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#51 krunkmastax
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Guess we will find out at E3.... when is E3 anyway?

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#52 SambaLele
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i think this game will be a surprise. Sony has reached a level of hype that if the game doesn't look that promising, they should just cancel it. and yet they continue hyping it as hell, only showing it in E3 again...
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#53 miss_kitt3n
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Will it be shown at E3 this year?
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#54 kittykatz5k
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Will it be shown at E3 this year?miss_kitt3n

If it is, it will be massive owning or massive being owned for cows, no mid ground when the game has such falsly built hype as a trailer that stole E3 last year when showing absolutly nothing :P

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#55 Ibacai
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Great post as always TVB, I agree wholeheartedly.
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#56 LordXelNaga
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Whether or not Killzone will end up being like the infamous trailer is an issue dwelt upon too much here. What I feel to be assured, is that this will be the first game to show what the Cell can actually do. Guerilla is by far the most advanced development team in regards to experience and in the field work with the Cell. Their work with the Cell resulted in the production of a development tool which is distributed to all PS3 developers. I can safely say Killzone will be technically the best game on PS3 for 2007/8, whether or not it will be the best game overall is what remains to be seen.
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#57 michael098
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[QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I know what you're gonna say right: "The first Killzone sucked, it only got 6.9/10, so why would this one be any better?". People don't realise that things are a little different this time around.

Well, here are my reasons why I think Killzone for the PS3 could be great:

1. Development Team

There are more than 120 developers in the Netherlands working on the game at the moment. The new Killzone PS3 will be fully translated in 20 different languages. 120 devs is a huge number to be working on the one game, and is a large increase from the original Killzone for PS2. Yes, quality over quantity, but how about you give the devs a chance before making assumptions that the game will suck. There are devs from the original Killzone, the Killzone on PSP which was AA on Gamespot, and many news devs brought in specifically when Sony bought Guerrilla Games.

2. Budget

It is believed that the budget currently surpasses £20 million ($40million), which is comparable to a small-budget Hollywood picture and is the most expensive multimedia project in Holland's history, though this has yet to be confirmed. It will have downloadable content like other contemporary games, possibly in the form of episodic content. Massive budget, and we can only hope that the money could produce a great game (and it very well could).

3. Development Time

It is believed that the game has been in development for over 2 and a half years which is much longer than the rushed Killzone for PS2 which Gamespot claims could have been good with a "few coats of paint". This time, that should not be an issue. The long development time can aid in getting rid of any glitches or bugs, as well as produce an overall solid FPS game. The technical limitations of the PS2 also stopped KZ on PS2 from being as good as it could have been but this issue does not seem apparent with the PS3 according to Guerrilla.

4. Fear of Halo

Sony knows that there was not one (good) exclusive FPS on the PS2. This is one thing critics and the gaming community in general agreed on. That, and the fact that online wasn't great and that there weren't enough 1st party games.

All of that is changing with the PS3. The online is getting better as time goes on, there are plenty of highly anticipated 1st party games coming to the PS3 (Uncharted, Killzone, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Ratchet, Jak, Killzone etc).

And Sony knows it needs to compete with Halo. And you can bet that's the reason Sony bought Guerrilla a while back and that's the reason the game has such a big budget, huge dev team and very long dev time.

That's it. Killzone could be great. Things are different this time around (Budget, 120 dev team, and long development time). I'm not arguing that this game will be great, but it has strong potential to be great, and people have to accept that instead of writing it off as "another FPS", because the shock could very well be too much to handle on release.

What do you guys think?

SambaLele

Those are all reasons why it could look good, not be good, im sorry but its very likely this game will suck.

you know, he wasn't speaking about gfx, but the overall game.

Yea i know but how is having a higher budget going to give the game better gameplay? and having 120 developers doesnt mean they can come up with an awesome game, maybe awesome graphics though.

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#58 KirbyFan10101
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Any game "can" be great. That statement in itself is worthless.

To argue a large budget/steam of developers is somehow an indication of the quality of the finished product is nonsensical.

