Killzone 2 Sniping gameplay!

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And Microsoft is doing much better?

MarloStanfield

They still don't spend 50 million dollars on sequels to really bad flops

that's like voting Bush in for a second term

They use it for DLC long after anyone cares about the games...

Looks horrible, especially the bullet lag and reaction. When you get shot by a sniper rifle in the head, your body shouldnt simply flop down.dgsag

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And Microsoft is doing much better?

Eddie-Vedder

They still don't spend 50 million dollars on sequels to really bad flops

that's like voting Bush in for a second term

They use it for DLC long after anyone cares about the games...

Don't forget about Too Human. I'm sure they spent a good amount on that game.

Looks horrible, especially the bullet lag and reaction. When you get shot by a sniper rifle in the head, your body shouldnt simply flop down.dgsag

I agree, the body should not react like that.

boo spawn killing :( at the end... but i guess it's the guys fault for putting the spawn point right in the middle of the battlefield. looks good so far. Hopefully with a match full of skilled players, we could see some real good actions :Oswamplord666

Yeah, it's the players faults for spawning there in the middle of a huge firefight :(.

You can also spawn wherever you want to in between deaths. And there's real time footage of what's going on at each spawn location (some of them are pre determined depending on the map). It's up to the players to choose what predetermined spawn points they want.

Also, if you have accepted a squad invitation during a match, you can choose to spawn next to your squad captain after you die. I think the respawn system is greatly varied :).

[QUOTE="dgsag"]Looks horrible, especially the bullet lag and reaction. When you get shot by a sniper rifle in the head, your body shouldnt simply flop down.dark-warmachine

I agree, the body should not react like that.

Yeah, it didn't look on point at all compared to the amazing single player hit response system.

But it's good to know this beta build is from earlier this year and the game comes out in Feb09 :). I'm glad they are having such a prolonged private beta. KZ2 should be virtually bug free by release.

They use it for DLC long after anyone cares about the games...

Eddie-Vedder

actually Sony are doing a much better job with DLC this gen. arhawk and Motorstorm have been constantly iterated, more than any 360 game. There's also homespaces and map packs and stuff

I think the graphics look great. I can't wait for this game.

And for the Xbox fanboys who are saying this sucks, just grow up. Do ye not have better things to do than put down anything ye can't have.

the graphics are amazing

if only it wasn't a sucky game

MarloStanfield

How do you know it's a sucky game?

How do you know it's a sucky game?

Episode_Eve

Killzone 2

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[QUOTE="dgsag"]Looks horrible, especially the bullet lag and reaction. When you get shot by a sniper rifle in the head, your body shouldnt simply flop down.TREAL_Since

I agree, the body should not react like that.

Yeah, it didn't look on point at all compared to the amazing single player hit response system.

But it's good to know this beta build is from earlier this year and the game comes out in Feb09 :). I'm glad they are having such a prolonged private beta. KZ2 should be virtually bug free by release.

Yea good thing it's just the beta and I have to agree with you here; the enemy's reaction when being shot at in single player mode is pretty fluent.

wow...that looked pretty.....BAD...IMO

lots o' lag, slow/sloppy shotting and gameplay. they all sucked too.

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How do you know it's a sucky game?

MarloStanfield

Killzone 2

Bad explanation :(. GG is virtually a different company since Sony's acquisition. Of course you have the 15-20 employees who were there originally, plus new hires and transfers. The studio is about 100+ now, well, that's at least how many individuals contributed to development (how much is up in the air). Not only that, but Sony is actually putting money into KZ this time around. It's an IP that they own now and they do great by their 1st party games.

GG's have always had cool concepts, but they couldn't execute last gen because of varing reasons. All signs point to KZ2 being a great game.

Bad explanation :(. GG is virtually a different company since Sony's acquisition.

Episode_Eve

No they aren't. It's the same company, that's why they have the same name

adding extra employees doesn't make them awesome and putting money into a game does nothing (look at too human).

