Killzone to use RayTracing

I guess the cell does come in handy

can you say future graphics king confirmed? :D

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34201.html

for people who don't know what raytracing is:

Definitions of Ray Tracing

"A >rendering technique, based on complex mathematical algorithms, to accurately represent any conceivable representation of light"

For those who don't know

Ray tracing is an over-rated lighting method often misconcepted by fanboys who don't really understand the tech to exaggerate the processing power of the supported hardware.

For those who don't know

Ray tracing is an over-rated lighting method often misconcepted by fanboys who don't really understand the tech to exaggerate the processing power of the supported hardware.

Blue-Sky

Watch the video and tell me its an "over-rated lighting method"

the lighting is possible the best iv ever seen on a consols

[QUOTE="xchiefmegadethx"]Wow i better buy a ps3 then! NOT!!!!Scott_1990

shut up you tit.

lmfao my words exactly :lol:

I don't see anything that mentions ray tracing, which I still don't understand lol.Chutebox

Its basically a different method of creating lighting and it relies heavily on the CPU

I don't see anything that mentions ray tracing, which I still don't understand lol.Chutebox

That vid is bit old but the game looks incredible.

Awesome

Nonsence

It requires like 5 QuadCORE computers connected together to render like 15 fps in full resoultion realtime raytracing on older games

Watch the video and tell me its an "over-rated lighting method"

the lighting is possible the best iv ever seen on a consols

micky4889

I am really on the edge to insult you,but you obviously dont know what raytracing is or how difficult it is to be rendered realtime

Gameplay vid was impressive.

Definite future graphics king.

Nonsence

It requires like 5 QuadCORE computers connected together to render like 15 fps in full resoultion realtime raytracing on older games

Lidve

The amount of ray tracing thats used can vary. Killzone is using minute degrees. Why is that so diffcult for you to believe?

Nonsence

It requires like 5 QuadCORE computers connected together to render like 15 fps in full resoultion realtime raytracing on older games

Lidve

Obviously its not full raytracing but you got to admit the lighting is probably the best on consoles to date imo

Obviously its not full raytracing but you got to admit the lighting is probably the best on consoles to date imomicky4889

Its not raytracing and light is cheap it just looks attractive its nowhere near what real light should behave

"On June 12, 2008 Intel demonstrated Enemy Territory: Quake Wars running in basic HD (720p) resolution, which is the first time the company was able to render the game using a standard video resolution, instead of 1024 x 1024 or 512 x 512 pixels. ETQW operated at 14-29 frames per second. The demonstration ran on a 16-core (4 socket, 4 core) Tigerton system running at 2.93 GHz"

[QUOTE="micky4889"]Obviously its not full raytracing but you got to admit the lighting is probably the best on consoles to date imoLidve

Its not raytracing and light is cheap it just looks attractive its nowhere near what real light should behave

"On June 12, 2008 Intel demonstrated Enemy Territory: Quake Warsrunning in basic HD (720p) resolution, which is the first time the company was able to render the game using a standard video resolution, instead of 1024 x 1024 or 512 x 512 pixels. ETQW operated at 14-29 frames per second.The demonstration ran on a 16-core (4 socket, 4 core) Tigerton system running at 2.93 GHz"

Ya i guess you should know since your the one making killzone 2 :roll:

Its not raytracing and light is cheap it just looks attractive its nowhere near what real light should behave

"On June 12, 2008 Intel demonstrated Enemy Territory: Quake Wars running in basic HD (720p) resolution, which is the first time the company was able to render the game using a standard video resolution, instead of 1024 x 1024 or 512 x 512 pixels. ETQW operated at 14-29 frames per second. The demonstration ran on a 16-core (4 socket, 4 core) Tigerton system running at 2.93 GHz"

Lidve

You're being terribly evasive.

Guerilla has already pointed out that the amount of ray-tracing is extremely small and you've done nothing to actually disprove what he said.

Plus, the lighting was good. A generalization from you is not going to change that.

Quake 4 raytraced

This is how raytracing looks like not some cheap "lens flare" + "rays of light" effects

this vid is great.... visually its amazing for a console game.... guess with Resistance2 & KZ2, FPS fans will be happy with their PS3... (considering some amazing multi-plats coming out also)

Too bad KZ2 wont be released before Feb 2009 :(

Nonsence

It requires like 5 QuadCORE computers connected together to render like 15 fps in full resoultion realtime raytracing on older games

Lidve

Too bad for that the PS3 is king!!!

Ya i guess you should know since your the one making killzone 2 :roll:micky4889

Yes you are right im wrong now go watch more hype videos

Quake 4 raytraced

This is how raytracing looks like not some cheap "lens flare" + "rays of light" effects

Lidve

Yep Killzone 2 will easily do raytracing. The Cell is amazing when the developers know how to work it.

[QUOTE="Lidve"]

Nonsence

It requires like 5 QuadCORE computers connected together to render like 15 fps in full resoultion realtime raytracing on older games

nVidiaGaMer

Too bad for that the PS3 is king!!!

lol? You do realise that single of those computers is 3 times more powerfull than all consoles combined?

