Kinect vs Playstation Eyetoy

Eyetoy cant do what Kinect does, Sony themselves said it when they released Singstar Dance

Obviously two "camera" peripherals for a console are going to have some similarities but Kinect is so farahead of the Eyetoy its laughable.

Plus that article is old.

Obviously two "camera" peripherals for a console are going to have some similarities but Kinect is so farahead of the Eyetoy its laughable.

Plus that article is old.

balfe1990

Eyetoy cant do what Kinect does, Sony themselves said it when they released Singstar Dance

gamer-adam1

Obviously two "camera" peripherals for a console are going to have some similarities but Kinect is so farahead of the Eyetoy its laughable.

Plus that article is old.

balfe1990

Dance Central

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgmScu2D1y0

SingStar Dance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFIODMnzEmU&feature=related

note: SingStar doesnt know if your doing the dance right or wrong because the camera cant read depth

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

Obviously two "camera" peripherals for a console are going to have some similarities but Kinect is so farahead of the Eyetoy its laughable.

Plus that article is old.

Kane04

and yet it still has better games then move and the eyetoy

sony must've been really dumb for sitting on a gold mine and not taking advantage of it

where is the article about Move being the same as the wii-mote? guess that's not a big deal to you

and yet it still has better games then move and the eyetoy

sony must've been really dumb for sitting on a gold mine and not taking advantage of it

ohthemanatee

The only game that has scored better than a Eyetoy/Move game is Dance Central and that's relative since you can play 8.5 games with the Move like Heavy Rain and RE5.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

and yet it still has better games then move and the eyetoy

sony must've been really dumb for sitting on a gold mine and not taking advantage of it

kuraimen

The only game that has scored better than a Eyetoy/Move game is Dance Central and that's relative since you can play 8.5 games with the Move like Heavy Rain and RE5.

why in the world would I want to play Resi 5 and Heavy Rain with move?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

and yet it still has better games then move and the eyetoy

sony must've been really dumb for sitting on a gold mine and not taking advantage of it

ohthemanatee

The only game that has scored better than a Eyetoy/Move game is Dance Central and that's relative since you can play 8.5 games with the Move like Heavy Rain and RE5.

why in the world would I want to play Resi 5 and Heavy Rain with move?

saying kinect = eye is like saying gameboy advance = psp.

sure the basic idea is the same but one's more advanced than the other

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

kuraimen

why in the world would I want to play Resi 5 and Heavy Rain with move?

notice the flaw in your argument, I asked: "why in the world would I want to play Resi 5 and Heavy Rain with move?"

I didn't ask why would I want to play Resi 5 or Heavy Rain

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

Eyetoy cant do what Kinect does, Sony themselves said it when they released Singstar Dance

Supermaester

where is the article about Move being the same as the wii-mote? guess that's not a big deal to you

chikenfriedrice

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

and yet it still has better games then move and the eyetoy

sony must've been really dumb for sitting on a gold mine and not taking advantage of it

ohthemanatee

The only game that has scored better than a Eyetoy/Move game is Dance Central and that's relative since you can play 8.5 games with the Move like Heavy Rain and RE5.

why in the world would I want to play Resi 5 and Heavy Rain with move?

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

where is the article about Move being the same as the wii-mote? guess that's not a big deal to you

Supermaester

people already know that Move is the same as the Wii-mote? that's good to know

and yet it still has better games then move and the eyetoy

sony must've been really dumb for sitting on a gold mine and not taking advantage of it

ohthemanatee

[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

where is the article about Move being the same as the wii-mote? guess that's not a big deal to you

Supermaester

so you are breaking the news about Kinect v. Eyetoy? Cuz I'm pretty sure I heard this argument before and it didn't stop it from selling like crazy.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

The only game that has scored better than a Eyetoy/Move game is Dance Central and that's relative since you can play 8.5 games with the Move like Heavy Rain and RE5.

lx_theo

why in the world would I want to play Resi 5 and Heavy Rain with move?

again, why would I want to play the game with move?

at least dance central is something that you can't really play with a regular controller, and for better or worse neither does kinectimals work on a regular controller

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

why in the world would I want to play Resi 5 and Heavy Rain with move?

ohthemanatee

notice the flaw in your argument, I asked: "why in the world would I want to play Resi 5 and Heavy Rain with move?"

I didn't ask why would I want to play Resi 5 or Heavy Rain

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

and yet it still has better games then move and the eyetoy

sony must've been really dumb for sitting on a gold mine and not taking advantage of it

Kane04

For me it doesn't work, i'm european, takes more than a picture in a fries pack on a fast food restaurant to make me buy it.

oh please, all it takes is sony to show off move on Secret Story (which they do... over and over again) to get people to buy it don't try to pass the European consumer off as more inteligent

and all it took were some terrible Wii commercials for Sony's dominance in Portugal to go from 80% to 50% market share between 2008 and 2010

so please explain to me how the European consumer is a smarter consumer?

