[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="percech"]Standards change. Besides, Halo is under much bigger scrutiny than lulzy Killzone.percechLol the damage control is strong with this one. You need a life. I lol'd.
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Resistance 2 is not terrible. It had large MP matches with 64 players and was completely lag free and had a smooth frame rate. Tons of weapon variety and different skills to suit all play styles and tons of different maps. It also had a class based 8 player co op mode which was very unique at the time. Resistance 3 is terrible though and completely killed the series.[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]
resistance 2 was flat out terrible killzone 2 is old as dirt
everybody would take halo 4 over either lol
ultimate-k
I agree, R3 had a decent campaign but felt complety off, like it was a spin off and continuing from another story. I didnt even bother with the COD style MP they added in, so its generic mp just like any other shooter. ANd I cant belive they took out the 8player co-op, that was one of the best things about R2.
I played a ton of R2's co op and MP and as far as FPS goes on PS3, I'd make a strong argument that its the best exclusive FPS. R2 is the only one that is fully features with a lengthy SP, full coop mode, and an ambitious MP. I tried R3's MP for a couple hours and it was amongst the worst I have ever played. There was this idiotic perk that would spawn 5 crawlers when you died (similar to CoD's martyrdom). When those would appear, the frame rate would go to ~15 FPS. Everyone would use this perk since every likes to be rewarded by dying. Because of this, the game literally ran at 15fps the entire time and the hit detection/lag was horrible. I question if Insomniac ven tried with this game considering R2 had much bigger maps and 64 players and R3 had small ass CoD maps with 16 player max.Why is it fair to compare the best game of a series (Killzone 2) to (according to Metacritic) the worst in the series? Wouldn't it make more sense to compare Killzone 3 to Halo 4? Or does that just illuminate the fact that Halo 3 > KZ2, and Halo 4 > KZ3? How about, instead of cherrypicking, you look at this:
Average score of Halo games released this gen (including Halo Wars and Anniversary): 87
Average score of Killzone games released this gen (including Killzone Liberation): 84
Average score of Halo games released this gen (excluding Halo Wars and Anniversary, including ODST): 89.5
Average score of Killzone games released this gen (excluding Killzone Liberation): 87.5
It's time to pull your head out of your ass.
princeofshapeir
Why is halo wars and anniversary left out? Liberation is on a bloody handheld, halo wars and Ann are both on 360...
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1.Resistance 2 is vastly superior to resistance 1 and 3 and killzone 2 it atleast has a coherent and worthwhile story compared to resistance 1 and 3 and killzone 2 as well as actual worthwhile characters.
2.halo 4 is superior to them simple as that.
It seems to be backwards month lately...Charlie sheen's used to claim that 10/10 Mgs4 invalidated all the 360's library at the time...now older games like killzone 2 and resistacne 2 are some how invalidating newer games? thats just laughable.
[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]
Why is it fair to compare the best game of a series (Killzone 2) to (according to Metacritic) the worst in the series? Wouldn't it make more sense to compare Killzone 3 to Halo 4? Or does that just illuminate the fact that Halo 3 > KZ2, and Halo 4 > KZ3? How about, instead of cherrypicking, you look at this:
Average score of Halo games released this gen (including Halo Wars and Anniversary): 87
Average score of Killzone games released this gen (including Killzone Liberation): 84
Average score of Halo games released this gen (excluding Halo Wars and Anniversary, including ODST): 89.5
Average score of Killzone games released this gen (excluding Killzone Liberation): 87.5
It's time to pull your head out of your ass.
Maneil99
Why is halo wars and anniversary left out? Liberation is on a bloody handheld, halo wars and Ann are both on 360...
Do you know how to read, little boy? I'll spell it out for you. The second and third lines compare every Halo and Killzone GAME (doesn't matter if it's handheld, re-release, crappy spinoff or whatever) released this gen (2005-today). The fourth and fifth lines compare every Halo and Killzone MAIN SERIES ENTRY (not including handheld titles, re-releases, or crappy spinoffs, but instead legitimate entries into the franchise). Halo pulls ahead in BOTH criteria.It's quite interesting how cows never seem to mention R3 and Killzone 3 aside from Killzone 3's graphics.......
