Killzone 2 the Halo killer? I'm confused.

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#101 -Traveller-
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It was hyped as an excellent game.

Guaranteed a small following hyped it better than Halo, but hardly the majority.

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#102 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

well, frankly, you represent the general opinion here (or so i'd like to believe...)

doesn't mean people aren't allowed to think killzone 2 is a better game then halo

majadamus

I'm trying to look at it objectively as possible. Killzone 2 was suppose to beat Halo 3 in sales, and critical acclaim (according to Cows). It did neither.

Um creators of Killzone came out and said that they didnt expect Killzone 2 to sale as many as it did...now who exactly said this would kill Halo?

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#103 HistoricalSD
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[QUOTE="majadamus"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

well, frankly, you represent the general opinion here (or so i'd like to believe...)

doesn't mean people aren't allowed to think killzone 2 is a better game then halo

brennan7777

I'm trying to look at it objectively as possible. Killzone 2 was suppose to beat Halo 3 in sales, and critical acclaim (according to Cows). It did neither.

Um creators of Killzone came out and said that they didnt expect Killzone 2 to sale as many as it did...now who exactly said this would kill Halo?

well, how about basically every1 owning a playstation 3? am i right?
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#104 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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[QUOTE="majadamus"][QUOTE="Ultramarine777"]

..and by that alone they claimed it to be better than Halo 3. The Halo killer. :Dmajadamus
lol that's not true and you know it, hyping Halo killer is insta failure, you can't kill a videogame with another videogame, maybe if it were on the same console and the exact same style or something. Everytime the PS3 gets a good looking exclusive FPS lemmings are going to claim cows said it's the halo killer and then will get more of these threads. I really see no point in this.

I saw a Cow with a signature that stood for "Halo Killer"...so I had to post a thread about it. :P

ok so you saw ONE cow with that sig and you immediatly think they represent EVERY cow in SW? great logic. the vast majority of cows didnt hype KZ2 as a halo killer. they hyped the 1st one as a halo killer though, and got owned, but not the second one, at least not the majority. i know how much you want to believe that they did so you could rub it in their faces but sorry, this is a desperate attempt at ownage.
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#105 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

[QUOTE="majadamus"] I'm trying to look at it objectively as possible. Killzone 2 was suppose to beat Halo 3 in sales, and critical acclaim (according to Cows). It did neither.

HistoricalSD

Um creators of Killzone came out and said that they didnt expect Killzone 2 to sale as many as it did...now who exactly said this would kill Halo?

well, how about basically every1 owning a playstation 3? am i right?

This is an example of the "New Low Level Posters" I just posted about.

One post he claims that KZ2 was a Halo Killer, and now he is claiming Cows said that despite the fact he was clearly not here during that time, and Again, I mentioned these Low Level New POsters as the people that make these claims.


There are now KILLER games. Nor was KZ2 hyped to be a Halo Killer, lulz.

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#106 Nike_Air
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What stage is this on that famous Killzone 2 damage control chart ?

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#107 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="majadamus"][QUOTE="Ultramarine777"] lol that's not true and you know it, hyping Halo killer is insta failure, you can't kill a videogame with another videogame, maybe if it were on the same console and the exact same style or something. Everytime the PS3 gets a good looking exclusive FPS lemmings are going to claim cows said it's the halo killer and then will get more of these threads. I really see no point in this.

idontbeliveit

I saw a Cow with a signature that stood for "Halo Killer"...so I had to post a thread about it. :P

ok so you saw ONE cow with that sig and you immediatly think they represent EVERY cow in SW? great logic. the vast majority of cows didnt hype KZ2 as a halo killer. they hyped the 1st one as a halo killer though, and got owned, but not the second one, at least not the majority. i know how much you want to believe that they did so you could rub it in their faces but sorry, this is a desperate attempt at ownage.

Very, Very, Very Desperate...and sadly, not an original Idea as a few other hardcore anticow fanboys have tried to make this exact thread. This thread, like those few others, blew up in all those other fanboy's face, further wrecking any legitimacy they might have had.

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#108 HistoricalSD
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[QUOTE="HistoricalSD"][QUOTE="brennan7777"] Um creators of Killzone came out and said that they didnt expect Killzone 2 to sale as many as it did...now who exactly said this would kill Halo?

SolidTy

well, how about basically every1 owning a playstation 3? am i right?

This is an example of the "New Low Level Posters" I just posted about.

One post he claims that KZ2 was a Halo Killer, and now he is claiming Cows said that despite the fact he was clearly not here during that time, and Again, I mentioned these Low Level New POsters as the people that make these claims.


