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#1 Coredog777
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So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

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So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

Coredog777

Which "signs" are you referring to?

And KZ2 is coming in Feb 2009 not November.

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[QUOTE="Coredog777"]

So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

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Which "signs" are you referring to?

And KZ2 is coming in Feb 2009 not November.

Kojima saying he thought the PS3 could do more and is dissapointed it couldnt be what he thought it could be, MGS4 online is nothing crazy, so those are two, also previous MGS were AA. Ok Feb 2009, still not 2008. That is pathetic.

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I strongly disagree at the MGO beta being a dissapointment. I haven't had so much fun with an online game since Halo 3. GT5P got a 7.5 which isn't that bad and the final game wil likely score an 8.0 - 8.5, again, not bad. Haze isn't a great game, but it's certainly not a bad game either. And as for Killzone 2 being delayed - would you rather they release a buggy unfinished game or delay it until it's ready?
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

Coredog777

Which "signs" are you referring to?

And KZ2 is coming in Feb 2009 not November.

Kojima saying he thought the PS3 could do more and is dissapointed it couldnt be what he thought it could be, MGS4 online is nothing crazy, so those are two, also previous MGS were AA. Ok Feb 2009, still not 2008. That is pathetic.

Gamespot scores doesn't determine a game's quality, but one single man's perspective of that game.

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#6 Coredog777
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I strongly disagree at the MGO beta being a dissapointment. I haven't had so much fun with an online game since Halo 3. GT5P got a 7.5 which isn't that bad and the final game wil likely score an 8.0 - 8.5, again, not bad. Haze isn't a great game, but it's certainly not a bad game either. And as for Killzone 2 being delayed - would you rather they release a buggy unfinished game or delay it until it's ready?SSJ_Nega

again not what i thought i was getting in 2008 from the powerhouse SONY.

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The last two you listed are your opinons, nothing more. KZ 2 Delay is a bummer, but not a big deal really. More time means better quality. GT5 P got Good scores.

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This thread is a serious course for 'lulz'

1. Killzone 2 - according to you Lemming chaps the game sucks

2. GT5: Prologue - who hyped it as anything serious? Honestly, put your hands up.

3. Metal Gear Online - it was AWESOME! Don't just believe me, believe the reviews for MGS3: Subsistence and MGS: PO, multiplayer was commented as a strength in these games. Metal Gear Online is this refined to a nail!

4. Haze - the demo was good, not great but good. I'm expecting 8.0-8.5 at best. Possibly 7.5, but the gunplay was solid, the controls felt tight and the feel of the game just feels right graphically. Not technical masterpiece, but not too terrible.

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So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

Coredog777

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"the ps3 over took Europe and is closing the gap between the 360 in overall salesand is giving good comp against the 360 in it's home country (N.A). Resistance 2 is looking to promising as well as motorstorm 2, while the only really promising games that have a 08 release date for the 360 is Gears 2, NG2, and Fable 2, and if motorstorm 2 do make it's initial release date, then that will mean that the ps3 will have 3 major hitters to come out as well as the 360, but only to have 1 game out of the 3 to have a mass market appeal which is gears, while all the ps3 3 big hitters will definitely (if motorstorm can make the date) will have a huge market appeal and alot better of a market appeal than NG2 or Fable 2. I want me a ps3 so bad, but can't afford one"

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#10 SpruceCaboose
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Lets wait for the year to be out before we go crowning "winners", shall we?
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LOL bashing MGS4 online.......lol Yeah because MGS is only known for it's online play right? When MGS4 scores AAA you better come into the Official thread and apologize!
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Wow the hate on the PS3 is starting to pick up...

What Ill like to know is what has MS released this year to compete with GT5P, MLB 08, and Echochrome? Actually what the heck have they released this year? MGS4 is out next month which will just completely overshadow NG2...Im sorry but the PS3 has had a pretty good start and will most likely finish strong with LBP, Socom, and R2.

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#13 Coredog777
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Lets wait for the year to be out before we go crowning "winners", shall we?SpruceCaboose

I agree but that wasnt the case before 2008 with COWS.

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#14 Coredog777
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LOL bashing MGS4 online.......lol Yeah because MGS is only known for it's online play right? When MGS4 scores AAA you better come into the Official thread and apologize!ragrdoll21

Lets hope to god it is the FIRST AAAE for the PS3, and if it isnt? What excuse will we hear?