1.Resistance 2 is vastly superior to resistance 1 and 3 and killzone 2 it atleast has a coherent and worthwhile story compared to resistance 1 and 3 and killzone 2 as well as actual worthwhile characters.
2.halo 4 is superior to them simple as that.It seems to be backwards month lately...Charlie sheen's used to claim that 10/10 Mgs4 invalidated all the 360's library at the time...now older games like killzone 2 and resistacne 2 are some how invalidating newer games? thats just laughable.
WilliamRLBaker
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]It's quite interesting how cows never seem to mention R3 and Killzone 3 aside from Killzone 3's graphics. probably because Resistance 3 is a horrible game with many design methods that are 20+ years old *see design concepts fron games like hexen, and doom 2* about the only time charlie sheen's mention resistance 1 is when they say it was better then resistance 2...even though resistance 2 was superior in every way like the way of not looking like a ps2 game with nintendo 64 graphic concepts.......
1.Resistance 2 is vastly superior to resistance 1 and 3 and killzone 2 it atleast has a coherent and worthwhile story compared to resistance 1 and 3 and killzone 2 as well as actual worthwhile characters.
2.halo 4 is superior to them simple as that.It seems to be backwards month lately...Charlie sheen's used to claim that 10/10 Mgs4 invalidated all the 360's library at the time...now older games like killzone 2 and resistacne 2 are some how invalidating newer games? thats just laughable.
BPoole96
[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]It's quite interesting how cows never seem to mention R3 and Killzone 3 aside from Killzone 3's graphics. probably because Resistance 3 is a horrible game with many design methods that are 20+ years old *see design concepts fron games like hexen, and doom 2* about the only time charlie sheen's mention resistance 1 is when they say it was better then resistance 2...even though resistance 2 was superior in every way like the way of not looking like a ps2 game with nintendo 64 graphic concepts. It's a shame R2 didn't get more support. I liked R1 when it released but couldn't go back to it after R2 due to how much better it was. Probably due to the okayish sales of R2, Insomnoac seemed to go for a CoD clone which failed them miserably. It was also their last Resistance game they said they were making and their second party exclusivity thing with Sony came to an end once they joined EA's Partners program. That's what happens when good games don't get supported.......
1.Resistance 2 is vastly superior to resistance 1 and 3 and killzone 2 it atleast has a coherent and worthwhile story compared to resistance 1 and 3 and killzone 2 as well as actual worthwhile characters.
2.halo 4 is superior to them simple as that.It seems to be backwards month lately...Charlie sheen's used to claim that 10/10 Mgs4 invalidated all the 360's library at the time...now older games like killzone 2 and resistacne 2 are some how invalidating newer games? thats just laughable.
WilliamRLBaker
[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]It's quite interesting how cows never seem to mention R3 and Killzone 3 aside from Killzone 3's graphics. probably because Resistance 3 is a horrible game with many design methods that are 20+ years old *see design concepts fron games like hexen, and doom 2* about the only time charlie sheen's mention resistance 1 is when they say it was better then resistance 2...even though resistance 2 was superior in every way like the way of not looking like a ps2 game with nintendo 64 graphic concepts.......
1.Resistance 2 is vastly superior to resistance 1 and 3 and killzone 2 it atleast has a coherent and worthwhile story compared to resistance 1 and 3 and killzone 2 as well as actual worthwhile characters.
2.halo 4 is superior to them simple as that.It seems to be backwards month lately...Charlie sheen's used to claim that 10/10 Mgs4 invalidated all the 360's library at the time...now older games like killzone 2 and resistacne 2 are some how invalidating newer games? thats just laughable.
WilliamRLBaker
No R1 had a much better campaign, darker, weapon wheel, Health kits, vehicles, scale, and was set in England!
probably because Resistance 3 is a horrible game with many design methods that are 20+ years old *see design concepts fron games like hexen, and doom 2* about the only time charlie sheen's mention resistance 1 is when they say it was better then resistance 2...even though resistance 2 was superior in every way like the way of not looking like a ps2 game with nintendo 64 graphic concepts.[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="BPoole96"] It's quite interesting how cows never seem to mention R3 and Killzone 3 aside from Killzone 3's graphics.ultimate-k
No R1 had a much better campaign, darker, weapon wheel, Health kits, vehicles, scale, and was set in England!
