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#1 Dibdibdobdobo
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GOLDENEYE 007.

rated higher than both, sold more copies than any installment of both franchises will ever do(8.09 million).

Quite litterally this is the Holy Grail of FPS on Consoles.

Sadly you can go on about The Halo Killer or the Killzone Killer but neither will ever be a Goldeneye Killer

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#2 Cole-Protocal
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ok as a sheep in the N64 era...i will debate till hell freezes over about this.

Perfect Dark >>>>>> Goldeneye

Rare made both games. They made perfect dark with better knowledge of how to program for the console. As a result:

Higher polygon count (with the help of the expansion pack)

Smarter AI

Multiplayer improved (even included upgraded Goldeneye maps)

Weapons have secondary functions (goldeneye weapons had only one mode). Plus PD had alien weapons which were amazing.

Sci-fi story was amazing and well written.

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#3 CB4McGusto
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GODeneye>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life

N64 = best console eva!!!!!!!!! Better than both psone and ps2, snes, dreamcast, 360 all of em'

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#4 Dibdibdobdobo
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ok as a sheep in the N64 era...i will debate till hell freezes over about this.

Perfect Dark >>>>>> Goldeneye

Cole-Protocal

Perfect Dark i regard as the best FPS ever to grace a Console. It didnt sell aswell though as Golden Eye. It only sold 2.52 million but is a better game.

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#5 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

GODeneye>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life

N64 = best console eva!!!!!!!!! Better than both psone and ps2, snes, dreamcast, 360 all of em'

I guess your still gaming on it regularly?
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#6 Cole-Protocal
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[QUOTE="Cole-Protocal"]

ok as a sheep in the N64 era...i will debate till hell freezes over about this.

Perfect Dark >>>>>> Goldeneye

Dibdibdobdobo

Perfect Dark i regard as the best FPS ever to grace a Console. It didnt sell aswell though as Golden Eye. It only sold 2.52 million but is a better game.

glad you agree.

now if Rare made this onto XBLA with Live multiplayer i wont touch anything else on the 360 for the rest of the year!

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#7 ocdchild
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Ahhh, Goldeneye. One of the first shooters I really fell in love with. Even though Perfect Dark was a better game, for some reason the good memories I have with Goldeneye make that the better game. Heh.
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#8 -DrRobotnik-
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Unfortunately Goldeneye hasnt aged well, and so Halo is the spiritual successor.
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#9 Dibdibdobdobo
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Unfortunately Goldeneye hasnt aged well, and so Halo is the spiritual successor.-DrRobotnik-
No actually Perfect Dark was the successor.
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#10 CreepyBacon
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Hasn't Halo 3 already sold more than that? Thought it did.

Anywho i prefered Perfect Dark.

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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Unfortunately Goldeneye hasnt aged well, and so Halo is the spiritual successor.Dibdibdobdobo
No actually Perfect Dark was the successor.

That hasnt aged that well either. Playing an FPS with one analogue stick is fail.
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#12 IcemanLBC
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"too" means also............

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#13 nintendofreak_2
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Perfect Dark >>>>>> Goldeneye

Cole-Protocal
Definitely. Perfect Dark had just about everything right. Too bad neither one has aged well though. >_>
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#14 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Unfortunately Goldeneye hasnt aged well, and so Halo is the spiritual successor.-DrRobotnik-
No actually Perfect Dark was the successor.

That hasnt aged that well either. Playing an FPS with one analogue stick is fail.

You can use dual Tridents... I tried it several Months ago after reading it on GS and it works fine. The control method is fine with one analogue stick. Its like the Wii-mote > dual analogues. The wii's more advance but people still manage to use the dual analogue.
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#15 defghik
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I loved Goldeneye back in the late 90's, but unfortunately it has not aged well at ALL. It was great for it's time, but if it came out today with updated graphics I would probably give it a 5/10.
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#16 MarloStanfield
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FEAR 2 is the only correct answer. It'll be much better than Halo and it'll blow shovelware like killzone 2 out of the water
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#17 Corey_Barlog_SM
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Timesplitters 2 is the best console FPS of all time.
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#18 Blue-Sky
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Goldeneye overrating is the result of a fanboy trying to look hardcore by supporting a critically acclaimed game of the past that most posters by today's standards probably haven't played.

Its like Chrono Trigger, neither title has held up against time. A real gem, like OoT stands out even by today's standards.

