Killzone 2 > Halo 4 = Resistance 2

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#601 Liquid_
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lol killzone 2 beating xbox's top exclusive. so mad

rilpas

I see you're jealous you can't play halo 4

i could just play halo 1..there's not really a difference

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#602 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"][QUOTE="Liquid_"]

lol killzone 2 beating xbox's top exclusive. so mad

Liquid_

I see you're jealous you can't play halo 4

i could just play halo 1..there's not really a difference

well, according to metacritic halo 1 is better then every PS3 game, so it's not such a bad idea

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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="PAL360"]Yep. Since standards don't exist in your books, Halo CE >>> allPAL360

So in what part i compare last gen games vs this one.? Halo 4 and all games i mention are this gen games Halo CE is completely irrelevant nice try.

Hmm...no no no. You are trying to claim ownage over Halo 4 using metacritic scores, despite how old the games are.

I say Halo 4 may be one of the best shooters this gen, because it managed to score high this late in the generation. You, on the other hand, say Halo CE is better than any PS3 exclusives because you have no clue what standards mean!

So basically the PS3's library is WAY better according to metacritic because it has roughly the same amount of high scoring games but a way more recent library and the 360 library is pretty much mostly from 2005-2007. Correct? Standards and all, that's how it works right? A bunch of AAA's from late in the generation >>>>> the same amount of AAA's from early in the generation?
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#604 rilpas
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] So in what part i compare last gen games vs this one.? Halo 4 and all games i mention are this gen games Halo CE is completely irrelevant nice try.Eddie-Vedder

Hmm...no no no. You are trying to claim ownage over Halo 4 using metacritic scores, despite how old the games are.

I say Halo 4 may be one of the best shooters this gen, because it managed to score high this late in the generation. You, on the other hand, say Halo CE is better than any PS3 exclusives because you have no clue what standards mean!

So basically the PS3's library is WAY better according to metacritic because it has roughly the same amount of high scoring games but a way more recent library and the 360 library is pretty much mostly from 2005-2007. Correct? Standards and all, that's how it works right? A bunch of AAA's from late in the generation >>>>> the same amount of AAA's from early in the generation?

to be fair, the PS3 library is pretty much 2008-2011

so it's not much better :P

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#605 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="PAL360"]Yep. Since standards don't exist in your books, Halo CE >>> allPAL360

So in what part i compare last gen games vs this one.? Halo 4 and all games i mention are this gen games Halo CE is completely irrelevant nice try.

Hmm...no no no. You are trying to claim ownage over Halo 4 using metacritic scores, despite how old the games are.

I say Halo 4 may be one of the best shooters this gen, because it managed to score high this late in the generation. You, on the other hand, say Halo CE is better than any PS3 exclusives because you have no clue what standards mean!

I am using this generation games period,please pack your hypocrisy argument,you your self use old ass 2005 xbox 360 games to prove the xbox 360 has more games than the PS3 you and Delta as well how many times have you.? How many times i have quoted you telling you that the xbox 360 has more games if you use 2005,2006 games than the xbox got before the PS3 was even here.? And they count in your books right.? So drop the charade is this gen vs this gen,the fact that you hide on Halo CE show how desperate you are so Halo 4 doesn't cut it vs old PS3 games time to bring last gen games..lol
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] So in what part i compare last gen games vs this one.? Halo 4 and all games i mention are this gen games Halo CE is completely irrelevant nice try.tormentos

Hmm...no no no. You are trying to claim ownage over Halo 4 using metacritic scores, despite how old the games are.

I say Halo 4 may be one of the best shooters this gen, because it managed to score high this late in the generation. You, on the other hand, say Halo CE is better than any PS3 exclusives because you have no clue what standards mean!

