Killzone 2 not in the top 20 for May?

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#1 rp108
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I thought this was suppose to be the best title on the PS3 (next to MGS IV), so what happened? I can't believe that a game with this much development time and hype has sold as little as it has. Although I was looking to get Killzone 2 but now having second thoughts since it looks like a complete flop.

I think this is a pretty clear indication that a majority of people use their PS3s as Blu-ray player first. I definatley do. I think Sony may have screwed themselves. They won the format war at the cost of their gaming division. They better hope PS2 and PSP can keep them a float because if Sony exclusives can't sell on the PS3 then there is no hope for third party development which will eventually mean a game library looking very similar to the Gamecube.

So the question is, why did Killzone 2 have such lousy sales and what can Sony do to actually sell games on their system? Now I know this is the Sony Wars forum but I will let the NPD numbers speak for themselves. Halo 3 is still in the top 20 by the way, almost two year old game.

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#2 DBhova23
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1.66 million sold WW= success NPD does not equal world wide sales.
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#3 ActicEdge
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SO is this like baiting or something. The game can sell under the top 20. Many games sell out of the top 20, you just gotta give em time.

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#4 xbox360isgr8t
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we all know how well kz2 would sell if it were a ms exclusive. it just doesnt get enough advertising and attention. but its gonna be one of many sony games that sell and sell and sell but just at a small amount. i wont be shocked if it were packaged with the ps3 at some point. i mean how much longer do they want to continue with the uncharted 1 bundle when the second game is coming when like in the fall?
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#5 drknockboot2
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Halo 3 is still selling well, because that is the only game you guys have for Xbox360. So anyone who buys a 360 has to get a 2 year old game. A lot more choices here on the PS3 side.

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#6 rp108
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1.66 million sold WW= success NPD does not equal world wide sales.DBhova23

If you are going to claim your franchise the "Halo killer" you better sell more than 1.66 million units worldwide. And what percentage is that for all the PS3s sold?

I am betting it's under 20%, yeah, it's a success.

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#7 pyromaniac223
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Halo 3 is still selling well, because that is the only game you guys have for Xbox360. So anyone who buys a 360 has to get a 2 year old game. A lot more choices here on the PS3 side.

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Let's totally ignore reality and go with this!
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I'm glad it sold well for Guerrilla and Sony ,but more importantly I'm glad it is an excellent game. :D Keep pumping out the hit games.

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#9 GabeNewellsPie
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KZ2 was a sales flop.Notice how cows never bring this game up anymore.Cnsidering the hype levels and what Sony and cows were hoping for ,this game died on its ass.

I've even heard the online community is dwindling already after only a few months.This time next year it will be finished while Halo 3's community goes from strength to strength.

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#10 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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Pass on Killzone 2. It;s a pretty mediocre shooter.
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#11 coolnessmancool
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Halo 3 is still selling well, because that is the only game you guys have for Xbox360. So anyone who buys a 360 has to get a 2 year old game. A lot more choices here on the PS3 side.

drknockboot2

Youre right lets ignore that its a great game and people still want to play it

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#12 Diviniuz
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Killzone 2 imo was a very disappointing shooter, it did not deserve a 9.0. I played the game for about the week, then that's it. I am still not sure that the sales were considered a flop, considering the game is circling 2 million world wide, which is very good however not as high as sony would of liked.

Killzone 2 and LFD are tied as my most disappointing shooters this generation, I wish I didn't buy them. At least I can sell Killzone 2, LFD is on my steam account...

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#13 TheOldOlder
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People will buy it as the userbase grows and Killzone has never been as popular as other shooters, the franchise is like a rising star, give it some time
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[QUOTE="DBhova23"]1.66 million sold WW= success NPD does not equal world wide sales.rp108

If you are going to claim your franchise the "Halo killer" you better sell more than 1.66 million units worldwide. And what percentage is that for all the PS3s sold?

