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#51 DarthBilf
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"][QUOTE="WhySoSerious300"]

Higgs are even better than Brutes. but the ATACs > All.

WhySoSerious300

how about the locust scum? they are also fun to kill :P

lol very fun to kill but extremely stupid especially the Theron Guards :lol:

They make up for their stupidity with their ability to no look you in the skull with a torque bow from a hundred feet away if you pop up for a few seconds.

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#52 pi3m4ster
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that's honestly one of the most superifical comparisons i have ever seen. They don't even mention halo 3 theater, AND THEY EVEN USED A HALO 3 BETA SCREENSHOT FOR THE GRAPHICS COMPARISON. I could give countless other examples, but really.... nuff said. I mean come on, this is a joke. It's just tellling people what they want to hear because you've spent years hyping killzone 2 whereas halo 3 has been out for 1 1/2 years already.
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[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]That's interesting as Gamespot thought Halo 3 was better than KZ2 9.5 > 9.0Great_Ragnarok
bwhahahah thats true.

whats the costume's name :O looks awesome (ninja gaiden 2 sig duh :P)
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#54 WhySoSerious300
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"][QUOTE="treedoor"]

No, it's a shame that they think helghast are better than grunts :P Grunts are funny

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XD they're indeed funny. but don't you feel bad when killing them ?

Killing them is even funnier, especially with the confetti skull on.

Naw.. throwing a plasma grenade at them is the best!

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#55 killerfist
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I disagree with alot in that article. But w/e, they're both great in their own way.
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#56 5th_element
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Halo's SP is OK and is certainly better then killzone's!! also the most they can say is they are diff games......but saying MP is better is utter noncense.....halo 3 MP is out of this world!!...something else !!!...Killzone MP is great but ......its only great!
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#57 DarthBilf
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The thing that makes Halo great is that in 2011 when Halo 4 or some other huge FPS comes out, NOBODY will be comparing it to Killzone 2. Killzone will be mostly forgotten by that point. Halo has a lasting power that no other great FPS has.
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#58 Nike_Air
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Halo 3 got Killzowned by SonyPro. Pretty hilarious.

I can see people already up in arms about the graphics comparison in the bonus round because a little time has passed since Halo 3 released ....... but when Halo 3 released (while looking nice) , probably wasn't one of the best looking console games at the time. Killzone 2 is a freaking beast of a game , arguably the top console game right now with not much competition.

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#59 Pariah_001
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Um I don't care about anything they say. They are pro Sony. They made way to many stupid articles that just didin't make sense. It is a poor magazine. I have been saying this for a long time.too_much_eslim
Then why bother distinguishing them as "pro-Sony?" You didn't just make a statement in regards to their credibility, you made a statement in regards to what you think is bias on their part.
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#60 VoodooHak
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Maybe I just missed it, but they didn't seem to mention Theatre or co-op or the near-infinite customizability of multiplayer. Hmmm.

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You missed it; but it was ever so vaguely mentioned that it's evident just to how slipshod of a comparison it is. I expected an in-depth comparison, instead, we got a few sentences which contained no specifics.

The impression I got from the article was that he played KZ2, but only read about Halo 3. Of course, I don't know this for sure, but the author doesn't go into enough detail for there to be any cogent discussion.

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#61 jjenkins78x
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[QUOTE="5th_element"]Halo's SP is OK and is certainly better then killzone's!! also the most they can say is they are diff games......but saying MP is better is utter noncense.....halo 3 MP is out of this world!!...something else !!!...Killzone MP is great but ......its only great!

Do you have a PS3?
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#62 WhySoSerious300
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[QUOTE="5th_element"]Halo's SP is OK and is certainly better then killzone's!! also the most they can say is they are diff games......but saying MP is better is utter noncense.....halo 3 MP is out of this world!!...something else !!!...Killzone MP is great but ......its only great!jjenkins78x
Do you have a PS3?

Was going to say the same thing :lol:

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#63 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

Maybe I just missed it, but they didn't seem to mention Theatre or co-op or the near-infinite customizability of multiplayer. Hmmm.

VoodooHak

You missed it; but it was ever so vaguely mentioned that it's evident just to how slipshod of a comparison it is. I expected an in-depth comparison, instead, we got a few sentences which contained no specifics.