I am using this generation games period,please pack your hypocrisy argument,you your self use old ass 2005 xbox 360 games to prove the xbox 360 has more games than the PS3 you and Delta as well how many times have you.? How many times i have quoted you telling you that the xbox 360 has more games if you use 2005,2006 games than the xbox got before the PS3 was even here.? And they count in your books right.? So drop the charade is this gen vs this gen,the fact that you hide on Halo CE show how desperate you are so Halo 4 doesn't cut it vs old PS3 games time to bring last gen games..lol

If PS4 launches before Nextbox you'll be using those games. Hypocritce cvnt ;)
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#607 kuraimen
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Hey TC you should change the title to Killzone 2 > Resistance 2 = Halo 4. Just saying for more accuracy now lol
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] So in what part i compare last gen games vs this one.? Halo 4 and all games i mention are this gen games Halo CE is completely irrelevant nice try.Eddie-Vedder

Hmm...no no no. You are trying to claim ownage over Halo 4 using metacritic scores, despite how old the games are.

I say Halo 4 may be one of the best shooters this gen, because it managed to score high this late in the generation. You, on the other hand, say Halo CE is better than any PS3 exclusives because you have no clue what standards mean!

So basically the PS3's library is WAY better according to metacritic because it has roughly the same amount of high scoring games but a way more recent library and the 360 library is pretty much mostly from 2005-2007. Correct? Standards and all, that's how it works right? A bunch of AAA's from late in the generation >>>>> the same amount of AAA's from early in the generation?

Lol what are you talking about? 360 library not only has more quality games, it also have been getting more good exclusives this year. Actually, 360 has yet to have a year without at least a retail AAAE.

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#609 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] So in what part i compare last gen games vs this one.? Halo 4 and all games i mention are this gen games Halo CE is completely irrelevant nice try.tormentos

Hmm...no no no. You are trying to claim ownage over Halo 4 using metacritic scores, despite how old the games are.

I say Halo 4 may be one of the best shooters this gen, because it managed to score high this late in the generation. You, on the other hand, say Halo CE is better than any PS3 exclusives because you have no clue what standards mean!

I am using this generation games period,please pack your hypocrisy argument,you your self use old ass 2005 xbox 360 games to prove the xbox 360 has more games than the PS3 you and Delta as well how many times have you.? How many times i have quoted you telling you that the xbox 360 has more games if you use 2005,2006 games than the xbox got before the PS3 was even here.? And they count in your books right.? So drop the charade is this gen vs this gen,the fact that you hide on Halo CE show how desperate you are so Halo 4 doesn't cut it vs old PS3 games time to bring last gen games..lol

I use 2005 exclusives games as ownage? When did i do that? :o

The fact 360 has more games than PS3 has little to do with it's head start year. I really doubt 360 got 160 A+ games on it's first year alone. It has simply been more consistant all gen.

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#610 tormentos
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[QUOTE="locopatho"] If PS4 launches before Nextbox you'll be using those games. Hypocritce cvnt ;)

First of the PS4 is not here,second you don't know which will release first,3rd you are assuming on something you don't know or can prove,and 4th you are more hypocrite than me.
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#611 tormentos
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I use 2005 exclusives games as ownage? When did i do that? :o

The fact 360 has more games than PS3 has little to do with it's head start year. I really doubt 360 got 160 A+ games on it's first year alone. It has simply been more consistant all gen.

PAL360
Every time you use 2005,2006 game release on xbox 360 to prove the xbox 360 has more games,stop plying dumb,how many times i have told you that the xbox 360 has more games because of 2005 and 2006 games the xbox got before the PS3 was even launch,how many times you and several other still say that it doesn't matter that they count.. Once again the fact that you hide on Halo CE a 2001 game says it all,hell a remake was release on xbox 360 and didn't even reach 85% on Meta.. Here this is what Halo CE is by today's standards... http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary A 82% game oh and that is because the game has now multiplayer online something the first one did not even have.. http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary/critic-reviews http://www.gamespot.com/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary/reviews/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary-review-6346217/?tag=games%253Bgame_title%253B3 Second link if you want confirmation,Halo CE is nothing by today standards..
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[QUOTE="tormentos"] A 82% game oh and that is because the game has now multiplayer online something the first one did not even have..

