Killzone 2 vs Halo: reach. Graphics

[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Who said it needs to be better?? I think it looks excellent as it is, and if you get the obligatory size of engagements, and the relative non-linearity in Halo compared to Killzone, then I won't really care.

siddhu33

Compared to Killzone 2, which is just an exercise in corridors, Yes.

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]

great graphics =/= great game

Which is why Halo 3 is still played by more than 500,000 people today.

[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Who said it needs to be better?? I think it looks excellent as it is, and if you get the obligatory size of engagements, and the relative non-linearity in Halo compared to Killzone, then I won't really care.

siddhu33

Compared to Killzone 2, which is just an exercise in corridors, Yes.

Before the VGA, i would have said Killzone 2 easily and by a long shot. But now, Halo Reach has the better character models. Overall, it'll probably be very close.

We can't speculate graphics, but we can speculate which will be the better game, and Reach will take it by miles.

Reach, it will be the most recent.

-Red-Cell-

From what weve seen so far Killzone 2>>>Halo reach

which do you think will have the better graphics................................ Why did I ask this we already know the answer :P

which do you think will have the better graphics................................ Why did I ask this we already know the answer :P

BlackTragedy

People need to wait and see, instead of arguing over a game we haven't really seen yet. Only fanboys do that.

[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

which do you think will have the better graphics................................ Why did I ask this we already know the answer :P

CanYouDiglt

So you're saying sales make it a better game?

One game could look cool, or be really hyped, everyone buys it and it flops. While the other is not hyped at all, and no one really knows about it, a few people buy it, and it turns out to be awesome.

Im playing KZ2 right now for the first time and it does have some really nice graphics and lighting. But I think Reach will look better

[QUOTE="-Red-Cell-"]

Reach, it will be the most recent.

BlackTragedy

recent doesnt alway = better graphics

I love the arguement of ignorant fanboys in the afternoon. :)

I have almost no information about Reach´s graphics but i think it will be the best looking one. 360 and PS3 are technically even and Reach is the most recent game.

Killzone 2. Reach's graphics are good, but they don't even compare to KZ2's. And we still haven't seen any Halo gameplay footage so...

You're 10 months too early

Not comparable at the moment. :P

Killzone 2. Reach's graphics are good, but they don't even compare to KZ2's. And we still haven't seen any Halo gameplay footage so...

brickdoctor

Killzone 2. Reach's graphics are good, but they don't even compare to KZ2's. And we still haven't seen any Halo gameplay footage so...

Killzone 2. Reach's graphics are good, but they don't even compare to KZ2's. And we still haven't seen any Halo gameplay footage so...

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="mythrol"] If we haven't seen any footage, then how can you say Killzone 2 has better graphics? Fanboy much?mythrol

They're two different type of games. KZ2 made a lot of sacrifices to get the graphics to where they are (I own and enjoy it). Everything from turn speed and movement, over blurring whenever you're in cover, to the lack of vibrant colors and level designs that are bordering on being claustrophobic . . .this was all done to try and amp the graphics up as much as possible. Halo on the other hand has always been about vibrant colors, WIDE OPEN levels, and fast paced action. To try and compare graphics blindly without considering these factors is not only silly but downright fanboyish. Gameplay has a large impact on graphics and in that department I think I might give the edge to Bungie. mythrol

[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

which do you think will have the better graphics................................ Why did I ask this we already know the answer :P

CanYouDiglt

Witch one more people want =/= better game

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="mythrol"] If we haven't seen any footage, then how can you say Killzone 2 has better graphics? Fanboy much?mythrol

Don't be silly, KZ2 had a complete GAMEPLAY trailer that came out -- and the game ended up better looking than the first media, at the same time we received untouched screenshots of the game. Reach on the other hand... We have a cutscene, that wasn't even running in realtime along with Bungie's record of trailers looking better than the actual game in the Halo series. I don't see why we should believe them. From a BWU;

"Because the game is still in the midst of development, which means things like framerate are still in flux, we do something called a "frame dump" that lets us spit out the content, frame by frame, and then compile it back as the video you all saw on Saturday. We can actually run this same cinematic right now, within the latest game build, but it's not always at the consistent smooth framerate of the final game"

"The single biggest difference between this trailer and the final game will be the extra generous amount of anti-aliasing (the smoothing of "jaggies" or edges of pixels) present in what you're watching right now but rest assured that Reach will be significantly improved in this department compared to Halo 3. (The extreme "AA" in the trailer was due to the "frame dump" mentioned above.)"

