Kinect is going to >>>CRUSH>>> Move in sales.

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#101 lx_theo
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Well people will buy it becasue they don't realize how little it can actually do. Then they'll stop playing it after about a day, then word will get out and kill sales. Yeah, it'll do well off the bat, but word of mouth will kill it quick.
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#102 kramer_inc
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I expect sales to be high but after people tire of it returns will be as well

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#103 BirdmanJr_basic
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If the lines at PAX are any indication, yes Kinect will crush Move. People were going bananas over that Dance Central game and Kinect Adventures.

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#104 alexside1
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Well one thing is for certain casuals outnumber hardcore a 100 to one.
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#105 nervmeister
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Well people will buy it becasue they don't realize how little it can actually do. Then they'll stop playing it after about a day, then word will get out and kill sales. Yeah, it'll do well off the bat, but word of mouth will kill it quick.lx_theo
Perhaps, but if Just Dance (Wii) managed to stay in UK's Top 10 up until this month, then Kinect's Dance Central alone (with periodic DL updates) might be enough to keep attracting casuals. Casuals apparently don't care that much about versatility in gameplay. Sad but true.

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#106 Kleeyook
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I thought u'll post some evidences to support your argument. Fail thread. :(
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#107 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"]Well people will buy it becasue they don't realize how little it can actually do. Then they'll stop playing it after about a day, then word will get out and kill sales. Yeah, it'll do well off the bat, but word of mouth will kill it quick.nervmeister

Perhaps, but if Just Dance (Wii) managed to stay in UK's Top 10 up until this month, then Kinect's Dance Central alone (with periodic DL updates) might be enough to keep attracting casuals. Casuals apparently don't care that much about versatility in gameplay. Sad but true.

I guess the real question is, how long will it take for Harmonix to release a Move version of Dance Central? Their CEO already said they want to, and that they think it is possible.

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#108 voxware
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Hardware sales are nothing really compared to software sales

Expect the move to dominate in those.. as it's just not as limited when it comes to games supporting the device

You know how people give the Wii crap because the strongest first party titles don't use motion controls... imagine franchises like Halo and Gears not using Kinect

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#109 Fumpa
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I don't care if it sells more. You could give me one and I'd probably never use it. Move has a greater chance of having games that I'd like to play. Kinect has that annoying lag, and I'm not convinced that it can consistently capture all movements. So pass.
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#110 verbtex  Moderator
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Although I don't doubt you, how the heck are we going to track these sales?

Sony has a headstart here. I wonder if they will play out like the console sales. Earlier release=more units sold. Of course, the Wii was the exception.

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#111 ProjectNatalFan
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I don't care if it sells more. You could give me one and I'd probably never use it. Move has a greater chance of having games that I'd like to play. Kinect has that annoying lag, and I'm not convinced that it can consistently capture all movements. So pass. Fumpa

from everyone who has recently played it they have said it has no lag, sorry.

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#112 ProjectNatalFan
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Although I don't doubt you, how the heck are we going to track these sales?

Sony has a headstart here. I wonder if they will play out like the console sales. Earlier release=more units sold. Of course, the Wii was the exception.

verbtex

move isnt going to sell like Kinect, day one Kinect sales will be higher than Sony Moves for the whole month. People are gonna go crazy for kinect, its going to be a hot item this christmas as well IMHO. Gamestop employees I have talked to on here and in stores says that the Kinect has a ton more preorders than Move. Once again MS is gonna deliver.

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#113 Keiji993
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[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Although I don't doubt you, how the heck are we going to track these sales?

Sony has a headstart here. I wonder if they will play out like the console sales. Earlier release=more units sold. Of course, the Wii was the exception.

ProjectNatalFan

move isnt going to sell like Kinect, day one Kinect sales will be higher than Sony Moves for the whole month. People are gonna go crazy for kinect, its going to be a hot item this christmas as well IMHO. Gamestop employees I have talked to on here and in stores says that the Kinect has a ton more preorders than Move. Once again MS is gonna deliver.

Yeah because sales = quality and minigames > full games?

Are you getting paid for every Kinect sell?

Have you not seen the Kinect videos? Did you see Star Wars at E3? lolwut M$?

Microsoft advertises Kinect Sony doesnt advertise Move. I seen Kinect on a Macys commerical and others. Its obviously going to sell more but its hardware limited and garbage compared to Wii/Move.