What? Halo Anniversary came with Halo Reach multiplayer maps, it wasn't Halo CE Multiplayer...
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#613 Bruce_Benzing
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Tormy in this thread now stating we can't use early gen games officially makes it go full circle into how delluded the Cows really are. So I guess you finally agree by your logic that the standards of Killzone 2 are now officially lowered because of age and the MC argument is meaningless...

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#614 tormentos
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What? Halo Anniversary came with Halo Reach multiplayer maps, it wasn't Halo CE Multiplayer...Stevo_the_gamer
Which is better because Halo CE multiplayer was offline,not online.. The fact is that a remake was done and by today's standards is meh..
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#615 tormentos
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Tormy in this thread now stating we can't use early gen games officially makes it go full circle into how delluded the Cows really are. So I guess you finally agree by your logic that the standards of Killzone 2 are now officially lowered because of age and the MC argument is meaningless...

Bruce_Benzing
Killzone 2 is a 2009 game,hell Uncharted 3 is a 2011 game and is also higher rated than Halo 4... Old games.? I wonder which is really old Killzone 2 or Halo Ce.. 1 has 3 years the other 11...
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wow lemmings are really hurting that ps3 shooter exclusives have rendered halo 2nd rate as of this gen
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]I use 2005 exclusives games as ownage? When did i do that? :o

The fact 360 has more games than PS3 has little to do with it's head start year. I really doubt 360 got 160 A+ games on it's first year alone. It has simply been more consistant all gen.

tormentos

Every time you use 2005,2006 game release on xbox 360 to prove the xbox 360 has more games,stop plying dumb,how many times i have told you that the xbox 360 has more games because of 2005 and 2006 games the xbox got before the PS3 was even launch,how many times you and several other still say that it doesn't matter that they count.. Once again the fact that you hide on Halo CE a 2001 game says it all,hell a remake was release on xbox 360 and didn't even reach 85% on Meta.. Here this is what Halo CE is by today's standards... http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary A 82% game oh and that is because the game has now multiplayer online something the first one did not even have.. http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary/critic-reviews http://www.gamespot.com/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary/reviews/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary-review-6346217/?tag=games%253Bgame_title%253B3 Second link if you want confirmation,Halo CE is nothing by today standards..

:lol: You seem confused! You were the one saying standards didn't change with time, on the Killzone 2 vs Halo 4 thread. I just said that 'by your logic' Halo CE would be better than any PS3 exclusive.

And then again, i never used a 2005 360 game to claim ownage. In fact, that's not needed! 360 got more games at the start of the gen, and it has been getting more games when it comes to an end. It's called consistency!

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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="PAL360"]I use 2005 exclusives games as ownage? When did i do that? :o

The fact 360 has more games than PS3 has little to do with it's head start year. I really doubt 360 got 160 A+ games on it's first year alone. It has simply been more consistant all gen.

PAL360

Every time you use 2005,2006 game release on xbox 360 to prove the xbox 360 has more games,stop plying dumb,how many times i have told you that the xbox 360 has more games because of 2005 and 2006 games the xbox got before the PS3 was even launch,how many times you and several other still say that it doesn't matter that they count.. Once again the fact that you hide on Halo CE a 2001 game says it all,hell a remake was release on xbox 360 and didn't even reach 85% on Meta.. Here this is what Halo CE is by today's standards... http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary A 82% game oh and that is because the game has now multiplayer online something the first one did not even have.. http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary/critic-reviews http://www.gamespot.com/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary/reviews/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary-review-6346217/?tag=games%253Bgame_title%253B3 Second link if you want confirmation,Halo CE is nothing by today standards..

:lol: You seem confused! You were the one saying standards didn't change with time, on the Killzone 2 vs Halo 4 thread. I just said that 'by your logic' Halo CE would be better than any PS3 exclusive.

And then again, i never used a 2005 360 game to claim ownage. In fact, that's not needed! 360 got more games at the start of the gen, and it has been getting more games when it comes to an end. It's called consistency!

If only it was a cow but hey, it will have to do - nicely done. :)

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wow now it's 87, the damage control will keep on coming as more reviews get published :lol:

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#620 The_Game21x
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And Halo 3 >>> All of them.

