Kinect is working its magic - Lionhead Studios layoffs

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#101 dommeus
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It seems that 360's flagship this year - Fable: The Journey

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Good one. Halo 4?
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#103 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] how am i being a hypocrite? have you found my posts pointing at sony closing studios and laughing?

Better yet, point here in this thread which cows are making fun specifically of people losing their jobs? I see cows only making fun of lems not buying Kinect games.

so you avoid proving how i am a hypocrite. I dont have to point at any cow in this thread, its clear that what the intention of the thread was in the first place, making fun of fable the journey and pointing at 360 users as to blame for people losing their jobs. you were the one who jumped on the lems claiming we'd been "celebrating" sony going bankrupt. if you cant see that, you are a true cretin. i said you couldn't leave with even a gram of integrity and you continue to prove me correct.

I responded to a post that cows were celebrating people losing their jobs here. Please point this celebration. And then you said that lems that celebrate Sony going bankrupt get lambasted even by lems and I just show you two threads where that didn't happen and lems were making fun of Sony going bakrupt, in fact I can go and find more if you want. So you either show your evidence or you're a blatant hypocrite.
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#104 Truth_Hurts_U
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"] It doesnt feel like you know what youre talking about.

Maybe your a noob to consoles and haven't been following all that has taken place over the past 7 years.
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#105 Jankarcop
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Dat Fable

lol lemmings and their fake games.

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#106 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] Sure looks like delusions (or a grasping at straws last resort) from an objective point of view, yeah. Though by your ideas, I could laugh at an orphanage and everyone in it and say I was laughing about old construction methods. Sure sounds legit.lx_theo
Oh wow. How dumb are you? If you laughed at the orphanage and everyone in it and said you were laughing at the construction, you'd be a liar. Because YOU JUST SAID YOU WERE LAUGHING AT THE ORPHANAGE AND EVERYONE IN IT. How dense are you? To use your own analogy I laughed at the construction, not the occupants. Talk about being delusional.

Thank you for proving my point, given you laugh at the picture of people losing their job and many others with their's on the line. Get the **** over yourself on your moral high horse. You did what you did.

Yes I did what I did. I laughed at a picture, not what it represents and no amount of projection on your part to attempt to change the reality of what I did will change that. :)

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#108 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Oh wow. How dumb are you? If you laughed at the orphanage and everyone in it and said you were laughing at the construction, you'd be a liar. Because YOU JUST SAID YOU WERE LAUGHING AT THE ORPHANAGE AND EVERYONE IN IT. How dense are you? To use your own analogy I laughed at the construction, not the occupants. Talk about being delusional.The_Game21x

Thank you for proving my point, given you laugh at the picture of people losing their job and many others with their's on the line. Get the **** over yourself on your moral high horse. You did what you did.

Yes I did what I did. I laughed at a picture, not what it represents and no amount of projection on your part to attempt to change the reality of what I did will change that. :)

You laughed at picture with no idea what it stood for? You do realize that you have to account for what it represents (Sony not fairing well) when you see humor in there? Or are you really saying you are laughing at 100% visual parts of it and none of the context, words in it, or any idea associated with Sony or a boat sinking... ? God, you're stupid.
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#109 XenoNinja
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Lion Heads Studios answer to the already failing fable series was an on-rails kinect version of the game. it's all their undoing

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#111 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] Thank you for proving my point, given you laugh at the picture of people losing their job and many others with their's on the line. Get the **** over yourself on your moral high horse. You did what you did. lx_theo

Yes I did what I did. I laughed at a picture, not what it represents and no amount of projection on your part to attempt to change the reality of what I did will change that. :)

You laughed at picture with no idea what it stood for? You do realize that you have to account for what it represents (Sony not fairing well) when you see humor in there? Or are you really saying you are laughing at 100% visual parts of it and none of the context, words in it, or any idea associated with Sony or a boat sinking... ? God, you're stupid.

I knew exactly what the picture stood for. I acknowledged as much earlier. Is your memory that bad?

But what you can't get through your thick skull for some reason is that I wasn't laughing at what it represented, I was laughing at the image itself, which depicts no one losing their jobs or anything of the sort. Why? Because it's satire. Satire is meant to be funny.

I'll say it again in case you didn't understand it the first time (I know you're a bit slow in that regard).

Satire is meant to be funny.

