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#1 megaspiderweb09
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As the introduction to game goes Shadow Marshalls are "tasked with maintaining the delicate balance."

(do they keep the peace eliminating the most radical groups on both sides?)

As we know from KZ1 they wore Helghan outfits on covet missions, it is more than likely that there will be play as "Helghan" 

 

Interesting setting, this Vektan Wall is.


Are these indications that we would eventually get to witness the situation from both sides of the conflict?

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#2 R3FURBISHED
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I'm game for GG to attempt to make a decent story, show us that the Helghan isn't just a marauding horde.
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#3 -RocBoys9489-
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Killzone; Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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#4 LittleMac19
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But it's just Killzone.
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#5 silversix_
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sorry i felt asleep
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#6 kweeni
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Awesome if true, always wanted a Helghast campaign. Hope they won't screw it up if they add it in.
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#7 StrongDeadlift
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As we know from KZ1 

megaspiderweb09

No.  We dont know anything from KZ1.  

That would imply that someone actually played it, or cared. :|

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#8 I_can_haz
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Awesome if they do it. GG, make it happen :cool:
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#9 RR360DD
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Copying Halo 2 with the arbitor I see :cool:
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#10 forte23
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Probably true. These screenshots look amazing.
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#11 hexashadow13
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! That seemed to be the main request that I heard from fans when they showed the SF trailer. I would be very happy if this is true.
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#12 megaspiderweb09
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[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

As we know from KZ1 

StrongDeadlift

No.  We dont know anything from KZ1.  

That would imply that someone actually played it, or cared. :|

You would be suprised actually

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#13 Zeviander
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The first Killzone game I'm actually interested in playing. Can't wait for a Gears of War that features a Locust campaign.
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#14 Zeviander
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That would imply that someone actually played it, or cared. :|StrongDeadlift
I played about half of it, but the horrible checkpoints finally killed my interest and patience for the game. It's one of those series that could use more arcadey speed and less gritty atmopshere and be really freaking good.
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#15 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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And suddenly the game gets really interesting...

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#16 Ballroompirate
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Fracking better play as Helghast finally

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#17 Nengo_Flow
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I never understood why people cried about playing as the Helghast, at the end of the day you are only seeing the gun and hands on the screen.

When you play KZ2/3 online its the same thing whether you are on the ISA or Helghast.

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#18 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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These shots were leaked when the trailer was first shown. Thought everyone knew this already :?

But I do like that they're doing it

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#19 Nengo_Flow
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But it's just Killzone.LittleMac19
which is why its good.
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#20 finalstar2007
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Have i ever mentioned how colorful this game looks? im seriously getting itnerested by how amazing it looks, remind me of Final Fantasy

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#21 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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I never understood why people cried about playing as the Helghast, at the end of the day you are only seeing the gun and hands on the screen.

When you play KZ2/3 online its the same thing whether you are on the ISA or Helghast.

Nengo_Flow

It has more to do with story purposes. The fact we'll play as Helghast may add a level of personality to the Helghast other than some "mindless" followers of a dictatorship. If you had played Killzone 1 you would know that the Helghast are, in fact, human beings suffering from a strange desease that difficults their breathing. Finally we may "see" the other side perspective on the war. Just hope GG does it right this time around

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#22 Nengo_Flow
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Have i ever mentioned how colorful this game looks? im seriously getting itnerested by how amazing it looks, remind me of Final Fantasy

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I can expect a comment like that from you.
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Have i ever mentioned how colorful this game looks? im seriously getting itnerested by how amazing it looks, remind me of Final Fantasy

Nengo_Flow

I can expect a comment like that from you.

well, the city actually had a FF vibe to it

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#24 Nengo_Flow
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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]

I never understood why people cried about playing as the Helghast, at the end of the day you are only seeing the gun and hands on the screen.

When you play KZ2/3 online its the same thing whether you are on the ISA or Helghast.