The impression I got from the article was that he played KZ2, but only read about Halo 3. Of course, I don't know this for sure, but the author doesn't go into enough detail for there to be any cogent discussion.

He didn't go anywhere in depth on KZ2 either tho. I own, Halo 3, waiting for my copy of KZ2 to arrive, but I fully expect KZ2 to be the better game TODAY, Halo is like 2 years old, not that it's aged badly, but KZ2 seems to be more modernized. Now if the question were which FPS was better for it's time, maybe the outcome would have been diferent, idk.
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#64 Couth_
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First impressions are that KZ2 is better. It's too soon to compare but if anything it's up there with Halo and CoD
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#65 moose_knuckler
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Hey dude you should compare the ratings gamespot gave them........o that's right, gamespot rated Halo3 9.5 and K2 a 9.0 so your not gonna bother with this website anyway ;).
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#66 -DrRobotnik-
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LOL GAMEPRO. That is all.
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#67 Eddie-Vedder
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Hey dude you should compare the ratings gamespot gave them........o that's right, gamespot rated Halo3 9.5 and K2 a 9.0 so your not gonna bother with this website anyway ;).moose_knuckler
Standards change dude, theres a reason why we aren't playing N64 FPS's, games keep modernizing, especially FPS's, the market is so saturated with this genre, FPS's are constantly doing more. You can't just look at scores when deciding what to play NOW. Maybe for deciding which was best for it's time. Which FPS do you think Gamespot would say is better, KZ2 or PD0? They both got a 9. And plus Cod4 beat out Halo for best FPS and it scores .5 less.
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Standards change dude, theres a reason why we aren't playing N64 FPS's, games keep modernizing, especially FPS's, the market is so saturated with this genre, FPS's are constantly doing more. You can't just look at scores when deciding what to play NOW. Maybe for deciding which was best for it's time. Which FPS do you think Gamespot would say is better, KZ2 or PD0? They both got a 9. And plus Cod4 beat out Halo for best FPS and it scores .5 less.Eddie-Vedder
Problem with that is standards don't change dramatically over the the period over 15 months -- I would expect the same review if Halo 3 were to launch today. Also, remember that this is the same site which under the impression that MGS4 is technically superior to Crysis. I would take whatever this site says with a grain of salt anyways.
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#69 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] Standards change dude, theres a reason why we aren't playing N64 FPS's, games keep modernizing, especially FPS's, the market is so saturated with this genre, FPS's are constantly doing more. You can't just look at scores when deciding what to play NOW. Maybe for deciding which was best for it's time. Which FPS do you think Gamespot would say is better, KZ2 or PD0? They both got a 9. And plus Cod4 beat out Halo for best FPS and it scores .5 less.

Problem with that is standards don't change dramatically over the the period over 15 months -- I would expect the same review if Halo 3 were to launch today.

It's not all about scores and 'standards'. A CoD4 game that came out a couple month after halo, got a lower score but was named best FPS
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Hey dude you should compare the ratings gamespot gave them........o that's right, gamespot rated Halo3 9.5 and K2 a 9.0 so your not gonna bother with this website anyway ;).Eddie-Vedder
Standards change dude, theres a reason why we aren't playing N64 FPS's, games keep modernizing, especially FPS's, the market is so saturated with this genre, FPS's are constantly doing more. You can't just look at scores when deciding what to play NOW. Maybe for deciding which was best for it's time. Which FPS do you think Gamespot would say is better, KZ2 or PD0? They both got a 9. And plus Cod4 beat out Halo for best FPS and it scores .5 less.

Then why did this guy bother posting this with the arguement you just made?
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that is great. i was expecting killzone 2 to win. if halo 3 won then i would have been a bit mad about that.
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Hey dude you should compare the ratings gamespot gave them........o that's right, gamespot rated Halo3 9.5 and K2 a 9.0 so your not gonna bother with this website anyway ;).Eddie-Vedder
Standards change dude, theres a reason why we aren't playing N64 FPS's, games keep modernizing, especially FPS's, the market is so saturated with this genre, FPS's are constantly doing more. You can't just look at scores when deciding what to play NOW. Maybe for deciding which was best for it's time. Which FPS do you think Gamespot would say is better, KZ2 or PD0? They both got a 9. And plus Cod4 beat out Halo for best FPS and it scores .5 less.

standards may change, but Halo 3 is still clocking nearly 1 million unique players every day. Id love to see Killzone 2 maintain that kind of audience. Oh, and you mentioned FPSs are constantly doing more? Well Killzone 2 doesnt really do anything more.
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That's interesting as Gamespot thought Halo 3 was better than KZ2 9.5 > 9.0Erik_Lensherr

This might scare you, but Jeff Gertsmann gave Halo 3 a 9.5 out of 10.