I am betting it's under 20%, yeah, it's a success.

you don't know how to turn that number in to a percentage? :|
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[QUOTE="DBhova23"]1.66 million sold WW= success NPD does not equal world wide sales.rp108

If you are going to claim your franchise the "Halo killer" you better sell more than 1.66 million units worldwide. And what percentage is that for all the PS3s sold?

I am betting it's under 20%, yeah, it's a success.

I'm pretty sure it was the media who coined the phrase of "Halo killer".
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#17 Mr_Apple_Soup
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KZ2 was a sales flop.Notice how cows never bring this game up anymore.Cnsidering the hype levels and what Sony and cows were hoping for ,this game died on its ass.

I've even heard the online community is dwindling already after only a few months.This time next year it will be finished while Halo 3's community goes from strength to strength.

GabeNewellsPie

where did you here that? :|

the online community in killzone is fine, and the new maps GG keeps pumping out are bringing people back for more. Very very very very few ( i cannot stress this enough) games keep the same sized online community 2 or 3 months later. to think the game would put up the same numbers it had in march wouldn't be a very smart to think. and hey, halo 3 averages what? 200 000 players a day or something? that sure as hell "dwindled" from when the game came out.

i dunno what you have against the game tbh, 4 months later its still going strong, around 180 000 players a week strong

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[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

KZ2 was a sales flop.Notice how cows never bring this game up anymore.Cnsidering the hype levels and what Sony and cows were hoping for ,this game died on its ass.

I've even heard the online community is dwindling already after only a few months.This time next year it will be finished while Halo 3's community goes from strength to strength.

Mr_Apple_Soup

where did you here that? :|

the online community in killzone is fine, and the new maps GG keeps pumping out are bringing people back for more. Very very very very few ( i cannot stress this enough) games keep the same sized online community 2 or 3 months later. to think the game would put up the same numbers it had in march wouldn't be a very smart to think. and hey, halo 3 averages what? 200 000 players a day or something? that sure as hell "dwindled" from when the game came out.

i dunno what you have against the game tbh, 4 months later its still going strong, around 180 000 players a week strong

Well actually in the past 24 hours 778,362 unique players have logged on. But I do believe that Killzone 2 is a success sales wise.

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[QUOTE="DBhova23"]1.66 million sold WW= success NPD does not equal world wide sales.rp108

If you are going to claim your franchise the "Halo killer" you better sell more than 1.66 million units worldwide. And what percentage is that for all the PS3s sold?

I am betting it's under 20%, yeah, it's a success.

It was never claimed to be a Halo killer. For some reason people such as yourself seem to bring it up all the time to feel better about your game or something.
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Pass on Killzone 2. It;s a pretty mediocre shooter. Nuck81
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#21 _Peoples_Champ_
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rp108"]

1.66 million sold WW= success NPD does not equal world wide sales.DBhova23

If you are going to claim your franchise the "Halo killer" you better sell more than 1.66 million units worldwide. And what percentage is that for all the PS3s sold?

I am betting it's under 20%, yeah, it's a success.

It was never claimed to be a Halo killer. For some reason people such as yourself seem to bring it up all the time to feel better about your game or something.

It was claimed by the sony fanboys.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rp108"]

If you are going to claim your franchise the "Halo killer" you better sell more than 1.66 million units worldwide. And what percentage is that for all the PS3s sold?

I am betting it's under 20%, yeah, it's a success.

_Peoples_Champ_

It was never claimed to be a Halo killer. For some reason people such as yourself seem to bring it up all the time to feel better about your game or something.

It was claimed by the sony fanboys.

ORLY? Pretty sure it was the media.

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[QUOTE="DBhova23"]1.66 million sold WW= success NPD does not equal world wide sales.rp108

If you are going to claim your franchise the "Halo killer" you better sell more than 1.66 million units worldwide. And what percentage is that for all the PS3s sold?

I am betting it's under 20%, yeah, it's a success.

