Killzone 2 is going to be a dissapointment

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#1 papa_smurf_23
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I'm so tired of people saying a game is good because of its graphics. Example: Killzone 2. The first game was absolute garbage. Now that sony released that cg trailer cows are like OH MY GOSH killzone 2 is gonna kick BUTT. Tell me, does that make any sense at all? Think about it, if the first game was garbage , what makes you think the second one will be any better? especially when you don't know ANYTHING about the game. COWS- "But...but did you see the trailer?It was in real time!!" WRONG!!! NOBODY has confirmed the trailer was in real time. I would bet my life that that wasn't actual gameplay. If killzone 2 turns out to look ANYTHING like the trailer, i will confess the ps3's superiority to the 360

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It might dissapoint all the haters by being really good but absolutely no one is expecting it to be extremely good. There's a hope and really a decent chance so we're all just waiting to see it at E3. Topics about how people shouldn't be excited about Killzone2 are really the only ones about Killzone2 these days anyways. Just wait for some damn E3 videos.
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CRYSTAL BALLS FTW

the guy above me couldnt have put it better

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legalize3

So using ur logic..killzone wont get good til killzone 3 is out...

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#8 TreyoftheDead
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Killzone not being well received is not proof that the same fate awaits Killzone 2.

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#9 legalize3
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killaj2786

So using ur logic..killzone wont get good til killzone 3 is out...

no that means past crap games cant confirm future failures...

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legalize3

So using ur logic..killzone wont get good til killzone 3 is out...

no that means past crap games cant confirm future failures...

Nothing more needs to be said here folks.

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I'm so tired of people saying a game is good because of its graphics. Example: Killzone 2. The first game was absolute garbage. Now that sony released that cg trailer cows are like OH MY GOSH killzone 2 is gonna kick BUTT. Tell me, does that make any sense at all? Think about it, if the first game was garbage , what makes you think the second one will be any better? especially when you don't know ANYTHING about the game. COWS- "But...but did you see the trailer?It was in real time!!" WRONG!!! NOBODY has confirmed the trailer was in real time. I would bet my life that that wasn't actual gameplay. If killzone 2 turns out to look ANYTHING like the trailer, i will confess the ps3's superiority to the 360

papa_smurf_23

Im willing to take this challenge against u and say killzone 2 will be a success and u will get owned. If not then ill accept ownage and be considered system wars biggest joke. Deal? Man for sony 2 put 20 million on this project, I dont expect nothing lower then a 8.8 coming from killzone 2 from gamespot, this is how much faith I have in sony to finally bring out an fps alot of ps2 owners have been waiting for. Dont get me wrong, Resistance fall of Man has already been great to us ps3 owners but I think sony will help guerilla finally bring something special in the fps genre to add to its arsenal.

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[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

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legalize3

So using ur logic..killzone wont get good til killzone 3 is out...

no that means past crap games cant confirm future failures...

we'll see if that's true next month ( hopefully...if they dont delay it)

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#13 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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I'm so tired of people saying a game is good because of its graphics. Example: Killzone 2. The first game was absolute garbage. Now that sony released that cg trailer cows are like OH MY GOSH killzone 2 is gonna kick BUTT. Tell me, does that make any sense at all? Think about it, if the first game was garbage , what makes you think the second one will be any better? especially when you don't know ANYTHING about the game. COWS- "But...but did you see the trailer?It was in real time!!" WRONG!!! NOBODY has confirmed the trailer was in real time. I would bet my life that that wasn't actual gameplay. If killzone 2 turns out to look ANYTHING like the trailer, i will confess the ps3's superiority to the 360

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says the number 1 with 4 posts.

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#15 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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legalize3

no....

I didn't realize KZ1 went from a birds eye view, had no voice acting, you couldn't see a thing or what was 10 feet infront of you to a full functioning 3D world... :roll:

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#16 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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legalize3

So using ur logic..killzone wont get good til killzone 3 is out...

no that means past crap games cant confirm future failures...

It's not a proven franchise yet, not even a proven AA franchise yet. So people have enough evidence to doubt it, people can even doubt halo 3, which people do because it isn't a proven AAA franchise yet either.

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#17 legalize3
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[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

gta2 6.x

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KAS3Y_JAM3Z

So using ur logic..killzone wont get good til killzone 3 is out...

no that means past crap games cant confirm future failures...

It's not a proven franchise yet, not even a proven AA franchise yet. So people have enough evidence to doubt it, people can even doubt halo 3, which people do because it isn't a proven AAA franchise yet either.

psp version has a 8.x

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#18 pretzelmeister
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killaj2786

So using ur logic..killzone wont get good til killzone 3 is out...

