worth $600
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#81 mlbslugger86
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Killzone? :lol:OhSnapitz

yeah, killzone.Christ,it's like the cows are getting desperate,the first one sucked.

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Selfowned you tried to make it as if have haveing something being the "core mechanic" meant it would be the same. As if the fact that Bad Company has destructable enviroments that somehow means the destructable envirnments in Killzone were a non issure. But just now you've just said a new engine and more powerful hardware mean the diffrence...well buddy...that's the same thing the developers is saying.

 

MegaPigeon

 

Mercenaries-Multiplatform game. They hardly cut back on much for either version of the game.

 

WTF do you mean by "non issure"?

And guess what? When I said "new engine and better hardware", I meant between last gen and current gen consoles.  

Developers are also saying all kinds of things, and for the love of god buy a dictionary. You almost killed the English language.

But I'm still smarter than you.  You can't even make an argument.  I knew you ment between last gen and current gen consoles...:o I made that comparison on purpose to make that obvious, yet you responded as if "I" didn't know the comparison I was making was between a last generation game and one now. 

I know how slow people on SW can be *cough* so I made the comparison obvious to you so YOU could see that just because one game has the same mechnic as another it doesn't always = the same results because YOU said if 360 can do destructable environments in Bad company it = what was being discussed in Killzone :roll: gezz, taking about me needing a dictionary...why don't you get some lessions in comprehension.

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[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]PS3 can do more things simultaneously then the 360 so I can see Killzone being the most chaotic FPS EVER!! it will be completely crazy, like a real war.proof11102

There is no real proof that either machine is much more powerfull than the other, just a bunch of missinformed fanboy hype.

I guess folding is imaginary too?

Yea, the claim that PS3 is more powerfull than PC, yet somehow the PS3 cant run crysis without a downgrade, The F@H only proves that its good for research capabilities, its not a gaming benchmark.

riiiight. I wonder how 360 would do at it...considering that 360's up and die just from playing games.

 

STFU and come back to reality...The only stupid people are those who ignore the facts and it seems you need a healthy dose to help you get back on track.

 

Let me quote something you said before...... "riiiight. I wonder how 360 would do at it...considering that 360's up and die just from playing games." You seem to be implying that all 360s die, and that they do it every time. The fact is, a very low percentage of 360s have actually died. And the thing I quoted is also a response to someone mentioning how protien folding isn't a gaming benchmark. Using such a reponse just proves how much of a fanboy you are. If that didn't work..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVXzN7jCcRA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kUxLZWhkUw&mode=related&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjAeKMyxt3I&mode=related&search= OMG TEH PS3333 is TeH GhhEY? I can blow things out of proportion too, see? I actually know that not many PS3s broke upon launch, so I suusally refrain from using it as "evidence", but the 360 failure rate was hardly much higher. Let me quote you again.... "STFU and come back to reality...The only stupid people are those who ignore the facts and it seems you need a healthy dose to help you get back on track." What does the word "Hypocracy" mean to you?
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#84 joe_g_patton
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"TEH Fully Destructable Environments" is to KZ2 as "Real Time Weapon Change" and "Historically Accurate Giant Crabs is to Genji:  Days of the Blade".  The first Killzone was the cream of the flop.  Here are my expectations for Killzone 2:  The pre-release hype will match Daikatana and the post release cataclysmic floppage will also match Daikatana.
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#85 -KinGz-
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[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]TC, I give you, Battlefield : Bad Company. A game coming onto the 360 with fully destrucatble enviroments....:(proof11102

That game is multiplatform...

and if the 360 was so "inferior" to not be able to render destructable enviroments, what the hell is it doing on the 360?

If the game is multiplatform...the level of destructability of the world is only as good as the limit of what the 360 is capable of. Just because one game has a world that's destructable doesn't mean it's on the same level of every other game that have destructable worlds.

Black has destructable envirments too...so dose that mean that it will be on the same level of the game you mention here that you are saying is going to be on the xbox360? You're argument isn't very well thought out, but I figure your responce is more one of damage control than anything else.

Xbox fans are always quick to point out diffrences in xbox360 and PS3 hardware. Well those diffences are what's going to make developerrs be able to do things on the PS3 can can't be done on xbox360.

Dude the xbox360 can do practically everything better than the ps3 except physics, while the ps3 crappy gpu can't put AA+HDR on the same screen.
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#86 proof11102
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[QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="MegaPigeon"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]PS3 can do more things simultaneously then the 360 so I can see Killzone being the most chaotic FPS EVER!! it will be completely crazy, like a real war.MegaPigeon

There is no real proof that either machine is much more powerfull than the other, just a bunch of missinformed fanboy hype.