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Bad explanation :(. GG is virtually a different company since Sony's acquisition.

MarloStanfield

No they aren't. It's the same company, that's why they have the same name

adding extra employees doesn't make them awesome and putting money into a game does nothing (look at too human).

So Sony adding 100+ employees isn't a drastic change? Getting help from devs such as Insomniac, Incognito, and Sony Santa Monica isn't positive?

This is a revamped company fitted to be a Sony 1st party dev. If you can't see that then, Swoosh! It goes right over your head :P.

Do you honestly think Sony, MS, or Nintendo would pour so much money into a company to make bad games? 1st party studios are truly talented all across the board.

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Bad explanation :(. GG is virtually a different company since Sony's acquisition.

MarloStanfield

No they aren't. It's the same company, that's why they have the same name

adding extra employees doesn't make them awesome and putting money into a game does nothing (look at too human).

Ok. Same name, same game. Look at it like this. A basketball team sucks one year and doesn't make the playoffs. After a few years of good drafting, recruiting, and salary managment they develop into a talented team and make the playoffs. This happens. New talent and management can bring great things :).

Also, take into account that this is a 1st party Sony game. They generally don't bull4h!t when it comes down to that. Also take into account of the positive previews and impressions by journalists (and beta testers alike). And before you say it. Yes. Games do get negative previews...case in point: Too Human :P.

But honestly, franchises can definitely turn around for the better. Look at Devil May Cry 3 after part 2. There are countless other examples.

So Sony adding 100+ employees isn't a drastic change?

TREAL_Since

It's a drastic change but it doesn't automatically make them good developers nor does it erase 8 years of failure. We don't know what capacity those people are working in and we cant automatically assume that they're the most talented developers in the world

Getting help from devs such as Insomniac, Incognito, and Sony Santa Monica isn't positive?

TREAL_Since

it is

This is a revamped company fitted to be a Sony 1st party dev. If you can't see that then, Swoosh! It goes right over your head :P.

Do you honestly think Sony, MS, or Nintendo would pour so much money into a company to make bad games? 1st party studios are truly talented all across the board.

TREAL_Since

I dont think their intention is to make bad games, but bad games are made nonetheless

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So Sony adding 100+ employees isn't a drastic change?

MarloStanfield

It's a drastic change but it doesn't automatically make them good developers nor does it erase 8 years of failure. We don't know what capacity those people are working in and we cant automatically assume that they're the most talented developers in the world

Whoever said they are the most talented devs in the world :?? Not me!

I just have faith (though it's not blind) and when I see a good looking game (mechanics, graphics, and content) I call it ;).

That starting weapon for the ISA sniper looks like the Helghast rifle. Do the ISA not have their own version of a sniper rifle? That's lame if the only sniper weapon in the game is inexplicably from the Helghast forces.Mordred19

That's how it was in KZ :(. But we'll see. Other than that, each faction has a varied and awesome arsenal of weapons.

Looks great. The last 20-30 seconds of that video are O: God this game looks too good.

Does anyone else find it funny... People complaining about lag and bullet response, Gears of War + Halo 3 have those in spades and managed to get 9.5. The video is from the beta, be realistic.

Killzone 2, RE2, Gears 2 ... i am a happy camper.

Not to mention Fable 2. LBP (it's cute) and Left for Dead

Sniper looks too OP.

The graphics look terrible (Maybe its the quality of the vid).

Apart from that, looks fun.

Can't wait.

[QUOTE="hahawatyo"]The dude playing and the gameplay looks pretty crappy.Erik_Lensherr

Yes it does but it's exclusive so the COWS thinks it's the ownzers... I can't wait until this scores 8.5 and see all the account suicides:)

8.5 is an excellent score seeing as the game looks pretty crappy. I call 6.5. Even gamesradar says the gameplay feels extremely suckish

Killzone 2, RE2, Gears 2 ... i am a happy camper.

Not to mention Fable 2. LBP (it's cute) and Left for Dead

ukillwegrill

I'm confused. Didn't that come out years ago?