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i like haze just because you dont does not mean its bad for every one else
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I don't know what you are talking about in reference to MGO. It has been a blast so far, and I'm not only a PS3 gamer, I primarily play online on PC and 360 so don't get it twisted. Your claims about the other things are valid though imo. However, I don't see how those things will hurt Sony this year because they don't need Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 to come out at the same time, Prologue was nothing more than a demo, and nobody thought Haze would be better than mediocre. I don't think the PS3 will have a better year than the PC or 360 when it comes to quality games, but this year will be a big step in the right direction and sales will continue to improve without any big titles other than MGS4 and Resistance 2 coming out.
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This thread is a serious course for 'lulz'

1. Killzone 2 - according to you Lemming chaps the game sucks

2. GT5: Prologue - who hyped it as anything serious? Honestly, put your hands up.

3. Metal Gear Online - it was AWESOME! Don't just believe me, believe the reviews for MGS3: Subsistence and MGS: PO, multiplayer was commented as a strength in these games. Metal Gear Online is this refined to a nail!

4. Haze - the demo was good, not great but good. I'm expecting 8.0-8.5 at best. Possibly 7.5, but the gunplay was solid, the controls felt tight and the feel of the game just feels right graphically. Not technical masterpiece, but not too terrible.

Pietrooper

Very well put there. I played the HAZE demo as well and it actually went above my expectations. People kept saying how HAZE will flop. I thought it was better than assasins creed and ut3 and they both got higher scores. Online co op works very well. Its just a fun game. Already preordered. IDK why people want to bring down a good new ip thats been brought down to the table. Ya i understand after playing GTA 4 this game seemed rather bland. But thats how its going to be from now on so just get used to it.

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#18 ermacness
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

Coredog777

Which "signs" are you referring to?

And KZ2 is coming in Feb 2009 not November.

Kojima saying he thought the PS3 could do more and is dissapointed it couldnt be what he thought it could be, MGS4 online is nothing crazy, so those are two, also previous MGS were AA. Ok Feb 2009, still not 2008. That is pathetic.

so what does that say for the 360? Also, the only MGS that was direct chapters to the story and not some spin-off/remake that received AA scores was MGS3. MGS4 will set standard in the stealth genre for sure. That's probably why Ubisoft bailed out on the stealth approach foe Splinter Cell and went for the more free-roam, Assassins creed approach because they felt that they couldn't beat or hang with MGS in the stealth genre

by the way, didn't fable get AA scores here at gamespot as well?

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#19 h575309
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the beginning of this year was a pure drought bc well, everything was released last fall/winter. id have to say everyone is pretty much even thus far this yr since wii owners got ssbb and ps3/360 owners got gta4. i still think mgs4 and lbp are reasons enough to pick up a ps3. (even though at the end of the day i will prefer the 360s lineup of geow2, ng2 and too human).
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[QUOTE="Coredog777"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

ermacness

Which "signs" are you referring to?

And KZ2 is coming in Feb 2009 not November.

Kojima saying he thought the PS3 could do more and is dissapointed it couldnt be what he thought it could be, MGS4 online is nothing crazy, so those are two, also previous MGS were AA. Ok Feb 2009, still not 2008. That is pathetic.

so what does that say for the 360? Also, the only MGS that was direst chapters to the story and not some spin-off/remake that received AA scores was MGS3. MGS4 will set standard in the stealth genre for sure. That's probably why Ubisoft bailed out on the stealth approach foe Splinter Cell and went for the more free-roam, Assassins creed approach because they felt that they couldn't beat or hang with MGS in the stealth genre

by the way, didn't fable get AA scores here at gamespot as well?

Does the PS3 have ONE AAAE? The 360 has what 6? I mean come on now. Stop with the excuses.

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[QUOTE="Coredog777"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

ermacness

Which "signs" are you referring to?

And KZ2 is coming in Feb 2009 not November.

