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#1 Nintendo_Man
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It ain't going to happen cows, the game won't even be AAA like many of your over hyped games. So i am wondering if any fanboys still going to call Killzone 2 a Halo killer?

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#2 Not-A-Stalker
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Standards change over time. A GS reviewer does not have to like Killzone 2 more than Halo 3 for it to be a better game.
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#3 -Tretiak
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Even if it does score higher (which it won't), nothing will ever kill the Halo series unless the series itself dwindles into mediocrity.
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#4 ToScA-
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I think most would settle with 9.5. Heck, even a 9.0 would be huge to me after that monstrous flop of a predecessor.
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#5 Not-A-Stalker
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By the way, no one is calling it a Halo killer anyways. Why did you make this topic? :|
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#6 CrazyCarter
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nothing will kill halo. its just too popular. and judging by the way first party devs make games for the ps3 so far killzone 2 will most likely flop.
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#7 pminooei
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i don't think no game will ever get 10 in gamespot. also KZ2 isn't meant to be a halo killer, cause it's not even released in the same year as each other :P
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#8 JiveT
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Cows rave about Killzone2 all the time. It could still be a great game who knows? Its hard to get a 9.5 though.
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#9 Cedmln
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ITs not officially hyped the halo killer anymore you know that right? Only a select few are doing that.

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#10 ZanuffC
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Saying it needs a 10 to be a Halo killer is like some sort of strange damage control, there are and will be better games that score lower.
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#11 Timstuff
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If Killzone gets a 9.0 then it's already argueably a Halo killer since a 9.0 is roughly equivelent to a 9.5 a year earlier. Standards get higher each year, so a game that gets a 9.0 today could be better than a game that got a 9.5 a year or two earlier. If Killzone 2 gets AAA, then that automatically puts it in Halo's neighborhood more or less.
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#13 Mordred19
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Killzone isn't looking to kill anything. These are the words of the GG developer at GDC: "We don't really care about what other shooters are doing. We're just focused on making the best game we can."

Theysound like they really want a war, don't they? :roll:

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#14 Pariah_001
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It doesn't need to get a high score to kill anything. It just needs to be a good game.
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#15 Spyderfan1212
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Can I ask what exactly a Halo killer is? No matter how good Killzone 2 gets Halowill not suddenly be aweful. The sales are not all the sudden going to go down to 0. I mean seriousely there is not and will not be anything thats a Halo killer.
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#16 too_much_eslim
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It ain't going to happen cows, the game won't even be AAA like many of your over hyped games. So i am wondering if any fanboys still going to call Killzone 2 a Halo killer?

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To be a Halo killer it would need to be a phenomena. Unfortunately no game will ever get that status. The game has recieved recognition to be up there with Star wars. Killzone doesn't have a cult following, andit is not going to recieve the same hype as Halo.
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#17 The_Ish
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Nah, I don't think thats what it needs to be a Halo killer.

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#18 PowerFiend
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Killzone 2 was never hyped as a Halo killer, no game will "kill" halo, it's gotten too much recognition.
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#19 BioShockOwnz
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I guess Halo is that damn good if the Sony faithful won't step up to plate and say Killzone 2 will be rated higher. :)
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#20 bragac200
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Killzone is a joke.
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#21 Spartan_024
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Forget about being a Halo killer. Just make a decent game, Guerilla.
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#22 MaximumD
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Cows don't hype this as halo killer, only lemmings.
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#23 BioShockOwnz
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Cows don't hype this as halo killer, only lemmings.MaximumD

Nope, I've seen many cows hype it as being better without even playing it. :|

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#24 Mordred19
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[QUOTE="MaximumD"]Cows don't hype this as halo killer, only lemmings.BioShockOwnz

Nope, I've seen many cows hype it as being better without even playing it. :|

a small minority of extreme fanboys at the most. I doubt it's enough to qualify as "many" by comparison to the total population of PS3 owners here.

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#26 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="MaximumD"]Cows don't hype this as halo killer, only lemmings.Mordred19

Nope, I've seen many cows hype it as being better without even playing it. :|

a small minority of extreme fanboys at the most. I doubt it's enough to qualify as "many" by comparison to the total population of PS3 owners here.