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Maybe because some people want? Why in the world would I want to play Kinectimals and Dance Central :|kuraimen

notice the flaw in your argument, I asked: "why in the world would I want to play Resi 5 and Heavy Rain with move?"

I didn't ask why would I want to play Resi 5 or Heavy Rain

last time I checked gamespot didn't review the move editions of those games

Things the kinect can do the playstation eye cant do:

Mapping movements to an in game character.

Recognizing multiple players.

Skeletal mapping.

Collect depth information (bowling game is impossible on playstation eye)

Limitations the playstation eye has the kinect doesnt:

Cant have movement in the background.

Cannot play in low light conditions.

Have to wear clothing that doesnt clash with the background.

Requires heavy calibration.

.... and after all that, its still far less accurate.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

notice the flaw in your argument, I asked: "why in the world would I want to play Resi 5 and Heavy Rain with move?"

I didn't ask why would I want to play Resi 5 or Heavy Rain

ohthemanatee

last time I checked gamespot didn't review the move editions of those games

So? it is still a 8.5 game that can be played with Move. kuraimen

Better yet why would I want to play with move at all? it might work on the awkward animations heavy Rain had. but on a shooter? hell no, have you tried playing an FPS with a Wiimote or Wiimote plus?

so yeah, why would I want to play Resi 5 with move?

And, again, the only Kinect-only game above a Move or Eyetoy-only game is Dance Central which is ridiculous to use it to cry Kinect as the much superior device much more when it also has the lowest scoring game of both motion devices: Fighters Uncaged.kuraimen

you're not forced to play bad games I do know that the games that were made specifically for move so far have been more lackluster then those created for Kinect

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

and yet it still has better games then move and the eyetoy

sony must've been really dumb for sitting on a gold mine and not taking advantage of it

kuraimen

The only game that has scored better than a Eyetoy/Move game is Dance Central and that's relative since you can play 8.5 games with the Move like Heavy Rain and RE5.

Too bad Heavy Rain and RE5 play much better on a controller. Its just a gimmick. If anyone is given the option to use Move or a controller for those games, im betting that 99% will chose the controller.

Also on topic. the dance central/sing star comparison should have ended any debate that Eye Toy can compete with KInect. They both are cameras and thats where the similarities end.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

and yet it still has better games then move and the eyetoy

sony must've been really dumb for sitting on a gold mine and not taking advantage of it

Fizzman

The only game that has scored better than a Eyetoy/Move game is Dance Central and that's relative since you can play 8.5 games with the Move like Heavy Rain and RE5.

Too bad Heavy Rain and RE5 play much better on a controller. Its just a gimmick. If anyone is given the option to use Move or a controller for those games, im betting that 99% will chose the controller.

that's my point, I'll admit I haven't played any of them with Move and I'm willing to admit that Heavy Rain might work on move

But Resident Evil 5? hell no, all those Wii shooters including goldeneye were proof enough for me that i'd rather have a Keyboard and mouse or a controller

Mapping movements to an in game character.

Recognizing multiple players.

Skeletal mapping.

Collect depth information (bowling game is impossible on playstation eye)

markinthedark

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] So? it is still a 8.5 game that can be played with Move. ohthemanatee

Better yet why would I want to play with move at all? it might work on the awkward animations heavy Rain had. but on a shooter? hell no, have you tried playing an FPS with a Wiimote or Wiimote plus?

so yeah, why would I want to play Resi 5 with move?

And, again, the only Kinect-only game above a Move or Eyetoy-only game is Dance Central which is ridiculous to use it to cry Kinect as the much superior device much more when it also has the lowest scoring game of both motion devices: Fighters Uncaged.kuraimen

you're not forced to play bad games I do know that the games that were made specifically for move so far have been more lackluster then those created for Kinect

EyeToy. It's like Kinect but works with games that I actually want to play. WOW!

Why do you continue to ignore all the games that can be played with the Eyetoy and Move that are good? :| Remember that this conversation started with the Eyetoy now you are limiting to games with Move to twist your point to have some validity?kuraimen

i'm simply saying, regardless of which is the better technology the fact is for now Kinect has the better games

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

and yet it still has better games then move and the eyetoy

sony must've been really dumb for sitting on a gold mine and not taking advantage of it

Fizzman

The only game that has scored better than a Eyetoy/Move game is Dance Central and that's relative since you can play 8.5 games with the Move like Heavy Rain and RE5.

Too bad Heavy Rain and RE5 play much better on a controller. Its just a gimmick. If anyone is given the option to use Move or a controller for those games, im betting that 99% will chose the controller.