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It has more to do with story purposes. The fact we'll play as Helghast may add a level of personality to the Helghast other than some "mindless" followers of a dictatorship. If you had played Killzone 1 you would know that the Helghast are, in fact, human beings suffering from a strange desease that difficults their breathing. Finally we may "see" the other side perspective on the war. Just hope GG does it right this time around

Its just an FPS game with a ok story. There isnt much GG can do to make the story interesting, unless they get help from Naughty Dog or something. I dont really care what I play as tho, I like the KZ universe and KZ:SF looks very interesting with its new setting.
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#25 hexashadow13
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I never understood why people cried about playing as the Helghast, at the end of the day you are only seeing the gun and hands on the screen.

When you play KZ2/3 online its the same thing whether you are on the ISA or Helghast.

Nengo_Flow
One of the biggest problems across games that people had with KZ's story was that despite the Helghast having a rich lore and history, they were mostly (yes with a couple exceptions) just portrayed as evil space Nazis in the games. Being able to play as them would be the easiest way to dive into their side of the story. And being able to play the exact same conflict from two sides offers amazing potential from a story telling point of view.
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#26 Zeviander
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I never understood why people cried about playing as the Helghast, at the end of the day you are only seeing the gun and hands on the screen.Nengo_Flow
There are more possibilities for interesting characters other than single-dimensional racial stereotypes.
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#27 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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Can't believe i'm saying this but I might actually get this.

Killzone has been sooo bad but it seems they're really trying here and starting fresh, we'll see.

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#28 hexashadow13
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Complete history in case anyone wants to read it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=517012 The Helghast are actually pretty deep.
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#29 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I never understood why people cried about playing as the Helghast, at the end of the day you are only seeing the gun and hands on the screen.

When you play KZ2/3 online its the same thing whether you are on the ISA or Helghast.

Nengo_Flow

Then you clearly don't get it

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#30 DrTrafalgarLaw
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

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#31 no-scope-AK47
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Seems like it might actually have a good story possible megaton Lord Kaz great job.

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#32 jun_aka_pekto
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Sweeeeet. I hope GG goes through with a Helghast campaign. For some reason, I've always liked using the Helghast weapons in SP.  

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#33 Heil68
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That would be cool I guess.
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#34 Zeviander
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]Complete history in case anyone wants to read it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=517012 The Helghast are actually pretty deep.

And this is why I want to see a Helghast-centric game. I find it funny how the protagonists of the entire series have actually been the bad guys the whole time. Almost exactly like the Locust planet being invaded by humans.
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Complete history in case anyone wants to read it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=517012 The Helghast are actually pretty deep.hexashadow13

I love this.

Killzones lore is actually pretty damn good, a lot of people tend to overlook it, I'd love to play as the Helghast.

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I'm game for GG to attempt to make a decent story, show us that the Helghan isn't just a marauding horde.R3FURBISHED
Exactly. We have been asking this since at least KZ2. For some reason the audience seems to feel empathy for the Helghast. Why not exploit that>?
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#37 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="hexashadow13"]Complete history in case anyone wants to read it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=517012 The Helghast are actually pretty deep.

And this is why I want to see a Helghast-centric game. I find it funny how the protagonists of the entire series have actually been the bad guys the whole time. Almost exactly like the Locust planet being invaded by humans.

They're both bad guys depending on the situation. Ultimately I guess it just depends on who's situations you sympathize with more. Basically it's just not as black and white as GG keep trying to make it for some reason.
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#38 campzor
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those are very cool pics. I wouldnt want to play as a helghast to be honest... cause all i would be shooting is generic isa (or are they different in this game?) soldiers. I have no doubt that we will visit both sides of the wall though.
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#39 Zeviander
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They're both bad guys depending on the situation. Ultimately I guess it just depends on who's situations you sympathize with more. Basically it's just not as black and white as GG keep trying to make it for some reason.hexashadow13
Well, up until Visari takes over, it's a pretty one-sided affair. He is just the catalyst that unites the Helghans against the ISA. And I really don't get the claim that the Helghast are a "dictatorship". The imagery certainly has the Nazi vibe to it, but it's mostly just a group of people united under a cult of personality. Then again, I haven't played the second and third games (or the first to completion for that matter), so I could be wrong.
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#40 clr84651
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Copying Halo 2 with the arbitor I see :cool:RR360DD

Everything gets turned into something negative unless it's about xbox with you or you make it about xbox. :roll:

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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

As we know from KZ1 

megaspiderweb09

No.  We dont know anything from KZ1.  