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#19 SupremeLegacy
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Wow. Awesome.
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#20 Synthetic_NinJI
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I tire of talking about Golden Eye
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FEAR 2 is the only correct answer. It'll be much better than Halo and it'll blow shovelware like killzone 2 out of the waterMarloStanfield

you actually feel that way? cuz this looks alot like flamebait

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#22 Mr_Apple_Soup
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Timesplitters 2 is the best console FPS of all time.Corey_Barlog_SM

but the series will never be complete :(

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[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"]FEAR 2 is the only correct answer. It'll be much better than Halo and it'll blow shovelware like killzone 2 out of the waterMr_Apple_Soup

you actually feel that way? cuz this looks alot like flamebait

yes I actually feel that a sequel to an AAA game from monolith will be better than a 5 hour long expansion pack and a **** sequel to a **** game from **** devs
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#24 Mr_Apple_Soup
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[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"]FEAR 2 is the only correct answer. It'll be much better than Halo and it'll blow shovelware like killzone 2 out of the waterMarloStanfield

you actually feel that way? cuz this looks alot like flamebait

yes I actually feel that a sequel to an AAA game from monolith will be better than a 5 hour long expansion pack and a **** sequel to a **** game from **** devs

:lol: you're really going to tell me that killzone 2 is shovelware? have you ever seen the "games" section in gamestop for the wii? killzone wasnt a "bad" game, it had tons of potential, and wont it be funny if they actually capitalize on that in the games SEQUEL? ever heard of resistance 2?

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#25 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Perfect dark >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goldenye>>> halo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any exclusive fps on the ps3
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#26 Sully28
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ok as a sheep in the N64 era...i will debate till hell freezes over about this.

Perfect Dark >>>>>> Goldeneye

Rare made both games. They made perfect dark with better knowledge of how to program for the console. As a result:

Higher polygon count (with the help of the expansion pack)

Smarter AI

Multiplayer improved (even included upgraded Goldeneye maps)

Weapons have secondary functions (goldeneye weapons had only one mode). Plus PD had alien weapons which were amazing.

Sci-fi story was amazing and well written.

Cole-Protocal

Also having bots with splitscreen was so much fun. Having 4 of your friends vs a team of bots which you could personalize was amazing. Man i wish rare made this gens perfect dark that good.

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#27 naruto7777
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yes but Halo has more online players
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#28 jayymasterflex
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i loved my n64 it still works from like 10 years ago now thats a reliable console
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#29 Ragashahs
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why is there so much love for old titles? i luv my oldies like any other guy but somepeople still keep them in high regard. to me MGS1 is one of the greatest game ever if not the greatest however if your going to ask me which is better between MGS1 and MGS2 it easily MGS2 cause it added to the greatness of MGS1. Golden eye was great and ahead of it's time but now KZ and Halo easily outclass. leave the past in the past when comparing current gen games cause it's unfair to both sides
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#30 MetroidPrimePwn
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Its like Chrono Trigger, neither title has held up against time.

Blue-Sky

It doesn't hold up, which is why Chrono Trigger DS is one of the most critically acclaimed games of this year?

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#31 Guybrush_3
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Timesplitters 2 is the best console FPS of all time.Corey_Barlog_SM

Thank god someone recognises the greatness of TS2. It's like Perfect Dark on crack. For those of you who don't know it is like perfect dark with better weapons, better levels, better controls, and the fastest gun play on consoles. (Halo is horribly slow in comparison)

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#32 Cooldude224
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Golden Eye was a great game at the time. Now the game is extremly outdated. It doest even compare to the games of today.
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#33 Shenmue_Jehuty
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Agreed. Both Halo and Killzone are overrated; there is nothing overrated about Goldeneye and Perfect Dark
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#34 foxhound_fox
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Unfortunately Goldeneye hasnt aged well, and so Halo is the spiritual successor.-DrRobotnik-

Actually, Halo has nothing to do with the console FPS genre. Timesplitters is the spiritual successor to Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. Halo is just a PC FPS simplified for consoles.
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#35 rolo107
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Sold more copies? lol
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#36 Dibdibdobdobo
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Sold more copies? lolrolo107
Sales = success. No Halo game from 1-3 or KZ will sell 8.09 million copies. Rating = success. No Halo/KZ game will ever be rated higher. Whichever way you rate Goldeneye it will always be #1 in comparison to either of these titlles.
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#37 MarloStanfield
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killzone wasnt a "bad" game

Mr_Apple_Soup

:lol: OK genius, you stick your quality shooters i'll stick to mine. da graphics are awesome so it must be good right?

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ok as a sheep in the N64 era...i will debate till hell freezes over about this.

Perfect Dark >>>>>> Goldeneye

Rare made both games. They made perfect dark with better knowledge of how to program for the console. As a result:

Higher polygon count (with the help of the expansion pack)

Smarter AI

Multiplayer improved (even included upgraded Goldeneye maps)

Weapons have secondary functions (goldeneye weapons had only one mode). Plus PD had alien weapons which were amazing.

Sci-fi story was amazing and well written.

Cole-Protocal

Don't bother trying to tell people on here what a good game is. A good game to them is doing something first, such as Goldeneye making console FPS popular. Even though Perfect Dark takes a huge dump on it in every way imaginable, since it was a "Goldeneye ripoff" (if you don't do things first, according to System Wars it's a ripoff) it sucks and is "teh failz."