Good thing Gurellia Games never claimed Killzone 2 was a Halo Killer :roll:

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#24 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rp108"]

If you are going to claim your franchise the "Halo killer" you better sell more than 1.66 million units worldwide. And what percentage is that for all the PS3s sold?

I am betting it's under 20%, yeah, it's a success.

_Peoples_Champ_

It was never claimed to be a Halo killer. For some reason people such as yourself seem to bring it up all the time to feel better about your game or something.

It was claimed by the sony fanboys.

No, it wasn't. It was claimed by 1 or 2 fakeboy/fanboys (such as yourself).

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#25 GodofBigMacs
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Sad that so many in the US, who seem to whore shooters, missed out on Killzone 2... and jumped on the CoD bandwagon.
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#26 15strong
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I am still playing online and it is a lot of fun. Why do we need to talk about sales, do you need a reason to bash it.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rp108"]

If you are going to claim your franchise the "Halo killer" you better sell more than 1.66 million units worldwide. And what percentage is that for all the PS3s sold?

I am betting it's under 20%, yeah, it's a success.

_Peoples_Champ_

It was never claimed to be a Halo killer. For some reason people such as yourself seem to bring it up all the time to feel better about your game or something.

It was claimed by the sony fanboys.

The first game was, after that no one said that from this side ever again.

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#28 ImaPirate0202
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How can something sell over a million units and fail?

I think some of you just have unrealistic expectations.

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#29 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"]Pass on Killzone 2. It;s a pretty mediocre shooter. _Peoples_Champ_
I like your style, a member of the PSN network's opinion.

I don;t really care too much about fanboyism, blind praise,and blind hate. If a game sucks it sucks,
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#30 GodofEmpires
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Personally, I don't care too much about sales. 1.66 million is enough to make an okay profit, enough to make a sequel. I think they sell the game at retailers for $35-45 so 1.66x35 is more than the $40 million or so(I think that's what they said) development cost. Sony needs to work on FPS's to sell in north america more like MS needs to work on JRPG's to sell in Japan more.

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#31 _Verm
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Its sales, what does that have to do with the game?
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#32 GodofEmpires
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making money for the company which they need.

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#33 clembo1990
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This must mean 360 wins. Or at least PS3 loses.
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#34 _Verm
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making money for the company which they need.

GodofEmpires
and tracking individual monthly reports of a games sales relates to games and companies how..??
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#35 Sir_Lawl
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A PS3 exclusive that was hyped to the moon and back as the next best thingby PS3 fanboysfailed to appear in the top 20?

Why is that surprising to anyone? :?

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#36 bphan
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I heard the community is already dying for Killzone 2. Doesn't have the longevity like Halo 3.

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#37 winner-ps3
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yeah 1.66 mill is success, adn u do know that multiplats sell about evenly on both systems, which is bad news for 360, im sry but ps3 wins the games argument easily u should watch E3 again, and u must have forgotten about 2008, ps3 won the game argument then too fact
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#38 finalfantasy94
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I heard the community is already dying for Killzone 2. Doesn't have the longevity like Halo 3.

bphan

Uhh what proof you have its dieing.

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#39 Totalgym9000
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[QUOTE="rp108"]

I thought this was suppose to be the best title on the PS3 (next to MGS IV), so what happened? I can't believe that a game with this much development time and hype has sold as little as it has. Although I was looking to get Killzone 2 but now having second thoughts since it looks like a complete flop.

I think this is a pretty clear indication that a majority of people use their PS3s as Blu-ray player first. I definatley do. I think Sony may have screwed themselves. They won the format war at the cost of their gaming division. They better hope PS2 and PSP can keep them a float because if Sony exclusives can't sell on the PS3 then there is no hope for third party development which will eventually mean a game library looking very similar to the Gamecube.

So the question is, why did Killzone 2 have such lousy sales and what can Sony do to actually sell games on their system? Now I know this is the Sony Wars forum but I will let the NPD numbers speak for themselves. Halo 3 is still in the top 20 by the way, almost two year old game.

