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#51 shadowcat2576
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Boy this brings back memories. Remember when the Sony fans would post lists of upcoming games like "Naughty Dog Project" and "Team Ico Game". How about the Wii's lists with SC Legends and Castlevania Judgement Day?

Right now we have a list of Kinect games. We know almost nothing about most of them. They could be great, they could be really bad, they could go the way of Milo and disappear. The potential is there, but until we see it actually put to use the reality is that Kinect is geared towards casual gaming experiences.

I'm sorry, Harry Potter is not a hardcore game. It never was and never will be. It is a movie tie-in game bought by Harry Potter fans. I say this as someone who owns every HP game in some form.

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#52 annoyingdevil
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OMG

this thread is a joke

harry potter aint hardcore and it will fail like the other harry potters its a movie game dont get your hopes up

same goes for star wars dont get your hopes up its just star wars the force unleashed 2 which was crap

and you dont know what hardcore games are you think its basically games rated over teen

here are some harcore games rated everyone

little big planet

super mario galaxy 2

the closest game to harcore on the kinect is dance central

oh yh

and guess what

fighters uncaged got 2.0

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#53 annoyingdevil
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I got and im loving kinect but...Gears3 may use it? Now im starting to be worried.

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no it wont maybe gears of war 57 return of general ramm
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#54 N30F3N1X
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Well?

Where are the hardcore games?

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#55 Diviniuz
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Those aren't hardcore games... First the tc talks about fable 3 having extreme depth and hardcore, and now this list.
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#57 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

Harry potter (later books) might be hardcore to a 10 year old but to older folks nah.....

AbleFa3

Same can be asid about Sorcery for Move and looks even more kiddy too

lol you basing me off my sig i couldnt reallycare bout move or kinect lol.My wii is used for the purpose of drunken multiplayer with the use of the mario and sonic games.

But HP is far from hardcore its mainly aimed at younger gamers and these games aint difficult i played one with my wee cousin who is7 andhe wasnt really struggling,hence the reason its got the kinectzzzz!!!!this type of gaming appeals more to them than standard pad and hands.

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#58 annoyingdevil
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

Harry potter (later books) might be hardcore to a 10 year old but to older folks nah.....

AbleFa3

Same can be asid about Sorcery for Move and looks even more kiddy too

sorcery looks like a rpg game (I am not saying it is rpg ) fans would like and the spells look to complicated for a kid the only kiddy thing is graphics

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#59 annoyingdevil
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So, now that Kinect is out and is selling huge, it seems it is targeting the hardcore gamers more than the casual ones after all

Hardcore games announced for Kinect for 2011

Star Wars Kinect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilmPq98wXcw

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qid3dfBvK3A

Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor (2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGh7LBjcnsE

Haunt (2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeqoWBSXan8

CodenameD (2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubAVei5JzYA

Project Draco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLr92mGuwnM

Rise of Nightmares
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDkla5AFau8

Child of Eden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EfjJeRzQ5M

Forza 4 Kinect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw0sEywe3_4


Fable 4, Alan Wake 2 and Gears 3 are now semi-confirmed to use Kinect

Lionhead and Remedy are involved with Kinect development right now and Kinect is confirmed for Fable as well

Gears 3 is rumored to have Kinect support or a spin of with Kinect

http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/rumor-gears-of-war-coming-to-k/1144745?page=1#post_row_30830957
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/remedys-new-project-using-alan/1144605
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-09-23-rumour-project-milo-cancelled
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/05/molyneux-fable-3-kinect-features-needed-more-development-time/

Seems Kinect has got far more than the 9 announced hardcore games after all :)

And i am sure Rare will make a core Kinect title and announce it soon

So, aside from the 9 announced hardcore games coming, the below companies are working with Kinect

Lionhead (Fable)
Remedy (Alan Wake)
Rare (Banjo, Kameo, Pinata)
Epic (Gears)

Which of course is simply AMAZING for Kinect imho :)

Last but not least

http://www.xboxaddict.com/news/10751/Hybrid-Kinect-Controller-Games-in-Development.html

Many Hybrid Kinect-Pad games are in development !!!

