Kinect: Why The Xbox 360 Will Continue To Dominate This Gen

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#1 erglesmergle
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One word. Kinect.

Its going to provide revolutionary gameplay that no other console on the market is attempting to bring. River Rafting. Dodgeball. Milo. Kinectamals. Dance Masters (very exercise). Need I say more?

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#2 XboximusPrime
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You know, I opened this thread thinking I would be convinced. Needless to say I lold.

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#3 ermacness
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Well, for one, the 360 actually have to be dominating to continue to keep dominating.:|

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#4 XboximusPrime
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Well, for one, the 360 actually have to be dominating to continue to keep dominating.:|

ermacness

To be fair, its kinda domianting the PS3 right now

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#5 me_rock
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Toke Jopic?

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#6 xBluezx
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One word. Kinect.

Its going to provide revolutionary gameplay that no other console on the market is attempting to bring. River Rafting. Dodgeball. Milo. Kinectamals. Dance Masters (very exercise). Need I say more?

erglesmergle

Pretty sure the PS2 brought this... It's just like a super upgraded version of the PS Eye...

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#7 erglesmergle
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And inb4 someone brings up the Move. Its just the Wii HD. Nothing we havent seen before. No controllers is where its at.

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#8 argetlam00
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whats with all these random joke topics.

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#9 LegatoSkyheart
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Uh.....No.

the 360 will probably dominate cause it's a niche system.

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#10 erglesmergle
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[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

One word. Kinect.

Its going to provide revolutionary gameplay that no other console on the market is attempting to bring. River Rafting. Dodgeball. Milo. Kinectamals. Dance Masters (very exercise). Need I say more?

xBluezx

Pretty sure the PS2 brought this... It's just like a super upgraded version of the PS Eye...

Uhh can the PS Eye do this?

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#11 Vari3ty
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One word. Kinect.

Its going to provide revolutionary gameplay that no other console on the market is attempting to bring. River Rafting. Dodgeball. Milo. Kinectamals. Dance Masters (very exercise). Need I say more?

erglesmergle

Great. But does the hardcore crowd give a crap? No. And all the casuals already have a Wii anyway. Not to mention not many are going to dish out $150 for Kinect. Sorry, but it's to expensive, and to late. Nintendo's already got the casual crowd.

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#12 wooooode
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Continue and dominate should not even be considered in the title for this topic. Have you seen the PSEye its Pet game looks way better than Kinectamals.
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#13 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

One word. Kinect.

Its going to provide revolutionary gameplay that no other console on the market is attempting to bring. River Rafting. Dodgeball. Milo. Kinectamals. Dance Masters (very exercise). Need I say more?

Vari3ty

Great. But does the hardcore crowd give a crap? No. And all the casuals already have a Wii anyway. Not to mention not many are going to dish out $150 for Kinect. Sorry, but it's to expensive, and to late. Nintendo's already got the casual crowd.

aww but Microsoft doesn't want Shovelware remember? What a joke.

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#14 FIipMode
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When did it start dominating?
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#15 argetlam00
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Continue and dominate should not even be considered in the title for this topic. Have you seen the PSEye its Pet game looks way better than Kinectamals.wooooode

Who cares about pet games? At least the Move has some quality titles like KZ2, SOCOM and LBP2. Even that sorcery game looks better than anything available on Kinect, though its merely an A level game.

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It's a Ps3fanboy trying to pretend he has a xbox360.
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#17 erglesmergle
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[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

One word. Kinect.

Its going to provide revolutionary gameplay that no other console on the market is attempting to bring. River Rafting. Dodgeball. Milo. Kinectamals. Dance Masters (very exercise). Need I say more?

Vari3ty

Great. But does the hardcore crowd give a crap? No. And all the casuals already have a Wii anyway. Not to mention not many are going to dish out $150 for Kinect. Sorry, but it's to expensive, and to late. Nintendo's already got the casual crowd.

Who said anything about Kinect being for casuals. Its mainly for hardcore gamers. Casual gamers already have the Wii. Just wait and see.

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#18 SakusEnvoy
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On an unrelated note, retailer says Kinect pre-orders are "very low"...

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#19 Ragnarok1051
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The 360 hasn't dominated since 2007...

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#20 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

One word. Kinect.

Its going to provide revolutionary gameplay that no other console on the market is attempting to bring. River Rafting. Dodgeball. Milo. Kinectamals. Dance Masters (very exercise). Need I say more?

erglesmergle

Great. But does the hardcore crowd give a crap? No. And all the casuals already have a Wii anyway. Not to mention not many are going to dish out $150 for Kinect. Sorry, but it's to expensive, and to late. Nintendo's already got the casual crowd.

Who said anything about Kinect being for casuals. Its mainly for hardcore gamers. Casual gamers already have the Wii. Just wait and see.

Yeah, so where are the hardcore games? Give me one.

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#21 erglesmergle
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[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Great. But does the hardcore crowd give a crap? No. And all the casuals already have a Wii anyway. Not to mention not many are going to dish out $150 for Kinect. Sorry, but it's to expensive, and to late. Nintendo's already got the casual crowd.

argetlam00

Who said anything about Kinect being for casuals. Its mainly for hardcore gamers. Casual gamers already have the Wii. Just wait and see.

Yeah, so where are the hardcore games? Give me one.

Dance Masters. There.

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#22 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

Who said anything about Kinect being for casuals. Its mainly for hardcore gamers. Casual gamers already have the Wii. Just wait and see.

erglesmergle

Yeah, so where are the hardcore games? Give me one.

Dance Masters. There.

Whats so hardcore about it?

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#23 iBear-
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You know, I opened this thread thinking I would be convinced.

XboximusPrime

Lets be honest, no you didn't


And neither did i.

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#24 erglesmergle
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[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Yeah, so where are the hardcore games? Give me one.

argetlam00

Dance Masters. There.

Whats so hardcore about it?

Dude its Dance Masters man. Havent you seen the E3 videos?

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#25 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="erglesmergle"]

Dance Masters. There.

erglesmergle

Whats so hardcore about it?

Dude its Dance Masters man. Havent you seen the E3 videos?

Right. GOTY. Whatever man this topic bored me already.

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#26 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I don't see that happening.
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#27 deactivated-59d151f079814
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From what I have seen kinect is probably the weakest of all the motion tracking.. No controler what so ever? This is from some one who thinks that services like XBL is better then the PSN.. But seriously to me this just seems like a extremely poor idea..
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#29 LP4EVA2005
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sorry but the 360 hasnt been dominating anything for the past 3 years. if anything they are getting man handled by sony.
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#30 argetlam00
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From what I have seen kinect is probably the weakest of all the motion tracking.. No controler what so ever? This is from some one who thinks that services like XBL is better then the PSN.. But seriously to me this just seems like a extremely poor idea.. sSubZerOo

I don't think Natal is a poor idea at all. Honestly, if they can get some good titles to work well with it it would be great. Curb stomping in Gears=Win

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#31 Foliage-King
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I thought I was coming into a bumped thread from 2007. Looks like a was wrong

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#32 monkeysmoke
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The 360 is still maintaining & dorminating in 2nd place while Ps3 is still crawling like a slug behind 3rd place. Too bad nobody is waiting for you sony every one will soon announce jump to their next gen consoles. Microsoft has built up enough hardcore base so it time to build up a cassual base now with kinect.At least not like am gonna stop getting my hardcore mass effect,gears of war & halo games & not like am gonna be forced to use kinect in my hardcore games. M$ is doing a wise job demoing kinect for casual gamers while retaining the original controller for the hardcore players. Any hardcore player will always choose a regular controller over any motion controllers for hardcore games. Kinect has more chances of attracting more potential casual gamers with it games starting lineup compared to ps move starting lineup "Resident evil 5,killzone 3 & Socom4" are all hardcore title & most players will play them with dualshock controller as it will not attract casual gamers. My 2 youger brothers & most of thier friends are always talking about kinnect & they will surely get thier hands on it when it launchs!
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#33 Foliage-King
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The 360 is still maintaining & dorminating in 2nd place while Ps3 is still crawling like a slug behind 3rd place. Too bad nobody is waiting for you sony every one will soon announce jump to their next gen consoles. Microsoft has built up enough hardcore base so it time to build up a cassual base now with kinect.At least not like am gonna stop getting my hardcore mass effect,gears of war & halo games & not like am gonna be forced to use kinect in my hardcore games. M$ is doing a wise job demoing kinect for casual gamers while retaining the original controller for the hardcore players. Any hardcore player will always choose a regular controller over any motion controllers for hardcore games. Kinect has more chances of attracting more potential casual gamers with it games starting lineup compared to ps move starting lineup "Resident evil 5,killzone 3 & Socom4" are all hardcore title & most players will play them with dualshock controller as it will not attract casual gamers. My 2 youger brothers & most of thier friends are always talking about kinnect & they will surely get thier hands on it when it launchs!monkeysmoke

Behind 3rd place. So who's in 3rd

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#34 88mphSlayer
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c'mon folks, keep jumping through those marketing hoops like good little doggies

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#35 789shadow
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Excuse me for a moment. *runs to bathroom and laughs* Ok, now where were we? Oh yes, a horribly overpriced peripheral that has no audience whatsoever.

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#36 Twin-Blade
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Kinect & Move are gimmicks,

I hope they crash & burn,

And once this fads all over,

I'll get the games I yearn.

Edit: I wasn't happy with my original post, & this thread needed a limerick.

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#37 mariokart64fan
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ok what ever

im still lookin at that news article saying low preorder sales,!

and b how does 360 dominate when wii does

2 consoles can not dominate

360 is selling like pft in japan

and is just neck and neck with ps3 in us not even tapping wii both of these in the last 4 yrs

wii out sold them 2 to 1 every month except on holidays when it done double damage

it out solde ps3 and 360 in 08 regardless of bad games (so called no games) 4 to 1 -1 milion plus compared to 300 thousandplus

09 becam the same story ps3 and wii sold over a million 360 didnt reach that million wii edge ps3 out hahaha thats us uk is also reportin no wiis in stock as of today online in side the article about kenict it explains wii is out of stock thats been the story on wii since day one this without a shortage

2010 wii in the us other places is on top slipped in japan by a few thousand a week some times in japan last week it gained 2 of that thousand units back

so its been a ps3 and wii time in japan excluding handhelds nintendo has already won the pie there no way sonys comin to get them -70 m to 130 m plus

they might as well give up in handhelds is what this is saying they could have released its 3ds when dsi came out and came away with the extra 60 mill but they didnt so that added pain

next yr3ds releases

its over for handhelds 6th gen handhelds -nintendo again wins the race out of the gate and like always they win

the console side of next gen isnt started so let me get back to this gen

the ps3 and wii looks to be the2 top selling consoles this gen

so you saying why the 360 will continue to dominate! is fail!

why you ask

wii has already out sold 360

and 360 has slowed its pace allowing ps3 to catch up

to those who say but wii has no games

your wrong

wii has them yourjust not lookin hard enough

so does ps3 ,

but 360 , ,i dont know besides halo and games also on ps3

i dont think its got ne thing left in the tank to go another 5 yrs

wii has amazed me

heres why

here itis using last gen technology , ,

and its going on to sell its close to 80 million units

why is that so amazing

well no console that used old technology has done this nor has any one tried it twice

you didnt see sony release 2 128 bit consoles

or sega release 2 16 bit ones and succeed

but nintendo comes along ,

just saying ok , we failed you gc fans, and others , ,

we will just take gamecube back remake it add new controls wala

you got wii the fastest selling console to date with games that are actually good! -goldeneye who said that was impossible

come here

i got present for ya ahhaah

2 companys have done things right this gen

sony-good hd console that doesnt brick ! good movies along with that adding 3d to go that extra mile and for those who arent intristed or cant afford gues you get motion games for the next 5 yrs either way, , good work sony

nintendo

took what was old, and made it fresh and did it in away that it didnt hurt ! plus the fact we are getting games we said were not coming yall said nintnedo didnt care about us , -----well l this e3 definatelly put some tape on some peoples mouths im lookin at all the people who said nintendo would have an awful showing

also to those who said they dont care bout old time gamers! if they didnt

just answer one question

no there is no better way then to just list the games promised by nintendo in 2005 e3 they said

all their franchises will some how make their way to the wii

and they have , , xcept a few but who cares about 1 or 2 games -1 is goin to 3ds actually 2 is

so far

we have 4 marios -super paper mario super mario galaxy new super mario bros

2 zeldas-1 out 1 in the works-no im not including virtual console or gamecube games if i did that would take every game down

3- donkeykong country series- yes i was shocked, but i knew it would come !

4 goldeneye007 reborn - a game even i didnt believe would happen

5 marioparty and a game like it -wii party

6 punchout

7 sin and punishment

8 excite series returned

9 wario ware and land returned

10-mariokart game

11 super smash bros game

12 super metroid reborn-the old style metroid

13 dr mario -wii ware

14 pokemon has had various games on wii and wii ware

15 there new wii line-wii play wii sports wi ifit wii sports plus wii fit plus

16 kirby! kirby! 2 of the biggest titles that i didnt think would make it-goldeneye and kirby! or donkey kong ,

all im waiting im sure you are to

fzero

wave race

1080

pikmin-they did make a remake

and stunt race

yep they do them 5 ,next year , ,e3

you and i have got what we all wanted! and what reggie promised!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! let goldeneye be an extra lol cause no one promised that!

so ya, sony and nintendo gave thier fans what they wanted

sony gave me twisted metal

getaway 3 reconfirmed

plus new ips

so ya um i think every one who is a real gamer , , would agree , ,

out of nintendo and sony and microsoft sony and nintnedo gave what their fans asked for , ,

hey you know what, nintendo could have easily pulled what they pulled last gen

no punchout no goldeneye no nothing but marioparty after mario party !

so im glad for the change

even though it wasnt as bad ,

microsoft disappointed me because they dont make sure rare does a good job ,somthing nintendo would have done!

had they done so we would have more then gears halo and forza on our plates/in our trays

oh i didnt see that river rafting you just posted til now

so

let me tell you what

go grab wii sports resort

bam

you got river rafting not only thiat bicycle pedalling ! haha

everything natal /kenict adverises can be found on wii or ds or some where else so you are definatelly failed at a topic you started

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#38 ProjectNatalFan
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One word. Kinect.

Its going to provide revolutionary gameplay that no other console on the market is attempting to bring. River Rafting. Dodgeball. Milo. Kinectamals. Dance Masters (very exercise). Need I say more?

erglesmergle

lot of crow to be eaten when it outsells move 5 to 1

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#39 ProjectNatalFan
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sorry but the 360 hasnt been dominating anything for the past 3 years. if anything they are getting man handled by sony.LP4EVA2005

looks at the sales of software, looks at the sales of hardware, looks and laughs at manhandled

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#40 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

Well, for one, the 360 actually have to be dominating to continue to keep dominating.:|

XboximusPrime

To be fair, its kinda domianting the PS3 right now

in this case when something is dominating it will dominate all(console wise)

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#42 Sp4rtan_3
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Revolutionary gameplay ?? Kinect is the biggest joke in gaming :lol: the smokescreen demo's M$ put up where more proff of this.
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#43 Shinobi120
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Kinect & Move are gimmicks,

I hope they crash & burn,

And once this fads all over,

I'll get the games I yearn.

Edit: I wasn't happy with my original post, & this thread needed a limerick.

Twin-Blade

Both of them shouldn't have existed to begin with. Also, there's no way in hell that Casuals are going to shell out between $360 to $510 just to play with Kinect even with the Arcade model being priced at $200 (i'm talking about the newest Arcade model that will be coming soon, not the one that's currently selling for $150 right now), a Kinect at $150, & a Kinect game being at $60. If you purchase the $300 XBox 360 S, you'll be paying $510 just for those things alone, & that's without carrying tax. Very ridiculous.