I guess folding is imaginary too?

Yea, the claim that PS3 is more powerfull than PC, yet somehow the PS3 cant run crysis without a downgrade, The F@H only proves that its good for research capabilities, its not a gaming benchmark.

riiiight. I wonder how 360 would do at it...considering that 360's up and die just from playing games.

 

STFU and come back to reality...The only stupid people are those who ignore the facts and it seems you need a healthy dose to help you get back on track.

 

Let me quote something you said before...... "riiiight. I wonder how 360 would do at it...considering that 360's up and die just from playing games." You seem to be implying that all 360s die, and that they do it every time. The fact is, a very low percentage of 360s have actually died. And the thing I quoted is also a response to someone mentioning how protien folding isn't a gaming benchmark. Using such a reponse just proves how much of a fanboy you are. If that didn't work..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVXzN7jCcRA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kUxLZWhkUw&mode=related&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjAeKMyxt3I&mode=related&search= OMG TEH PS3333 is TeH GhhEY? I can blow things out of proportion too, see? I actually know that not many PS3s broke upon launch, so I suusally refrain from using it as "evidence", but the 360 failure rate was hardly much higher. Let me quote you again.... "STFU and come back to reality...The only stupid people are those who ignore the facts and it seems you need a healthy dose to help you get back on track." What does the word "Hypocracy" mean to you?

Eat it...

"Since its release the Xbox 360 has had technical problems, including occurrences of total failure, i.e., the unit becomes completely unusable, which gamers have speculated that Microsoft rushing the system out for Winter 2005 sales without proper testing was the main reason behind it. Microsoft has stated that the overall return rate (i.e., the failure rate) of the Xbox 360 is way below the consumer electronics industry average of 3-5%. IGN journalist Matt Casamassina did publish a blog entry on IGN about having to replace his Xbox 360 multiple times, supporting the fact that Microsoft may have lied about the hardware failure rate.[1]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems

 

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#87 MegaPigeon
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But I'm still smarter than you. :lol:

You can't even make an argument. :lol:

I knew you ment between last gen and current gen consoles...:o I made that comparison on purpose to make that obvious, yet you responded as if "I" didn't know the comparison I was making was between a last generation game and one now.

You watch too much Yu-Gi-Oh. Your aparent 'ruse' made no sense what so ever. Are you trying to dig yourself out of a pit you dug yourself into?

I know how slow people on SW can be *cough* so I made the comparison obvious to you so YOU could see that just because one game has the same mechnic as another it doesn't always = the same results because YOU said if 360 can do destructable environments in Bad company it = what was being discussed in Killzone :roll:

 

Did I ever say that destructable enviroments were impossible on the PS3? No. Please quote me where I actually said that. I mentioned Bad Company as it's a 360 that has the same mechanics, and the TC's argument was that such a thing was impossible on the 360.

 

And by the way, a whole different engine on next gen hardware isn't the same as an old engine on old hardware.

gezz, taking about me needing a dictionary...why don't you get some lessions in comprehension. :lol:

proof11102
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[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="MegaPigeon"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]PS3 can do more things simultaneously then the 360 so I can see Killzone being the most chaotic FPS EVER!! it will be completely crazy, like a real war.proof11102

There is no real proof that either machine is much more powerfull than the other, just a bunch of missinformed fanboy hype.

I guess folding is imaginary too?

Yea, the claim that PS3 is more powerfull than PC, yet somehow the PS3 cant run crysis without a downgrade, The F@H only proves that its good for research capabilities, its not a gaming benchmark.

riiiight. I wonder how 360 would do at it...considering that 360's up and die just from playing games.

STFU and come back to reality...The only stupid people are those who ignore the facts and it seems you need a healthy dose to help you get back on track.

Let me quote something you said before...... "riiiight. I wonder how 360 would do at it...considering that 360's up and die just from playing games." You seem to be implying that all 360s die, and that they do it every time. The fact is, a very low percentage of 360s have actually died. And the thing I quoted is also a response to someone mentioning how protien folding isn't a gaming benchmark. Using such a reponse just proves how much of a fanboy you are. If that didn't work..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVXzN7jCcRA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kUxLZWhkUw&mode=related&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjAeKMyxt3I&mode=related&search= OMG TEH PS3333 is TeH GhhEY? I can blow things out of proportion too, see? I actually know that not many PS3s broke upon launch, so I suusally refrain from using it as "evidence", but the 360 failure rate was hardly much higher. Let me quote you again.... "STFU and come back to reality...The only stupid people are those who ignore the facts and it seems you need a healthy dose to help you get back on track." What does the word "Hypocracy" mean to you?

