Killzone 2 using only 60% of PS3 SPUs

Speaking in IGN's latest Play Beyond podcast, Jeff Haynes revealed that even during the heaviest loads, Killzone 2 utilizes roughly only 60 per cent of the SPU's.

"It's incredible to see huge levels and see the deferred rendering and note that on all the SPU's, even on the heaviest load were coming up to about 60%," Haynes said. "They weren't coming close to maxing out. .They had about 40% of space before they started tripping or saw slow down on some of the processes."

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=34314

P.S what about the remaining 40%? the OS?

Speaking in IGN's latest Play Beyond podcast, Jeff Haynes revealed that even during the heaviest loads, Killzone 2 utilizes roughly only 60 per cent of the SPU's.

"It's incredible to see huge levels and see the deferred rendering and note that on all the SPU's, even on the heaviest load were coming up to about 60%," Haynes said. "They weren't coming close to maxing out. .They had about 40% of space before they started tripping or saw slow down on some of the processes."

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=34314

P.S what about the remaining 40%? the OS?

Mystery_Writer

I really hate quotes like this, if they know they are only using 60% of the consoles power then why can't they use the remaining 40% if they know it is there?spinecaton

I really hate quotes like this, if they know they are only using 60% of the consoles power then why can't they use the remaining 40% if they know it is there?spinecaton

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]I really hate quotes like this, if they know they are only using 60% of the consoles power then why can't they use the remaining 40% if they know it is there?Ren_eko

Speaking in IGN's latest Play Beyond podcast, Jeff Haynes revealed that even during the heaviest loads, Killzone 2 utilizes roughly only 60 per cent of the SPU's.

"It's incredible to see huge levels and see the deferred rendering and note that on all the SPU's, even on the heaviest load were coming up to about 60%," Haynes said. "They weren't coming close to maxing out. .They had about 40% of space before they started tripping or saw slow down on some of the processes."

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=34314

P.S what about the remaining 40%? the OS?

Mystery_Writer

Well this explains the low-poly characters and blurry textures.:oops:

Speaking in IGN's latest Play Beyond podcast, Jeff Haynes revealed that even during the heaviest loads, Killzone 2 utilizes roughly only 60 per cent of the SPU's.

"It's incredible to see huge levels and see the deferred rendering and note that on all the SPU's, even on the heaviest load were coming up to about 60%," Haynes said. "They weren't coming close to maxing out. .They had about 40% of space before they started tripping or saw slow down on some of the processes."

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=34314

P.S what about the remaining 40%? the OS?

Mystery_Writer

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

Speaking in IGN's latest Play Beyond podcast, Jeff Haynes revealed that even during the heaviest loads, Killzone 2 utilizes roughly only 60 per cent of the SPU's.

"It's incredible to see huge levels and see the deferred rendering and note that on all the SPU's, even on the heaviest load were coming up to about 60%," Haynes said. "They weren't coming close to maxing out. .They had about 40% of space before they started tripping or saw slow down on some of the processes."

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=34314

P.S what about the remaining 40%? the OS?

BudsMcGreen

Well this explains the low-poly characters and blurry textures.:oops:

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]I really hate quotes like this, if they know they are only using 60% of the consoles power then why can't they use the remaining 40% if they know it is there?Ren_eko

How do they know they are at 60% though?

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

Speaking in IGN's latest Play Beyond podcast, Jeff Haynes revealed that even during the heaviest loads, Killzone 2 utilizes roughly only 60 per cent of the SPU's.

"It's incredible to see huge levels and see the deferred rendering and note that on all the SPU's, even on the heaviest load were coming up to about 60%," Haynes said. "They weren't coming close to maxing out. .They had about 40% of space before they started tripping or saw slow down on some of the processes."

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=34314

P.S what about the remaining 40%? the OS?

BudsMcGreen

Well this explains the low-poly characters and blurry textures.:oops:

[QUOTE="Ren_eko"][QUOTE="spinecaton"]I really hate quotes like this, if they know they are only using 60% of the consoles power then why can't they use the remaining 40% if they know it is there?spinecaton

How do they know they are at 60% though?

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

Speaking in IGN's latest Play Beyond podcast, Jeff Haynes revealed that even during the heaviest loads, Killzone 2 utilizes roughly only 60 per cent of the SPU's.

"It's incredible to see huge levels and see the deferred rendering and note that on all the SPU's, even on the heaviest load were coming up to about 60%," Haynes said. "They weren't coming close to maxing out. .They had about 40% of space before they started tripping or saw slow down on some of the processes."

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=34314

P.S what about the remaining 40%? the OS?

BudsMcGreen

Well this explains the low-poly characters and blurry textures.:oops:

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="Ren_eko"] Time and money. As knowledge about the architecture increases they will be able to start new projects utilizing 60% of the SPU and during the development time they can increase it even more .Ren_eko

How do they know they are at 60% though?

my guess is that the Vram is holding them back, so its not just a case of lets make it 40% better.yoyo462001

I hate quotes like that as they're always BS.