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#114 Fumpa
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[QUOTE="Fumpa"]I don't care if it sells more. You could give me one and I'd probably never use it. Move has a greater chance of having games that I'd like to play. Kinect has that annoying lag, and I'm not convinced that it can consistently capture all movements. So pass. ProjectNatalFan

from everyone who has recently played it they have said it has no lag, sorry.

I guess we'll have to wait and see. Hopefully these "everyone" do exist, and that there is no lag. I'm not wanting Kinect to fail. My opinion on the performance is just based on what I've seen.
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#115 Sh4nk3r
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Yeah kinect games do look terrible.

But it isn't like Move's are any better .-.

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#116 verbtex  Moderator
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Has anyone seen these Coca Cola Move Advertisements? I have yet to see one. I know subway is advertisng, but not anyone else.

I've seen the Kinect adverts, but Kinect is in November, isn't it?

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#117 _Cadbury_
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[QUOTE="Fumpa"]I don't care if it sells more. You could give me one and I'd probably never use it. Move has a greater chance of having games that I'd like to play. Kinect has that annoying lag, and I'm not convinced that it can consistently capture all movements. So pass. ProjectNatalFan

from everyone who has recently played it they have said it has no lag, sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Bs_PKX_qU video disagrees with you.
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#118 ProjectNatalFan
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="Fumpa"]I don't care if it sells more. You could give me one and I'd probably never use it. Move has a greater chance of having games that I'd like to play. Kinect has that annoying lag, and I'm not convinced that it can consistently capture all movements. So pass. _Cadbury_

from everyone who has recently played it they have said it has no lag, sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Bs_PKX_qU video disagrees with you.

old build

http://www.maxconsole.net/content.php?41042-Latest-Kinect-build-has-zero-lag-claims-journalist

please judge the Kinect by what you play, not on some random old build on the internet... Thanks :wink: :arrow:

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#119 ProjectNatalFan
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Has anyone seen these Coca Cola Move Advertisements? I have yet to see one. I know subway is advertisng, but not anyone else.

I've seen the Kinect adverts, but Kinect is in November, isn't it?

verbtex

what does it say?Just wondering... Classic advertisement and quite smart...

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#120 _Cadbury_
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

from everyone who has recently played it they have said it has no lag, sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Bs_PKX_qU video disagrees with you.

old build

http://www.maxconsole.net/content.php?41042-Latest-Kinect-build-has-zero-lag-claims-journalist

please judge the Kinect by what you play, not on some random old build on the internet... Thanks :wink: :arrow:

If Kinect is the one having so much trouble with lag, why is it that you believe it will sell so much better than PS Move? I mean, there are so many instances of Kinect lagging. I mean, so far PS move has been rated 9/10,8/10,8.5/10,4.5/5,4/5. Yet youre so sure Kinect will outsell it?
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#121 deactivated-6079d224de716
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Why do lems always brag about how Kinect is going to sell better, but never about how they gonna buy and play it themselves? Are they gamers or shareholders?

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#122 ProjectNatalFan
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Bs_PKX_qU video disagrees with you._Cadbury_

old build

http://www.maxconsole.net/content.php?41042-Latest-Kinect-build-has-zero-lag-claims-journalist

please judge the Kinect by what you play, not on some random old build on the internet... Thanks :wink: :arrow:

If Kinect is the one having so much trouble with lag, why is it that you believe it will sell so much better than PS Move? I mean, there are so many instances of Kinect lagging. I mean, so far PS move has been rated 9/10,8/10,8.5/10,4.5/5,4/5. Yet youre so sure Kinect will outsell it?

its not having problems with lag, the newest software build has been flawless from what i read. Wait until it comes out to judge it, its going to trample Move sales....

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#123 kong_sevixnine
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Th move will pwn. Why? It looks like a Wii mote :P I think both suck but the Move has a better line up to say the least.
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#124 ProjectNatalFan
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Why do lems always brag about how Kinect is going to sell better, but never about how they gonna buy and play it themselves? Are they gamers or shareholders?

Orchid87

im getting Kinect for the Kinect Hub and Core games when they come out..... WE just believe in MS thats all, they know what they are doing and they put out a better product than the PS3 IMEOso it is what it is...