You ever laughed at a political cartoon? How about an episode of the Daily Show or the Colbert report? If so, congratulations, you're just as morally bankrupt a person as you're trying to accuse me of being. If not, you must be a horribly sheltered and humorless person and I pity you. Either way, the lunacy of your argument is apparent.

So whatever. you'll probably continue to project your skewed projection of reality upon me. Good luck with that. :D

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#112 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Yes I did what I did. I laughed at a picture, not what it represents and no amount of projection on your part to attempt to change the reality of what I did will change that. :)

The_Game21x

You laughed at picture with no idea what it stood for? You do realize that you have to account for what it represents (Sony not fairing well) when you see humor in there? Or are you really saying you are laughing at 100% visual parts of it and none of the context, words in it, or any idea associated with Sony or a boat sinking... ? God, you're stupid.

I knew exactly what the picture stood for. I acknowledged as much earlier. Is your memory that bad?

But what you can't get through your thick skull for some reason is that I wasn't laughing at what it represented, I was laughing at the image itself, which depicts no one losing their jobs or anything of the sort. Why? Because it's satire. Satire is meant to be funny.

I'll say it again in case you didn't understand it the first time (I know you're a bit slow in that regard).

Satire is meant to be funny.

You ever laughed at a political cartoon? How about an episode of the Daily Show or the Colbert report? If so, congratulations, you're just as morally bankrupt a person as you're trying to accuse me of being. If not, you must be a horribly sheltered and humorless person and I pity you. Either way, the lunacy of your argument is apparent.

So whatever. you'll probably continue to project your skewed projection of reality upon me. Good luck with that. :D

And satire is making fun of the company and all the people potentially getting fired. Satire tends to be the **** humor since it exclusively makes fun of people in bad situations.

I wouldn't say I've never laughed at satire. I can say I don't find satire attacking a bunch of innocent people funny. Or do you think all satire is equal and the same? If it was satire making fun of the bad decisions that led to it, it may be funny to me. Instead, its a picture representing in its entirety the failing and potential total failure of a company and all the people who go down with it.

Then again, for all intents and purposes, you did just admit to laughing at what the satire was making fun of. Which was the potential failure of a huge company that employs man, many people.

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#113 loosingENDS
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Didnt Sony fire 30.000 emploees recently ?

30.000 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 30 fired by MS i suppose

It is 1000x more people fired by Sony

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#114 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] You laughed at picture with no idea what it stood for? You do realize that you have to account for what it represents (Sony not fairing well) when you see humor in there? Or are you really saying you are laughing at 100% visual parts of it and none of the context, words in it, or any idea associated with Sony or a boat sinking... ? God, you're stupid.lx_theo

I knew exactly what the picture stood for. I acknowledged as much earlier. Is your memory that bad?

But what you can't get through your thick skull for some reason is that I wasn't laughing at what it represented, I was laughing at the image itself, which depicts no one losing their jobs or anything of the sort. Why? Because it's satire. Satire is meant to be funny.

I'll say it again in case you didn't understand it the first time (I know you're a bit slow in that regard).

Satire is meant to be funny.

You ever laughed at a political cartoon? How about an episode of the Daily Show or the Colbert report? If so, congratulations, you're just as morally bankrupt a person as you're trying to accuse me of being. If not, you must be a horribly sheltered and humorless person and I pity you. Either way, the lunacy of your argument is apparent.

So whatever. you'll probably continue to project your skewed projection of reality upon me. Good luck with that. :D

And satire is making fun of the company and all the people potentially getting fired. Satire tends to be the **** humor since it exclusively makes fun of people in bad situations.

I wouldn't say I've never laughed at satire. I can say I don't find satire attacking a bunch of innocent people funny. Or do you think all satire is equal and the same? If it was satire making fun of the bad decisions that led to it, it may be funny to me. Instead, its a picture representing in its entirety the failing and potential total failure of a company and all the people who go down with it.

Then again, for all intents and purposes, you did just admit to laughing at what the satire was making fun of. Which was the potential failure of a huge company that employs man, many people.

And just like I predicted, you continue to project your version of reality onto me because you simply cannot accept that I laughed at a funny picture and would rather paint me as some horrible, twisted person that derives pleasure from people losing their jobs. Cute. Expected, but still cute.