Also on topic. the dance central/sing star comparison should have ended any debate that Eye Toy can compete with KInect. They both are cameras and thats where the similarities end.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Why do you continue to ignore all the games that can be played with the Eyetoy and Move that are good? :| Remember that this conversation started with the Eyetoy now you are limiting to games with Move to twist your point to have some validity?ohthemanatee

i'm simply saying, regardless of which is the better technology the fact is for now Kinect has the better games

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

Mapping movements to an in game character.

Recognizing multiple players.

Skeletal mapping.

Collect depth information (bowling game is impossible on playstation eye)

kuraimen

They are limitation i gave based on me actually understanding the underlying technology behind the devices.

Antigrav is not mapping movements to an in game character.... clap your hands and see if your character does it. It looks for pixel changes and controls the character similar to a dpad based on those pixel changes.

And yes there is a bowling game for the move... because the playstation eye needs the move in order to process depth information. Sony didnt release the move for fun... they released the move because the PSeye had massive limitations like the inability to process depth information. If the Eye could do everything kinect can do... there would be no move.

And recognizing people is different than tracking different people. Its capable of facial recognition... but its not capable of telling your leg apart from your buddy's arm. In fact it cant even tell your own leg apart from your own arm.

i dont care how many awards kinect have won. imho the move is still better because its hardcore and doesnt make you look silly while playing

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Why do you continue to ignore all the games that can be played with the Eyetoy and Move that are good? :| Remember that this conversation started with the Eyetoy now you are limiting to games with Move to twist your point to have some validity?kuraimen

i'm simply saying, regardless of which is the better technology the fact is for now Kinect has the better games

Funny, this is starting to sound like the lemming defense that PC/360 games count as well

Im not trying to defend Kinect, its horrible but to say that Eyetoy is even comparable or just as good as Kinect is laughable and a flat out lie. The tech in Kinect is superior to Eyetoy.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

Mapping movements to an in game character.

Recognizing multiple players.

Skeletal mapping.

Collect depth information (bowling game is impossible on playstation eye)

markinthedark

They are limitation i gave based on me actually understanding the underlying technology behind the devices.

Antigrav is not mapping movements to an in game character.... clap your hands and see if your character does it. It looks for pixel changes and controls the character similar to a dpad based on those pixel changes.

And yes there is a bowling game for the move... because the playstation eye needs the move in order to process depth information. Sony didnt release the move for fun... they released the move because the PSeye had massive limitations like the inability to process depth information. If the Eye could do everything kinect can do... there would be no move.

Im not trying to defend Kinect, its horrible but to say that Eyetoy is even comparable or just as good as Kinect is laughable and a flat out lie. The tech in Kinect is superior to Eyetoy.

Fizzman

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

i'm simply saying, regardless of which is the better technology the fact is for now Kinect has the better games

ohthemanatee

Funny, this is starting to sound like the lemming defense that PC/360 games count as well

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] The Eyetoy has mapped movements to an in game character check out AntiGrav game. Playstation Eye recognizing several people: http://www.diginfo.tv/2009/09/10/09-0272-r-en.php There's a bowling game playable with Move. The limitations are things you came up with or something? links?kuraimen

They are limitation i gave based on me actually understanding the underlying technology behind the devices.

Antigrav is not mapping movements to an in game character.... clap your hands and see if your character does it. It looks for pixel changes and controls the character similar to a dpad based on those pixel changes.

And yes there is a bowling game for the move... because the playstation eye needs the move in order to process depth information. Sony didnt release the move for fun... they released the move because the PSeye had massive limitations like the inability to process depth information. If the Eye could do everything kinect can do... there would be no move.

no it has all the things i listed over the eyetoy. Go try to play it in the dark. Go try to play it in a white room with a white shirt on. Go try to play it with a fan running in the background. Go try to play a multiplayer game.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Im not trying to defend Kinect, its horrible but to say that Eyetoy is even comparable or just as good as Kinect is laughable and a flat out lie. The tech in Kinect is superior to Eyetoy.

kuraimen

I said tech, but ill biteeven thoughyouare trying to change the subject.

There hasn't been a single good Eyetoy game, and its been how many years since its came out? Kinect has Dance Central which isn't my kind of game, but clearly its very good.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] If we compare scores and Move/Eyetoy only games then Kinect has ONE better game not better gameSSS.kuraimen

Funny, this is starting to sound like the lemming defense that PC/360 games count as well

but not controller exclusive it seems

in fact i'd wager that the games you mentioned run better on a regular controller

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

Funny, this is starting to sound like the lemming defense that PC/360 games count as well

ohthemanatee

but not controller exclusive it seems

in fact i'd wager that the games you mentioned run better on a regular controller