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU_121809

Funny, the only difference will be the AA and image quality, ironically two of the worst things in Halo 3. Lul lul.

We can speculate all we want but until we see a finished product in Halo Reach there is little reason to have this discussion.

If REACH doesn't surpass KZ2 then when is MS going to have a game that looks better?

Anyone remember when Killzone came out MS saying this?

http://www.gameguru.in/microsoft-xbox-360/2009/02/future-xbox-360-exclusives-will-surpass-killzone-2-microsoft/

[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] we saw a trailer. and obviously the gameplay will look worse so...inertk

Don't be silly, KZ2 had a complete GAMEPLAY trailer that came out -- and the game ended up better looking than the first media, at the same time we received untouched screenshots of the game. Reach on the other hand... We have a cutscene, that wasn't even running in realtime along with Bungie's record of trailers looking better than the actual game in the Halo series. I don't see why we should believe them. From a BWU;

"Because the game is still in the midst of development, which means things like framerate are still in flux, we do something called a "frame dump" that lets us spit out the content, frame by frame, and then compile it back as the video you all saw on Saturday. We can actually run this same cinematic right now, within the latest game build, but it's not always at the consistent smooth framerate of the final game"

"The single biggest difference between this trailer and the final game will be the extra generous amount of anti-aliasing (the smoothing of "jaggies" or edges of pixels) present in what you're watching right now but rest assured that Reach will be significantly improved in this department compared to Halo 3. (The extreme "AA" in the trailer was due to the "frame dump" mentioned above.)"

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU_121809

Funny, the only difference will be the AA and image quality, ironically two of the worst things in Halo 3. Lul lul.

[QUOTE="johnny27"][QUOTE="-Red-Cell-"]

Reach, it will be the most recent.

skektek

The discussion is between Killzone 2 and Halo: Reach. At this point you are just trolling.

So therefore, this post is totally relevant, as it isn't just mindless Crysis spam, but it actually means something because its used to prove a theory wrong. Therefore, your post has no meaning, and adds nothing to the conversation, therefore, your post I should say is

If REACH doesn't surpass KZ2 then when is MS going to have a game that looks better?

EmperorSupreme

Halo is not MSoft's yet, it is Bungie's. Especially now that Bungie is a third party developer. Plus, I wouldn't hope for any Bungie-made game to be a graphical powerhouse.

[QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="mythrol"] I find that ironic saying the exact game we're comparing Reach to, had a trailer that came out early on that no one believed it would match . . . and yet it did.mythrol

Don't be silly, KZ2 had a complete GAMEPLAY trailer that came out -- and the game ended up better looking than the first media, at the same time we received untouched screenshots of the game. Reach on the other hand... We have a cutscene, that wasn't even running in realtime along with Bungie's record of trailers looking better than the actual game in the Halo series. I don't see why we should believe them. From a BWU;

"Because the game is still in the midst of development, which means things like framerate are still in flux, we do something called a "frame dump" that lets us spit out the content, frame by frame, and then compile it back as the video you all saw on Saturday. We can actually run this same cinematic right now, within the latest game build, but it's not always at the consistent smooth framerate of the final game"

"The single biggest difference between this trailer and the final game will be the extra generous amount of anti-aliasing (the smoothing of "jaggies" or edges of pixels) present in what you're watching right now but rest assured that Reach will be significantly improved in this department compared to Halo 3. (The extreme "AA" in the trailer was due to the "frame dump" mentioned above.)"

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU_121809

Funny, the only difference will be the AA and image quality, ironically two of the worst things in Halo 3. Lul lul.

This has got to be a joke. :lol:

Killzone 2 has amazing multiplayer i really dont care about the graphics just aslong it s has good online play but with Halo Reach i guess i would have to wait and find out

Halo Reach.

The trailer looked pretty good.

And the game comes out next fall, so Bungie has plenty of time to polish it and make it look even better.

Only PS3 fanboys say otherwise....

KZ2. It has the best console graphics ever.

Halo Reach.

The trailer looked pretty good.

And the game comes out next fall, so Bungie has plenty of time to polish it and make it look even better.

Only PS3 fanboys say otherwise....

deathtarget04

But KZ2 pushes PS3 graphics to the limit and Ps3 has better graphics genreally besides recent multiplat games

a. way too soon to tell

b. who cares, as long as each game is good.

This has got to be a joke. :lol:

RadecSupreme

Im guessing you also think Killzone 2. I think we are the last sane people alive.