Games that are released later in a console's life-span generally look better because developers have learned how to code more efficiently for any given system's strengths, not because they've discovered some magic power locked away.

If he can truly put a figure like 60% down, he's full of **bleep** as there's no reason why they couldn't touch the other 40% - unless he's talking the two cores set aside for system and test use.

It's just a garbage PR statement that sounds good when you spit it out - it just doesn't mean anything.

i wonder if they're taking in to account the 1.5 cores the OS uses - or the 1 redundent / useless core in PS3 Cell processors. not too many people know the PS3 only has 7, not the standard 8 cores. it's assumed this was a deal with the manufacturer to get a better price, buying up faulty lower yield Cell processors.

either way, interesting. i'd like to see how they came to that figure though - and what was stopping them from doing more.

[QUOTE="Ren_eko"][QUOTE="spinecaton"]

How do they know they are at 60% though?

Rikusaki

[QUOTE="Ren_eko"][QUOTE="spinecaton"]

How do they know they are at 60% though?

Rikusaki

most of the time was spent building the engine,wich most new 1st party exclusives 4 sony will use.

I really hate quotes like this, if they know they are only using 60% of the consoles power then why can't they use the remaining 40% if they know it is there?spinecaton

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]I really hate quotes like this, if they know they are only using 60% of the consoles power then why can't they use the remaining 40% if they know it is there?angry_fork

Not this again, it only maintains the PS3 super computer mentality; were they think their system is better than it really is and developers are just too incompetent to utilize the awesome power of Cell...

As far as I'm concerned PS3 will never get 100% of the SPUs in use, it probably hasn't got the ram to do that many calculations. Everything requires memory on some level, PS3 has only as much ram as 360. When you push it to 360 level, you are left having to make compromises to ensure Cell has something to work with.

Sony probably asked them to only use 60% of the CELL because they want the PS3 to continuously improve graphically over time. They want the PS3 to be a 10-year system. :DRikusaki

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]Sony probably asked them to only use 60% of the CELL because they want the PS3 to continuously improve graphically over time. They want the PS3 to be a 10-year system. :D3picuri3

Sony probably asked them to only use 60% of the CELL because they want the PS3 to continuously improve graphically over time. They want the PS3 to be a 10-year system. :DRikusaki

At that rate the PS3 will be almost maxed out at the end of next year. If the system is using 60% power after 2 years, then you could argue that the PS3 should achieve 100% performance in a little over a year from now.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]Sony probably asked them to only use 60% of the CELL because they want the PS3 to continuously improve graphically over time. They want the PS3 to be a 10-year system. :D3picuri3

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]Sony probably asked them to only use 60% of the CELL because they want the PS3 to continuously improve graphically over time. They want the PS3 to be a 10-year system. :Dclaywalker21

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]Sony probably asked them to only use 60% of the CELL because they want the PS3 to continuously improve graphically over time. They want the PS3 to be a 10-year system. :DRen_eko

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]I really hate quotes like this, if they know they are only using 60% of the consoles power then why can't they use the remaining 40% if they know it is there?angry_fork

So if one of the largest development teams with an insanely large budget can't use more then 60% of the power of the SPU in the PS3 after a couple years of the life cycle, then I don't think any other team will be coming too close to using more then that.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]Sony probably asked them to only use 60% of the CELL because they want the PS3 to continuously improve graphically over time. They want the PS3 to be a 10-year system. :DRen_eko

[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="spinecaton"]I really hate quotes like this, if they know they are only using 60% of the consoles power then why can't they use the remaining 40% if they know it is there?3picuri3

That's why GTA3 looks as good as God of War 2 :roll:

I hate quotes like that as they're always BS.

Games that are released later in a console's life-span generally look better because developers have learned how to code more efficiently for any given system's strengths, not because they've discovered some magic power locked away.

If he can truly put a figure like 60% down, he's full of **bleep** as there's no reason why they couldn't touch the other 40% - unless he's talking the two cores set aside for system and test use.

It's just a garbage PR statement that sounds good when you spit it out - it just doesn't mean anything.

DJ_Lae

You know it's funny how this is the best post in this thread and it's ignored.

Funny because anyone with even a basic handle on game development know this "60% of PS3 SPUs" statement is complete BS. Developer never intentionally not use all the resources available.

It's also the fact that you get to a point where you can't effectively "split" your code among the SPE's. After a certain point, even if you do split off certain tasks it no longer gives a performance benefit, and that doesn't even take into account the amount of handholding it takes on the part of the coder to split up the code it just takes too much time, with too little benefit to really fill up the execution units on the cell. It just isn't practical.Steppy_76

Now let's watch cows ignore this post too! :lol: