Kinect? What happened?

I mean it came out, and all the hype died. I played both the kinect and the move. When playing with friends the kinect was more enjoyable. But it felt really weird; I'm a fan of the buttons. I believe that buttons are essential in video games. In the "combat' and "action" games, move really excelled. The games that involved guns, swords, and bows were precise and accurate. I can't wait to play that magic game (lol) that was showed off at E3.

However, i think that both died and fast. They had their hype and then after their release date, no more.

What do you guys think?

Where have you been? The Kinect is selling like crazy. KC_Hokie

1 million in 10 days. That's 1 million sold not 'shipped' (*cough*SONY*cough*).

1 million in 10 days. That's 1 million sold not 'shipped' (*cough*SONY*cough*).

KC_Hokie

False.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Where have you been? The Kinect is selling like crazy. JuarN18

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

1 million in 10 days. That's 1 million sold not 'shipped' (*cough*SONY*cough*).

Yangire

False.

1 million in 10 days. That's 1 million sold not 'shipped' (*cough*SONY*cough*).

KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

1 million in 10 days. That's 1 million sold not 'shipped' (*cough*SONY*cough*).

Yangire

False.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

1 million in 10 days. That's 1 million sold not 'shipped' (*cough*SONY*cough*).

JuarN18

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

1 million in 10 days. That's 1 million sold not 'shipped' (*cough*SONY*cough*).

JuarN18

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

1 million in 10 days. That's 1 million sold not 'shipped' (*cough*SONY*cough*).

Yangire

False.

That article is bullcrap....

"Microsoft's rival, Sony, declared that they sold 2.5 million Playstation Move units, 1M in the US, 1.5M in EU."

http://www.pcworld.com/article/208558/is_that_25_million_playstation_moves_shipped_or_sold.html

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Where have you been? The Kinect is selling like crazy. JuarN18

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

1 million in 10 days. That's 1 million sold not 'shipped' (*cough*SONY*cough*).

KC_Hokie

False.

It's impossible to track exact sales, the word "sold" is used loosely because it's simpler to understand. All companies use their shipped numbers as sales because they did sell that many to the retailers.

It's impossible to track exact sales, the word "sold" is used loosely because it's simpler to understand. All companies use their shipped numbers as sales because they did sell that many to the retailers.Gxgear

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Yangire"]

False.

Gxgear

It's impossible to track exact sales, the word "sold" is used loosely because it's simpler to understand. All companies use their shipped numbers as sales because they did sell that many to the retailers.

Can you stop... SHIPPED does NOT equal SOLD.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]In that very article it then says 'sold' not 'shipped'. KaoSXFACTOR

It's impossible to track exact sales, the word "sold" is used loosely because it's simpler to understand. All companies use their shipped numbers as sales because they did sell that many to the retailers.

Can you stop... SHIPPED does NOT equal SOLD.

That's exactly what I just said. :?

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]It's impossible to track exact sales, the word "sold" is used loosely because it's simpler to understand. All companies use their shipped numbers as sales because they did sell that many to the retailers.KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

It's impossible to track exact sales, the word "sold" is used loosely because it's simpler to understand. All companies use their shipped numbers as sales because they did sell that many to the retailers.

Gxgear

Can you stop... SHIPPED does NOT equal SOLD.

That's exactly what I just said. :?

No its not....

"All companies use their shipped numbers as sales"

You're implying that shipped to retailers is a sale, when its actually sold to the consumer that is considered a sale.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]It's impossible to track exact sales, the word "sold" is used loosely because it's simpler to understand. All companies use their shipped numbers as sales because they did sell that many to the retailers.Jynxzor

Except the millions that never get sold to consumers and get shipped back to the manufacturer right?

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

Can you stop... SHIPPED does NOT equal SOLD.

KaoSXFACTOR

That's exactly what I just said. :?

No its not....

"All companies use their shipped numbers as sales"

You're implying that shipped to retailers is a sale, when its actually sold to the consumer that is considered a sale.

I never said I believe that, or sales = shipped. I specifically said companies used shipped numbers because they can't track exact retail sales. Learn to read.

[QUOTE="JuarN18"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

1 million in 10 days. That's 1 million sold not 'shipped' (*cough*SONY*cough*).