Most of them do bash Halo 3 and then praise KZ2, yet they don't think it can outscore it. Quite odd.

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#29 Paktahn
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Standards change over time. A GS reviewer does not have to like Killzone 2 more than Halo 3 for it to be a better game. Not-A-Stalker

Damage control already? Lets just say it won't be as good for it's time as Halo 3 is for it's time and unless your waiting until Killzone 2 is out to play Halo 3 that's all that should matter. Only way you could possibly compare otherwise you could say any AA or even A game would have been AAA if released years ago.

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#30 CaseyWegner
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killzone had better be hyped AAA when it's time for the official thread.
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#31 Lazy_Boy88
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Funny thing is Halo3 would've been lucky to break 9 if it came out later this year. After UT3, CoD4, Haze it'll be looking a lot worse. Killzone2 is going to be rated on completely different standards with a ton of great FPSs coming out before it. If KZ2 gets a 9 it's probably a better game than Halo.
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Funny thing is Halo3 would've been lucky to break 9 if it came out later this year. After UT3, CoD4, Haze it'll be looking a lot worse. Killzone2 is going to be rated on completely different standards with a ton of great FPSs coming out before it. If KZ2 gets a 9 it's probably a better game than Halo.Lazy_Boy88

and what in the world would you have to base that claim on? :|

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#33 joker730
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im hyping killzone 2 AA and and if it gets 8.5 then thats great from being KZ1a 6.9 to AA then im happy, and by the way no one hyping kz2 to be the halo killer

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#34 Nike_Air
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killzone had better be hyped AAA when it's time for the official thread. CaseyWegner
Why ? Because what they showed happened to look awesome so far and people are excited about the game ? Lets not get ahead of ourselves , we still have a lot to learn about the features and modes of the game and we haven't seen much of it. Sure , it automatically is going to get AA hype because any decent exclusive should get there but no need to thrust it up to AAA justyet. Let the process take take of itself.

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#35 kozzy1234
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Didnt i hear Killzone would be TEH HALO KILLER? :lol:
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Funny thing is Halo3 would've been lucky to break 9 if it came out later this year. After UT3, CoD4, Haze it'll be looking a lot worse. Killzone2 is going to be rated on completely different standards with a ton of great FPSs coming out before it. If KZ2 gets a 9 it's probably a better game than Halo.Lazy_Boy88

Haha, thanks for the laugh.

FPS's aren't really being reinvented over the next 3 months.

Good luck with Haze and KZ2, you're gonna need it.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]killzone had better be hyped AAA when it's time for the official thread. Nike_Air

Why ? Because what they showed happened to look awesome so far and people are excited about the game ? Lets not get ahead of ourselves , we still have a lot to learn about the features and modes of the game and we haven't seen much of it. Sure , it automatically is going to get AA hype because any decent exclusive should get there but no need to thrust it up to AAA justyet. Let the process take take of itself.

because having to listen to months of hype for the game only to have it lowered when it comes time to play for keeps is very annoying.

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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]killzone had better be hyped AAA when it's time for the official thread. CaseyWegner

Why ? Because what they showed happened to look awesome so far and people are excited about the game ? Lets not get ahead of ourselves , we still have a lot to learn about the features and modes of the game and we haven't seen much of it. Sure , it automatically is going to get AA hype because any decent exclusive should get there but no need to thrust it up to AAA justyet. Let the process take take of itself.

because having to listen to months of hype for the game only to have it lowered when it comes time to play for keeps is very annoying.

I agree. It's being hyped as one of the best FPS's by the fanboys. I've seen them hype it to be better than Crysis and Halo. It better damned well be hyped as AAA. :)

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#39 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]killzone had better be hyped AAA when it's time for the official thread. CaseyWegner

Why ? Because what they showed happened to look awesome so far and people are excited about the game ? Lets not get ahead of ourselves , we still have a lot to learn about the features and modes of the game and we haven't seen much of it. Sure , it automatically is going to get AA hype because any decent exclusive should get there but no need to thrust it up to AAA justyet. Let the process take take of itself.

because having to listen to months of hype for the game only to have it lowered when it comes time to play for keeps is very annoying.

