Kinect is useless they say.....really?

It's actually vastly more useless now. We never found out what it could have turned into. The point of it being packed in was that developers would know that every single person would have one. A peripheral with a split market is completely useless compared to one without.

So it'll be a similar thing with that Project Morpheus thing too. A split market will mean it doesn't quite get the support it could have otherwise.

@ghostwarrior786:

I never claimed it was different or better to have my cable box connected to my X1. You however said "only a fuckin idiot will connect his cable box to his xbox anyway". I know I am not a fuckin idiot for making use of a feature that you don't like.

Maybe you don't turn your camera phone on, but are you sure something as powerful as the NSA couldn't?

Yeah but the first Kinect didn't really do much....perhaps they should have learned from their mistakes?

It is a great companion for gamers to have.

Dead Rising 3 and Alien: isolation with sound and motion detection. One sudden move or loud noise by the player will alert the enemy.

Head tracking in BF4 and Forza.

And, XBOX RECORD THAT!

I love my Kinect.

And Xbone's aswell with the exception of Forza 5. Your point?

I think what's really sad is that Kinect ALONE is kicking the PS4's ass in exclusive games.

Got to agree, I actually wished they didn't remove it but it was the quickest way to reduce the cost.

It has its place supporting hard core games as you have said

It has 3-4 Kinect games that actually scored well and are good games for people that like them. Good solid family fun goes a long way.

Its enhances the UI loads. Simple things like hiding the dodgy stuff (Aliens and Zombies) when kids are in the room, voice activation is useful and cool. Even not having to type in the stupid long codes with a controller.

Snapping the Saturday afternoon football or F1 while playing a game is something I do all the time. Using Kinect to snap and unsnap as games are loading is cool. Saying watch a channel and it goes to that channel is not only quick (especially if you don't know the number) but really easy to do.

People call Kinect and TV input, but those that have got it love it. Haters got to hate.

They did, the first Kinect had a split market, hence they packaged it with the X1.

I think they learned the wrong lesson then.....lol.

Yup, it's useless.

Yeah I had fun with that in DR3. Had to babysit my nephew and he kept screaming just to alert the zombies on me, little punk! Do you have Alien Iso? Is it well done?

"But for games like these" is the key phrase

xbone continues to get great games. ps4 has jack shit this year.

It's a risk, you can't tell until it happens.

Do you realise the whole reason the Wii is so weak is because it was a huge risk. If the Wii had failed and had been an expensive higher speced console, it would have been so costly to Nintendo. So they made it weak to minimize such an impact. It just so happens it was a big success. But it was a gamble. MS can absorb the blow and the only thing that happened was a reshuffle and some pissed off shareholders (or whatever).

But I'm disappointed, because what's left is two consoles which are just moderate expansions over last gen in more or less everyway. I liked the idea of the X1 in its launch form because while the current gen consoles weren't impressing me with their silly APU nonsense, this had the potential to offer something different. I'm disappointed the games industry said 'no we want exactly the same stuff we had before'. I mean wow, do we need two identical consoles? I don't get why they couldn't have co-existed.

Take a step back, wouldn't it have been more interesting to have the Wii U with its screen pad, the X1 with Kinect, the PS4 with the traditional approach and the PC in its current and constantly evolving state. Now that would have been an interesting gen. What we're left with is just kinda boring imo.

You're right, not only is the Kinect useless, but it costs money, so it's worse than just useless.

I do have Alien: Iso and I think the game is a really tight package. Great graphics, mechanics and A.I. My only gripe is the alien is up my ass too much at my point. I get scared just about every time that damn thing jumps out and kills me.

Because one demographic doesn't want to be left out of the third dev titles. It would basically kill off one of the competitors. Nintendo has a very loyal following so it can risks.....and parents still pick it for their children. So it's not as risky as you think. But the other two are basically similar in approach. If all MS offered were Kinect games I don't think they would survive. They have to go toe to toe with Sony.

I never wanted them to focus on Kinect specific games, rather a mix of current gen games and a sort of hybrid type of games maybe.

You like Kinect? I have it for my 360 but never really got into it.

Not too much with the Kinect specific games, and the technology wasn't great because of the lag, but I was hoping for a better approach.

I think the haters have been OWNED again! Hahahahahahahahha

I love my kinect and use it, quite literally, all the time.

The xbox one is simply better than the ps4. Has been since launch and will be through the end of the year and into the foreseeable future (who knows how the next year will shape up with both systems having big titles coming)

The Kinect is garbage! Dancing games and Fantasia?? Lmao

well i stand by my statement and if nasa want to turn my phone camera on well thats ok because its in my pocket not center stage in my living room

GTFO.

Kinect is so piss poor the only way to start selling Xbones was to scrap it.

Not to mention *almost* every game released for the thing runs like poo. If MS actually spend that ungodly amount of money in designing their controller. I would hate to see what much kinect 2.0 costed.

@Salt_The_Fries said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@Salt_The_Fries said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@Salt_The_Fries said:

@Animal-Mother try snapping an app without Kinect and coming back to game and then try to do the same with Kinect; try going from the deepest depths of console menu straight back to your game without the Kinect; try watching TV without Kinect - you can't control your cable box because Kinect is an IR blaster, you can even be doing something with your hands, like eating breakfast, taking off your pyjamas and still be able to use either your voice or gestures, you can even queue activities from your room's doorstep is really good; and the ability to do voice calls with your Skype minimized during playing a game is great.

