Killzone dedicated servers not so dedicated after all.

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] It's called being honest. Guerilla loves pretty graphics and didn't want to compromise too much. Most 60fps dip on consoles anyway.

Unlike Crytek who say 900p for Ryse is a design decision, not a technical limitation. Lolz.

Douevenlift_bro

Also, take your meds.

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]IT'S A FPS FOR GODSAKES!!! TELL US PLEASE WHAT KILLZONE IS GOING TO DO THAT BF4 OR COD GHOSTS AREN'T GOING TO DO BETTER!! PLEASE TELL ALL OF US!!! WilliamRLBaker

Also, take your meds.

:lol: ownage confirmed 

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

[QUOTE="Far_RockNYC"]

Are we seeing the limits of the PS4 already?

ShoTTyMcNaDeS

Unlike Crytek who say 900p for Ryse is a design decision, not a technical limitation. Lolz.

fanboy nerd rage is funny...

Do you have more?

Its just a external ping.  Real dedicated servers actually run the games client code, with the logic running on the server.  This has the logic still running on a local users PS4, just routing all messages through a server.  

EG.  If the host leaves, there will still be migration.  With real dedicated servers there is no host.   

Cali3350

BeastZone is still the best shooter series on the market. 

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="ramonnl"]

Killzone:mp 60 fps/1080p (maybe some drops with 20 explosions on the screen
Ryse: 30fps,900p
dr3: 30fps, 720p 

ShoTTyMcNaDeS

 Thats nice that the one has DS, that will matter for all of their tons and tons of quality exclusives :|     Meanwhile The PS3 is still getting awesome exclusives. While the 360 is dead. Multiplats if anything should run best on PS4.............but yea bout them dedicated servers..........Tell me more about how great Ryse is going to be while Im backlogged with Ni No Kuni, TLOU, Dragons Crown and God of War. Also PS+ shits all over XBL. No comparison.  Im sure that even though Sony has more first and third party studios, more exclusives in production, and a history of dominating exclusives (including this gen) Ms will somehow have the best games :| But hey you guys have Dedicated servers!!!!!!!!!!! Also according to the site we're on and MC, Killzone 2 and 3 are great shooters. Get over it.

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]IT'S A FPS FOR GODSAKES!!! TELL US PLEASE WHAT KILLZONE IS GOING TO DO THAT BF4 OR COD GHOSTS AREN'T GOING TO DO BETTER!! PLEASE TELL ALL OF US!!! BluRayHiDef

Also, take your meds.

BF controls nothing like KZ. What are you talking about, son?

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]IT'S A FPS FOR GODSAKES!!! TELL US PLEASE WHAT KILLZONE IS GOING TO DO THAT BF4 OR COD GHOSTS AREN'T GOING TO DO BETTER!! PLEASE TELL ALL OF US!!! WilliamRLBaker

Also, take your meds.

Why is Killzone 2 the last KZ to have real dedicated servers(so far), and hell up to 32 players(so far) for that matter?

The latter is optional as 24 players is more than perfect for the maps of the game.

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]Killzone does online WAAAAY better than Call of Idiots. BF is a solid FPS but only similar to KZ in that they control alike, unlike COD rollerskates.

 

Also, take your meds.

Douevenlift_bro

BF controls nothing like KZ. What are you talking about, son?

Nah, they are pretty different, KZ has the slowest movement of any of the big FPS titles, cramped spaces, no vehicles. On PS they both have input lag (one of the few PSN exclusive features) though so as a cow confusing the two, you are excused.

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

BF controls nothing like KZ. What are you talking about, son?

sebbi11

Nah, they are pretty different, KZ has the slowest movement of any of the big FPS titles, cramped spaces, no vehicles. On PS they both have input lag (one of the few PSN exclusive features) though so as a cow confusing the two, you are excused.

[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"][QUOTE="ermacness"]Still the ps4 have more exclusives that runs in a native 1080p resolution. The only game we know that runs in a native 1080p resolution on the X1 is Forza 5.

ermacness

You better hope that the X1 multiplats have superior online multiplayer because that's the only edge in multiplats it has right now, over the ps4.