Can you guess what HE gave Killzone 2 over at Giantbomb? A perfect 5 out of 5.

If we're going by what the same person thought of both games, then Killzone 2 wins.

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I hate when people compare games when one is old while the other is new.
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#75 lbjkurono23
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Hey dude you should compare the ratings gamespot gave them........o that's right, gamespot rated Halo3 9.5 and K2 a 9.0 so your not gonna bother with this website anyway ;).moose_knuckler
so I should go ahead and proclaim tony hawk 3 better than TH3 10/10>>> halo3 9.5>>> KZ29.0 scores don't mean crap. besides what makes hes opinion more qualified than ours? nothing. every gaming site should take the score system out and only put the pro and cons. that way this stupid war ends. but that won't happen because gamers eat up the flame wars. and we all know what that means for them...
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[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]That's interesting as Gamespot thought Halo 3 was better than KZ2 9.5 > 9.0Nerd_Man

This might scare you, but Jeff Gertsmann gave Halo 3 a 9.5 out of 10.

Can you guess what HE gave Killzone 2 over at Giantbomb? A perfect 5 out of 5.

If we're going by what the same person thought of both games, then Killzone 2 wins.

Dude, you'll give yourself a hernia reaching that much.
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#77 BillGates_Money
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Hey dude you should compare the ratings gamespot gave them........o that's right, gamespot rated Halo3 9.5 and K2 a 9.0 so your not gonna bother with this website anyway ;).moose_knuckler
Stop..times change
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#78 WhySoSerious300
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[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]That's interesting as Gamespot thought Halo 3 was better than KZ2 9.5 > 9.0Nerd_Man

This might scare you, but Jeff Gertsmann gave Halo 3 a 9.5 out of 10.

Can you guess what HE gave Killzone 2 over at Giantbomb? A perfect 5 out of 5.

If we're going by what the same person thought of both games, then Killzone 2 wins.

Agreed. I guess the fanboys are still P'oed on what KZ2 on the reviews. HATERS BE DAMNED!

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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] Standards change dude, theres a reason why we aren't playing N64 FPS's, games keep modernizing, especially FPS's, the market is so saturated with this genre, FPS's are constantly doing more. You can't just look at scores when deciding what to play NOW. Maybe for deciding which was best for it's time. Which FPS do you think Gamespot would say is better, KZ2 or PD0? They both got a 9. And plus Cod4 beat out Halo for best FPS and it scores .5 less.Stevo_the_gamer
Problem with that is standards don't change dramatically over the the period over 15 months -- I would expect the same review if Halo 3 were to launch today. Also, remember that this is the same site which under the impression that MGS4 is technically superior to Crysis. I would take whatever this site says with a grain of salt anyways.

That depends on the flow of games, look at PD0 and the FPS's that came out after, Halo's Cod's etc. Some genre's take longer to evolve, FPS's tho are forced to push the envelope otherwise they just drown in the sea of other FPS's. And almost every gaming site gave "best graphics" to a console game, MGS4 won here, IGN, Giantbomb, Spike and a bunch of other places, Gametrailer's gave it to gears, I'm pretty sure they looked at what was achieved in graphics rather then how powersull your graphics card could strech textures and how much ram you had to process it all. In other words, they took platform into consideration.
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] You missed it; but it was ever so vaguely mentioned that it's evident just to how slipshod of a comparison it is. I expected an in-depth comparison, instead, we got a few sentences which contained no specifics.Eddie-Vedder

The impression I got from the article was that he played KZ2, but only read about Halo 3. Of course, I don't know this for sure, but the author doesn't go into enough detail for there to be any cogent discussion.

