Killzone 3 NEW GRAPHICS KING and in ALPHA code too

[QUOTE="worknow222"][QUOTE="yugioh3ds"]

especially on the 360.....alan wake, halo reach, splinter cell conviction

yugioh3ds

YES and Halo Reach is also.....

-sub HD

-extremely dumn enemy AI

-2d bullets/ explosions

-inferior facial models

Killzone 3: Now has brown, orange, black, AND WHITE!

Looks good, maybe even console graphics king...but not THE king. Crysis still holds that crown (and while Metro 2033 sits as his right-hand man :P)

ChubbyGuy40

I don't get it...The color looks fine to me. Does it need to look like Mario Galaxy or something?

I'd rather have real world color. Sorry the setting is cloudy.

[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"][QUOTE="worknow222"] LMAO!! you have never played reach have you? sub HD yes, Bad Ai? NO!!extremely Good AI ( you not that bright in spelling are you? it's *Dumb*) 2d bullets umm NO!!! there bullets that are clearly 3d when looking at them in theater, inferior facial models again you played reach?

worknow222

Looks very nice. The only FPS I will enjoy after i'm done with Reach for quite some time I imagine.

I wouldnt call it Graphics King, just asI wouldnt call KZ2 Graphics King. They both have tons of dog ugly flat nasty textures.

Looks very nice. The only FPS I will enjoy after i'm done with Reach for quite some time I imagine.

I wouldnt call it Graphics King, just asI wouldnt call KZ2 Graphics King. They both have tons of dog ugly flat nasty textures.

[QUOTE="worknow222"][QUOTE="yugioh3ds"] And you are the1000th lemming silly enough to hype Halo Reach as console graphics king? Even Lemmings will laugh at lemmings trying to hype a gameplay king as graphics kingjustsayin117

Character Models, Gun models and Lighting is where Reach Excells. I wouldnt say KZ3 has it beat in either of them aspects.

The lighting Halo uses may not appeal to you(Causeit's not ridiculously overdone) but it's technically more impressive then KZ2's, and im sure KZ3's

Looks very nice. The only FPS I will enjoy after i'm done with Reach for quite some time I imagine.

I wouldnt call it Graphics King, just asI wouldnt call KZ2 Graphics King. They both have tons of dog ugly flat nasty textures.

[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"][QUOTE="worknow222"] LMAO!! you have never played reach have you? sub HD yes, Bad Ai? NO!!extremely Good AI ( you not that bright in spelling are you? it's *Dumb*) 2d bullets umm NO!!! there bullets that are clearly 3d when looking at them in theater, inferior facial models again you played reach?

worknow222

Not even gonna argue....

The snow particle effects in KZ3 just face palms any Halo Reach particle effects. I'm not even gonna go into the explosions and dust/ smoke effects etc

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Looks very nice. The only FPS I will enjoy after i'm done with Reach for quite some time I imagine.

I wouldnt call it Graphics King, just asI wouldnt call KZ2 Graphics King. They both have tons of dog ugly flat nasty textures.

justsayin117

It has a lot of excellent textures. Then you spot a mountain of completely flat grabage and feel like youre playing MGS4.

[QUOTE="justsayin117"]

[QUOTE="worknow222"] I am not hyping reach just saying reach has qualities that are better looking than Killzone 3 un the end killzone 3 will look better in environments and Gun models but it will have inferior qualities to reach in one way or another, Again not hyping reachs graphics dont jump to such a BS consumption.-Snooze-

Character Models, Gun models and Lighting is where Reach Excells. I wouldnt say KZ3 has it beat in either of them aspects.

The lighting Halo uses may not appeal to you(Causeit's not ridiculously overdone) but it's technically more impressive then KZ2's, and im sure KZ3's

Uhhh, those aspects espicially are where KZ2/3 destroy reach graphically

In-game renders

[QUOTE="worknow222"][QUOTE="yugioh3ds"] And you are the1000th lemming silly enough to hype Halo Reach as console graphics king? Even Lemmings will laugh at lemmings trying to hype a gameplay king as graphics kingjustsayin117

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="justsayin117"] Uhhh :?. KZ3 looks much better than HR in every single category possible. Character models? KZ3 Post processing? KZ3 Lighting? KZ3 Animation? KZ3 Weapon models? KZ3 Particle effects? KZ3 etc,etc

justsayin117

Character Models, Gun models and Lighting is where Reach Excells. I wouldnt say KZ3 has it beat in either of them aspects.