Well, sort of. Killzone 2 was already good (Also known as Killzone: Liberation, confirmed by the devs as the second in the series), so I would assume there is a chance of Killzone PS3 being even better, considering the budget.

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#19 legalize3
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no....

I didn't realize KZ1 went from a birds eye view, had no voice acting, you couldn't see a thing or what was 10 feet infront of you to a full functioning 3D world... :roll:

the budget they have now you wil be amazed what you can do with that

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#20 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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[QUOTE="KAS3Y_JAM3Z"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

gta2 6.x

gta3 9.x

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legalize3

So using ur logic..killzone wont get good til killzone 3 is out...

no that means past crap games cant confirm future failures...

It's not a proven franchise yet, not even a proven AA franchise yet. So people have enough evidence to doubt it, people can even doubt halo 3, which people do because it isn't a proven AAA franchise yet either.

psp version has a 8.x

you need more than one AA game...

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#21 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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[QUOTE="KAS3Y_JAM3Z"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

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legalize3

no....

I didn't realize KZ1 went from a birds eye view, had no voice acting, you couldn't see a thing or what was 10 feet infront of you to a full functioning 3D world... :roll:

the budget they have now you wil be amazed what you can do with that

talent and a good dev team is what makes a game good. And gurellia hasn't proved them selves just yet.

waterworld was one of the most expensive movies of all time, and it did TERRIBLE (i know it's a movie and blah blah blah) but still, money isn't everything, and it doesn't gurantee a good game.

let me ask you a question, what do you think of halo 3?

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#22 legalize3
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no....

I didn't realize KZ1 went from a birds eye view, had no voice acting, you couldn't see a thing or what was 10 feet infront of you to a full functioning 3D world... :roll:

the budget they have now you wil be amazed what you can do with that

talent and a good dev team is what makes a game good. And gurellia hasn't proved them selves just yet.

waterworld was one of the most expensive movies of all time, and it did TERRIBLE (i know it's a movie and blah blah blah) but still, money isn't everything, and it doesn't gurantee a good game.

let me ask you a question, what do you think of halo 3?

halo is a good game but that doesnt mean halo 3 will be a good game it probably will but people need to wait and see...

you just cant say hey this developer made a crap game the next game will be crap....

i mean oni wasnt a good game either did that mean halo will be crap also NO

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#23 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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[QUOTE="KAS3Y_JAM3Z"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="KAS3Y_JAM3Z"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

gta2 6.x

gta3 9.x

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legalize3

no....

I didn't realize KZ1 went from a birds eye view, had no voice acting, you couldn't see a thing or what was 10 feet infront of you to a full functioning 3D world... :roll:

the budget they have now you wil be amazed what you can do with that

talent and a good dev team is what makes a game good. And gurellia hasn't proved them selves just yet.

waterworld was one of the most expensive movies of all time, and it did TERRIBLE (i know it's a movie and blah blah blah) but still, money isn't everything, and it doesn't gurantee a good game.

let me ask you a question, what do you think of halo 3?

halo is a good game but that doesnt mean halo 3 will be a good game it probably will but people need to wait and see...

you just cant say hey this developer made a crap game the next game will be crap....

i mean oni wasnt a good game either did that mean halo will be crap also NO

exactly. Same thing can be said about killzone, except killzone doesn't have the best track record. Halo has a better track record for scores and sales and in every other aspect. Both killzone and halo have a good chance of either being great or failures, but halo 3, statistically speaking, has a better chance of being a success and doing better. while killzone does not.

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I'm so tired of people saying a game is good because of its graphics. Example: Killzone 2. The first game was absolute garbage. Now that sony released that cg trailer cows are like OH MY GOSH killzone 2 is gonna kick BUTT. Tell me, does that make any sense at all? Think about it, if the first game was garbage , what makes you think the second one will be any better? especially when you don't know ANYTHING about the game. COWS- "But...but did you see the trailer?It was in real time!!" WRONG!!! NOBODY has confirmed the trailer was in real time. I would bet my life that that wasn't actual gameplay. If killzone 2 turns out to look ANYTHING like the trailer, i will confess the ps3's superiority to the 360

papa_smurf_23


Lmao, your argument just went down the drain with that line. If we don't know ANYTHING about the game how do you know it's going to be a dissapointment? Just because the first game in a series doesn't do well doesn't automatically mean the second one will as well. Similarily, a great first game doesn't guarentee a great second game in a series. And at this point, no one (not even cows) believe that the CGI '05 trailer is real-time. This thread is pointless.
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Btw TC, looks like you got the ban-hammer...Why are you capitalizing words when you type, how long have you been on SW?
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#26 daveg1
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it wont live up to the trailer but expect it to surpass resistence by far.....