Why care about sales so much? it's a really good game offline and on, and over a million people have played the game online so you dont have to worry about nobody being online for a match thats for sure, forget about sales? and just play a really good game.
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#40 3picuri3
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SO is this like baiting or something. The game can sell under the top 20. Many games sell out of the top 20, you just gotta give em time.

ActicEdge
are you ******** kidding me? it just came out. games don't explode, go underground, then come back up...
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#41 Gangstah-Fresh
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The hell, why are people looking into the sales? Unless you have invested in the stock market(if you do that business buy yourself some Apple stocks) there is no need to post this information or make a thread like this. I thought it was a great game, and I would recommend it to anyone who likes games where you kill polygons. Sales have nothing to do with how good a game is, it just speaks on the marketing efforts bud.
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#42 scratch-o-hey
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[QUOTE="rp108"]

[QUOTE="DBhova23"]1.66 million sold WW= success NPD does not equal world wide sales.Chutebox

If you are going to claim your franchise the "Halo killer" you better sell more than 1.66 million units worldwide. And what percentage is that for all the PS3s sold?

I am betting it's under 20%, yeah, it's a success.

It was never claimed to be a Halo killer. For some reason people such as yourself seem to bring it up all the time to feel better about your game or something.

yes it was, i've even seen sigs of kz2 being a halo killer
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#43 Harry_Balzac
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Halo 3 is still selling well, because that is the only game you guys have for Xbox360. So anyone who buys a 360 has to get a 2 year old game. A lot more choices here on the PS3 side.

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#44 RM84x
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TS, you are clearly uninformed. Killzone2 has already DOUBLED the sales of Killzone1. Anyone who says that's bad obviously reads too much into what ppl post here.
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#45 Lolz_Master
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the reason it didnt sell alot was because of the economy and the idiots up in the marketing division who cant advertise games. this game is much better than halo on all aspects.
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#46 0rin
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With the new patch, and new DLC, Killzone 2 is making a great comeback. At least as far as gameplay IMO goes. It's not Call of Duty MW, but it's (a little) better than Halo IMO. That doesn't mean I think it's a "halo killer". Halo is a great game as well, but I prefer Killzones style a little more. Anyway... Killzone is not a "flop, failure, or disgrace" just because it didn't sell within the top 20 3 months after it came out. Anyone that gave up on Killzone more than a month ago (like I did, honestly, only I kept the game) should go back and give it another whirl. Try out the new controller sensitivity (it's REALLY a TON BETTER), as well as them making spawn grenades no longer give you invulnerability, and making it so you automatically join your friends/clans faction when joining their game... You just might find a new love for the game... I sure did. I got bored with this game a while ago. I played it for about a month or so, then stopped up till the latest patch, and now I'm hooked again. I guess you could say it's like a new experience! But whatever. If you want to continue thinking killzone will forever be the same game it was at launch, go ahead. It's just a shame that this patch didn't come out two or three months ago, eh?
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#47 Gxgear
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I think you're mistaken TC, you can't play Killzone 2 on a 360. Even that's common knowledge for lemmings...right?

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#48 Danm_999
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Console games don't typically sell well over a long period of time. Within 2-3 months you'll have seen the majority of their sales. There are exceptions of course, but that's the general trend.
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Its a shame, KZ2 is a game worthy of at least a try. Version 1.27 is the best yet and the new map packs are quality through and through.
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#50 yoyo462001
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[QUOTE="RM84x"]TS, you are clearly uninformed. Killzone2 has already DOUBLED the sales of Killzone1. Anyone who says that's bad obviously reads too much into what ppl post here.

So what if it doubled the sales, you dont balance the books and compare it to the previous game you compare it to how much you spent in development and seeing the opportunity cost of producing it. My guess is when MW2 comes out the amount of K2 players will fall dramatically. In FPS's thats the problem with PS3 has no games that can compete in terms of user base with call of duty.