^

You're being terribly evasive.

Guerilla has already pointed out that the amount of ray-tracing is extremely small and you've done nothing to actually disprove what he said.

Plus, the lighting was good. A generalization from you is not going to change that.

Pariah_001

Yep Killzone 2 will easily do raytracing. The Cell is amazing when the developers know how to work it. nVidiaGaMer

Yes you are right im wrong now go play your outdated "allmighty cell" that was outdated even before it was released

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]Yep Killzone 2 will easily do raytracing. The Cell is amazing when the developers know how to work it. Lidve

Yes you are right im wrong now go play your outdated "allmighty cell" that was outdated even before it was released

mmmm.. The hate for PS3 is strong in this one.....

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]Yep Killzone 2 will easily do raytracing. The Cell is amazing when the developers know how to work it. Lidve

Yes you are right im wrong now go play your outdated "allmighty cell" that was outdated even before it was released

I can tell you are against the PS3. The cell is way more powerful then you think and Killzone 2 can do raytracing try that on your PC. :lol:

mmmm.. The hate for PS3 is strong in this one.....

Malta_1980

If i say that Cell is outdated that is hate? I dont think so,im just speaking facts

Mybe you should watch some educational videos like this one (3 ps3's connected) to render simple scenes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLte5f34ya8&eurl=http://www.messageboardchampion.com/?p=15

How old are you guys? 12? Do you still belive in santa? :roll:

Some things are IMPOSSIBLE to do on todays technology,raytracing is one of them

I can tell you are against the PS3. The cell is way more powerful then you think and Killzone 2 can do raytracing try that on your PC. :lol: nVidiaGaMer

You just make yourself look stupid and you are not even funny if you are trying to be sarcastic

2007

[QUOTE="xchiefmegadethx"]Wow i better buy a ps3 then! NOT!!!!Scott_1990

shut up you tit.

whoa, and I thought I had seen it all

@Lidve

the devs said they are using a tiny amount of it. you are blowing it out of proportation and acting as if they said the whole game is rendered with ray-tracing.

jesus-christ just get over it already.

you hate the ps3? good for you

you cant take it that the devs said the game uses a small amount of ray tracing? good for you

you seem to think you know more than the actual devs themselves and think they are lying? good for you

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]mmmm.. The hate for PS3 is strong in this one.....

Lidve

If i say that Cell is outdated that is hate? I dont think so,im just speaking facts

Mybe you should watch some educational videos like this one (3 ps3's connected) to render simple scenes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLte5f34ya8&eurl=http://www.messageboardchampion.com/?p=15

How old are you guys? 12? Do you still belive in santa? :roll:

Some things are IMPOSSIBLE to do on todays technology,raytracing is one of them

There are different ways how to explain things... surely ray-tracing requires alot of processing power which todays technology has a hard time doing, with consoles its even worse... i am agreeing with you... problem is you have a 12 year old way of posting these facts (consoles cannot do 100% ray-tracing throughout a whole game), which is filled with unecessary hatred comments on PS3...

You can just post your opinion in a mature way and include links etc etc, making you believable to PS3 fans, because you are being objective that KZ2 looks good for a console game but ray-tracing is something that PS3 hardware is not capable to truly render in games.. (referring to full ray-tracing)

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="Lidve"]

Nonsence

It requires like 5 QuadCORE computers connected together to render like 15 fps in full resoultion realtime raytracing on older games

Lidve

Too bad for that the PS3 is king!!!

lol? You do realise that single of those computers is 3 times more powerfull than all consoles combined?

You do realise that the computer you were trying to prove me wrong with was using full raytracing? whats to say the ps3 cant handle 10% raytracing?

all i know is the devs who made the game says it can do some raytracing

compaired to a stranger on the Internet who thinks he's a teck wizz

so who do you think i should believe?

Games devoleped by

Lidve = 0

Games devoleped by Guerilla = 3

@Lidve

the devs said they are using a tiny amount of it. you are blowing it out of proportation and acting as if they said the whole game is rendered with ray-tracing. Why would they use "small amount" when there is bether way of doing things - and less "expencive"?

jesus-christ just get over it already.

you hate the ps3? good for you Where did i say that i hate PS3? I love all platforms

you cant take it that the devs said the game uses a small amount of ray tracing? good for you

My mum also said that if i be good boy and trust everything i hear i will get biscuit :roll:

you seem to think you know more than the actual devs themselves and think they are lying? good for you

Grand Chase is refered as MMO but its VERRY FAR from MMO - you still belive devs? good for you

superjim42

Answers are in green

You do realise that the computer you were trying to prove me wrong with was using full raytracing? whats to say the ps3 cant handle 10% raytracing? No,because it wasnt SINGLE computer,it was like 5+ computers connected

all i know is the devs who made the game says it can do some raytracing Yes,devs of Grand Chase said its MMO but its not

compaired to a stranger on the Internet who thinks he's a teck wizz At least i know about technology and some stuff,you dont know nothing you just bgelive what someone says. I use my brain

so who do you think i should believe?