R1 was a ps2 game with n64 graphics It had actual tree's and bushes in your main areas where you could go up and enter the tree seeing that it was just 2 sprites set in + and given a rotate script. the weapon wheel was stupid you had at your control maybe 3 weapons at any given time within a map that had sufficient ammo from enemy drops to be usable having a weapon wheel was stupid. Darker? dont you mean grey it was like most games from that time Grey=edgy when all it meant was stupid there was far more varied colors in resistance 2 and the story was far darker. the antagonist was a mute whom had no real motivation for anything he did...scale lol Resistance 2 had far better scale. Resistance 1 was s*** Resistance 2's 8 player coop instantly makes it better if I ignore every other reason to call it better.This is funny. Not because it's true, but lems did the same thing last year with Uncharted 3 lol. (I remember a sig that said "MW2 = UC3 = 94" lmao)
It'll bounce back to 90 on MC though lems, don't worry. It's Halo, everyone normally gives it 9s and 10s lol. That aside, its sad how cows have had nothing this year besides Journey and .... this... to celebrate over.. lol.
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
[QUOTE="Vatusus"]
very... :roll:
GamerwillzPS
Jelly is the only reason to downplay Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone's contributions to music and culture.
Will you shut up about Madonna crap?
No. Understanding Madonna's career provides insight about the gaming industry.
[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
Jelly is the only reason to downplay Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone's contributions to music and culture.
GreySeal9
Will you shut up about Madonna crap?
No. Understanding Madonna's career provides insight about the gaming industry.
I will admit I understand the gaming industry a lot more now. Thank you GreySeal9.:lol: Halo 4 has really pissed off the cows. Never seen so much damage control over 1 game.
JohnnyCageMK
I did. They were called MGS4, GT5 and TP lol. I'm sure you remember. :lol:
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]
Will you shut up about Madonna crap?
Michael0134567
No. Understanding Madonna's career provides insight about the gaming industry.
I will admit I understand the gaming industry a lot more now. Thank you GreySeal9.You're welcome. I would appreciate it if you'd thank the Queen Madonna as well. I don't why Sony just doesn't go ahead and beg her to save the Vita. Madonna is a very shrewd businesswoman after all.
I will admit I understand the gaming industry a lot more now. Thank you GreySeal9.[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
No. Understanding Madonna's career provides insight about the gaming industry.
GreySeal9
You're welcome. I would appreciate it if you'd thank the Queen Madonna as well. I don't why Sony just doesn't go ahead and beg her to save the Vita. Madonna is a very shrewd businesswoman after all.
Thank you Queen Madonna. That's something Sony should really do.[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]
:lol: Halo 4 has really pissed off the cows. Never seen so much damage control over 1 game.
sanim02
I did. They were called MGS4, GT5 and TP lol. I'm sure you remember. :lol:
Idk why the ps3 fanboys and xbox whores here cant all just accept that halo 4 and mgs4 are both incredible games.[QUOTE="PAL360"]So Killzone 2 >>>>>>>>> Halo, Halo 2 and Halo 3. Ok. Nope. Those all scored higher.Except a 9.0 in 2012 >>> 9.0 in 2008 and 2009. It's called standards...
kuraimen
[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="PAL360"]So Killzone 2 >>>>>>>>> Halo, Halo 2 and Halo 3. Ok. Nope. Those all scored higher. This thread was originally for Metacritic and Killzone 2 scored higher than Halo 4 there :| How many more spins now lems?? Keep it up lolExcept a 9.0 in 2012 >>> 9.0 in 2008 and 2009. It's called standards...
JohnnyCageMK
well that pretty much eliminates all 360 games off the spreadsheetExcept a 9.0 in 2012 >>> 9.0 in 2008 and 2009. It's called standards...