The lighting Halo uses may not appeal to you(Causeit's not ridiculously overdone) but it's technically more impressive then KZ2's, and im sure KZ3's

Uhhh, those aspects espicially are where KZ2/3 destroy reach graphically

In-game renders

No offence, but i'm not even going to consider your opinion 'cause i very much doubt you've played Reach.

I'm not argying Reach is better looking then either Killzone 2 or 3, but when it comes to character/ gun models and lighting, Reach rivals if not surpasses them

Uncharted 2 and Gears 3 look better to me than KZ3navyguy21

For 3 years games have been hyped as graphics king, for three years they have all failed.

KZ3 will be no different

You left out console.

mitu123

this isn't console wars.

[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"]

[QUOTE="worknow222"] just so you know halo reach still has better textures, backdrops and facial animations and explosions and character moodels on enemys :) Innovazero2000

YES and Halo Reach is also.....

-sub HD

-extremely dumn enemy AI

-2d bullets/ explosions

-inferior facial models

AGREED.My man...knows what is talking about.If Reach does ANYTHING better than any other its alpha effects such as explosion.Full res ftw!

[QUOTE="worknow222"][QUOTE="yugioh3ds"] And you are the1000th lemming silly enough to hype Halo Reach as console graphics king? Even Lemmings will laugh at lemmings trying to hype a gameplay king as graphics kingjustsayin117

it sure is. and I bet Killzone's draw distances are much better as well?:lol:

oh wait. that's a 2d Background, you don't go anywhere but forward anyways:lol:

[QUOTE="AiurProtoss"]oh look more corridors.justsayin117

then you have never played Halo then. gunplay easy and boring not fast paced, no oddball no win. No griffball no win, it will be jsut like Killzone 2 hyped to **** but only a million sales and 50,000 players playing on it less than one year down the road. Campaign will be awesome if garbage qualifies as such, cant say much for the multiplayer, considering its limited to PSplus users which doesn't test their server strength, or wait they aren't anticipating that many people actually playing this game. o well i guess.

And for the 1 millionth time, no a PS3 exclusive will not look better than other PC titles. :P

How could Killzone 3 be the best looking game out there judging by that video? It looks like countless other FPS games. It looks good but not great. The graphics for Unreal Tornament 3 impressed me more than KZ3 has so far.

people on here hallucinating...

are they seriously comparing Halo Reach and Unreal tournament to KZ3 in terms of graphics?

HAAHAHAHAHAhahahaha...

Killzone 3 laughs at the weak

people on here hallucinating...

are they seriously comparing Halo Reach and Unreal tournament to KZ3 in terms of graphics?

HAAHAHAHAHAhahahaha...

Killzone 3 laughs at the weak

Impress3

people on here hallucinating...

are they seriously comparing Halo Reach and Unreal tournament to KZ3 in terms of graphics?

HAAHAHAHAHAhahahaha...

Killzone 3 laughs at the weak

Impress3

that's ok. even though Reach matches many things, and does it's own things. very well.

it gets the last laugh, along with UT for being a completely respectable franchise. ;)

God damn, so much butt hurtedness from non PS3 owners, its like you can't bring yourself to admit that Killzone 3 is a gorgeous game, REGARDLESS of whether its king...

Oh, and for those saying Gears 3 and Rage look better, care to upload some DIRECT FEED NON BULLSHOTS of them like I did to compare?? Or are you basing your ignorant assumptions on bullshots and 720p streamed videos? (lol)

God damn, so much butt hurtedness from non PS3 owners, its like you can't bring yourself to admit that Killzone 3 is a gorgeous game, REGARDLESS of whether its king...

Oh, and for those saying Gears 3 and Rage look better, care to upload some DIRECT FEED NON BULLSHOTS of them like I did to compare?? Or are you basing your ignorant assumptions on bullshots and 720p streamed videos? (lol)

Sw33tChilLi

Who's saying KZ3 isn't a good looking game? No one in this thread, maybe you're confused?

All the video's we've seen of Gears look better fhen the crappy screenshots shown to us in this thread ...

meh, you guys arent sick of the same exact gameplay in all console shooters?

Killzone 3 is a good looking game.......for consoles.

Not sure why people like to use horrible youtube videos to judge graphics.

AGREED.My man...knows what is talking about.If Reach does ANYTHING better than any other its alpha effects such as explosion.Full res ftw!

Bus-A-Bus

Erm, no. Killzone 2 and Crysis still have the best explosions I've ever seen; I'll give Reach the character models, but the gun models in KZ2 probably and arguably look better than Crysis's, and as quite a few critics have expressed before, the explosions in KZ2 are maybe the best in any game.