I dont care,i just know whats true and whats not

Games devoleped by

Lidve = 0

Actualy i developed many games,but they are not comercial quality

Games devoleped by Guerilla = 3

Flops by Guerilla = 3

Green again

There are different ways how to explain things... surely ray-tracing requires alot of processing power which todays technology has a hard time doing, with consoles its even worse... i am agreeing with you... problem is you have a 12 year old way of posting these facts (consoles cannot do 100% ray-tracing throughout a whole game), which is filled with unecessary hatred comments on PS3...

You can just post your opinion in a mature way and include links etc etc, making you believable to PS3 fans, because you are being objective that KZ2 looks good for a console game but ray-tracing is something that PS3 hardware is not capable to truly render in games.. (referring to full ray-tracing)

Malta_1980

I started nice? But obviously to explain something to monkey,you must become monkey yourself

[QUOTE="superjim42"]

@Lidve

the devs said they are using a tiny amount of it. you are blowing it out of proportation and acting as if they said the whole game is rendered with ray-tracing. Why would they use "small amount" when there is bether way of doing things - and less "expencive"?why wouldnt they use it? if it is regarded as the best light rendering technique? expensive? thats the reason they are using small amounts of it duhhh

jesus-christ just get over it already.

you hate the ps3? good for you Where did i say that i hate PS3? I love all platforms many threads you have proven this already

you cant take it that the devs said the game uses a small amount of ray tracing? good for you

My mum also said that if i be good boy and trust everything i hear i will get biscuit :roll: your mommy is not a developer of games :roll:

you seem to think you know more than the actual devs themselves and think they are lying? good for you

Grand Chase is refered as MMO but its VERRY FAR from MMO - you still belive devs? good for you so cos one dev lied all devs are liars...wow great logic their einstein

Lidve

Answers are in green

Answers are in blue

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]There are different ways how to explain things... surely ray-tracing requires alot of processing power which todays technology has a hard time doing, with consoles its even worse... i am agreeing with you... problem is you have a 12 year old way of posting these facts (consoles cannot do 100% ray-tracing throughout a whole game), which is filled with unecessary hatred comments on PS3...

You can just post your opinion in a mature way and include links etc etc, making you believable to PS3 fans, because you are being objective that KZ2 looks good for a console game but ray-tracing is something that PS3 hardware is not capable to truly render in games.. (referring to full ray-tracing)

Lidve

I started nice? But obviously to explain something to monkey,you must become monkey yourself

well just dont give up, do realise that there are not only fanboys in here.... some have more than 1 system... personally KZ2 is one of my most anticipated titles but i wont go as far as stating KZ2 will be an excellent game or the best looking game on consoles... i usually prefare waiting till the game is released and i actually play it before passing judgements..

Dont get me wrong I do agree with what you are stating regarding ray-tracing, i just criticised the way you are trying to explain it to other posters who probably are not much technical.. (including myself)

[QUOTE="Lidve"][QUOTE="superjim42"]

@Lidve

the devs said they are using a tiny amount of it. you are blowing it out of proportation and acting as if they said the whole game is rendered with ray-tracing. Why would they use "small amount" when there is bether way of doing things - and less "expencive"?why wouldnt they use it? if it is regarded as the best light rendering technique? expensive? thats the reason they are using small amounts of it duhhh BECAUSE RAYTRACING IS NOT USEFULL AT THIS POINT. ITS NOT just "LIGHT RENDERING" its more like "HOW LIGHT BOUNCES" so if you dont want to use ADVANCED REFLECTIONS and SUCH - than its STUPID to use raytracing - read with me RAY T R A C I N G why would you TRACE light if you dont need it to be reflected on something???

You have bether solutions to do that that are not using much power which you could use for something else

jesus-christ just get over it already.

you hate the ps3? good for you Where did i say that i hate PS3? I love all platforms many threads you have proven this already

No,actualy im big fan of PS3,i just hate when ppl refer to it "omg second coming of jesus"

you cant take it that the devs said the game uses a small amount of ray tracing? good for you

My mum also said that if i be good boy and trust everything i hear i will get biscuit :roll: your mommy is not a developer of games :roll: Says who? And if she dont develop,i DO and i know at least a little what im talking about - you just heard "omg dev said that it must be true"

you seem to think you know more than the actual devs themselves and think they are lying? good for you

Grand Chase is refered as MMO but its VERRY FAR from MMO - you still belive devs? good for you so cos one dev lied all devs are liars...wow great logic their einstein

Actualy thats just example,i have maaaaaanyyy more lies including SONY

superjim42

Answers are in green

Answers are in blue

MY ANSWERS ARE IN ORANGE

well just dont give up, do realise that there are not only fanboys in here.... some have more than 1 system... personally KZ2 is one of my most anticipated titles but i wont go as far as stating KZ2 will be an excellent game or the best looking game on consoles... i usually prefare waiting till the game is released and i actually play it before passing judgements..

Dont get me wrong I do agree with what you are stating regarding ray-tracing, i just criticised the way you are trying to explain it to other posters who probably are not much technical.. (including myself)

Malta_1980

I am really sorry,sometimes i forgot that there are "non-fanboy" people on these boards

Sry again