Killzone disappointed, there is little reason to think the sequel will be more substantial, considering all we know of the game so far is that money is being thrown at it and that Sony promoted a bunch of CGI trailers for it.

Colour me skeptical, but I wouldn't hold any hopes in this game. If it flops, you can say I told you so, if not, you are pleasantly surprised.

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#59 snipe2004
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great thread. i think too it could be a great game a lot of work is being done as the devs said themselves they have alot of pressure to face
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I know what you're gonna say right: "The first Killzone sucked, it only got 6.9/10, so why would this one be any better?". People don't realise that things are a little different this time around.

Well, here are my reasons why I think Killzone for the PS3 could be great:

1. Development Team

There are more than 120 developers in the Netherlands working on the game at the moment. The new Killzone PS3 will be fully translated in 20 different languages. 120 devs is a huge number to be working on the one game, and is a large increase from the original Killzone for PS2. Yes, quality over quantity, but how about you give the devs a chance before making assumptions that the game will suck. There are devs from the original Killzone, the Killzone on PSP which was AA on Gamespot, and many news devs brought in specifically when Sony bought Guerrilla Games.

2. Budget

It is believed that the budget currently surpasses £20 million ($40million), which is comparable to a small-budget Hollywood picture and is the most expensive multimedia project in Holland's history, though this has yet to be confirmed. It will have downloadable content like other contemporary games, possibly in the form of episodic content. Massive budget, and we can only hope that the money could produce a great game (and it very well could).

3. Development Time

It is believed that the game has been in development for over 2 and a half years which is much longer than the rushed Killzone for PS2 which Gamespot claims could have been good with a "few coats of paint". This time, that should not be an issue. The long development time can aid in getting rid of any glitches or bugs, as well as produce an overall solid FPS game. The technical limitations of the PS2 also stopped KZ on PS2 from being as good as it could have been but this issue does not seem apparent with the PS3 according to Guerrilla.

4. Fear of Halo

Sony knows that there was not one (good) exclusive FPS on the PS2. This is one thing critics and the gaming community in general agreed on. That, and the fact that online wasn't great and that there weren't enough 1st party games.

All of that is changing with the PS3. The online is getting better as time goes on, there are plenty of highly anticipated 1st party games coming to the PS3 (Uncharted, Killzone, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Ratchet, Jak, Killzone etc).

And Sony knows it needs to compete with Halo. And you can bet that's the reason Sony bought Guerrilla a while back and that's the reason the game has such a big budget, huge dev team and very long dev time.

That's it. Killzone could be great. Things are different this time around (Budget, 120 dev team, and long development time). I'm not arguing that this game will be great, but it has strong potential to be great, and people have to accept that instead of writing it off as "another FPS", because the shock could very well be too much to handle on release.

What do you guys think?

the-very-best

Some good arguments but the track record of a developer is usually the best indication.

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#61 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

I know what you're gonna say right: "The first Killzone sucked, it only got 6.9/10, so why would this one be any better?". People don't realise that things are a little different this time around.

Well, here are my reasons why I think Killzone for the PS3 could be great:

1. Development Team

There are more than 120 developers in the Netherlands working on the game at the moment. The new Killzone PS3 will be fully translated in 20 different languages. 120 devs is a huge number to be working on the one game, and is a large increase from the original Killzone for PS2. Yes, quality over quantity, but how about you give the devs a chance before making assumptions that the game will suck. There are devs from the original Killzone, the Killzone on PSP which was AA on Gamespot, and many news devs brought in specifically when Sony bought Guerrilla Games.

2. Budget

It is believed that the budget currently surpasses £20 million ($40million), which is comparable to a small-budget Hollywood picture and is the most expensive multimedia project in Holland's history, though this has yet to be confirmed. It will have downloadable content like other contemporary games, possibly in the form of episodic content. Massive budget, and we can only hope that the money could produce a great game (and it very well could).