There are now KILLER games. Nor was KZ2 hyped to be a Halo Killer, lulz.

right, i was not here during the time, but you had not to be as killzone 2 was all over the internet. lol got any proof killzone 2 hasnt hyped to "kill" halo 3, bud? if you don't, i say schhhhhhh...
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#109 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="HistoricalSD"] well, how about basically every1 owning a playstation 3? am i right?HistoricalSD

This is an example of the "New Low Level Posters" I just posted about.

One post he claims that KZ2 was a Halo Killer, and now he is claiming Cows said that despite the fact he was clearly not here during that time, and Again, I mentioned these Low Level New POsters as the people that make these claims.


There are now KILLER games. Nor was KZ2 hyped to be a Halo Killer, lulz.

right, i was not here during the time, but you had not to be as killzone 2 was all over the internet. lol got any proof killzone 2 hasnt hyped to "kill" halo 3, bud? if you don't, i say schhhhhhh...

You could at least offer evidence that it was. Instead of just asking somebody else to prove their side.

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#110 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="HistoricalSD"] well, how about basically every1 owning a playstation 3? am i right?HistoricalSD

This is an example of the "New Low Level Posters" I just posted about.

One post he claims that KZ2 was a Halo Killer, and now he is claiming Cows said that despite the fact he was clearly not here during that time, and Again, I mentioned these Low Level New POsters as the people that make these claims.


There are now KILLER games. Nor was KZ2 hyped to be a Halo Killer, lulz.

right, i was not here during the time, but you had not to be as killzone 2 was all over the internet. lol got any proof killzone 2 hasnt hyped to "kill" halo 3, bud? if you don't, i say schhhhhhh...

OMG, teh internetz!

You don't understand how the burden of proof works, and I'm not going to bother trying to argue with a new poster that may or may not be here in 2 weeks.

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#111 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="HistoricalSD"] well, how about basically every1 owning a playstation 3? am i right?HistoricalSD

This is an example of the "New Low Level Posters" I just posted about.

One post he claims that KZ2 was a Halo Killer, and now he is claiming Cows said that despite the fact he was clearly not here during that time, and Again, I mentioned these Low Level New POsters as the people that make these claims.


There are now KILLER games. Nor was KZ2 hyped to be a Halo Killer, lulz.

right, i was not here during the time, but you had not to be as killzone 2 was all over the internet. lol got any proof killzone 2 hasnt hyped to "kill" halo 3, bud? if you don't, i say schhhhhhh...

i'm sorry but you are an embarassment to all xbox/halo fans out there.

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#112 HistoricalSD
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[QUOTE="HistoricalSD"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

This is an example of the "New Low Level Posters" I just posted about.

One post he claims that KZ2 was a Halo Killer, and now he is claiming Cows said that despite the fact he was clearly not here during that time, and Again, I mentioned these Low Level New POsters as the people that make these claims.


There are now KILLER games. Nor was KZ2 hyped to be a Halo Killer, lulz.

SolidTy

right, i was not here during the time, but you had not to be as killzone 2 was all over the internet. lol got any proof killzone 2 hasnt hyped to "kill" halo 3, bud? if you don't, i say schhhhhhh...

OMG, teh internetz!

You don't understand how the burden of proof works, and I'm not going to bother trying to argue with a new poster that may or may not be here in 2 weeks.

JUST as I expected, no proof. its a shame there are so many posters speaking **** without any evidence backing up what they have 2 say. well, teh internetz, i guess, as u said...

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#113 SolidTy
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Yep, teh Internetz.

I called this a few posts ago. This thread is about Cows in SW, not the Internetz anyways.

I can't believe I'm actually defending M$, but something needs to be said. Why have the Cows dubbed Killzone 2 as the Halo killer?

majadamus

"The Cows" didn't say that.

KILLZONE 1 for PS2 was dubbed "The Halo Killer", but "The Cows" learned their lesson. KZ2 was considered a great game, and sitll is. You're confusing Cows with FAKEBOY's (Low Level, Alt Accounts, not legitmate Recognized posters).

There are no "KILLER" games that kill Zelda, Halo, Mario, Street Fighter, etc.

If you find these "COWS", please post a link so we can all make fun of them, because they aren't really cows, they are new users with alt accounts.

Where is a link to this Sig?