I fail to see a reason to care.

But whatever. One of the year's best exclusives is coming out tomorrow. Can't wait to play it!

Have fun playing scores, Cows! :)

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Sorry to spoil the party consolites, but Crysis still reigns over!:D

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]What? Halo Anniversary came with Halo Reach multiplayer maps, it wasn't Halo CE Multiplayer...tormentos
Which is better because Halo CE multiplayer was offline,not online.. The fact is that a remake was done and by today's standards is meh..

I wasn't aware AA is "meh."
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Sorry to spoil the party consolites, but Crysis still reigns over!:D

zeeshanhaider

Come on, I'm not even a "consolite" but Crysis is...well...old.

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[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

Sorry to spoil the party consolites, but Crysis still reigns over!:D

ClassicRockFTW

Come on, I'm not even a "consolite" but Crysis is...well...old.

Its only a year older than R2.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]
[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]What? Halo Anniversary came with Halo Reach multiplayer maps, it wasn't Halo CE Multiplayer...Stevo_the_gamer
Which is better because Halo CE multiplayer was offline,not online.. The fact is that a remake was done and by today's standards is meh..

I wasn't aware AA is "meh."

mentos only plays AAA games
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#626 KiZZo1
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Yes, lems cannot marginalize Resistance and Killzone anymore ... and of course the worst is still to come with Halo 5 & 6 :P

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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .mems_1224

Your butthurt is showing...

:cool:

:lol: no butthurt, i dont have to settle for generic fps games with terrible controls. i have real fps games :lol:

>Console FPS

>Real FPS

:lol: loooooooooooooooooooooooooool No such thing, buddy.

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#628 Giancar
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So here are all the SWarriors having fun, eh? :P On topic: I really enjoyed KZ2 and R2, so Halo 4 must be a great game too
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Every time you use 2005,2006 game release on xbox 360 to prove the xbox 360 has more games,stop plying dumb,how many times i have told you that the xbox 360 has more games because of 2005 and 2006 games the xbox got before the PS3 was even launch,how many times you and several other still say that it doesn't matter that they count.. Once again the fact that you hide on Halo CE a 2001 game says it all,hell a remake was release on xbox 360 and didn't even reach 85% on Meta.. Here this is what Halo CE is by today's standards... http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary A 82% game oh and that is because the game has now multiplayer online something the first one did not even have.. http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary/critic-reviews http://www.gamespot.com/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary/reviews/halo-combat-evolved-anniversary-review-6346217/?tag=games%253Bgame_title%253B3 Second link if you want confirmation,Halo CE is nothing by today standards..SecretPolice

:lol: You seem confused! You were the one saying standards didn't change with time, on the Killzone 2 vs Halo 4 thread. I just said that 'by your logic' Halo CE would be better than any PS3 exclusive.

And then again, i never used a 2005 360 game to claim ownage. In fact, that's not needed! 360 got more games at the start of the gen, and it has been getting more games when it comes to an end. It's called consistency!

If only it was a cow but hey, it will have to do - nicely done. :)

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Hahaha....nice gif :P

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Halo 4 will sell triple than those games combined :lol:

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#631 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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Halo 4 will sell triple than those games combined :lol:

JohnnyCageMK
What you said in another thread: [QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"] Cows only care about sales when it's in their favor...

Pretty much. They bash Forza for not selling as much as GT but they won't acknowledge that nobody buys Killzone games.

Ironic....
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#632 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] What you said in another thread: [QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"] Cows only care about sales when it's in their favor...

Pretty much. They bash Forza for not selling as much as GT but they won't acknowledge that nobody buys Killzone games.

Ironic....

DA OWNAGE!! kudos
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#633 JohnnyCageMK
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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] What you said in another thread: [QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"] Cows only care about sales when it's in their favor... hoosier7
Pretty much. They bash Forza for not selling as much as GT but they won't acknowledge that nobody buys Killzone games.

Ironic....