He didn't go anywhere in depth on KZ2 either tho. I own, Halo 3, waiting for my copy of KZ2 to arrive, but I fully expect KZ2 to be the better game TODAY, Halo is like 2 years old, not that it's aged badly, but KZ2 seems to be more modernized. Now if the question were which FPS was better for it's time, maybe the outcome would have been diferent, idk.

Not that I really care about GamePro's opinion, I just found that the author was missing a couple key points that should have been considered in his judgment. Sparse paragraphs don't qualify as a decent comparison.

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If anything, this comparison has shown me that these two FPS are more or less equal and game journalism is laughable.

Seriously, he gave extras and replayability to the game with no extra...

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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Hey dude you should compare the ratings gamespot gave them........o that's right, gamespot rated Halo3 9.5 and K2 a 9.0 so your not gonna bother with this website anyway ;).-DrRobotnik-
Standards change dude, theres a reason why we aren't playing N64 FPS's, games keep modernizing, especially FPS's, the market is so saturated with this genre, FPS's are constantly doing more. You can't just look at scores when deciding what to play NOW. Maybe for deciding which was best for it's time. Which FPS do you think Gamespot would say is better, KZ2 or PD0? They both got a 9. And plus Cod4 beat out Halo for best FPS and it scores .5 less.

standards may change, but Halo 3 is still clocking nearly 1 million unique players every day. Id love to see Killzone 2 maintain that kind of audience. Oh, and you mentioned FPSs are constantly doing more? Well Killzone 2 doesnt really do anything more.

Halo's a great game with a huge community, it's also a heavily marketed franchise and I would say is a lot more casual friendly because of the art style. One thing KZ2 lacks and imo is a HUGE disadvantage is local splitscreen online play, coop I can do without, but local online spiltscreen for parties and stuff is just sooo Godly and makes things so much more fun and addictive. I still haven't played KZ2 but if it isn't at least on par with Halo 3 I'll be very dissapointed.
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Lets stop trying to bash halo 3 further with comparisons with a game that came out this year, to a game that came out two years ago. Start comparing games that came out very recently, like Cod World at war and such
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That's interesting as Gamespot thought Halo 3 was better than KZ2 9.5 > 9.0Erik_Lensherr
Standards rise with time.
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Seriously, he gave extras and replayability to the game with no extra...

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Extras was meshed with replayability and overall. KZ2 has more unlockables that warrant replayability... And overall is overall
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#86 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

The impression I got from the article was that he played KZ2, but only read about Halo 3. Of course, I don't know this for sure, but the author doesn't go into enough detail for there to be any cogent discussion.

VoodooHak

He didn't go anywhere in depth on KZ2 either tho. I own, Halo 3, waiting for my copy of KZ2 to arrive, but I fully expect KZ2 to be the better game TODAY, Halo is like 2 years old, not that it's aged badly, but KZ2 seems to be more modernized. Now if the question were which FPS was better for it's time, maybe the outcome would have been diferent, idk.

Not that I really care about GamePro's opinion, I just found that the author was missing a couple key points that should have been considered in his judgment. Sparse paragraphs don't qualify as a decent comparison.

I totally agree, could have been a MUCH better comparison.
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That depends on the flow of games, look at PD0 and the FPS's that came out after, Halo's Cod's etc. Some genre's take longer to evolve, FPS's tho are forced to push the envelope otherwise they just drown in the sea of other FPS's. And almost every gaming site gave "best graphics" to a console game, MGS4 won here, IGN, Giantbomb, Spike and a bunch of other places, Gametrailer's gave it to gears, I'm pretty sure they looked at what was achieved in graphics rather then how powersull your graphics card could strech textures and how much ram you had to process it all. In other words, they took platform into consideration.Eddie-Vedder
Indeed, it does - however, with that said... like I said before, the standards don't "dramatically" change over such a short period of time. They may evolve, but the difference wouldn't be all that noticeable. Yes, those sites did give console games "Best Graphics" because such a term encompasses many aspects of how games look, be it from the cinematic style, artistic approach or just sheer technical superiortity. It isn't just based on the "technical" graphical aspects of games. Gamespot, I believe, is the only site which had a "Best TECHNICAL Graphics Award"; which is based on objectivity, rather than subjectivity when it comes to just "best graphics" in general. When you look objectively at MGS4 and Crysis Warhead, you'd have to be a complete utter fool, or utterly blind, to say MGS4 is technically superior to Crysis.
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Gamespot, I believe, is the only site which had a "Best TECHNICAL Graphics Award"; which is based on objectivity, rather than subjectivity when it comes to just "best graphics" in general. When you look objectively at MGS4 and Crysis Warhead, you'd have to be a complete utter fool, or utterly blind, to say MGS4 is technically superior to Crysis.Stevo_the_gamer
About that, don't you think they gave it to MGS4 because it more of a technical achievement because the hardware is limited? Idk...that would make sense I guess.
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[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Seriously, he gave extras and replayability to the game with no extra...