That would imply that someone actually played it, or cared. :|

You would be suprised actually

dont bother with the delusional lem :roll:

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]They're both bad guys depending on the situation. Ultimately I guess it just depends on who's situations you sympathize with more. Basically it's just not as black and white as GG keep trying to make it for some reason.Zeviander
Well, up until Visari takes over, it's a pretty one-sided affair. He is just the catalyst that unites the Helghans against the ISA. And I really don't get the claim that the Helghast are a "dictatorship". The imagery certainly has the Nazi vibe to it, but it's mostly just a group of people united under a cult of personality. Then again, I haven't played the second and third games (or the first to completion for that matter), so I could be wrong.

Helghast leadership pushed the bounds and voided agreements for the sake of money, which was the impetus for the atrocities committed on them. They started a good amount of conflicts and got destroyed brutally. Somewhat similar to the situation with Palestine/Israel I would say. Both sides were in the wrong. After Visari, both are definitely bad guys. I won't spoil it, but even if you read the entire link I sent you that should be obvious.
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#43 finalfantasy94
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I'm game for GG to attempt to make a decent story, show us that the Helghan isn't just a marauding horde.R3FURBISHED

Well they showed that 1 character from KZ1 who was half helghan and he didint seem to have hte urge to kill. Heck the fact hes half helghan and non helghan should show that not all of them are crazed for murder. To bad GG doesint have the chops to tell this in story form.

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#44 Zeviander
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Interesting setting, this Vektan Wall is.megaspiderweb09
Heh, playing off the Berlin Wall. Ironically, the Helghast have very Eastern-European names. Makes you wonder if they planned this all along (or at the very least are playing certain elements off of ones they have already established).
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#45 Zeviander
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]Helghast leadership pushed the bounds and voided agreements for the sake of money, which was the impetus for the atrocities committed on them. They started a good amount of conflicts and got destroyed brutally. Somewhat similar to the situation with Palestine/Israel I would say. Both sides were in the wrong. After Visari, both are definitely bad guys. I won't spoil it, but even if you read the entire link I sent you that should be obvious.

I did read the whole thing, but I still don't think the Helghast are "bad guys" per se. Certainly, they are not saints (as there are no "good guys" in war), but they are merely reacting to the pressure put on them by the ISA. Ever since the Helghan corporation began separating itself from the unified Earth conglomerate for it's own profits and benefit (which isn't a negative thing), the UCN/ISA have been out to destroy them at any and all cost (including using nuclear weaponry, something that originally pushed humans to colonize other worlds). Either way, a Helghast-centered game that actually tells the story from their perspective would be incredible. It's unfortunate that I doubt the developer could actually handle that kind of writing/story-telling, from what I have played of the first game and heard of the subsequent releases. Weird, considering they put such great detail into the timeline and lore of their world.
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Halo already did it. Who cares about space Nazis anyways?
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]Complete history in case anyone wants to read it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=517012 The Helghast are actually pretty deep.Zeviander
And this is why I want to see a Helghast-centric game. I find it funny how the protagonists of the entire series have actually been the bad guys the whole time. Almost exactly like the Locust planet being invaded by humans.

Yeah, I always found it funny in the KZ games how they portray the normal dudes as the good guys. When you actually fvcked over all the Helghast and want nothing more to do with them

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Hope its not something cliche and dumb. I don't want to play a helgast that ends up switching to ISA because he was on the "wrong" side.

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#49 hexashadow13
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Hope its not something cliche and dumb. I don't want to play a helgast that ends up switching to ISA because he was on the "wrong" side.

JangoWuzHere
That would be annoying. If the opposite happened, I can see them making it quite well though.