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

AGREED.My man...knows what is talking about.If Reach does ANYTHING better than any other its alpha effects such as explosion.Full res ftw!

Weird_Jerk

Erm, no. Killzone 2 and Crysis still have the best explosions I've ever seen; I'll give Reach the character models, but the gun models in KZ2 probably and arguably look better than Crysis's, and as quite a few critics have expressed before, the explosions in KZ2 are maybe the best in any game.

LOL no.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL-UJksVtlA

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEYkQ5ZKrjY

[QUOTE="Sw33tChilLi"]

Who's saying KZ3 isn't a good looking game? No one in this thread, maybe you're confused?

All the video's we've seen of Gears look better then the crappy screenshots shown to us in this thread ...

-Snooze-

Can I detect some irony?

And the people saying it isn't a good looking game ?

all i see is brown and horrible textures Blaze Agent

oh look more corridors. AiurProtoss

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

AGREED.My man...knows what is talking about.If Reach does ANYTHING better than any other its alpha effects such as explosion.Full res ftw!

Weird_Jerk

Erm, no. Killzone 2 and Crysis still have the best explosions I've ever seen; I'll give Reach the character models, but the gun models in KZ2 probably and arguably look better than Crysis's, and as quite a few critics have expressed before, the explosions in KZ2 are maybe the best in any game.

I am talking purely on quality side...effect by it self is not so great IMO in Reach but those particles that go out are higher res than in KZ3,probably 4 times higher.That does not mean much since its artstyle,purple pink and red particles dont really look all that convincing :)

[QUOTE="Weird_Jerk"]

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

AGREED.My man...knows what is talking about.If Reach does ANYTHING better than any other its alpha effects such as explosion.Full res ftw!

Hakkai007

Erm, no. Killzone 2 and Crysis still have the best explosions I've ever seen; I'll give Reach the character models, but the gun models in KZ2 probably and arguably look better than Crysis's, and as quite a few critics have expressed before, the explosions in KZ2 are maybe the best in any game.

LOL no.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL-UJksVtlA

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEYkQ5ZKrjY

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Weird_Jerk"]

Erm, no. Killzone 2 and Crysis still have the best explosions I've ever seen; I'll give Reach the character models, but the gun models in KZ2 probably and arguably look better than Crysis's, and as quite a few critics have expressed before, the explosions in KZ2 are maybe the best in any game.

Ragingbear505

LOL no.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL-UJksVtlA

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEYkQ5ZKrjY

[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"] sorry those photos look ugly. Does not help your argument at all.. Maybe its just your PC justsayin117

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Weird_Jerk"]

Erm, no. Killzone 2 and Crysis still have the best explosions I've ever seen; I'll give Reach the character models, but the gun models in KZ2 probably and arguably look better than Crysis's, and as quite a few critics have expressed before, the explosions in KZ2 are maybe the best in any game.

Ragingbear505

LOL no.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL-UJksVtlA

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEYkQ5ZKrjY

[QUOTE="justsayin117"][QUOTE="muscleserge"] These screens > KZ3, the style in Clear Sky is better, plus higher rez(16x10), bigger maps, more IA, Lighting in Clear Sky > KZ3, higher FPS (60+ in my case), day/night cycle, etc. Overall Clear Sky is a better lokking game, while being bigger and more complex.muscleserge

it will be a bit, crysis didnt sell nearly as well as it could have. All they needed to do was make a spiritual successor to far cry with good graphics. Instead they made a game nobody could run.

TerrorRizzing

My 2007 pc runs crysis on high a 1680x1050 just fine.

With a modified config I can run it on settings that look like very high just fine.

i think that is bland, reach better, and Gears blows that away more virsirousity in Gears... sorry.

Can I detect some irony?

And the people saying it isn't a good looking game ?

Sw33tChilLi

I said the screenshots looked crap, which they do. If you're trying to tell me these poor screenshots ofALPHA gameplay are indictive of the final game (Im sure you're not ...) Then yes, I do think the game looks crap, and i was wrong in what i said.

Also, it's ok to express a negative opinion about a certain aspect of a games visuals and still think it's a good looking game. Maybe you should stop crying and enjoy it yourself.

[QUOTE="Weird_Jerk"]

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

AGREED.My man...knows what is talking about.If Reach does ANYTHING better than any other its alpha effects such as explosion.Full res ftw!