Eat it...

"Since its release the Xbox 360 has had technical problems, including occurrences of total failure, i.e., the unit becomes completely unusable, which gamers have speculated that Microsoft rushing the system out for Winter 2005 sales without proper testing was the main reason behind it. Microsoft has stated that the overall return rate (i.e., the failure rate) of the Xbox 360 is way below the consumer electronics industry average of 3-5%. IGN journalist Matt Casamassina did publish a blog entry on IGN about having to replace his Xbox 360 multiple times, supporting the fact that Microsoft may have lied about the hardware failure rate.[1]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems

Great, you linked me to a Wikipedia article on symptoms of 360s failing. What exactly did you wish to prove by doing that? Did I deny that there were hardware problems at all?
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[QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="MegaPigeon"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]TC, I give you, Battlefield : Bad Company. A game coming onto the 360 with fully destrucatble enviroments....:(-KinGz-

That game is multiplatform...

and if the 360 was so "inferior" to not be able to render destructable enviroments, what the hell is it doing on the 360?

If the game is multiplatform...the level of destructability of the world is only as good as the limit of what the 360 is capable of. Just because one game has a world that's destructable doesn't mean it's on the same level of every other game that have destructable worlds.

Black has destructable envirments too...so dose that mean that it will be on the same level of the game you mention here that you are saying is going to be on the xbox360? You're argument isn't very well thought out, but I figure your responce is more one of damage control than anything else.

Xbox fans are always quick to point out diffrences in xbox360 and PS3 hardware. Well those diffences are what's going to make developerrs be able to do things on the PS3 can can't be done on xbox360.

Dude the xbox360 can do practically everything better than the ps3 except physics, while the ps3 crappy gpu can't put AA+HDR on the same screen.

The ONLY think the 360 can do better than PS3 is textures, and PS3 makes up for that with superior shaders.

See little big planet if you have any questions.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=17723&type=mov&pl=game

 

 

 

link.

 

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Battlefeild Bad Company has fully distructable environments on 360 get over it cows your console is not worth $600Nugtoka
You are right it is worth $830
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Please, please, please don't hype Killzone
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#92 Squall_Griver
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Is it just me or does that article make no sense at all?
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#93 Spartan070
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Please, please, please don't hype Killzonefuzzysquash
Wow, this actually means a lot from one of the forums most respected posters, as evidenced by the runner up finish in POTY.:)
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#94 TekkenMaster606
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Please, please, please don't hype Killzonefuzzysquash

 

I am not hyping Killzone, but if people think that it will be worse than the first game. They're crazy. Give the developers more credit than that. After all, this is an industry where you learn from your mistakes and experience grows with time.

 

Sony's first party games this time around will be a whole lot better than last time. Resistance is a good start (Go ahead and say a game that scored 8.6 is pure crap). Motorstorm isn't so bad, nearly AA with a great online mode. Looks to me like Sony's software studios are really coming around.  

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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]Please, please, please don't hype KillzoneTekkenMaster606

 

I am not hyping Killzone, but if people think that it will be worse than the first game. They're crazy.

Agreed, I'll be picking it up. Not sure what it'll score but I'm pretty sure it'll do a lot better than the first KZ.

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[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"][QUOTE="proof11102"][QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="proof11102"]

[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="AB_Uppercut"]PS3 can do more things simultaneously then the 360 so I can see Killzone being the most chaotic FPS EVER!! it will be completely crazy, like a real war.proof11102

There is no real proof that either machine is much more powerfull than the other, just a bunch of missinformed fanboy hype.

I guess folding is imaginary too?

Yea, the claim that PS3 is more powerfull than PC, yet somehow the PS3 cant run crysis without a downgrade, The F@H only proves that its good for research capabilities, its not a gaming benchmark.

riiiight. I wonder how 360 would do at it...considering that 360's up and die just from playing games.

 

STFU and come back to reality...The only stupid people are those who ignore the facts and it seems you need a healthy dose to help you get back on track.

what facts?the fact that some people don't know how to take care of there things?

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#97 Blackbond
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Please, please, please don't hype Killzonefuzzysquash

I hope it turns out good because well come on, why would a gamer want any game to not be good lol. But nobody should be hyping this game period. 

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#98 nybritboy
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there are fully destructable enviroments in Earth Defense Force for 360 doesnt make it a good game. plus mercernaries 2 will be way better
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#100 Ninja-Vox
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Battlefield bad company has fully destructible environments, and that's on the 360. How is it inferior exactly?