'try snapping an app without Kinect' u mean pressing the xbox button twice and then selecting the app u want to snap? ahh the agony of pressing buttons haha

'try going from the deepest depths of console menu straight back to your game without the Kinect' u mean pressing the xbox button twice hahaha wtf is wrong with u?

'try watching TV without Kinect' u mean like millions already do and have done for the past decades haha, only a fukin idiot will connect his cable box to xbox anyway, what fukin purpose does it serve

#argument fail

First when you double-click Home button, you have to wait 5 seconds before even Apps appear in the snap menu, then if you want to, say, select Internet Explorer you have to enter another submenu and select it from it, and then you have to come back, so that's 10 seconds wasted compared to INSTANT ACTIVATION OF WHATEVER APP I WANT. Imagine doing this in Titanfall!

Biased cow logic fail!

imagine doing what in titanfall? browsing the web while playing the game? wtf haha why on earth would i want to do that? and if its taking 10 seconds for ur apps to appear then obviously u havnt changed ur dns setting, get with the times brah.

#**** kinect

#kinect(lol)

But you wouldn't want to use Game DVR to record clips? Or instantly start Twitching your match in Titanfall by saying "Xbox Broadcast" compared to multi-step process of doing this with the controller that will surely make you die? Yeah, right.

@sts106mat said:

anyone buying an x1 without the kinect is daft.

Its use in Forza Horizon 2 is superb.

Well, look what has arrived at my place:

Who buys hard copies of games anymore??

I think the voice control continues to get better on an OS functionality level.

Lots of people....it's the better way to go.

@LJS9502_basic: millions of STEAM subscribers disagree with you.

That just means the operating system is absolute dogshit. Just because they didn't design a competent OS doesn't mean kinect is actually good.. 5 seconds for apps to appear rofl..

The first few Guitar Hero games scored great in reviews but that didn't prevent me from hating their guts. Something tells me I would hate Fantasia and Dance Central Spotlight equally as passionately.

Random Reviewer's opinion < My Opinion

I love Kinect, I yell "Xbox On" as soon as I walk into my apartment and the Xbox turns on every time, then I can change out of my work uniform all the time checking my friends list, checking upload videos, starting a game, all with my voice. The Fantasia demo was awesome, brilliant use of Kinect, I also use Kinect in FH2 all the time, better than having to pause the game every time I want to get anywhere on the map.

Why would I want to do any of that shit while I'm gaming in the first place? Why would I want to "snap an app" while I'm playing a game? If there's something on my cable box I want to watch, I'm not playing a game. If I'm eating breakfast or taking off my pajamas, I really don't need to gesture to my kinect. If I'm playing a game, I'm playing a game. If I want to check a score or something on TV, I'll pause my game and change the channel.

Is your attention span really that short where you feel you need to perform 5 different activities at once?

Ok, good talk.

So it had more quality exclusives than PS4?

I'm guessing theres no way to really tell if it works with games such as Dance Central (/snicker). I just remember seeing the video of the dude playing that racing game where the game is almost driving the whole course for you while the dude just sits there perfectly still.

After that....I lost all hope for Kinect in any of it's interations and think reviewers just give Dance Central type games decent scores b/c, hey...everyone wants to be a party person.

Ouch, the Kinect alone has outdone the PS4.

I sure do miss the days when Rare was with Nintendo, likely Rare themselves are thinking the same way.

And I definitely don't need to even purchase a Kinect just to see how bad it is, I've first been convinced not to get it a long time ago. (Also don't see the point of getting it if I don't even have any X Box systems...)

@RR360DD: Heh....no.

I think everyone knows that indies are held to a different standard than full AAA games, with few exceptions. Nobody would consider a game like Spelunky HD or whatever on the same level as a full AAA experience.

The salt-the-fries guy just pointed out how gimped it is without Kinect, without realizing it. He was trying to brag about how much easier the OS is to use with one. That is part of the reason xbone got off to a rougher than necessary start. Hardcore fanboys acting like baghdad bob telling MS nothing is wrong and spinning every misstep into a positive.

I'm glad MS is starting to move in the right direction and going back to what made 360 great but there's still stuff to fix and you guys aren't helping by spinning what MS should be fixing.

Kinect will help a lot when MS release there own version of VR (superior head tracking to MOVE on the PS4) but apart from that i have zero interest in the device

I see it more as a peripheral for Dance Central games, which I loved on the Xbox 360, no different than investing in a Rock Band instrument set. But that's pretty much it. I've a friend though who mastered the voice command thingy so when I visit him he just navigates the menu like a savant while he's busy doing other things.

Whoop de doo. Millions agree with me.

Hey guys, remember Kinect?

Next gen, they said.

It's the future, they said.

Everyone will love waggle when they just give it a chance, they said.

They're never abandoning Kinect, they said.

Lemmings are a joke.

You're an idiot if you really think people are "daft" for buying X1 without a Kinect. All I gotta say