KC_Hokie

I just got done playing Kenect at my buddies pretty fun may just have to pick one up sometime

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]It's impossible to track exact sales, the word "sold" is used loosely because it's simpler to understand. All companies use their shipped numbers as sales because they did sell that many to the retailers.KC_Hokie

It seems that Kinect has another game with a poor score: MotionSports. Look what is scored at GameSpot:

thom_maytees

guess you didnt see the only exclusive AAE title for next gen motion controllers in dance central, or Kinect Sports 7.5, or Kinectimals which scored the same as the lone highest scoring Move title Sports champions. Or the other 7.0s that Kinect got, oh lets not talk about that....

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

That's exactly what I just said. :?

Gxgear

No its not....

"All companies use their shipped numbers as sales"

You're implying that shipped to retailers is a sale, when its actually sold to the consumer that is considered a sale.

I never said I believe that, or sales = shipped. I specifically said companies used shipped numbers because they can't track exact retail sales. Learn to read.

Actually they CAN track exact retail sales, and do. It's what determines whether or not more items need to be shipped to the retailer. Have you ever heard of? Out of Stock?

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]No. The companies find out exactly how many are actually sold from retailers. KaoSXFACTOR

Except the millions that never get sold to consumers and get shipped back to the manufacturer right?

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="JuarN18"] i thought all companies only measured shipments

Cheesehead9099

What makes you think this?

I mean it came out, and all the hype died. I played both the kinect and the move. When playing with friends the kinect was more enjoyable. But it felt really weird; I'm a fan of the buttons. I believe that buttons are essential in video games. In the "combat' and "action" games, move really excelled. The games that involved guns, swords, and bows were precise and accurate. I can't wait to play that magic game (lol) that was showed off at E3.

However, i think that both died and fast. They had their hype and then after their release date, no more.

What do you guys think?

Hercol

I think you tried

http://hawtwired.com/blogs/news/archive/2010/11/17/704.aspx

this one too

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Kinect-Project-Natal-Xbox-360-msft,news-8876.html

1 million in 10 days. That's 1 million sold not 'shipped' (*cough*SONY*cough*).

KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

1 million in 10 days. That's 1 million sold not 'shipped' (*cough*SONY*cough*).

Chutebox

Good counter with no proof....

[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]No. MS almost always measures in sales while Sony loves to use 'shipped'.KaoSXFACTOR

What makes you think this?

Off-Topic: This is the first thread where i see Kaos and PNF together! :lol:

1.5 is nothing considering the user base of the 360

and the sales of wii mote

/wii

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"] ahahhaha you really believe this? MS has NO way of knowing exactly how many units they 'sold' to customers. It's always 'shipped' because they SELL the units to the stores. It's the equivalent of 'sold', really.Chutebox

What makes you think this?

It's common sense that they most certainly can track every single unit sold all over the world because they all have a serial number. They can use that to determine whether the item was sold or stolen.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

What makes you think this?

KaoSXFACTOR

It's common sense that they most certainly can track every single unit sold all over the world because they all have a serial number. They can use that to determine whether the item was sold or stolen.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

No its not....

"All companies use their shipped numbers as sales"

You're implying that shipped to retailers is a sale, when its actually sold to the consumer that is considered a sale.

KaoSXFACTOR

I never said I believe that, or sales = shipped. I specifically said companies used shipped numbers because they can't track exact retail sales. Learn to read.

Actually they CAN track exact retail sales, and do. It's what determines whether or not more items need to be shipped to the retailer. Have you ever heard of? Out of Stock?

Wait, so you were wrong?

Now, onto your NEW agrument. Let's say Microsoft can track sales down to the digit. Even then they won't do it because there's nothing to be gained wasting time and resources to gather up-to-date numbers from thousands upon thousands of individual retailers, just to give fanboys something to gloat about. Microsoft is a multi-billion-dollar corporation, not your local Gamestop doing inventory checks.

So yes, Microsoft CAN track exact retail sales, if they throw out every good business sense they've ever had. :?

How about we not care about Kinect and Move and stop talking about it.This was the worst War (In my opinion.) Lets throw this war away and focus on games.... is that hard to ask!??!! :?

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

I never said I believe that, or sales = shipped. I specifically said companies used shipped numbers because they can't track exact retail sales. Learn to read.

Gxgear

Actually they CAN track exact retail sales, and do. It's what determines whether or not more items need to be shipped to the retailer. Have you ever heard of? Out of Stock?

Wait, so you were wrong?

Now, onto your NEW agrument. Let's say Microsoft can track sales down to the digit. Even then they won't do it because there's nothing to be gained wasting time and resources to gather up-to-date numbers from thousands upon thousands of individual retailers, just to give fanboys something to gloat about. Microsoft is a multi-billion-dollar corporation, not your local Gamestop doing inventory checks.

