Kinect... This isn't your grandfathers Eyetoy.

Pretty impressive tech and an excellent interview worth the full 3 page read plus there will be a part 2.

Discuss.

The Story.

Just the last paragraph or two..

For the full read:http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-kinect-tech-interview

"Project Gotham Racing is made to be much more approachable. More arcadey in its driving, less simulation. It allows for a different type of experience. The same is true here, and I'll use the two examples... Dance Central is made to be a simulation type game. You're simulating dancing – you want it to be precise, you want it to be real-time and guess what? If you're not good at it, you're just going to suck at dancing...

"Take Kinect Adventures, the needle moves to a different side. It is made to be a fun, simple, approachable game that gets people acquainted with the platform. Those remain toolsets - paint colours and paintbrushes that game designers, the storytellers, get to choose. I think you'll see that the platform has range, that it has the range to go down a more real-time simulation, all the way out to a less simulation sort of game."

The full GI.bizinterview is well worth a read, with a second part coming tomorrow. While Alex Kipman expertly side-steps a fundamental question or two, his comments do serve to remind us that Kinect is truly a remarkable evolution in console gaming. The sheer technological achievement in bringing a fully featured real-time motion capture system to the Xbox 360, with support for multiple players and without sapping too much in the way of the console's resources is something of a miracle that perhaps gets overlooked.

But while cool tech is one thing, questions still need to be answered concerning the quality of the gameplay experience. Does the first wave of Kinect titles deliver? The first Eurogamer Kinect reviews hit tomorrow...

kinnect is exactly the same as the eyetoy.

and no matter how many facts or how much proof you post. i will never pay any attention to it and continue to believe what i want to believe.

So this means PGR is now becoming a bastardised kinect title..if so i have totally lost all faith in well.....MS.

connect is exactly the same as the eyetoy.

and no matter how many facts or how much proof you post. i will never pay any attention to it and continue to believe what i want to believe.

So this means PGR is now becoming a bastardised kinect title..if so i have totally lost all faith in well.....MS.

razgriz_101

He just used it as an example. Read the article.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

So this means PGR is now becoming a bastardised kinect title..if so i have totally lost all faith in well.....MS.

waltefmoney

He just used it as an example. Read the article.

Certain genres/titles just don't translate well to Kinect. Driving? Are you serious? Hold out your arms for an extended period of time? No thanks. MS doesn't realize that a large portion of people play games for entertainment and to unwind, all at the same time. Almost all forms of motion control don't allow for this. Bring in more advanced force feedback--I'd much prefer that than having people watch me do the robot through the window.

I wonder why is M$ not willing to let people review it then :roll:... Maybe because is basically the EyeToykuraimen

kinnect is exactly the same as the eyetoy.

and no matter how many facts or how much proof you post. i will never pay any attention to it and continue to believe what i want to believe.

dog_dirt

If I asked my grandfather what his eyetoy was, he'd probably tell me something dirty :P

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]I wonder why is M$ not willing to let people review it then :roll:... Maybe because is basically the EyeToymonson21502

kinnect is exactly the same as the eyetoy.

and no matter how many facts or how much proof you post. i will never pay any attention to it and continue to believe what i want to believe.

dog_dirt

I loled at this part

If I asked my grandfather what his eyetoy was, he'd probably tell me something dirty :P

vadicta

If I asked my grandfather what his eyetoy was, he'd probably tell me something dirty :P

vadicta

Better than showing you something dirty, amirite?

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kinnect is exactly the same as the eyetoy.

and no matter how many facts or how much proof you post. i will never pay any attention to it and continue to believe what i want to believe.

ohthemanatee

I loled at this part

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[QUOTE="dog_dirt"]

kinnect is exactly the same as the eyetoy.

and no matter how many facts or how much proof you post. i will never pay any attention to it and continue to believe what i want to believe.

BodyElite

I loled at this part

I think it's quite obvious the dude's being sarcastic.

[QUOTE="monson21502"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]I wonder why is M$ not willing to let people review it then :roll:... Maybe because is basically the EyeToykuraimen

[QUOTE="vadicta"]

If I asked my grandfather what his eyetoy was, he'd probably tell me something dirty :P

waltefmoney

Better than showing you something dirty, amirite?

Exactly how accurate is Kinect when mapping the body? I sense massive amounts of youtube videos coming out...

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[QUOTE="vadicta"]

If I asked my grandfather what his eyetoy was, he'd probably tell me something dirty :P

Heirren

Better than showing you something dirty, amirite?

Exactly how accurate is Kinect when mapping the body? I sense massive amounts of youtube videos coming out...

Wink. Teh future is not looking bright.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]I wonder why is M$ not willing to let people review it then :roll:... Maybe because is basically the EyeToymonson21502

The gaming world is laughing at Kinect, with good reason.

I had an eyetoy and it sucked bad. Kinect will be much better than the eyetoy and its basic and boring games.lhughey

Yep so much different :roll:

JUST IN!!! CONFIRMED! PGR has been Kinected!

So this pretty much confirms the next PGR to be a Kinect title.

What a shame.........

JUST IN!!! CONFIRMED! PGR has been Kinected!

So this pretty much confirms the next PGR to be a Kinect title.

What a shame.........

Blazerdt47

Really? Saying "the difference between this Kinect game and this Kinect game can be as big as the difference between Forza and PGR" is confirming the next PGR to be a Kinect title?

JUST IN!!! CONFIRMED! PGR has been Kinected!

So this pretty much confirms the next PGR to be a Kinect title.

What a shame.........

Blazerdt47

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

JUST IN!!! CONFIRMED! PGR has been Kinected!

So this pretty much confirms the next PGR to be a Kinect title.