AbleFa3

haha lol please dont get your hopes up

"There are controllers and they come from the future they have something called buttons they are useful for shooters , platformers and other genres . seriously who would play gears of war 3 like they are in third grade ."

anyway IMAGINE IF infamous 1 was on kinect . The combat would be so simple all you could do is just basic elecetricity and electricity grenade not the other moves .I bet that will happend with harry potter and star wars hey guess what HALO 1000 fall of the reach is confimed for kinect

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#60 -Snooze-
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Kinect will have no "hardcore" games. It'll have a bunch of promising titles developed by big devs that will be watered down and simplified to "almost" work with Kinect.

There's no reason to get your hopes up about core Kinect titles, just cause aSteel Battalian tyep game by the original devs is in the works doesn't mean on release it even resemble the title many loved. Kinect just has far too many limitations to make it work well with a game like that, unless they go a silly route and make you press buttons on a virtual controller :lol:

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#61 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

Harry potter (later books) might be hardcore to a 10 year old but to older folks nah.....

annoyingdevil

Same can be asid about Sorcery for Move and looks even more kiddy too

sorcery looks like a rpg game (I am not saying it is rpg ) fans would like and the spells look to complicated for a kid the only kiddy thing is graphics

Actually the spells and whole thing was kiddy andextremely easy, more so than Potter

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#62 shadowcat2576
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The now "hardcore" Harry Potter game has now received a spectacular 1 star review form Joystiq and and 2.5/10 from IGN. To be fair, IGN did say that the Kinect add-on content was probably more fun then the rest of the game because it was so short.

Now lets discuss what Kinect brought to the Harry Potter party: a tacked on game mode that allows players to wave their hand like a wand. Game play is on rails and aiming is nonexistant. This sure sounds like the days of added Wii minigame mode to me.

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Isn't this the same list you keep posting in every thread?

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#64 Rage010101
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Isn't this the same list you keep posting in every thread?

Dire_Weasel

yeah he just keeps copy/pasting the same thing over and over. during the stickied kinect thread he posted this. i argued back and forth with them of the list not being hardcore at all except for maybe 2 potential games that we have yet seen if they'll be hardcore or not. almost the entire list has no gameplay footage.

also, i told him the majority of system wars would agree with me that the list is not hardcore, and it looks like i was right from the looks of this thread LOL

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The now "hardcore" Harry Potter game has now received a spectacular 1 star review form Joystiq and and 2.5/10 from IGN. To be fair, IGN did say that the Kinect add-on content was probably more fun then the rest of the game because it was so short.

Now lets discuss what Kinect brought to the Harry Potter party: a tacked on game mode that allows players to wave their hand like a wand. Game play is on rails and aiming is nonexistant. This sure sounds like the days of added Wii minigame mode to me.

shadowcat2576

That one was expected, it is a movie game

Also this actually is good news for Kinect, since IGN said Kinect was the most fun, so if the game was Kinect only like all the rest would be a far better one

Kinect seems to deliver yet again, the game though not

Of course the fail of a movie game does not mean anything for the rest of the titles that are real games from real developers

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#67 IBEPerfection
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="shadowcat2576"]

The now "hardcore" Harry Potter game has now received a spectacular 1 star review form Joystiq and and 2.5/10 from IGN.

Dire_Weasel

Kinect seems to deliver yet again, the game though not

You're actually insane, aren't you?

Hype about a potential game is now delivering? WOW
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#68 shadowcat2576
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="shadowcat2576"]

The now "hardcore" Harry Potter game has now received a spectacular 1 star review form Joystiq and and 2.5/10 from IGN. To be fair, IGN did say that the Kinect add-on content was probably more fun then the rest of the game because it was so short.

Now lets discuss what Kinect brought to the Harry Potter party: a tacked on game mode that allows players to wave their hand like a wand. Game play is on rails and aiming is nonexistant. This sure sounds like the days of added Wii minigame mode to me.