3. Development Time

It is believed that the game has been in development for over 2 and a half years which is much longer than the rushed Killzone for PS2 which Gamespot claims could have been good with a "few coats of paint". This time, that should not be an issue. The long development time can aid in getting rid of any glitches or bugs, as well as produce an overall solid FPS game. The technical limitations of the PS2 also stopped KZ on PS2 from being as good as it could have been but this issue does not seem apparent with the PS3 according to Guerrilla.

4. Fear of Halo

Sony knows that there was not one (good) exclusive FPS on the PS2. This is one thing critics and the gaming community in general agreed on. That, and the fact that online wasn't great and that there weren't enough 1st party games.

All of that is changing with the PS3. The online is getting better as time goes on, there are plenty of highly anticipated 1st party games coming to the PS3 (Uncharted, Killzone, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Ratchet, Jak, Killzone etc).

And Sony knows it needs to compete with Halo. And you can bet that's the reason Sony bought Guerrilla a while back and that's the reason the game has such a big budget, huge dev team and very long dev time.

That's it. Killzone could be great. Things are different this time around (Budget, 120 dev team, and long development time). I'm not arguing that this game will be great, but it has strong potential to be great, and people have to accept that instead of writing it off as "another FPS", because the shock could very well be too much to handle on release.

What do you guys think?

michael098

Those are all reasons why it could look good, not be good, im sorry but its very likely this game will suck.

you know, he wasn't speaking about gfx, but the overall game.

Yea i know but how is having a higher budget going to give the game better gameplay? and having 120 developers doesnt mean they can come up with an awesome game, maybe awesome graphics though.

Because with 120 developers you have more ideas and more people able to work out gameplay issues. And with more time you are able to polish a game much more. It's pretty much the same as graphics just dealing with physics, AI, controls, story, UI, and presentation.
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#62 useLOGIC
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There alot of develepers only because they need Coders for the PS3 . GeoW was made with 50 devs .

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#63 hongkingkong
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High budget + lots of people working on it + a reasonably good plot - Sony = Gears of War
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#64 King-Arsenal
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I do have a feeling that its going to be a great game. think they will learn from their mistakes.
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#65 whoody12
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cool people from holland make the game ?

im from holland to

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#67 Swift_Boss_A
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Great post dude, I totally agree.

Killzone for the PS3 has so much going on for it, the game is basically dripping with potential. Sony are heavily backing this game unlike Killzone for the PS2, I think Killzone will end up looking , playing and sounding amazing. After all Sony are great at creating video games, they have made a definitive racer in the form of GT, they have also made a great action game in the form of GOW so why won't they be able to create an awesome FPS :?

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#68 joeychew
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this is why i cant wait for e3...wcant wait to see what sony have to show.
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#69 OpticalCanine
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for some strange reason whenever i see/hear someone hypekillzone i want to throw up.
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#70 NobuoMusicMaker
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Sony's giving them plenty of time. Haven't seen a word of it since 2 years ago. Time is all you need to make a good game.
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#71 redstormrisen
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This years E3 is going to be eventful. Thats for sure.
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#72 caseypayne69
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The first post sums up how I feel about Killzone on PS3.

On playstation.com in the forums. Developers for Killzone have started threads to see what gamers want in Killzone. So they are getting gamer feedback put into the game as well.

Like this one

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=killzone&thread.id=71707

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#73 0starter0
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Yes Killzone could be great. The PS3 could be great. The 360 may go the way of the dreamcast. The 360 should be called 1.5. The Wii is a passing fad.
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#74 Solid-CELL
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The first post sums up how I feel about Killzone on PS3.

On playstation.com in the forums. Developers for Killzone have started threads to see what gamers want in Killzone. So they are getting gamer feedback put into the game as well.

Like this one

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=killzone&thread.id=71707

caseypayne69
now thats a SMART development strategy.
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#75 babyhuntar
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killzone 2 is ilently working its way to success,yes,but surpassing halo??naw
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#76 Cubs360
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Yes it could be great. I for one cannot stand the fact that some people, mainly Sony Diehard Fans are already stating that its gonna "Kill Halo 3" which is why most of the hate comes from the Xbox Fans, catch my drift?