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Extras was meshed with replayability and overall. KZ2 has more unlockables that warrant replayability... And overall is overall

The comparison itself is breaking the game into components to get an overall picture - the inclusion of an "Overall" category seems unneeded. The winner of the "overall cateogry" should logically be the winner of the comparison itself. And as for replayability, the same could be said of Halo with metagame scoring, 4 person co-op, and Skull esster eggs, among other things.

I not knocking KZ2, I plan on buying it soon enough. But the comparison seems weak at best, from analytical standpoint.

I'm also slightly angry that he didn't give any reasons why KZ2 multiplayer is superior to Halo 3 multiplayer, merely stating that he *thinks* gamers will be drawn into the CoD4 like gameplay. Ignoring other factors of mutliplayer entirely, he doesn't even compare KZ2 clan support and web-portion to Bungie.net and Halo 3 theatre mode, party system or the customization among game types of either game. The advantages of dedicated servers vs H3's P2P (Although Bungie's netcode is beastly).This is a laughable comparison.

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#90 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="killerfist"] About that, don't you think they gave it to MGS4 because it more of a technical achievement because the hardware is limited? Idk...that would make sense I guess.

So you're telling me if a DSi game were to be released and push the handheld to it's limits, it would be technically superior to Crysis Warhead?
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[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]That's interesting as Gamespot thought Halo 3 was better than KZ2 9.5 > 9.0-DrRobotnik-

This might scare you, but Jeff Gertsmann gave Halo 3 a 9.5 out of 10.

Can you guess what HE gave Killzone 2 over at Giantbomb? A perfect 5 out of 5.

If we're going by what the same person thought of both games, then Killzone 2 wins.

Dude, you'll give yourself a hernia reaching that much.

Well people act like Gamespot is full of staff who have the same exact opinions. Kevin VanOrd and Jeff Gertsmann are two very different people. Even then, Kevin VanOrd was all over Killzone 2 saying it set higher standards for the FPS genre, and that this is an absolute MUST buy game.
I think if we're going to compare the ratings, we minus well compare what the same guy who rated Halo 3 here thought of Killzone 2. Because ratings from person to person do indeed vary, and that's why they came out the way they did here at GS.

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#92 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Well people act like Gamespot is full of staff who have the same exact opinions. Kevin VanOrd and Jeff Gertsmann are two very different people. Even then, Kevin VanOrd was all over Killzone 2 saying it set higher standards for the FPS genre, and that this is an absolute MUST buy game.
I think if we're going to compare the ratings, we minus well compare what the same guy who rated Halo 3 here thought of Killzone 2. Because ratings from person to person do indeed vary.

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But wouldn't you agree that you can't compare two vastly different rating scales?
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]That depends on the flow of games, look at PD0 and the FPS's that came out after, Halo's Cod's etc. Some genre's take longer to evolve, FPS's tho are forced to push the envelope otherwise they just drown in the sea of other FPS's. And almost every gaming site gave "best graphics" to a console game, MGS4 won here, IGN, Giantbomb, Spike and a bunch of other places, Gametrailer's gave it to gears, I'm pretty sure they looked at what was achieved in graphics rather then how powersull your graphics card could strech textures and how much ram you had to process it all. In other words, they took platform into consideration.Stevo_the_gamer
Indeed, it does - however, with that said... like I said before, the standards don't "dramatically" change over such a short period of time. They may evolve, but the difference wouldn't be all that noticeable. Yes, those sites did give console games "Best Graphics" because such a term encompasses many aspects of how games look, be it from the cinematic style, artistic approach or just sheer technical superiortity. It isn't just based on the "technical" graphical aspects of games. Gamespot, I believe, is the only site which had a "Best TECHNICAL Graphics Award"; which is based on objectivity, rather than subjectivity when it comes to just "best graphics" in general. When you look objectively at MGS4 and Crysis Warhead, you'd have to be a complete utter fool, or utterly blind, to say MGS4 is technically superior to Crysis.