And I admitted no such thing. I laughed at a satirical picture that I found funny, not at what it was satirizing and not the notion of people losing their jobs. How many times do I have to say this before you get it? Or are you just so unbelievably dense that you're completely incapable of understanding the words I'm saying?

Or, you're just willfully blind to what I'm saying purely so you can continue to project your idiotic version of reality on to me simply because that's what you want people to believe.

I think the last option is what's really happening here. :wink:

But whatever, this has been a collossal waste of my time and I'm finished with it. Continue to spin what I did into what you want to think I did and paint me in whatever way you like. I've said more than what I've needed to say and quite frankly, if you still want to continue with your projecting, fine. I can't force you to not be stupid and make actual arguments rather than projecting what you want to think upon reality.

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#115 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I knew exactly what the picture stood for. I acknowledged as much earlier. Is your memory that bad?

But what you can't get through your thick skull for some reason is that I wasn't laughing at what it represented, I was laughing at the image itself, which depicts no one losing their jobs or anything of the sort. Why? Because it's satire. Satire is meant to be funny.

I'll say it again in case you didn't understand it the first time (I know you're a bit slow in that regard).

Satire is meant to be funny.

You ever laughed at a political cartoon? How about an episode of the Daily Show or the Colbert report? If so, congratulations, you're just as morally bankrupt a person as you're trying to accuse me of being. If not, you must be a horribly sheltered and humorless person and I pity you. Either way, the lunacy of your argument is apparent.

So whatever. you'll probably continue to project your skewed projection of reality upon me. Good luck with that. :D

The_Game21x

And satire is making fun of the company and all the people potentially getting fired. Satire tends to be the **** humor since it exclusively makes fun of people in bad situations.

I wouldn't say I've never laughed at satire. I can say I don't find satire attacking a bunch of innocent people funny. Or do you think all satire is equal and the same? If it was satire making fun of the bad decisions that led to it, it may be funny to me. Instead, its a picture representing in its entirety the failing and potential total failure of a company and all the people who go down with it.

Then again, for all intents and purposes, you did just admit to laughing at what the satire was making fun of. Which was the potential failure of a huge company that employs man, many people.

And just like I predicted, you continue to project your version of reality onto me because you simply cannot accept that I laughed at a funny picture and would rather paint me as some horrible, twisted person that derives pleasure from people losing their jobs. Cute. Expected, but still cute.

And I admitted no such thing. I laughed at a satirical picture that I found funny, not at what it was satirizing and not the notion of people losing their jobs. How many times do I have to say this before you get it? Or are you just so unbelievably dense that you're completely incapable of understanding the words I'm saying?

Or, you're just willfully blind to what I'm saying purely so you can continue to project your idiotic version of reality on to me simply because that's what you want people to believe.

I think the last option is what's really happening here. :wink:

But whatever, this has been a collossal waste of my time and I'm finished with it. Continue to spin what I did into what you want to think I did and paint me in whatever way you like. I've said more than what I've needed to say and quite frankly, if you still want to continue with your projecting, fine. I can't force you to not be stupid and make actual arguments rather than projecting what you want to think upon reality.

HAHAHAHA. Okay, how sad of you. So what did you laugh at? The satire of a company failing? Because that happens to be people losing their jobs. Do you realize that there is nothing else it can be satirical of? Do you realize that the satire is so blunt in the picture that it leaves almost no room for interpretation? How thick can you be? You sit here, claiming you are laughing at the satire of a picture that only has the one implication. You also claim you are somehow, magically, never laughed at the things the picture satirized. So which is it? Oh, and you might want to avoid describing yourself as sick and twisted. I only really think its negative and hypocritical. You just seem to want to take it to another level for some reason or another. Maybe its part of a hypocritical morality. I don't know.
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#116 ReadingRainbow4
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I guess Kinect and Job security do not go hand in hand.

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#117 kuraimen
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as i already said, you claimed it first, unfortunately your evidence was rejected because it was not a thread about a studio closing or people losing their jobs.sts106mat
You didn't say lems were not celebrating people losing jobs you said lems didn't celebrate Sony going broke which is what I said and the links I provided prove that. Here let me refresh your selective memory. [QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lems have been celebrating all year that Sony is going broke :|

any lems that have "celebrated" that, have been lambasted by other lems and hermits. try harder failed troll.