That one was expected, it is a movie game

Also this actually is good news for Kinect, since IGN said Kinect was the most fun, so if the game was Kinect only like all the rest would be a far better one

Kinect seems to deliver yet again, the game though not

Of course the fail of a movie game does not mean anything for the rest of the titles that are real games from real developers

You were the one to put Harry Potter in the list of games that will show Kinect can do "hardcore games". Now that it flopped it's expected that it was a bad game? I would consider the the IGN statement to be damning with faint praise.
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daaaaanng ablafa3, I want the **** your smoking!!
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So, now that Kinect is out and is selling huge, it seems it is targeting the hardcore gamers more than the casual ones after allAbleFa3
:lol: This is actually brilliant :lol:
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#71 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="shadowcat2576"]

The now "hardcore" Harry Potter game has now received a spectacular 1 star review form Joystiq and and 2.5/10 from IGN. To be fair, IGN did say that the Kinect add-on content was probably more fun then the rest of the game because it was so short.

Now lets discuss what Kinect brought to the Harry Potter party: a tacked on game mode that allows players to wave their hand like a wand. Game play is on rails and aiming is nonexistant. This sure sounds like the days of added Wii minigame mode to me.

shadowcat2576

That one was expected, it is a movie game

Also this actually is good news for Kinect, since IGN said Kinect was the most fun, so if the game was Kinect only like all the rest would be a far better one

Kinect seems to deliver yet again, the game though not

Of course the fail of a movie game does not mean anything for the rest of the titles that are real games from real developers

You were the one to put Harry Potter in the list of games that will show Kinect can do "hardcore games". Now that it flopped it's expected that it was a bad game? I would consider the the IGN statement to be damning with faint praise.

I just posted the hardcore games, i never said Potter would score 10/10, did i ?

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#72 K-76
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Mass Effect 2

Alan Wake

Halo Reach

Fable III

Kinect

MS delivered this year in my book, I wouldn't exchange any of these games for anything the PS3 offered this year which has been a mighty fail so far.

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#73 AbleFa3
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Mass Effect 2

Alan Wake

Halo Reach

Fable III

Kinect

MS delivered this year in my book, I wouldn't exchange any of these games for anything the PS3 offered this year which has been a mighty fail so far.

K-76

I actually got Demons Souls this year (Europe), so both systems had their best year so far, Fable 3, Mass Effect 1, Lost Odyssey and Demons Souls are my four top games this generation by miles

Though indeed, 360 had vastly more to offer this year and played it far more myself and Kinect seems amazing too, never expected that it would work so well

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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]So, now that Kinect is out and is selling huge, it seems it is targeting the hardcore gamers more than the casual ones after allgamebreakerz__
:lol: This is actually brilliant :lol:

It is true, after launch Kinect has zero casual games and only 10 announced hardcore games for 2011

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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="AbleFa3"]So, now that Kinect is out and is selling huge, it seems it is targeting the hardcore gamers more than the casual ones after allAbleFa3

:lol: This is actually brilliant :lol:

It is true, after launch Kinect has zero casual games and only 10 announced hardcore games for 2011

it's like someone just pressed your reset button and you're starting a whole new cycle of things that just aren't true. no matter how many times you're proven wrong, you will continue to say and post the same links over and over til the end of time.

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Project Draco

http://kotaku.com/5693953/your-first-brief-look-at-kinects-panzer-dragoon

Project Draco is basically Panzer Dragoon for the Xbox 360's Kinect. It's even made by the same guy. First revealed at this year's Tokyo Game Show, though, it's only today we get our first proper look at the game.

These two screenshots, courtesy of Japanase game site Famitsu, show that, yeah. You ride dragons!


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Project Draco

http://kotaku.com/5693953/your-first-brief-look-at-kinects-panzer-dragoon

Project Draco is basically Panzer Dragoon for the Xbox 360's Kinect. It's even made by the same guy. First revealed at this year's Tokyo Game Show, though, it's only today we get our first proper look at the game.

These two screenshots, courtesy of Japanase game site Famitsu, show that, yeah. You ride dragons!

AbleFa3

And riding dragons makes a game hardcore? :lol:

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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Project Draco

http://kotaku.com/5693953/your-first-brief-look-at-kinects-panzer-dragoon

Project Draco is basically Panzer Dragoon for the Xbox 360's Kinect. It's even made by the same guy. First revealed at this year's Tokyo Game Show, though, it's only today we get our first proper look at the game.