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#125 TheMightyHoov
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It may and it may not.

At the end of the day I really dont care.

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#126 _Cadbury_
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

old build

http://www.maxconsole.net/content.php?41042-Latest-Kinect-build-has-zero-lag-claims-journalist

please judge the Kinect by what you play, not on some random old build on the internet... Thanks :wink: :arrow:

If Kinect is the one having so much trouble with lag, why is it that you believe it will sell so much better than PS Move? I mean, there are so many instances of Kinect lagging. I mean, so far PS move has been rated 9/10,8/10,8.5/10,4.5/5,4/5. Yet youre so sure Kinect will outsell it?

its not having problems with lag, the newest software build has been flawless from what i read. Wait until it comes out to judge it, its going to trample Move sales....

Doesn't matter whether the issues have been resolved. A lot of people would have been put off by what they saw around the time of E3. PS Move is also being promoted by Coca Cola and Subway. And you really think its sales will be trampled?
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#127 ProjectNatalFan
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"] If Kinect is the one having so much trouble with lag, why is it that you believe it will sell so much better than PS Move? I mean, there are so many instances of Kinect lagging. I mean, so far PS move has been rated 9/10,8/10,8.5/10,4.5/5,4/5. Yet youre so sure Kinect will outsell it?_Cadbury_

its not having problems with lag, the newest software build has been flawless from what i read. Wait until it comes out to judge it, its going to trample Move sales....

Doesn't matter whether the issues have been resolved. A lot of people would have been put off by what they saw around the time of E3. PS Move is also being promoted by Coca Cola and Subway. And you really think its sales will be trampled?

yes I do without a doubt..

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#128 _Cadbury_
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

its not having problems with lag, the newest software build has been flawless from what i read. Wait until it comes out to judge it, its going to trample Move sales....

Doesn't matter whether the issues have been resolved. A lot of people would have been put off by what they saw around the time of E3. PS Move is also being promoted by Coca Cola and Subway. And you really think its sales will be trampled?

yes I do without a doubt..

Yeah, you would do o.o. No one stands to lose anything in the end except for you.
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#129 ProjectNatalFan
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"] Doesn't matter whether the issues have been resolved. A lot of people would have been put off by what they saw around the time of E3. PS Move is also being promoted by Coca Cola and Subway. And you really think its sales will be trampled?_Cadbury_

yes I do without a doubt..

Yeah, you would do o.o. No one stands to lose anything in the end except for you.

dont know what you mean but Kinect is going to trample the mOVe, mark my words.... quote me, and when it does, oh boy I will have fun in SW......

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#130 WolfmanRXR
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I bet that around six months or so after Kinect comes out, a really good gam is going to be released and then everyone who's been bashing it is going to suddenly change their mind so they don't get an "i told you so" from everybody ;)

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#131 donalbane
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I hope it catches on because I could see some really exciting possibilites with it... IF there is software support.
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#132 Fumpa
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I'm wondering if supporters of Kinect that are periodically posting topics like this are employees of MS. It seems to me that even Lemmings concede to the fact that Kinect is a casuals product so it's not worthy of being defended. I could be wrong and maybe I just see what I want to see.
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#134 Gue1
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It's funny howpeople change perpectives in an instant. Before Kinect and Move everybody was like "Death to casual gaming! the Wii's a disease" and now everybody's like, "Oh, move is so cool", "Kinect is going to have huge sales, casual games FTW".

So the rule here is: If your console doesn't has it then bash it.

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#135 hexashadow13
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It's funny howpeople change perpectives in an instant. Before Kinect and Move everybody was like "Death to casual gaming! the Wii's a disease" and now everybody's like, "Oh, move is so cool", "Kinect is going to have huge sales, casual games FTW".

So the rule here is: If your console doesn't has it then bash it.

Gue1
Well no duh. That's obvious and has been obvious since like, forever.
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#136 gadflyhorkstenk
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I'm not choosing sides, but a few people on the Giant Bombcast were asked what game they were most looking forward to for the rest of 2010 and Jeff Gerstmann and another guy mentioned Dance Central. I actually would be hyped about it (it actually looks fun imo), but the price of Kinect is what is stopping me at the moment. $150 is too much imo.

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#137 OmegaTau
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This is sad really sad.