Kojima saying he thought the PS3 could do more and is dissapointed it couldnt be what he thought it could be, MGS4 online is nothing crazy, so those are two, also previous MGS were AA. Ok Feb 2009, still not 2008. That is pathetic.

so what does that say for the 360? Also, the only MGS that was direst chapters to the story and not some spin-off/remake that received AA scores was MGS3. MGS4 will set standard in the stealth genre for sure. That's probably why Ubisoft bailed out on the stealth approach foe Splinter Cell and went for the more free-roam, Assassins creed approach because they felt that they couldn't beat or hang with MGS in the stealth genre

by the way, didn't fable get AA scores here at gamespot as well?

Does the PS3 have ONE AAAE? The 360 has what 6? I mean come on now. Stop with the excuses.

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#22 ermacness
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Wow the hate on the PS3 is starting to pick up...

What Ill like to know is what has MS released this year to compete with GT5P, MLB 08, and Echochrome? Actually what the heck have they released this year? MGS4 is out next month which will just completely overshadow NG2...Im sorry but the PS3 has had a pretty good start and will most likely finish strong with LBP, Socom, and R2.

xTHExJUICEx

i like to call it:

"fear"8)

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CAPS. SRS BIZNESS.

Killzone being delayed is a good thing, providing the history the series has but at least now they'll be able to make sure it's actually playable -- which judging by the lastest videos seems to already be happening. Personally, I think Too Human looks like garbage but the game got delayed and now has a stable framerate and graphically is looking a lot better. DO YOU SEE? Rolz.

GT5 Prologue got 7.5 because it's the prologue to the actual game. It's incomplete. Lacking plenty of features, polish and content from cars to tracks. Good for them to test out the online platform with this though, hopefully online for the full game will be improved. Hopefully.

MGS4 Online is amazing. But an aquired taste, just like MGS3 online. Not everyone is going to enjoy it, besides everyone is buying MGS4 to complete the amazing saga's story. No to teabag nubz. Btw, he was disappointed because he couldn't create the type of living and destructible world that he wanted while still maintaing the visuals that were present in the first trailer. It's not the PS3, it's the him -- he sets the bar too high, he even said he was disappointed over MGS2 *Cough9.6*... Excuse me.

And Haze.

Has always been trash. I gave it the benefit of the doubt at first because it's from Free Radical, the guys behind TS but I knew before even playing the demo it would be horrid. And it is.

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#24 killerkane246
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[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Coredog777"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

Coredog777

Which "signs" are you referring to?

And KZ2 is coming in Feb 2009 not November.

Kojima saying he thought the PS3 could do more and is dissapointed it couldnt be what he thought it could be, MGS4 online is nothing crazy, so those are two, also previous MGS were AA. Ok Feb 2009, still not 2008. That is pathetic.

so what does that say for the 360? Also, the only MGS that was direst chapters to the story and not some spin-off/remake that received AA scores was MGS3. MGS4 will set standard in the stealth genre for sure. That's probably why Ubisoft bailed out on the stealth approach foe Splinter Cell and went for the more free-roam, Assassins creed approach because they felt that they couldn't beat or hang with MGS in the stealth genre

by the way, didn't fable get AA scores here at gamespot as well?

Does the PS3 have ONE AAAE? The 360 has what 6? I mean come on now. Stop with the excuses.

Ya in its third year. This is PS3s second year. By the end of this year it should have plenty of titles. Do the math.

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Personaly I could care less I still like my PS3 at least it won't red ring before Resident Evil 5 gets here.
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#26 Pietrooper
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Does the PS3 have ONE AAAE? The 360 has what 6? I mean come on now. Stop with the excuses.

Coredog777

Out of a total random curiousity, how does a console actually affect the quality of a game when it's how a developer designs a game to fit the platform.

And by the way, he's disappointed because he wanted to create a game based on the early claims of 4D, 1080p dual output etc but...they were pushed to the wayside and scaled back. Doesn't mean it's bad by the way, it's like saying if Gears of War was designed to look life like and scaled back in order to fit on the X360 it's bad. Also, the gameplay elements and story elements he stated are all present within the game, the only thing he said he was disapointed was the fact that he wanted to have much bigger battlefields, he also wanted to have much more affects and a much larger number of things going on the screen at once. He has designed MGS4 to fit within the PS3, just his original vision before he ever got his hand on the Ps3 wasn't quite possible. On any console, that doesn't make the game any worse.

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Flame flame troll.

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#28 inertk
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Does the PS3 have ONE AAAE? The 360 has what 6? I mean come on now. Stop with the excuses.