EDIT: graphicaly anyway:)

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Humans... making stupid bets 24/7...

I will just sit here with my computer and watch the firefights at night.

Trebuchet!!!!!!!!
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GTA2 was awesome:?
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[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

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legalize3

So using ur logic..killzone wont get good til killzone 3 is out...

no that means past crap games cant confirm future failures...

yeah, but look how the graphics and gameplay changed, 2d birds eye view, into 3rd person fully 3d (which helped the game a lot).
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[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

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OGTiago

So using ur logic..killzone wont get good til killzone 3 is out...

no that means past crap games cant confirm future failures...

yeah, but look how the graphics and gameplay changed, 2d birds eye view, into 3rd person fully 3d (which helped the game a lot).

Killzone's probelm was that it was very unpolished and rushed. Now, they're apparently not rushing the game, so look how things could change with that.

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The reason I think it has potential is because of the 120 dev team, $21 million budget and the very long dev time.

The original was rushed, and that doesn't seem to be happening for the PS3 version. I'm hopeful it'll be a good game but I'm not holding my breath.

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[QUOTE="KAS3Y_JAM3Z"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

gta2 6.x

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legalize3

So using ur logic..killzone wont get good til killzone 3 is out...

no that means past crap games cant confirm future failures...

It's not a proven franchise yet, not even a proven AA franchise yet. So people have enough evidence to doubt it, people can even doubt halo 3, which people do because it isn't a proven AAA franchise yet either.

psp version has a 8.x

Which wasn't even an FPS, completely deviated from the original formula, and is Guerrilla's ONLY game to score above 7.0...

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The first Killzone wasn't bad at all. Some bugs here and there but i just lived with them and went on. I love the backdrop of the story and was a good game. The online was great too. I would prefer to play Halo over it but it was no where near a bad game.

I will be surprised if Killzone PS3 is anything lower than a AAA title. Money, support, and the devs learned from their mistakes will make this game great.

Also it is way too early to say anything and I mean anything about Killzone PS3. Just wait a few more weeks.

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#35 toxicmog
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legalize3

GTA 1 & 2 hardly anyone liked due to the overhead camera.

I personally loved them both :P

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I'm so tired of people saying a game is good because of its graphics. Example: Killzone 2. The first game was absolute garbage. Now that sony released that cg trailer cows are like OH MY GOSH killzone 2 is gonna kick BUTT. Tell me, does that make any sense at all? Think about it, if the first game was garbage , what makes you think the second one will be any better? especially when you don't know ANYTHING about the game. COWS- "But...but did you see the trailer?It was in real time!!" WRONG!!! NOBODY has confirmed the trailer was in real time. I would bet my life that that wasn't actual gameplay. If killzone 2 turns out to look ANYTHING like the trailer, i will confess the ps3's superiority to the 360

papa_smurf_23

By now, everyone has accepted the fact that that was cgi.

So, why are you saying that it will be a dissaspointment when nobody knows anything bout it? See, that doesn't make you any different then them.

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#37 SergeantSnitch
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I'm so tired of people saying a game is good because of its graphics. Example: Killzone 2. The first game was absolute garbage. Now that sony released that cg trailer cows are like OH MY GOSH killzone 2 is gonna kick BUTT. Tell me, does that make any sense at all? Think about it, if the first game was garbage , what makes you think the second one will be any better? especially when you don't know ANYTHING about the game. COWS- "But...but did you see the trailer?It was in real time!!" WRONG!!! NOBODY has confirmed the trailer was in real time. I would bet my life that that wasn't actual gameplay. If killzone 2 turns out to look ANYTHING like the trailer, i will confess the ps3's superiority to the 360

OXIIIIXO

By now, everyone has accepted the fact that that was cgi.

So, why are you saying that it will be a dissaspointment when nobody knows anything bout it? See, that doesn't make you any different then them.