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#114 HistoricalSD
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SolidTy, just becuase you have many posts DOES not mean you are a god on this forum. even if you love killzone 2 as musch as u love your mom, you cant deny the fact that killzone didnt cvome NEAR to destroy halo in the FPS devlopment. it just makes you embarrassing attempting to hide it. sometimes, there are things that you need to face, no matter the difficulty
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#115 -Traveller-
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SolidTy, just becuase you have many posts DOES not mean you are a god on this forum. even if you love killzone 2 as musch as u love your mom, you cant deny the fact that killzone didnt cvome NEAR to destroy halo in the FPS devlopment. it just makes you embarrassing attempting to hide it. sometimes, there are things that you need to face, no matter the difficultyHistoricalSD

Please grow up a little. Not everyone has to agree with your points.

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#116 CreepyBacon
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ok im not trying to sound like a fanboy but do people really think that is halo3 and kz2 came out at the same time theywould have scored different? i really think not i bet they would have had the exact same score. sure it wasnt much of difference in time that they came out but enough to have expectation grow as to what a current gen game should be. cause a year is a VERY longtime when it comes to technologyriver_rat3117

H3 still would of scored higher. 4 player co-op, a competitive point based mode on the single player + skulls for a lot more single player replay than KZ2 which has nothing, Forge mode, ability to upload photos, ability to upload films, more maps at launch, far FAR FAR superior customization in multiplayer, more multiplayer game types.

List goes on..if KZ2 and H3 was to launch this year, you can assume Bungie would have graphics that are acceptable for this current gen of games, KZ2 will still look better but that's all it'll have. H3 has a massive amount of options for a single game even to this day. So no, they'd not score the same. GG didn't make a game that matched Halos package, it simply fell short and matched R2..which lets face it, everyone stopped talking about that a month after it launched.

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#117 HistoricalSD
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[QUOTE="HistoricalSD"]SolidTy, just becuase you have many posts DOES not mean you are a god on this forum. even if you love killzone 2 as musch as u love your mom, you cant deny the fact that killzone didnt cvome NEAR to destroy halo in the FPS devlopment. it just makes you embarrassing attempting to hide it. sometimes, there are things that you need to face, no matter the difficulty-Traveller-

Please grow up a little. Not everyone has to agree with your points.

care 2 elaborate? because what you said makes no sense. what has ben said is FACTS, not opinions. halo outscored killzone and outsold it. dats basically a fact, and not my opinion that u can disagree with, lol. sony games tend 2 have extreme hype but are quickly forgotten later. i wonder if killzone 2 will be talked-bout 1 and half year after release..
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#118 brennan7777
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SolidTy, just becuase you have many posts DOES not mean you are a god on this forum. even if you love killzone 2 as musch as u love your mom, you cant deny the fact that killzone didnt cvome NEAR to destroy halo in the FPS devlopment. it just makes you embarrassing attempting to hide it. sometimes, there are things that you need to face, no matter the difficultyHistoricalSD
Hmm to think a person can actually be as idiotic as you...Nobody is saying Killzone 2 came near to destroying Halo. He is saying that Killzone wasnt hyped to destroy it and you insist that it was. You are changing what both of you said...wow its people like you that make me glad i dont play Halo.

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#119 SolidTy
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SolidTy, just becuase you have many posts DOES not mean you are a god on this forum. even if you love killzone 2 as musch as u love your mom, you cant deny the fact that killzone didnt cvome NEAR to destroy halo in the FPS devlopment. it just makes you embarrassing attempting to hide it. sometimes, there are things that you need to face, no matter the difficultyHistoricalSD

I never said nor claimed KZ2 did "Destroy Halo" on any level. ;) :lol:

I think KZ2 is a pretty FPS, nothing more, I was one of the few that never hyped this game, EVER, because I didn't like the first one too much.

I own TWO copies of HALO 3, and ONLY ONE copy of KZ2, so I surely don't like KZ2 as much as Halo 3.

That doesn't change the fact that Cows are being accused of Hyping it as a Halo Killer, Cows hyped the Graphics and the fact it was going to Score Weill, two things KZ2 managed to do, despite the world waiting for this game to CRITICALLY Flop.

KZ2 was a big surprise for many, many gamers, since it was actually QUALITY.

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#120 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="HistoricalSD"]SolidTy, just becuase you have many posts DOES not mean you are a god on this forum. even if you love killzone 2 as musch as u love your mom, you cant deny the fact that killzone didnt cvome NEAR to destroy halo in the FPS devlopment. it just makes you embarrassing attempting to hide it. sometimes, there are things that you need to face, no matter the difficultyHistoricalSD

Please grow up a little. Not everyone has to agree with your points.

care 2 elaborate? because what you said makes no sense. what has ben said is FACTS, not opinions. halo outscored killzone and outsold it. dats basically a fact, and not my opinion that u can disagree with, lol. sony games tend 2 have extreme hype but are quickly forgotten later. i wonder if killzone 2 will be talked-bout 1 and half year after release..