90% of the people on here don't know what a good game is. They just hate on any popular/good game simply because it's popular/good and say "oh look at this 3.5 game, it trumps Gaylo/Dullzone in every way imaginable" just to make it look like they are a real gamer.

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#39 Guybrush_3
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Unfortunately Goldeneye hasnt aged well, and so Halo is the spiritual successor.foxhound_fox

Actually, Halo has nothing to do with the console FPS genre. Timesplitters is the spiritual successor to Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. Halo is just a PC FPS simplified for consoles.

Damn I missed that comment. It gets a well deserved

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#40 Dreams-Visions
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TC, you have too many "o"'s in "too" in your OP. Please ammend it to say "...neither of you will be a success in comparison to" you don't want people to think you failed 4th grade english class. quick fix, please. and I btw, FPS games have advanced so far man. I think sometimes we romanticize our gaming experience with certain games...and when we boot some of those games up again, we wish we had never tried to relive them. so limited in scope, scale, ai, graphics and options.
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#41 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Unfortunately Goldeneye hasnt aged well, and so Halo is the spiritual successor.foxhound_fox

Actually, Halo has nothing to do with the console FPS genre. Timesplitters is the spiritual successor to Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. Halo is a FPS that got its start on PC before being perfected for consoles.

fixed for great justice.

sidenote: are there any PC FPS games that do the kind of stat tracking that bungie.net does? like...complete with maps of your kills, deaths, who you killed and at what moment in each match you've played?

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#42 Guybrush_3
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Unfortunately Goldeneye hasnt aged well, and so Halo is the spiritual successor.Dreams-Visions


Actually, Halo has nothing to do with the console FPS genre. Timesplitters is the spiritual successor to Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. Halo is a FPS that got its start on PC before being perfected for consoles.

fixed for great justice.

sidenote: are there any PC FPS games that do the kind of stat tracking that bungie.net does? like...complete with maps of your kills, deaths, who you killed and at what moment in each match you've played?

Halo isnt even close to perfect

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#43 foxhound_fox
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Halo isnt even close to perfect Guybrush_3

*puts on Master Chief helmet*

But if the games haven't improved much (if at all) since the first iteration, that mean they perfected it with that first one!

*takes off Master Chief helmet*
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#44 11Marcel
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Goldeneye may have been good for its time, but in today's standards it would never hold out. Halo CE would be a good game even for today's standards. The graphics and physics may have advanced since then, but there's still AAA games with worse AI (COD series) coming out, and IMO Halo CE still has better fighting gameplay than a lot of the highly rated fps out there.

That's just my opinion though. I'm not saying goldeneye wasn't amazing for it's time.

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#45 deactivated-59da85d821feb
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Perfect Dark was better than Goldeneye. But they're both great.
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#46 Supafly1
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Unfortunately Goldeneye hasnt aged well, and so Halo is the spiritual successor.Dibdibdobdobo
No actually Perfect Dark was the successor.

Are you saying that Dark Perfect has aged well and many people still play it? Not a chance. The thing about Halo 3 versus KZ2 is that will KZ2 bring anything better to the table (except the graphics of course). Seriously, Dark Perfect or Goldeneye don't stand a chance against Halo in this day.

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#47 SituationArea11
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Where are you getting all the information from? Halo 2 outsold GoldenEye 007 and Halo 3 has also done it, allegedly.
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#48 SituationArea11
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[QUOTE="rolo107"]Sold more copies? lolDibdibdobdobo
Sales = success. No Halo game from 1-3 or KZ will sell 8.09 million copies. Rating = success. No Halo/KZ game will ever be rated higher. Whichever way you rate Goldeneye it will always be #1 in comparison to either of these titlles.

Halo 2 has sold more. So has Halo 3, I believe. In addition, the Halo games also brought other crazy sales, like Halo 2's 24-hour sales of 2.4M in North America and Halo 3's 2.5M in the U.S. in 24 hours. And Halo: Combat Evolved is more critically acclaimed than your GoldenEye 007. The Halo series is far more successful than any other first-person shooters on consoles. Sorry!
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#49 waynehead895
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Goldeneye overrating is the result of a fanboy trying to look hardcore by supporting a critically acclaimed game of the past that most posters by today's standards probably haven't played.

Its like Chrono Trigger, neither title has held up against time. A real gem, like OoT stands out even by today's standards.

Blue-Sky
I disagree with the Chrono Trigger statement. The first time I played it was in the middle of last gen and thought it was one of the greatest RPG's.
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#50 acsguitar
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Goldeneye overrating is the result of a fanboy trying to look hardcore by supporting a critically acclaimed game of the past that most posters by today's standards probably haven't played.

Its like Chrono Trigger, neither title has held up against time. A real gem, like OoT stands out even by today's standards.

Blue-Sky

OoT is frustartingly hard in its combat and fetch quests. I keep trying to beat it but get frustrated and quit.

Golden eye is still awesome