We argued about this before. Just let things take care of themselves. I think every game that deserved AAA hype has gotten it so far , and one that probably didn't really derseve to be there (HS) managed to get there because cows were desperate and that is fine. A couple of games will get overhyped and they will flop like HS. The only other game that was a shocker that the fanboys backed out on was Lost Odyssey. How did that only get hyped A ? If Killzone is looking good closer to release , people are going to take it to AAA. If it is not looking good at the time , they won't. Initial enthusiam should not be held against people , that is a reason for the system right ?

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#40 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]killzone had better be hyped AAA when it's time for the official thread. BioShockOwnz

Why ? Because what they showed happened to look awesome so far and people are excited about the game ? Lets not get ahead of ourselves , we still have a lot to learn about the features and modes of the game and we haven't seen much of it. Sure , it automatically is going to get AA hype because any decent exclusive should get there but no need to thrust it up to AAA justyet. Let the process take take of itself.

because having to listen to months of hype for the game only to have it lowered when it comes time to play for keeps is very annoying.

I agree. It's being hyped as one of the best FPS's by the fanboys. I've seen them hype it to be better than Crysis and Halo. It better damned well be hyped as AAA. :)

I disagree. Anecdotal evidence ofa select group ofextreme fanboys means very little. You can't hold that against the entire group.
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#41 DeathIsARight
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It ain't going to happen cows, the game won't even be AAA like many of your over hyped games. So i am wondering if any fanboys still going to call Killzone 2 a Halo killer?

Nintendo_Man

Wanna know a secret? We don't care. All that matters is if WE like it, and you hating a game won't change that. And Halo is overrated, play farcry to see why.

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We argued about this before. Just let things take care of themselves. I think every game that deserved AAA hype has gotten it so far , and one that probably didn't really derseve to be there (HS) managed to get there because cows were desperate and that is fine. A couple of games will get overhyped and they will flop like HS. The only other game that was a shocker that the fanboys backed out on was Lost Odyssey. How did that only get hyped A ? If Killzone is looking good closer to release , people are going to take it to AAA. If it is not looking good at the time , they won't. Initial enthusiam should not be held against people , that is a reason for the system right ?

Nike_Air

lair officially being hyped AA was nearly vomit inducing. warhawk and blue dragon are other examples of games that had their hype lowered. the purpose of those hype threads is not to play it safe. honesty is a bit too much to ask for here much of the time though. if we're going to have to read people praising a game like it's the second coming then they should be held accountable for it.

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#43 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Man"]

It ain't going to happen cows, the game won't even be AAA like many of your over hyped games. So i am wondering if any fanboys still going to call Killzone 2 a Halo killer?

DeathIsARight

Wanna know a secret? We don't care. All that matters is if WE like it, and you hating a game won't change that. And Halo is overrated, play farcry to see why.

how about you just explain why?

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#44 DeathIsARight
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[QUOTE="DeathIsARight"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Man"]

It ain't going to happen cows, the game won't even be AAA like many of your over hyped games. So i am wondering if any fanboys still going to call Killzone 2 a Halo killer?

CaseyWegner

Wanna know a secret? We don't care. All that matters is if WE like it, and you hating a game won't change that. And Halo is overrated, play farcry to see why.

how about you just explain why?

It is just an personalOpinion of mine, I think the graphics, story and controls were better, and the difficulty made it more of a challenge.

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A perfect 10 rating is a rating that should be preserved for the game that truely out does itself in ever single aspect. A perfect 10 is the game that completly revolutionizes the genre, type of game, and how people look at it. I am going to say it right now, there will never ever be a game that can "kill" Halo to the point where people forget about it.

Killzone 2 will have aspects of its game where it is 10x better than Halo 3. There will be something in Halo 3 that are 10x better than KZ2. We just dont know.

All i know is Killzone 2 is going to be sick and will be a great game as will and is at this point in time Halo 3.