Plus none of the games for it are even exciting, except for say, "Child Of Eden." But even that game can just be played with a regular 360 controller.

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#44 bobbleheadrogue
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[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"]WARNING!!! Dont buy the "playstation move" for your daughter,sister or girl friend because the move is a d!ldo....oh it also has rumble vibration for extra sensitivity. I'll be stunned if i find a PS move in my girlfriend's purse am not gonna believe she uses it for gaming. I hope sony will be sued for selling sex device to gamers when the ps move start appearing in porn movies!!!

I LOL'D. ;) On topic though, TC, do you realize that all the Kinect E3 demos lagged (skittles), were inaccurate (the dancing game) or were downright prerecorded (forza and star wars) right? The only thing they managed well in real time....was scrolling the interface with someone's hand. (-.-|||) I dunno how Microsoft is going to program the Kinect to work properly let alone let people have fun with it :P
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Excuse me for a moment. *runs to bathroom and laughs* Ok, now where were we? Oh yes, ahorribly overpriced peripheral that has no audience whatsoever.

789shadow

Yeah, not to mention crap software.

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#46 MoonMarvel
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One word. Kinect.

Its going to provide revolutionary gameplay that no other console on the market is attempting to bring. River Rafting. Dodgeball. Milo. Kinectamals. Dance Masters (very exercise). Need I say more

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Milo is not a game, its a tech demo.

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#47 tommyas
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Milo will not be released as it was said to be a tech demo, just letting you know. All other Kinect games you mentioned are just little minigames. We havent seen Kinect being used in a big game yet. Forza 3 and walking around a car is cool but its not an actual game. Move on the other hand will be implemented in already released games (Heavy Rain, Eyepet, Flower, Hustle Kings, RE5...) and will be supported in big games which havent been released yet (Under Siege, Killzone 3, Socom 4, LBP2...). It also has some good games such as Sorcery which seems to be a rather big game too. Do you really want to say that Kinectimals and those other casual minigames are better than all this? Im still waiting for Kinect to be used in a regulr big game. Good luck with that, I wont believe it until I see it. I already saw Move in action and it wasnt tech demo like Milo thing. No offense intended.
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Oh and forgot to say that your so called revolutionary gameplay was already done on PS2 with Eyetoy. Yes, Sony copied Wii but nobody in this thread calls Move a revolution.
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#49 erglesmergle
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ITT: No one understands sarcasm. Calm down people.

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Milo will not be released as it was said to be a tech demo, just letting you know. All other Kinect games you mentioned are just little minigames. We havent seen Kinect being used in a big game yet. Forza 3 and walking around a car is cool but its not an actual game. Move on the other hand will be implemented in already released games (Heavy Rain, Eyepet, Flower, Hustle Kings, RE5...) and will be supported in big games which havent been released yet (Under Siege, Killzone 3, Socom 4, LBP2...). It also has some good games such as Sorcery which seems to be a rather big game too. Do you really want to say that Kinectimals and those other casual minigames are better than all this? Im still waiting for Kinect to be used in a regulr big game. Good luck with that, I wont believe it until I see it. I already saw Move in action and it wasnt tech demo like Milo thing. No offense intended.tommyas

Milo & Kate is still under development and will show up later next year. Here is the correction from Kotaku:

It looks likeMilo & Katewill be released after all, but not this year.

Microsoft project manager Aaron Greenberg toldKotakuthat Milo & Kate is in fact under development, recanting earlier statements to the contrary.

"Project Milo absolutely continues in development at Lionhead Studios," Greenberg said. "It is just not a product we plan to bring to market this holiday. The team at Lionhead has always been a center of innovation and will continue to deliver against that charter."

Originally announced alongside Kinect at E3 2009, Milo & Kate was not present at E3 2010. Greenberg toldAustralia's Good Gamethat Microsoft is not planning to bring the game to market before backtracking.

http://kotaku.com/5575672/no-project-milo-is-coming-to-the-xbox-just-not-this-year