So yes, Microsoft CAN track exact retail sales, if they throw out every good business sense they've ever had. :?

So I'm wrong, and yet you're agreeing that Microsoft CAN track exact retail sales? Is that it?

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

Actually they CAN track exact retail sales, and do. It's what determines whether or not more items need to be shipped to the retailer. Have you ever heard of? Out of Stock?

KaoSXFACTOR

Wait, so you were wrong?

Now, onto your NEW agrument. Let's say Microsoft can track sales down to the digit. Even then they won't do it because there's nothing to be gained wasting time and resources to gather up-to-date numbers from thousands upon thousands of individual retailers, just to give fanboys something to gloat about. Microsoft is a multi-billion-dollar corporation, not your local Gamestop doing inventory checks.

So yes, Microsoft CAN track exact retail sales, if they throw out every good business sense they've ever had. :?

So I'm wrong, and yet you're agreeing that Microsoft CAN track exact retail sales? Is that it?

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Wait, so you were wrong?

Now, onto your NEW agrument. Let's say Microsoft can track sales down to the digit. Even then they won't do it because there's nothing to be gained wasting time and resources to gather up-to-date numbers from thousands upon thousands of individual retailers, just to give fanboys something to gloat about. Microsoft is a multi-billion-dollar corporation, not your local Gamestop doing inventory checks.

So yes, Microsoft CAN track exact retail sales, if they throw out every good business sense they've ever had. :?

Chutebox

So I'm wrong, and yet you're agreeing that Microsoft CAN track exact retail sales? Is that it?

Oh please. It's all stored and tracked at Microsoft headquarters. I don't know what you 2 are talking about wasting money looking up figures....

shipped sold all told, Kinect is selling like HOTCAKES, whereas Move not so much, is it that hard to understand? Jeez seems like MS has to sell 10 million by tomorrow to be called a lukewarm success, but we know thats just haters hating. I set the record straight...You are welcome, fans are welcomed to PM for classic Archive moments of the best GS has to offer saying that Kinect will be a failure because it WONT work....

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

So I'm wrong, and yet you're agreeing that Microsoft CAN track exact retail sales? Is that it?

KaoSXFACTOR

Oh please. It's all stored and tracked at Microsoft headquarters. I don't know what you 2 are talking about wasting money looking up figures....

yeah they think its too hard to track it yet when ever you call in a RROD it seemed they knew exactly when you purchased your 360 lol, the haters are trying too hard my friend Way to educate...

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

So I'm wrong, and yet you're agreeing that Microsoft CAN track exact retail sales? Is that it?

KaoSXFACTOR

Oh please. It's all stored and tracked at Microsoft headquarters. I don't know what you 2 are talking about wasting money looking up figures....

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] They "can" but they're not stupid enough to waste their money.

Chutebox

Oh please. It's all stored and tracked at Microsoft headquarters. I don't know what you 2 are talking about wasting money looking up figures....

call up 18004myxbox and give them your serial and tell them it RROD and they will tell you if its in warranty, lol, oh thats right you sold yours, lol yeah you pretty much lost this debate, but oh well we have other days.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

Actually they CAN track exact retail sales, and do. It's what determines whether or not more items need to be shipped to the retailer. Have you ever heard of? Out of Stock?

KaoSXFACTOR

Wait, so you were wrong?

Now, onto your NEW agrument. Let's say Microsoft can track sales down to the digit. Even then they won't do it because there's nothing to be gained wasting time and resources to gather up-to-date numbers from thousands upon thousands of individual retailers, just to give fanboys something to gloat about. Microsoft is a multi-billion-dollar corporation, not your local Gamestop doing inventory checks.

So yes, Microsoft CAN track exact retail sales, if they throw out every good business sense they've ever had. :?

So I'm wrong, and yet you're agreeing that Microsoft CAN track exact retail sales? Is that it?

Under the condition that Microsoft operates with zero common sense, I agree with you.

I guess people just can't detect sarcasm in text, either that or just pretending not to understand it. :?

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

Oh please. It's all stored and tracked at Microsoft headquarters. I don't know what you 2 are talking about wasting money looking up figures....

ProjectNatalFan

call up 18004myxbox and give them your serial and tell them it RROD and they will tell you if its in warranty, lol, oh thats right you sold yours, lol yeah you pretty much lost this debate, but oh well we have other days.