Coredog777

What are the 6 exclusive AAA games the 360 has here at GS? If you don't mind, I'd just like names to go along with the obviously superior gaming experience that the console provides.

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#29 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Wow the hate on the PS3 is starting to pick up...

What Ill like to know is what has MS released this year to compete with GT5P, MLB 08, and Echochrome? Actually what the heck have they released this year? MGS4 is out next month which will just completely overshadow NG2...Im sorry but the PS3 has had a pretty good start and will most likely finish strong with LBP, Socom, and R2.

ermacness

i like to call it:

"fear"8)

If I saw this vid I'd be afraid too.

http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/video/killzone-2.html#view:242742

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#30 h575309
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[QUOTE="Coredog777"]

Does the PS3 have ONE AAAE? The 360 has what 6? I mean come on now. Stop with the excuses.

inertk

What are the 6 exclusive AAA games the 360 has here at GS? If you don't mind, I'd just like names to go along with the obviously superior gaming experience that the console provides.

i actually see only 4.... which includes forza 2 and pdz which are some weak ass aaae's in my opinion. realistically it has 2: halo 3 and gears. thats still better than what the ps3 has given though.

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all whining from dissapointed people.. my god.. and maybe even FAKE and just flame bating... go play a game man...
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#32 cametall
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[QUOTE="Coredog777"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

thrones

Which "signs" are you referring to?

And KZ2 is coming in Feb 2009 not November.

Kojima saying he thought the PS3 could do more and is dissapointed it couldnt be what he thought it could be, MGS4 online is nothing crazy, so those are two, also previous MGS were AA. Ok Feb 2009, still not 2008. That is pathetic.

Gamespot scores doesn't determine a game's quality, but one single man's perspective of that game.

But it does determine their quality here in System Wars.

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#33 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Coredog777"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

Coredog777

Which "signs" are you referring to?

And KZ2 is coming in Feb 2009 not November.

Kojima saying he thought the PS3 could do more and is dissapointed it couldnt be what he thought it could be, MGS4 online is nothing crazy, so those are two, also previous MGS were AA. Ok Feb 2009, still not 2008. That is pathetic.

so what does that say for the 360? Also, the only MGS that was direst chapters to the story and not some spin-off/remake that received AA scores was MGS3. MGS4 will set standard in the stealth genre for sure. That's probably why Ubisoft bailed out on the stealth approach foe Splinter Cell and went for the more free-roam, Assassins creed approach because they felt that they couldn't beat or hang with MGS in the stealth genre

by the way, didn't fable get AA scores here at gamespot as well?

Does the PS3 have ONE AAAE? The 360 has what 6? I mean come on now. Stop with the excuses.

so riddle me this:

with all of those acclaimed AAAE's, why have the ps3 outsold the 360 in 07? why have the ps3 over took Europe and still can't get japan? why is the 360 barely beating the ps3 (with march being the 1st month in 08 that the 360 have won) in N.A.(the 360's domain)?

By the way, can you define "exclusive" because if those "6" games that you list as "exclusive" are on the PC as well, then you my friend need to go get a dictionary and grow a bond with it

P.S. AAAE's are only an opinion buddy, and this saying about the ps3 don't have any AAAE's only exists in gamespot, metacritic (overall score) and gamerankings (overall score)

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#34 DarkCloud79
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[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

Does the PS3 have ONE AAAE? The 360 has what 6? I mean come on now. Stop with the excuses.

h575309

What are the 6 exclusive AAA games the 360 has here at GS? If you don't mind, I'd just like names to go along with the obviously superior gaming experience that the console provides.

i actually see only 4.... which includes forza 2 and pdz which are some weak ass aaae's in my opinion. realistically it has 2: halo 3 and gears. thats still better than what the ps3 has given though.

GeOW is not exclusive, but they like to think GRAW is.

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#35 SHuN_G0Ku
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[QUOTE="Coredog777"]

So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

ermacness

translation:

"the ps3 over took Europe and is closing the gap between the 360 in overall salesand is giving good comp against the 360 in it's home country (N.A). Resistance 2 is looking to promising as well as motorstorm 2, while the only really promising games that have a 08 release date for the 360 is Gears 2, NG2, and Fable 2, and if motorstorm 2 do make it's initial release date, then that will mean that the ps3 will have 3 major hitters to come out as well as the 360, but only to have 1 game out of the 3 to have a mass market appeal which is gears, while all the ps3 3 big hitters will definitely (if motorstorm can make the date) will have a huge market appeal and alot better of a market appeal than NG2 or Fable 2. I want me a ps3 so bad, but can't afford one"

:lol: haha...

lemms are awfully loose and ridiculously threatened...