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

BF controls nothing like KZ. What are you talking about, son?

sebbi11

Nah, they are pretty different, KZ has the slowest movement of any of the big FPS titles, cramped spaces, no vehicles. On PS they both have input lag (one of the few PSN exclusive features) though so as a cow confusing the two, you are excused.

Am I missing something blatantly obvious?

What's not so dedicated about the dedicated servers?

MlauTheDaft

Whoa look at the lemmings try to be up on a pedestal. Remember last gen when PC Gamers use to go on about dedicated servers and Xbox lemming f@ggots would go "DEDICATED SERVERS NOT NEEDED BLAH BLAH BLAH"MBirdy88

Thats some lame damage control

:lol:

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Whoa look at the lemmings try to be up on a pedestal. Remember last gen when PC Gamers use to go on about dedicated servers and Xbox lemming f@ggots would go "DEDICATED SERVERS NOT NEEDED BLAH BLAH BLAH"RR360DD

Thats some lame damage control

:lol:

This is the same setup used in previous KZ games right. You log in to Guerrilla's matchmaking/stats server.The game then hosts the game-play through one of the player's connections. ALL GAME-PLAY is handled by player connection. "Session Master Not Available" is basically telling you the person hosting the game dropped out and the game is attempting to make a new host connection. The player's connection then uploads the stats from the game to GG's stats server.

Far_RockNYC

That video is obviously fake because cows told me that only PC has errors and bugs, a gaming console doesn't.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Whoa look at the lemmings try to be up on a pedestal. Remember last gen when PC Gamers use to go on about dedicated servers and Xbox lemming f@ggots would go "DEDICATED SERVERS NOT NEEDED BLAH BLAH BLAH"MBirdy88

Thats some lame damage control

:lol:

bringing pc into it?? oh why oh why.... anyway, the best online is on XBL. sorry, but your PC card has been trumped.

Lmao Can'tsoles.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Thats some lame damage control

:lol:

XBOunity

bringing pc into it?? oh why oh why.... anyway, the best online is on XBL. sorry, but your PC card has been trumped.

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] More like some fact about lame consolites talking double standard crap.MBirdy88

bringing pc into it?? oh why oh why.... anyway, the best online is on XBL. sorry, but your PC card has been trumped.

im not the one trying my friend, you are the one bringing PC into this convo out of nowhere. :roll:

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="XBOunity"]

bringing pc into it?? oh why oh why.... anyway, the best online is on XBL. sorry, but your PC card has been trumped.

XBOunity

im not the one trying my friend, you are the one bringing PC into this convo out of nowhere. :roll:

most of your stupid console 4 vs 4 games don't really need dedicated servers.

and whats even more ironic is half the advantages of dedicated servers E.G CONTROL OVER THE SERVER is not even available to you :lol:

consoles = gimped dedicated servers.

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] You tried too hard, and failed.MBirdy88

im not the one trying my friend, you are the one bringing PC into this convo out of nowhere. :roll:

most of your stupid console 4 vs 4 games don't really need dedicated servers.

and whats even more ironic is half the advantages of dedicated servers E.G CONTROL OVER THE SERVER is not even available to you :lol:

consoles = gimped dedicated servers.

32 vs 32 right off the bat my friend on XBL. PC will not have all the bells and whistles that the XBL online environment provide. it used to be an advantage for PC gamers, now the tech has caught up, and its over buddy. XBL dedis on everything and now will be featuring cpu offload and other A.I enhancement such as drivatars. XBL >>>>>>>>> PC gaming steam etc. that pc backfire lol. you might be better than PSN tho. :lol:

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

im not the one trying my friend, you are the one bringing PC into this convo out of nowhere. :roll:

XBOunity

most of your stupid console 4 vs 4 games don't really need dedicated servers.

and whats even more ironic is half the advantages of dedicated servers E.G CONTROL OVER THE SERVER is not even available to you :lol:

consoles = gimped dedicated servers.

32 vs 32 right off the bat my friend on XBL. PC will not have all the bells and whistles that the XBL online environment provide. it used to be an advantage for PC gamers, now the tech has caught up, and its over buddy. XBL dedis on everything and now will be featuring cpu offload and other A.I enhancement such as drivatars. XBL >>>>>>>>> PC gaming steam etc. that pc backfire lol. you might be better than PSN tho. :lol:

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

im not the one trying my friend, you are the one bringing PC into this convo out of nowhere. :roll:

XBOunity

most of your stupid console 4 vs 4 games don't really need dedicated servers.

and whats even more ironic is half the advantages of dedicated servers E.G CONTROL OVER THE SERVER is not even available to you :lol:

consoles = gimped dedicated servers.