Bus-A-Bus

Erm, no. Killzone 2 and Crysis still have the best explosions I've ever seen; I'll give Reach the character models, but the gun models in KZ2 probably and arguably look better than Crysis's, and as quite a few critics have expressed before, the explosions in KZ2 are maybe the best in any game.

I am talking purely on quality side...effect by it self is not so great IMO in Reach but those particles that go out are higher res than in KZ3,probably 4 times higher.That does not mean much since its artstyle,purple pink and red particles dont really look all that convincing :)

Ah, sorry; I thought you were talking on a technical side. Technically, as I said before, I have no doubt that Halo Reach's models are better than KZ2's, but the explosions and such are technically superior in Killzone 2. Halo Reach, however, does have extremely beautiful explosions. The shock wave that goes out when you fire a rocket launcher is pretty awesome.

Pre-release games are always the new graphics king.

Mystic-G

This

I said the screenshots looked crap, which they do. If you're trying to tell me these poor screenshots ofALPHA gameplay are indictive of the final game (Im sure you're not ...) Then yes, I do think the game looks crap, and i was wrong in what i said

-Snooze-

EDIT: "Also, it's ok to express a negative opinion about a certain aspect of a games visuals and still think it's a good looking game. Maybe you should stop crying and enjoy it yourself."

Of course its ok, but to say that the game in general looks crappy and then following up with saying that its a "good looking game".... I dont geddit

This threads never go out of style...

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="Weird_Jerk"]

Erm, no. Killzone 2 and Crysis still have the best explosions I've ever seen; I'll give Reach the character models, but the gun models in KZ2 probably and arguably look better than Crysis's, and as quite a few critics have expressed before, the explosions in KZ2 are maybe the best in any game.

Weird_Jerk

I am talking purely on quality side...effect by it self is not so great IMO in Reach but those particles that go out are higher res than in KZ3,probably 4 times higher.That does not mean much since its artstyle,purple pink and red particles dont really look all that convincing :)

Ah, sorry; I thought you were talking on a technical side. Technically, as I said before, I have no doubt that Halo Reach's models are better than KZ2's, but the explosions and such are technically superior in Killzone 2. Halo Reach, however, does have extremely beautiful explosions. The shock wave that goes out when you fire a rocket launcher is pretty awesome.

Well, its just sexier than before so I can dig it 8). Going by the update from alpha-to-final in KZ2, KZ3 should have a slight graphical upgrade by the time its released.

This is a multiplayer vid too. Multiplayer modes this gen usually don't look as good as their single player counterpart. KZ2 came very close to matching the single player graphics-wise. I'm thinking KZ3's single player will still look better than the MP, but the technical mastery going on here is impressive (3D and 720p as well).

I was happy to hear that the game looks better on an HDTV as Youtube obviously compresses the video's quality (stated by the Invidious guy). I'm looking forward to seeing just how much better it will look, because the 720p video in the OP was awesome. I'm a graphics hoe, so I pay attention to small stuff like that lol.

A graphical thing I would like to see updated are expressions on the Inflitrator's and Engineer's face. Right now they are a bit lifeless expression-wise. It would be nice to see them squirm as they get hit with a brutal melee.

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More demanding of my attention is the smoothness of the gameplay and framerate. Responsive and slick. There are some new gameplay updates I've noticed in recent beta videos as well. Players earn ribbons doing various things on the battlefield, which are objective/kill related from the looks of it. For example, there was a Faster Aiming ribbon a player earned in one video by killing multiple enemies while aiming down the sight/scope. Once you earn a specific ribbon, it's attribute lasts for the rest of the match, even if you die. I think that's a neat addition. It's a streak reward of sorts, but noob players who work hard for it get to keep it for the rest of the match (as does everyone else).

The point system looks very satisfying. I know many people who despise Call of Duty will automatically bash this addition in KZ3. I have to side with GG on this one though. You are rewarded for everything that benefits your team such as Territory Neutralized; Speaker Pick Up; Sentry Kill etc. It gives you a feeling of helping your team, while feeling like the top dog on your team, even if you're at the bottom. Like you've accomplished something at least. This will help keep a more players happy, possibly making the community bigger than in KZ2 (which is a somewhat decent size right now).

I'm very pleased from what I'm seeing so far. Some cool weapons are returning like the Battle Pistol and Luger's SMG. Some weapons have slight upgrades. Overall, the weapon list still feels a bit bare in MP. I'm sure they are saving some cool weapons for single player. They may even add them in map packs as power pick ups similar to KZ2.