35 MORE DAYS BABY!!!

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#36 Always-Honest
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funniest thing.. i all your posts.. you bash the ps3... hmmn,, makes you wonder..
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#37 ReverseCycology
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The way I see it, these consoles need to prove them selves to take the honor of making the year theirs. And so far Sony is the furthest from taking that spot. It looks like its between the 360 and Wii, because these two already proven to have amazing critically acclaimed games and also redonkalous sales. Both has quantity and quality, while the PS3 not so much.

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#38 xTHExJUICEx
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[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

Wow the hate on the PS3 is starting to pick up...

What Ill like to know is what has MS released this year to compete with GT5P, MLB 08, and Echochrome? Actually what the heck have they released this year? MGS4 is out next month which will just completely overshadow NG2...Im sorry but the PS3 has had a pretty good start and will most likely finish strong with LBP, Socom, and R2.

Bread_or_Decide

i like to call it:

"fear"8)

If I saw this vid I'd be afraid too.

http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/video/killzone-2.html#view:242742

Thank you for that video thank you so very freakin much....ugh the game looks amazing!

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#39 thrones
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But it does determine their quality here in System Wars.

cametall

Surely we're here to argue the merit of the game as a whole, not just what gamespot says :|

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#40 Cedmln
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Very uninformed... MGS 4 has no online and GT5: P is not GT 5. Killzone 2 is unfortunate and Haze is a hit or miss.

and you're clearly just a fanboy looking to attack something.

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#41 DarkCloud79
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The way I see it, these consoles need to prove them selves to take the honor of making the year theirs. And so far Sony is the furthest from taking that spot. It looks like its between the 360 and Wii, because these two already proven to have amazing critically acclaimed games and also redonkalous sales. Both has quantity and quality, while the PS3 not so much.

ReverseCycology

What critically aclaimed game has the 360 delivered this year?

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#42 h575309
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

Does the PS3 have ONE AAAE? The 360 has what 6? I mean come on now. Stop with the excuses.

DarkCloud79

What are the 6 exclusive AAA games the 360 has here at GS? If you don't mind, I'd just like names to go along with the obviously superior gaming experience that the console provides.

i actually see only 4.... which includes forza 2 and pdz which are some weak ass aaae's in my opinion. realistically it has 2: halo 3 and gears. thats still better than what the ps3 has given though.

GeOW is not exclusive, but they like to think GRAW is.

ahh you are right. lol this whole exclusivity thing is so retarded. if you cant get it on ps3 but can get it on 360 thats what makes it exclusive to me. i dunno how many times ive had this argument though. great titles like geow and bioshock cannot be played on a ps3 yet it doesnt count as a point in the 360s favor. makes no sense.

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Very uninformed... MGS 4 has no online and GT5: P is not GT 5. Killzone 2 is unfortunate and Haze is a hit or miss.

and you're clearly just a fanboy looking to attack something.

Cedmln

Sorry, MGS4 does have online. It comes with the game. Its called Metal Gear Online.

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#44 butteater86
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The way I see it, these consoles need to prove them selves to take the honor of making the year theirs. And so far Sony is the furthest from taking that spot. It looks like its between the 360 and Wii, because these two already proven to have amazing critically acclaimed games and also redonkalous sales. Both has quantity and quality, while the PS3 not so much.

ReverseCycology

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

Do you get satisfaction out of being wrong all the time?

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#45 ermacness
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[QUOTE="DarkCloud79"][QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

Does the PS3 have ONE AAAE? The 360 has what 6? I mean come on now. Stop with the excuses.

h575309

What are the 6 exclusive AAA games the 360 has here at GS? If you don't mind, I'd just like names to go along with the obviously superior gaming experience that the console provides.

i actually see only 4.... which includes forza 2 and pdz which are some weak ass aaae's in my opinion. realistically it has 2: halo 3 and gears. thats still better than what the ps3 has given though.