32 vs 32 right off the bat my friend on XBL. PC will not have all the bells and whistles that the XBL online environment provide. it used to be an advantage for PC gamers, now the tech has caught up, and its over buddy. XBL dedis on everything and now will be featuring cpu offload and other A.I enhancement such as drivatars. XBL >>>>>>>>> PC gaming steam etc. that pc backfire lol. you might be better than PSN tho. :lol:

All network devices can use all services avable, everyone are equile, only limits are only ownership and premissions and processing power to proccess data from network. so 32 v 32 is possible everywhere

it is about time Ps4 drones start calling P2P based servers a great deal and cheap (for Sony Corp.) and the slowness/hostmigration adds to the action :roll:

Opus_Rea-333

[QUOTE="Opus_Rea-333"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

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Krelian-co

30 fps silky smooth? :lol:

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]Killzone does online WAAAAY better than Call of Idiots. BF is a solid FPS but only similar to KZ in that they control alike, unlike COD rollerskates.

 

Also, take your meds.

Douevenlift_bro

[QUOTE="Caseytappy"]

 

[QUOTE="super600"]

 

The PS4 will most likely be a successful product by the end of next gen.

super600

Me, Sony and the rest of the world felt the same about the PS3 before the last gen started, even at $600,- .

Who knows, maybe they all will flop next gen.

Anything can happen next gen.

There's no way Sony even thought up of dedicated servers for their system. Kudo's for Microsoft for finally implementing it. Maybe this will have sony play catch up too and finally have some servers on their own. Win win situation here. LOL, but I'm willing to bet most folks here don't even know how dedicated servers even work. People make it seem as if no dedicated servers=lag and dedicated servers=no lag at all. 

So Sony is charging $50 to give you the same crappy server they always run?

Looks like your typical Sony.

So Sony is charging $50 to give you the same crappy server they always run?

 

Looks like your typical Sony.

EducatingU_PCMR

:lol:

Seems like Killzone period! never ran on dedicated servers SMFH!

Makes you wonder how many games are like this, they said KZ2 was and that was pretty much lag free and no one suspected a thing. Wouldn't surprise me if MS was offering a similar situation with their servers, doesn't make financial sense to be dishing out free server space to such big titles, this system would seem sensible.

Wasn't one of the Uncharteds P2P too and that was one of the lowest latency multiplayer games out there? Imo good devs make good net code and no lag, bad devs make bad net code and lots of lag. The difference between dedicated and P2P is nothing if the dev's are up to scratch. I've had more lag in a single game running off EA's FIFA servers than i've experienced collectively in some P2P games.

For X1's servers doesn't it also depend on how close you are to the data centre? They seem to have something like 10 large centres but i think my nearest one would generate a ping over 100ms which is nowhere near good enough for gaming.

Not a problem for me. I rarely ever have lag in KZ games. In fact, I have way more lag playing BF3 on dedicated servers than I've had in any KZ games.

If the servers are anything like Killzone 2, 3 then there will be no problems. You wouldn't even think you were playing online with how smooth the game ran. Can't wait for this game btw. The gameplay looks exactly like Far Cry 3 which, IMO, has the best gameplay mechanics of any FPS ever thus far. Add on top of that the incredible customisation (basically mods) free maps, multiplayer and map design of Killzone 2. FPS GOTY for sure. WAAAAYYYY Better than TitanFall.

@tdkmillsy: 100's on screen? Welcome to 2007, Heavenly Sword

Infamous SS is running at the same resolution and frame rate, and it's silky smooth as well. Both games will be incredibly fun to play, that's for sure.

Funny MS has charge for 11 years and P2P is what mostly you people have get.

lmao

Can anyone enlighten me to how dedicated servers will benefit the game?

Lower ping / less lag / smoother gameplay

No problems when whoever is hosting decides to leave

Both uncharteds were p2p, and no not one of the lowest latency multiplayer games out there lmao

Its just amazing how small the FOV is to achieve 60/1080.