So are you going to cowardly continue with your hypocrisy or twisting what you say or are you gonna man up for once? Also you claimed as if all lems lambasted other lems for doing such things and that's hardly the case when you can show only one.
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#118 KiZZo1
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I guess Kinect and Job security do not go hand in hand.

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Yeah, not until lems start buying their Kinect games.

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#120 2Chalupas
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So now instead of: Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable Lems have to look forward to, Halo, Forza, Halo, Forza, Halo, Forza, Halo, Forza
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#121 donalbane
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I think Peter Molyneux left lionhead because of trolls on forums like this talking trash about Fable The Journey before laying eyes on the gameplay.
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#122 The_Game21x
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So now instead of: Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable Lems have to look forward to, Halo, Forza, Halo, Forza, Halo, Forza, Halo, Forza2Chalupas

A series of great games? Sounds good to me. :)

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#123 mariokart64fan
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say what you want , nintendo's trap is working to perfection , ms and sony bit on the play action and lost

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#124 blackace
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It seems that 360's flagship this year - Fable: The Journey failed to help folks at Lionhead keep their jobs. Analogies with Rare and the consequences of their proximity to Kinect development are inevitable.

Other questions arise too - do lems buy their highly rated exclusives?

The story: The Microsoft Lays Off Undisclosed Number of Lionhead Studios Employees

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I think Lems buy more of their exclusive games then the cows. Studios usually do left several staff members go when a game is complete and there isn't any further work for them. That's normal business practice with the economy the way it is. This has been happening at a lot of different studios. Lionhead is just one of the many. Then 5-6 months from now you will see new job openings at the same company just before a new game is announced.
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#125 blackace
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Obviously, lems hyped this game up all year, guess they forgot to buy it, doubt anyone brought this game infact just another flop to add to 360's list

It joins forza horizon.

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Hhhmm.. the game was hyped at "AA" and it scored an 8.0 here at Gamespot. http://www.gamespot.com/fable-the-journey/ So no, it didn't flop. I believe Forza Horizons was also hyped at "AA". and it got an 8.5. So neither of these exclusive games flopped. Sorry to disappoint you.
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#126 blackace
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All lems got duped into buying Kinect but non use it. M$ sold them the ultimate dust collecting device.kuraimen
I still use mine. Was playing Kinect Sports 2 the other day. Was planning of getting the Gun Stringer off of EBay before the end of the year. I think you are talking about the MOVE. Truly, no one uses that thing at all. Most cows didn't even buy it and the ones who did no longer uses it. Even Sony has given up on the Move. Did they even announce any MOVE games at the E3?
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#127 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]All lems got duped into buying Kinect but non use it. M$ sold them the ultimate dust collecting device.blackace
I still use mine. Was playing Kinect Sports 2 the other day. Was planning of getting the Gun Stringer off of EBay before the end of the year. I think you are talking about the MOVE. Truly, no one uses that thing at all. Most cows didn't even buy it and the ones who did no longer uses it. Even Sony has given up on the Move. Did they even announce any MOVE games at the E3?

Well cows know better than to support useless gimmicks then.
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#128 FireSpirit117
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Wow, trying to claim "ownage" from people losing their jobs. Tasteless AND petty. :roll:
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#129 delta3074
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It's sad if you ask me, i understand SONY getting rid of people because they are strapped for cash but MS are in profit, i don't see why any company thats actually making profit should get rid of there workers.
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#130 CKYguy25
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Kinect is still a huge waste of money

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#131 HaloPimp978
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Everything is better with Kinect after all even at laying people off.

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#132 JohnnyCageMK
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[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]So now instead of: Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable Lems have to look forward to, Halo, Forza, Halo, Forza, Halo, Forza, Halo, Forza

No we still get Gears too.
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#133 OhSnapitz
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Wow, trying to claim "ownage" from people losing their jobs. Tasteless AND petty. :roll:FireSpirit117
Exactly what I said earlier ... How low can someone stoop.
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#134 CKYguy25
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Everything is better with Kinect after all even at laying people off.

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i dunno about that one

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#135 FireSpirit117
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[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]Wow, trying to claim "ownage" from people losing their jobs. Tasteless AND petty. :roll:OhSnapitz
Exactly what I said earlier ... How low can someone stoop.

You kind of have to assume there was a high point to begin with, though.