GeOW is not exclusive, but they like to think GRAW is.

ahh you are right. lol this whole exclusivity thing is so retarded. if you cant get it on ps3 but can get it on 360 thats what makes it exclusive to me. i dunno how many times ive had this argument though. great titles like geow and bioshock cannot be played on a ps3 yet it doesnt count as a point in the 360s favor. makes no sense.

yes it does because they're not exclusive. Look up "exclusive" in the dictionary. Now, yes, it's a fact that the ps3 players can't play these games, but you don't need a 360 to play these game in which means that these games are not 360 exclusives
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#46 h575309
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

The way I see it, these consoles need to prove them selves to take the honor of making the year theirs. And so far Sony is the furthest from taking that spot. It looks like its between the 360 and Wii, because these two already proven to have amazing critically acclaimed games and also redonkalous sales. Both has quantity and quality, while the PS3 not so much.

butteater86

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

Do you get satisfaction out of being wrong all the time?

whats your point with that link? that gta4 scored higher on ps3?

please dont tell me your serious

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#47 butteater86
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[QUOTE="butteater86"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

The way I see it, these consoles need to prove them selves to take the honor of making the year theirs. And so far Sony is the furthest from taking that spot. It looks like its between the 360 and Wii, because these two already proven to have amazing critically acclaimed games and also redonkalous sales. Both has quantity and quality, while the PS3 not so much.

h575309

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

Do you get satisfaction out of being wrong all the time?

whats your point with that link? that gta4 scored higher on ps3?

please dont tell me your serious

Well apparently you can't link it to your filtered chart. I had it filtered to the top 40 rated PS3 games; 38 of them being rated above 80%.

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GT5P is very worth it to some people, but it isn't a full game. According to gamestop, the "cons" of the game include not enough tracks, prologue to the real thing, online suffers lag times, and no option to upgrade parts. At least 3/4 of those things we know will be improved since they were already options in GT4. So if the full game will satisfy these criteria without removing anything else from GT5P and GS stays consistent to their review, its a given that the score will be much higher unless they nitpick at things here and there.

MGS4 also was not a disappointment apart from it not having all the features available YET and it going down already. That game is a blast especially when you have people who you know and everyone is willing to play as a team. It's a whole lot better than MGOsubsistance and MGPO. Only problem with it so far is how the hell do two people die at the same time so often..

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#49 Lazy_Boy88
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

Coredog777

Which "signs" are you referring to?

And KZ2 is coming in Feb 2009 not November.

Kojima saying he thought the PS3 could do more and is dissapointed it couldnt be what he thought it could be, MGS4 online is nothing crazy, so those are two, also previous MGS were AA. Ok Feb 2009, still not 2008. That is pathetic.

He was refering to this generation as a whole genius. Last 2 MGSs have been AAA too. Portable Ops and MGS3 rerelease both 9.0. It's definitely overall a AAA series under any measure.

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#50 Pietrooper
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[QUOTE="Coredog777"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

So much for this being PS3's year. I am extremely dissapointed once in again in Sony. I know MGS4 hasnt come out, but the signs are there already that the game isnt going to be as huge as cows touted. Killzone 2 had trailers in 2005, yet now is coming in November 2009? GT5P = bumber cars and inferior to Forza 2 and PG4. MGS4 online also is very slow and reminds me of Lost Planet when it first came out. Haze well that is just disgusting. Still no AAAE, still no in-game xmb, and still all broken promises as I see it. Gears 2 will also be the # 1 shooter of 2008, so lets see if Resistance 2 can do better than Resistance which was an AA game, whereas Gears was GOTY. It sure looks like 2008 can be the year of the 360 once again.

Lazy_Boy88

Which "signs" are you referring to?

And KZ2 is coming in Feb 2009 not November.

Kojima saying he thought the PS3 could do more and is dissapointed it couldnt be what he thought it could be, MGS4 online is nothing crazy, so those are two, also previous MGS were AA. Ok Feb 2009, still not 2008. That is pathetic.

He was refering to this generation as a whole genius. Last 2 MGSs have been AAA too. Portable Ops and MGS3 rerelease both 9.0. It's definitely overall a AAA series under any measure.

Not Gamespot, the only unbiased unafefcted and totally factual site left. Though you'd think reviews are subjective, gamespot reviews are NOT. They are in fact REAL objective.