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#46 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

We argued about this before. Just let things take care of themselves. I think every game that deserved AAA hype has gotten it so far , and one that probably didn't really derseve to be there (HS) managed to get there because cows were desperate and that is fine. A couple of games will get overhyped and they will flop like HS. The only other game that was a shocker that the fanboys backed out on was Lost Odyssey. How did that only get hyped A ? If Killzone is looking good closer to release , people are going to take it to AAA. If it is not looking good at the time , they won't. Initial enthusiam should not be held against people , that is a reason for the system right ?

CaseyWegner

lair officially being hyped AA was nearly vomit inducing. warhawk and blue dragon are other examples of games that had their hype lowered. the purpose of those hype threads is not to play it safe. honesty is a bit too much to ask for here much of the time though. if we're going to have to read people praising a game like it's the second coming then they should be held accountable for it.

You seriously want games like Lair and Warhawk to be hyped AAA so you can take pleasure inwatchingother people rubbing a flop in the faces ofan entiregroup ? Do those games strike you as games that the group as a whole expects to be AAA ?

If you are going to act this way then the system must be thrown away immediately and we can go back to claiming everything was hyped AAA and we we bump threads and claim ownage anywhere we can. We can argue over and over about what game was hyped and what game wasn't hype and so on.

I know you want to take pleasure in these flops , but jeez..... look at someone else's perspective. I don't want to be ridiculed because some kids are going to hypeThe Getaway AAA.

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All we know about it's superior graphics, lighting, engine...etc, it is something new and big, but to make it perfect is something else, they have to do something everybody will remember for the rest of their life, something memorable, that's the first thing, the gameplay is a big factor to make a game(gameplay is also sometimes become something memorable), if they do something new to the genre, something will keep you coming back for this game to play again and again, and Atmosphere is the third thing and i think they got it, then you will see a perfect 10 from GS.

Scores doesn't matter much to me though.

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#48 shazanarkand
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

We argued about this before. Just let things take care of themselves. I think every game that deserved AAA hype has gotten it so far , and one that probably didn't really derseve to be there (HS) managed to get there because cows were desperate and that is fine. A couple of games will get overhyped and they will flop like HS. The only other game that was a shocker that the fanboys backed out on was Lost Odyssey. How did that only get hyped A ? If Killzone is looking good closer to release , people are going to take it to AAA. If it is not looking good at the time , they won't. Initial enthusiam should not be held against people , that is a reason for the system right ?

Nike_Air

lair officially being hyped AA was nearly vomit inducing. warhawk and blue dragon are other examples of games that had their hype lowered. the purpose of those hype threads is not to play it safe. honesty is a bit too much to ask for here much of the time though. if we're going to have to read people praising a game like it's the second coming then they should be held accountable for it.

You seriously want games like Lair and Warhawk to be hyped AAA so you can take pleasure inwatchingother people rubbing a flop in the faces ofan entiregroup ? Do those games strike you as games that the group as a whole expects to be AAA ?

If you are going to act this way then the system must be thrown away immediately and we can go back to claiming everything was hyped AAA and we we bump threads and claim ownage anywhere we can. We can argue over and over about what game was hyped and what game wasn't hype and so on.

I know you want to take pleasure in these flops , but jeez..... look at someone else's perspective. I don't want to be ridiculed because some kids are going to hypeThe Getaway AAA.

I agree to that as well. It was like Lair getting a bad review. I wasn't going to buy it anyways if it got a 9+. That game doesnt appeal to me. Its annoying when people bring up the Lair 4.5 crap. Its also annoying when people rate halo 3 a perfect 10. Its not. Halo 1 easily takes the cake on being better.

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#49 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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By the way, no one is calling it a Halo killer anyways. Why did you make this topic? :|Not-A-Stalker

You could say that about 90% of the topics on here. who cares.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="DeathIsARight"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Man"]

It ain't going to happen cows, the game won't even be AAA like many of your over hyped games. So i am wondering if any fanboys still going to call Killzone 2 a Halo killer?

DeathIsARight

Wanna know a secret? We don't care. All that matters is if WE like it, and you hating a game won't change that. And Halo is overrated, play farcry to see why.

how about you just explain why?

It is just an personalOpinion of mine, I think the graphics, story and controls were better, and the difficulty made it more of a challenge.

play halo 3 on legendary and come back to me about the difficulty buddy.