PAL360
[QUOTE="sanim02"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]
:lol: Halo 4 has really pissed off the cows. Never seen so much damage control over 1 game.
ms555
I did. They were called MGS4, GT5 and TP lol. I'm sure you remember. :lol:
Idk why the ps3 fanboys and xbox whores here cant all just accept that halo 4 and mgs4 are both incredible games.Pre-pubescent ego. Anyways I'm done here. This place is like a time capsule, and Imma put it back in the backyard now. :P
Except a 9.0 in 2012 >>> 9.0 in 2008 and 2009. It's called standards...
well that pretty much eliminates all 360 games off the spreadsheet Word. hes taking cows arguments, when they used it for first games that were released, must be a malfunction, he was a working xbot too.......[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] well that pretty much eliminates all 360 games off the spreadsheetPinnacleGamingPWord. hes taking cows arguments, when they used it for first games that were released, must be a malfunction, he was a working xbot too....... Probably RROD
[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Word.kuraimenhes taking cows arguments, when they used it for first games that were released, must be a malfunction, he was a working xbot too....... Probably RROD did you check his warranty papers?
[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] hes taking cows arguments, when they used it for first games that were released, must be a malfunction, he was a working xbot too.......PinnacleGamingPProbably RROD did you check his warranty papers? Yes, it said "You can always buy another."
[ well that pretty much eliminates all 360 games off the spreadsheetPinnacleGamingP
Funny claim, especially considering 360 have been getting far more quality games that PS3, lately.
So Killzone 2 >>>>>>>>> Halo, Halo 2 and Halo 3. Ok.kuraimen
Those games wouldn't score the same today as they scored back in their time....no game would. Are you seriously that surprised?
[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] Have you even played Killzone 2 and Resistance 2? Nah probably not cause that would require owning a console which you don't.JohnnyCageMKLol trying to derail the subject now that your argument is on the floor? And yes I've played them :) Prove it. cant you see the way he talks? the aura.. it only comes with owning a ps3 besides, your the lemming running around claiming you got a ps3 too, yet i dont feel the aura in any of your speech, do you get to play the ps3 or was it just bought?
[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][ well that pretty much eliminates all 360 games off the spreadsheetPAL360
Funny claim, especially considering 360 have been getting far more quality games that PS3, lately.
So Killzone 2 >>>>>>>>> Halo, Halo 2 and Halo 3. Ok.kuraimen
Those games wouldn't score the same today as they scored back in their time....no game would. Are you seriously that surprised?
So now lems don't want to play using scores anymore? Ok you heard it here folks. Lems agree Killzone 2 is better than the original Halo and 2 of its sequels because of standards.This is GameSpot therefore Metacritic doesn't count for anything here. I guess Cows like to make $hit up so they feel like they are winning though.
wut u say about cows you FCKIN B!TCHThis is GameSpot therefore Metacritic doesn't count for anything here. I guess Cows like to make $hit up so they feel like they are winning though.
RyanShazam
Metacritic has always worked for arguments here. There's no restriction to use it. Unless we talk about the metagame but this thread is not about the metagame. And even with the metagame Killzone 2 = Resistance 2 = Halo 4.This is GameSpot therefore Metacritic doesn't count for anything here. I guess Cows like to make $hit up so they feel like they are winning though.
RyanShazam
[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]wut u say about cows you FCKIN B!TCHThis is GameSpot therefore Metacritic doesn't count for anything here. I guess Cows like to make $hit up so they feel like they are winning though.
PinnacleGamingP
Obviously Cows are also incredibly stupid also considering you can't read what I posted.
[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]wut u say about cows you FCKIN B!TCHThis is GameSpot therefore Metacritic doesn't count for anything here. I guess Cows like to make $hit up so they feel like they are winning though.
PinnacleGamingP
So now lems don't want to play using scores anymore? Ok you heard it here folks. Lems agree Killzone 2 is better than the original Halo and 2 of its sequels because of standards.kuraimen
Hmm...do you think Halo CE would score 9.7 today with no online, last gen graphics, etc? It was a brilliant game when it came out, now it's a classic, but obviously outdated. Killzone 2 was more impressive in 2009 than Halo 4 in 2012, but standards exist. Side by side, Halo 4 is most likely the better game. Why do you think Forza 4 scored less than Forza 3?
Anyway, i'm probably talking to a wall, right?
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