Well I don't think anyone meant to say KZ2 is "dramatically" better then Halo 3 :P And about the graphics thing, IF they did take platform into account the award makes sense, if not it's totally bogus because of course Warhead has a lot more power under the engine. It could very well be better technically for the platform it's on, at least that's the only way to make sense of it lol.
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[QUOTE="killerfist"] About that, don't you think they gave it to MGS4 because it more of a technical achievement because the hardware is limited? Idk...that would make sense I guess.Stevo_the_gamer
So you're telling me if a DSi game were to be released and push the handheld to it's limits, it would be technically superior to Crysis Warhead?

Not to the same extend, but still a technical achievement. I'm not out to start an argument here, just trying to understand why GS did it lol.
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[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]Well people act like Gamespot is full of staff who have the same exact opinions. Kevin VanOrd and Jeff Gertsmann are two very different people. Even then, Kevin VanOrd was all over Killzone 2 saying it set higher standards for the FPS genre, and that this is an absolute MUST buy game.
I think if we're going to compare the ratings, we minus well compare what the same guy who rated Halo 3 here thought of Killzone 2. Because ratings from person to person do indeed vary.

Stevo_the_gamer

But wouldn't you agree that you can't compare two vastly different rating scales?

Does it matter? He gave Killzone a PERFECT score. If you were to stretch that out into a 1-10 scale, it would stretch out to 10 then since a 10 here is considered a perfect score.

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I have to say im shocked.
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[QUOTE="killerfist"] Not to the same extend, but still a technical achievement. I'm not out to start an argument here, just trying to understand why GS did it lol.

Ah, I know -- just trying to put it in a way so you, or anyone for that matter, to understand that Gamespot was clearly biased in picking the Best Graphics. yes, it would be a technical achievement on that platform... but it wouldn't have the Best technical graphics of the year though. I'll put this in perspective; it's like Halo Wars winning best RTS of 2009 over games like Starcraft 2, or Dawn of War 2 or Empire: Total War, would that seem rather rediculous to you? Just because it does good for it's platform does NOT dictate it had the best overall.
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#98 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Does it matter? He gave Killzone a PERFECT score. If you were to stretch that out into a 1-10 scale, it would stretch out to 10 then since a 10 here is considered a perfect score.

Nerd_Man
Yes it does matter. How hard was it back when Gamespot had the .1 numerical scale for a game to achieve a 10 out of 10? Sure enough, when we switch to .5 scale... we get two AAAAs in a frickin' year. On a scale such as that, it's rather easy to get a perfect 5 star out of 5 star. The ratings are just too different to compare.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="killerfist"] Not to the same extend, but still a technical achievement. I'm not out to start an argument here, just trying to understand why GS did it lol.

Ah, I know -- just trying to put it in a way so you, or anyone for that matter, to understand that Gamespot was clearly biased in picking the Best Graphics. yes, it would be a technical achievement on that platform... but it wouldn't have the Best technical graphics of the year though. I'll put this in perspective; it's like Halo Wars winning best RTS of 2009 over games like Starcraft 2, or Dawn of War 2 or Empire: Total War, would that seem rather rediculous to you? Just because it does good for it's platform does NOT dictate it had the best overall.

Well doesn't that make the sites that gave best graphics the bias ones? Cause Best Graphics Technical kinda seems to imply "dependent on the tech".
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[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"]

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]That's interesting as Gamespot thought Halo 3 was better than KZ2 9.5 > 9.0-DrRobotnik-

This might scare you, but Jeff Gertsmann gave Halo 3 a 9.5 out of 10.

Can you guess what HE gave Killzone 2 over at Giantbomb? A perfect 5 out of 5.

If we're going by what the same person thought of both games, then Killzone 2 wins.

Dude, you'll give yourself a hernia reaching that much.

I was gunna reach further and say standards change over time, if Killzone 2 was exactly just as good as Halo 3 then it would have scored worse than 9.5 since the time between the two.