What a shame.........

waltefmoney

Really? Saying "the difference between this Kinect game and this Kinect game can be as big as the difference between Forza and PGR" is confirming the next PGR to be a Kinect title?

What I'm saying is that MS will no doubt praise the Kinect controls of the next PGR and they will obviously encourage you to use Kinect controls. But of course their will be standard controls. With all the focus MS is putting on Kinect, what makes you think they care about what the "core gamer" wants anymore?

The gaming world is laughing at Kinect, with good reason.Kan0nF0dder

I'm still trying to figure out why so many people want to see this fail.

What I'm saying is that MS will no doubt praise the Kinect controls of the next PGR and they will obviously encourage you to use Kinect controls. But of course their will be standard controls. With all the focus MS is putting on Kinect, what makes you think they care about what the "core gamer" wants anymore?

Blazerdt47

Nothing, but that guy in the interview didn't even hint at PGR Kinect being even remotely possible. He just dropped the name when talking about the difference in designing a simulator and an arcade game.

Kinect is just an elaborate Eye Toy or camera. Limited it is without the ability to do shooters or more than 2p games.

Kinect is just an elaborate Eye Toy or camera. Limited it is without the ability to do shooters or more than 2p games.

clr84651

And Move is just a glorified Wiimote. And the sky is blue. And I like pie. Why are we listing facts?

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

What I'm saying is that MS will no doubt praise the Kinect controls of the next PGR and they will obviously encourage you to use Kinect controls. But of course their will be standard controls. With all the focus MS is putting on Kinect, what makes you think they care about what the "core gamer" wants anymore?

waltefmoney

Nothing, but that guy in the interview didn't even hint at PGR Kinect being even remotely possible. He just dropped the name when talking about the difference in designing a simulator and an arcade game.

Forza is a simulator and MS used Kinect controls for it.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

What I'm saying is that MS will no doubt praise the Kinect controls of the next PGR and they will obviously encourage you to use Kinect controls. But of course their will be standard controls. With all the focus MS is putting on Kinect, what makes you think they care about what the "core gamer" wants anymore?

Blazerdt47

Nothing, but that guy in the interview didn't even hint at PGR Kinect being even remotely possible. He just dropped the name when talking about the difference in designing a simulator and an arcade game.

Forza is a simulator and MS used Kinect controls for it.

You mean Turn 10 showed a tech demo of a few Forza mini-games.

Kinect is just an elaborate Eye Toy or camera. Limited it is without the ability to do shooters or more than 2p games.

clr84651

Is this true???..It can do shooters right??

The tech itself im sure is plenty impressive for what it is, but its all about the actual end experince and the games.

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Kinect is just an elaborate Eye Toy or camera. Limited it is without the ability to do shooters or more than 2p games.

Promised_Trini

Is this true???..It can do shooters right??

Pew pew shooters. At least on-rail shooters with the Wii or Move are functional unlike Kinect's

This is a FPS on Kinect

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[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Kinect is just an elaborate Eye Toy or camera. Limited it is without the ability to do shooters or more than 2p games.

kuraimen

Is this true???..It can do shooters right??

Pew pew shooters. At least on-rail shooters with the Wii or Move are functional unlike Kinect's

This is a FPS on Kinect

Wow this can't be true..One my friends that I trained with at the police college here Toronto is getting Kinect just for shooters..I feel sorry for him:|

Wow this can't be true..One my friends that I trained with at the police college here Toronto is getting Kinect just for shooters..I feel sorry for him:|

Promised_Trini

That's probably not a wise move until we see how shooters are going to play out. I'm buying Kinect, but certainly not for the shooters.

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Kinect is just an elaborate Eye Toy or camera. Limited it is without the ability to do shooters or more than 2p games.

Promised_Trini

Is this true???..It can do shooters right??

There is a trailer and info in the link.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/kinect-exclusive-steel-battalion-heavy-armor-trailer-debuts/

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Wow this can't be true..One my friends that I trained with at the police college here Toronto is getting Kinect just for shooters..I feel sorry for him:|

standarddamage

That's probably not a wise move until we see how shooters are going to play out. I'm buying Kinect, but certainly not for the shooters.

Yeah for sure its not a wise move I must warn him.

[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Kinect is just an elaborate Eye Toy or camera. Limited it is without the ability to do shooters or more than 2p games.

kuraimen

Is this true???..It can do shooters right??

Pew pew shooters. At least on-rail shooters with the Wii or Move are functional unlike Kinect's

This is a FPS on Kinect

PGR with no gas or brakes and you have to hold your hands out in front of you for the entire race. Awesome. :roll:

"Xbox! Powerslide!"

kinnect is exactly the same as the eyetoy.

and no matter how many facts or how much proof you post. i will never pay any attention to it and continue to believe what i want to believe.

dog_dirt

They are not exactly the same, they are almost the same. The main difference between Kinect and Eye Toy is that Kinect reads movements in 3D while Eye Toy is just 2D, that's why the Move controller is needed.

connect is exactly the same as the eyetoy.

and no matter how many facts or how much proof you post. i will never pay any attention to it and continue to believe what i want to believe.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I expect from Kinect. Other than party games, I still have yet to hear a Kinect idea that sounds reasonable or fun. Holding your hands up to pretend to drive might be fun for a few minutes, but the lack of precision would prevent any serious racing. No one wants to use finger guns.hellhund

Child of Eden and Rise of Nightmares are two games worth a second look.

So this means PGR is now becoming a bastardised kinect title..if so i have totally lost all faith in well.....MS.

razgriz_101

[QUOTE="monson21502"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]I wonder why is M$ not willing to let people review it then :roll:... Maybe because is basically the EyeToykuraimen