"right, i was not here during the time, but you had not to be as killzone 2 was all over the internet. lol got any proof killzone 2 hasnt hyped to "kill" halo 3, bud? if you don't, i say schhhhhhh..."

Killzone 2 had hype, and no doubt some fanboys hyped it to kill Halo 3. Notice, some, not everybody.

You asked SolidTY to provide proof that not everybody hyped KZ2 to kill Halo 3, yet you made the claim that everybody did. Therefore burden of proof was placed on you.

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#121 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="HistoricalSD"]SolidTy, just becuase you have many posts DOES not mean you are a god on this forum. even if you love killzone 2 as musch as u love your mom, you cant deny the fact that killzone didnt cvome NEAR to destroy halo in the FPS devlopment. it just makes you embarrassing attempting to hide it. sometimes, there are things that you need to face, no matter the difficultyHistoricalSD

Please grow up a little. Not everyone has to agree with your points.

care 2 elaborate? because what you said makes no sense. what has ben said is FACTS, not opinions. halo outscored killzone and outsold it. dats basically a fact, and not my opinion that u can disagree with, lol. sony games tend 2 have extreme hype but are quickly forgotten later. i wonder if killzone 2 will be talked-bout 1 and half year after release..

its basically a fact? something cant "basically" be a fact.

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#122 BioShockOwnz
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Yeah, KZ2 turned out a great game, but not up to a Halo.

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#123 heretrix
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Killzone 2 is a great game, technically better than Halo 3 even. What it isn't is the phenomenon that Halo is.

And it doesn't have to be.

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#124 2mrw
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I can't believe I'm actually defending M$, but something needs to be said. Why have the Cows dubbed Killzone 2 as the Halo killer? The sales show that it sells like **** in comparison to Halo 3. The critics here at Gamespot have also scored Halo 3 higher than Killzone 2. Am I missing something here? Seems like Halo is alive and well, and Killzone 2 is just in the shadow of Halo 3's success.

majadamus
the problem is sales define suceess not the quality of the game........... some rubbish games sales like crazy but they lack quality....... so sales wise KZ2 isn't Halo killer........ quality wise i dun know coz i didn't play both.
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#125 Mr_Nordquist
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Hardcore PS3 fanboys dubbed it a Halo killer, and hardcore Xbox 360 fanboys dubbed it a Halo killer in order to claim ownage over cows by saying it didn't kill Halo.

Really though. Any gamer with sense didn't call it that.

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#126 ZoomZoom2490
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let me explain why you are confused. Lemmings hyped kz2 to be a failure like the first game and cows were only defending kz2 because they liked kz to be the Halo killer but when you think about it kz2 did deliver so at the end lemmings got owned and cows won despite the kz2 sales being lower than Halo3.

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#127 Night-Wolf93
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Both games are good ..so stop comparing each other

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#128 NYrockinlegend
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This is kinda sad. The PS3 gamers get a great game, and 360 owners think the game sucks due to poor sales. Judge Jak or Ratchet on sales, and you will be VERY disappointed. So, great games need great sales to be called "great"? But you SHOULD be comparing Halo Wars to Killzone 2. And I think THAT'S what the PS3 fanboys intended. And you know what? They overall succeeded. Better critical success AND commercial success worldwide; this proves that Halo popularity has gone WAY down. After all, doesn't it make sense to compare the MOST RECENT titles? FYI, Halo 3 is SO 2 years ago.:P I mean, you don't have be THAT insincere towards a PS3 game just because it's NOT on the 360, and others think it's great. Sheesh, Halo boys are expecting EVERY game to sell just as well as Halo, and if not, it's no good. By that logic, you are sure to be disappointed by the majority of games. Quite sad, really. There are a ton of games that don't sell good that are actually very fun.
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#129 W1ckedGo0se
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I don't know why Halo is the new Standard for Best FPS... Its very Fun (I played over 8,000 games in Halo 2 and 3,000 in Halo 2), but its not like some god game... The Gameplay is simple and Fun... the Graphics are not Amazing, but they don't hurt to look at... The Multiplayer Map Design was good in Halo 2 (Little Lacking in Halo 3... IMO)... But, it had its problem... Halo 2 was filled with Modders and Standbyers because it was just so easy... Once you reached level 32 half your games would have cheaters in them... I put my time in on the High Levels (I was a 36), but I had to Delevel down ever time I got that high just to get some legit games... I feel the best Halo is Halo 2 because it was the first to really hold the strong online play and had better level Design the Halo 3, but It has many problems...