ROFL, I pointed that same exact sentence out in my post too!
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#38 Devilwillcry
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This is just a stupid lemming topic. The first Killzone had some great ideas and was an amazing looking game in terms of graphics. The game had some severe framerate issues and you could tell that the game was a little too ambitious for the PS2's hardware. I happen to own Killzone:liberation for PSP and it is a actually very good. I am guessing you have never played either killzone games. I am also guess you are one of the few who also did not experience the undeniable awesomeness that was the PS2. I hope Killzone blows everything out of the water because the PS3 deserves it for all the crap its been taking. Take this into consideration when you talk about killzone: Killzone is a first party title that has been in development as long asthe PS3 has been known of, maybe longer.Killzone is also being hyped by Sony's PR to be a graphical showcase, something you simply do not say unless your game looks atleast as good as the current benchamark. It was also revealed that the game has an absolutley massive budget. Face it people, at this point the game is going to AT LEAST have amazing graphics. If you read what some of the GG devs are saying about Killzone on the KZ2 forums, Killzone will have a heavy reliance on completely destructable environements, realistic physics, new animation techniques, HDR lighting, and rich multiplayer features. So ifyou factor those things in, the game will have more than the graphics.At this point it doesn't matter if the game looksbetter than Crysis,Xbots will just dismiss no matter how great the game looks and plays.
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legalize3
after gta i thought i would never see it again. :lol:
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#40 -voodoo_child-
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killaj2786

So using ur logic..killzone wont get good til killzone 3 is out...

Wel if you're gonna get picky, KZ PS3 is KZ3.

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#41 CJL13
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Wait till E3.
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legalize3
You did not just compare the game that reinvented the sandbox genre with a tired wannabe "Halo killer".
Guerilla isn't fit to lick dogcrap from the soles of Rockstar's shoes.  Not only is there no comparison, there's nothing even remotely resembling one.
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#43 CyanX73
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I'm so tired of people saying a game is good because of its graphics. Example: Killzone 2. The first game was absolute garbage. Now that sony released that cg trailer cows are like OH MY GOSH killzone 2 is gonna kick BUTT. Tell me, does that make any sense at all? Think about it, if the first game was garbage , what makes you think the second one will be any better? especially when you don't know ANYTHING about the game. COWS- "But...but did you see the trailer?It was in real time!!" WRONG!!! NOBODY has confirmed the trailer was in real time. I would bet my life that that wasn't actual gameplay. If killzone 2 turns out to look ANYTHING like the trailer, i will confess the ps3's superiority to the 360

papa_smurf_23

What was garbage about the first game? Did you throw flowers at the enemy? Were the enemies and heroes boring? What was garbage? The graphics right? Well PS3 can give better grapics. Was it the gameplay? The game has been worked on for years now. And the devs have been given a huge budget. And everyone knows the trailer was fake. This post is about 2 years late TC. But at least your honest enough to admit that if it looks as good as the trailer you'll be impressed. Your level oneness is so obvious ergo this post TC.

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#44 insomnia37
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CRYSTAL BALLS FTW

the guy above me couldnt have put it better

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Hey, I was going to say that:(

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#45 AtomicLightbulb
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People can't say the game is gonna be amazing, just like you can't say the game is gonna be garbage.

We know nothing about it.

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#46 CyanX73
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People can't say the game is gonna be amazing, just like you can't say the game is gonna be garbage.

We know nothing about it.

AtomicLightbulb

Exactly. It's all opinion at this point. And I don't want to hear anymore about KZ 1 being garbage for PS2. If this game were coming to PS2 I could maybe agree with that but it's coming to a system much more advanced than PS2 thus allowing devs to do much more with the game. Lets hold off on all the KZ sux/rules stuff until E3.

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#47 Swift_Boss_A
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Just because the first Killzone sucked doesn't mean the PS3 version will also suck, this time Sony have heavily backed Guirrilla in the development of PS3 Killzone. There is so much going on for this game.

Besides your just angry that Halo 3 looks dissapointing, I am certain that Halo 3 will be the Zelda TP of this year, Gamespot-wise.

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#48 osirisomeomi
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We have no idea whther or not it'll be good. Sony's throwong a lot money at it, but I don't know if that means it'll be a good game or not. It'll have high production values, sure, but will it be a good game? We'll see at e3! Hey, that rhymes.

We'll see at e3!

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#49 CyanX73
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Just because the first Killzone sucked doesn't mean the PS3 version will also suck, this time Sony have heavily backed Guirrilla in the development of PS3 Killzone. There is so much going on for this game.

Besides your just angry that Halo 3 looks dissapointing, I am certain that Halo 3 will be the Zelda TP of this year, Gamespot-wise.

Swift_Boss_A

Not that Halo needs to be a graphical beast to sell millions but it does look like Halo 2.5 more than Halo 3. In fact, I'd bet the game could be run on an Xbox.

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#50 AfterShafter
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Killzone not being well received is not proof that the same fate awaits Killzone 2.

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"not being well received?" That a nice way of saying that Guerilla is a crappy developer that made a crappy game?