Looks like you're mad cause PS3 has nothing to compete with those Halo sales brah

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[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] Pretty much. They bash Forza for not selling as much as GT but they won't acknowledge that nobody buys Killzone games.JohnnyCageMK

Ironic....

Looks like you're mad cause PS3 has nothing to compete with those Halo sales brah

You know the more you talk about sales, the more you're just proving my point?
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#636 JohnnyCageMK
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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

[QUOTE="hoosier7"] Ironic....hoosier7

Looks like you're mad cause PS3 has nothing to compete with those Halo sales brah

You know the more you talk about sales, the more you're just proving my point?

I wasn't the one that started about sales but if cows want to use them over GT5 then this thread is as good as dead. Halo slaughters everything PS3 has in sales.

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#637 kuraimen
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Hey TC you should change it now to KZ2 > Resistance 2 > Halo 4 lol
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#638 rilpas
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Hey TC you should change it now to KZ2 > Resistance 2 > Halo 4 lolkuraimen
resistance 2 and halo 4 both have the same score

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#639 MikeMoose
Member since 2005 • 3079 Posts

Well Out of the Park Baseball is better than all of them, so there.

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#640 Liquid_
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Hey TC you should change it now to KZ2 > Resistance 2 > Halo 4 lolrilpas

resistance 2 and halo 4 both have the same score

thats embarassing..lol

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#641 rilpas
Member since 2012 • 8161 Posts

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Hey TC you should change it now to KZ2 > Resistance 2 > Halo 4 lolLiquid_

resistance 2 and halo 4 both have the same score

thats embarassing..lol

I see you're still jelly

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#642 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Hey TC you should change it now to KZ2 > Resistance 2 > Halo 4 lolrilpas

resistance 2 and halo 4 both have the same score

On Metacritic? I thought master_shake had updated the sig.
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#643 MikeMoose
Member since 2005 • 3079 Posts

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Hey TC you should change it now to KZ2 > Resistance 2 > Halo 4 lolLiquid_

resistance 2 and halo 4 both have the same score

thats embarassing..lol

Halo is actually two points higher now. Would be even more if it wasn't for that one troll review that gave it a 20. No idea how metacritic takes that seriously,

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#644 rilpas
Member since 2012 • 8161 Posts

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Hey TC you should change it now to KZ2 > Resistance 2 > Halo 4 lolkuraimen

resistance 2 and halo 4 both have the same score

On Metacritic? I thought master_shake had updated the sig.

yep, on metacritic

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#645 Liquid_
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[QUOTE="Liquid_"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]resistance 2 and halo 4 both have the same score

rilpas

thats embarassing..lol

I see you're still jelly

I see that you are still delusional..take off the fanboy glasses little guy

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#646 rilpas
Member since 2012 • 8161 Posts

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Liquid_"]

thats embarassing..lol

Liquid_

I see you're still jelly

I see that you are still delusional..take off the fanboy glasses little guy

so much jelly, it's alright, maybe you can play it on a friend's house

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#647 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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Shhhhhiiiiiiii

Halo 4 = 87 metascore

No AAAE

Lems be cry

[spoiler]  [/spoiler]

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#648 NeonNinja
Member since 2005 • 17318 Posts

That 20 out of 100 review is very suspect. I can see the 55 that BigPond gave as it presents valid complaints from the reviewer, but that Quarter to Three review is like a big "f*ck you" to the franchise.

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#649 Liquid_
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[QUOTE="Liquid_"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

I see you're still jelly

rilpas

I see that you are still delusional..take off the fanboy glasses little guy

so much jelly, it's alright, maybe you can play it on a friend's house

i'd repeat myself if I was getting verbally destroyed too

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#650 rilpas
Member since 2012 • 8161 Posts

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Liquid_"]

I see that you are still delusional..take off the fanboy glasses little guy

Liquid_

so much jelly, it's alright, maybe you can play it on a friend's house

i'd repeat myself if I was getting verbally destroyed too

hey, it's alright, maybe next year sony will give you more then one PSN game.

must be tough having only on PSN game to play for a whiole year, ouch