These two screenshots, courtesy of Japanase game site Famitsu, show that, yeah. You ride dragons!

UnrealDelusion

And riding dragons makes a game hardcore? :lol:

Simplistic mindless shooting for 7 hours makes Gears 2 hardcore then ?

And yes, i think it makes it ultra hardcore and then some

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[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Project Draco

http://kotaku.com/5693953/your-first-brief-look-at-kinects-panzer-dragoon

Project Draco is basically Panzer Dragoon for the Xbox 360's Kinect. It's even made by the same guy. First revealed at this year's Tokyo Game Show, though, it's only today we get our first proper look at the game.

These two screenshots, courtesy of Japanase game site Famitsu, show that, yeah. You ride dragons!

AbleFa3

And riding dragons makes a game hardcore? :lol:

Simplistic mindless shooting for 7 hours makes Gears 2 hardcore then ?

And yes, i think it makes it ultra hardcore and then some

Then you sir you have no idea what you are talking about what you already proved multiple times in this and other threads.

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#80 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

And riding dragons makes a game hardcore? :lol:

UnrealDelusion

Simplistic mindless shooting for 7 hours makes Gears 2 hardcore then ?

And yes, i think it makes it ultra hardcore and then some

Then you sir you have no idea what you are talking about what you already proved multiple times in this and other threads.

Ok then, since you have that idea, can you tell me why Gears 2 is hardcore and Project Draco isnt ?

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[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Simplistic mindless shooting for 7 hours makes Gears 2 hardcore then ?

And yes, i think it makes it ultra hardcore and then some

AbleFa3

Then you sir you have no idea what you are talking about what you already proved multiple times in this and other threads.

Ok then, since you have that idea, can you tell me why Gears 2 is hardcore and Project Draco isnt ?

Where did you ever see me say that Gears 2 is hardcore?

You brought that game up i just ignored that part.

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#82 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Then you sir you have no idea what you are talking about what you already proved multiple times in this and other threads.

UnrealDelusion

Ok then, since you have that idea, can you tell me why Gears 2 is hardcore and Project Draco isnt ?

Where did you ever see me say that Gears 2 is hardcore?

You brought that game up i just ignored that part.

Funny, you said i have no idea what i am talking about, and you hav not even read the post you replied too ?

Amazing !!!!

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[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Ok then, since you have that idea, can you tell me why Gears 2 is hardcore and Project Draco isnt ?

AbleFa3

Where did you ever see me say that Gears 2 is hardcore?

You brought that game up i just ignored that part.

Funny, you said i have no idea what i am talking about, and you hav not even read the post you replied too ?

Amazing !!!!

Oh so then please point out to me where i said Gears 2 is hardcore?

And no you wouldn't recognise deep complex game when it's right in front of you. You seem to think simplistic shallow games like Fable 3 are the hardcore and complex sims :lol:

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#84 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Where did you ever see me say that Gears 2 is hardcore?

You brought that game up i just ignored that part.

UnrealDelusion

Funny, you said i have no idea what i am talking about, and you hav not even read the post you replied too ?

Amazing !!!!

Oh so then please point out to me where i said Gears 2 is hardcore?

And no you wouldn't recognise deep complex game when it's right in front of you. You seem to think simplistic shallow games like Fable 3 are the hardcore and complex sims :lol:

I have never seen a more complex game world than Fable 3 one, there is nothing like it

Of course you are wellcome to prove otherwise

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I have never seen a more complex game world than Fable 3 one, there is nothing like it

Of course you are wellcome to prove otherwise

AbleFa3

I'll go with UnrealDelusion on this one, you have no idea of what you're talking about.

Tell me, does the name "Black Isle" ring any bell?

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#86 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

I have never seen a more complex game world than Fable 3 one, there is nothing like it

Of course you are wellcome to prove otherwise

N30F3N1X

I'll go with UnrealDelusion on this one, you have no idea of what you're talking about.

Tell me, does the name "Black Isle" ring any bell?

I dont see what you mean TBH