Kinect: Why The Xbox 360 Will Continue To Dominate This Gen

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#51 oldkingallant
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It isn't dominating and Kinect won't help it dominate.

It doesn't have the best games, the PS3 certainly has better games and for myself I'd take the Wiis library.

It CERTAINLY isn't dominating in sales, the Wii has near twice as many units sold and it's still selling like hot cakes.

A type of gameplay NO other console is bringing to the market? :lol: Well the Wii started motion control this gen, and Sony has Microsoft beaten by about 6 or 7 years, having released Eye Toy years ago, something Kinect rips off. Did I mention the Eye Toy is still available and will be used with Move to make it more accurate, and still has the ability to be used without a controller? Heh guess not.

So no.

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To TheXFiles88 Oh, didnt know that. But the rest of my post stays.
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#53 TheXFiles88
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[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"]WARNING!!! Dont buy the "playstation move" for your daughter,sister or girl friend because the move is a d!ldo....oh it also has rumble vibration for extra sensitivity. I'll be stunned if i find a PS move in my girlfriend's purse am not gonna believe she uses it for gaming. I hope sony will be sued for selling sex device to gamers when the ps move start appearing in porn movies!!!bobbleheadrogue
I LOL'D. ;) On topic though, TC, do you realize that all the Kinect E3 demos lagged (skittles), were inaccurate (the dancing game) or were downright prerecorded (forza and star wars) right? The only thing they managed well in real time....was scrolling the interface with someone's hand. (-.-|||) I dunno how Microsoft is going to program the Kinect to work properly let alone let people have fun with it :P

Really? Then watch this demo and show me anything Move can do right now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LzFemqm21o&feature=player_embedded

And if you think Move is anything better than a Wii, you are dead wrong. Just watch this demo and you know it is a joke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M29hcu_YEe0

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#54 Malta_1980
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One word. Kinect.

Its going to provide revolutionary gameplay that no other console on the market is attempting to bring. River Rafting. Dodgeball. Milo. Kinectamals. Dance Masters (very exercise). Need I say more?

erglesmergle

No please stop, no need to say more :)

Seriously MS really needs to show some proper games to get me interested in Kinect, cause going by what was shown at E3 + feedback from the majority of the media who tried Kinect its not looking good at all ..

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#55 TheXFiles88
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To TheXFiles88 Oh, didnt know that. But the rest of my post stays. tommyas

Not really, if you watch this demo, you will know there is not a single game out there on the Move or Wii that has fully 3D interactive environment, scans your body and displays your height and dimensions of your body in 3D.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LzFemqm21o&feature=player_embedded

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#56 mike_on_mic
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Sorry, continue to dominate, I wasn't aware they were dominating in anyway unless you are referring to the first year or so when they were the first console of this Gen, then I doubt you could call it dominating, it is like a kid playing football with himself, sure it might be fun but they certainly don't in anyway dominate.
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#57 TheXFiles88
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One word. Kinect.

Its going to provide revolutionary gameplay that no other console on the market is attempting to bring. River Rafting. Dodgeball. Milo. Kinectamals. Dance Masters (very exercise). Need I say more?

erglesmergle

I say the most impressive and revolutionary game so far from the list is "Your Shape". It is by far the best way to utilize the tech. UbiSoft really knows how to implement Kinect functions into their game.You can interact with the objects/UI and environment around you in virtual world. Itscans your body and displays it with your height and dimensions of your body in the virtual world. It shows your body joins when youexerciseTai-Chi. It is the most advanced game out there yet on the motion control market. Here is the video of that demo. Very impressive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LzFemqm21o&feature=player_embedded

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#58 PAL360
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Yes, i cant wait for Dodgeball and Kinactanimals! :?

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#60 Indie_Hitman
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

Well, for one, the 360 actually have to be dominating to continue to keep dominating.:|

To be fair, its kinda domianting the PS3 right now

Dominating in the sense that it's being dominated by the wii, and is selling at exactly the same rate as Ps3... I can't argue witht that
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[QUOTE="tommyas"]To TheXFiles88 Oh, didnt know that. But the rest of my post stays. TheXFiles88

Not really, if you watch this demo, you will know there is not a single game out there on the Move or Wii that has fully 3D interactive environment, scans your body and displays your height and dimensions of your body in 3D.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LzFemqm21o&feature=player_embedded

This one actualy seems really good, yes. But thats one example so far. Now, I admit that Kinect is much more advanced as a technology. But the games are what matters most imo and so far Move offers more. Sure Move is not as advanced as Kinect but it can be easily implemented in older games and the new ones (buttons). This makes it more accesible for developers too. And while Your Shape is a good example of how the technology works, it just doest feel like a "big" game for hardcore players. So personaly, Move is better of the two, even though its not as advanced technology.
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#62 Combii
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I don't think Kinect is that big. I mean it will be like the Wii where it's OMG wow! In 2 weeks then after it will be boring. And the same goes for Playstation Move. I mean they are wasting their time...

And Kinect is slow responsive when you jump it takes 3 sec before you jump in the game. I wouldn't buy this :(

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#63 DethSkematik
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IDK, after reading the headlines on GS, Kinect is having some disappointing preorders (although for the BOTD, nothing's official until it's actually for sale...not everyone preorders things, I'll give it that).
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#64 hiryu3
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One word. Kinect.

Its going to provide revolutionary gameplay that no other console on the market is attempting to bring. River Rafting. Dodgeball. Milo. Kinectamals. Dance Masters (very exercise). Need I say more?

erglesmergle
are you like a paid M$ PR employee or something?
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#65 dah_master
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No simply no...

with Halo reach coming out maybe..

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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

Well, for one, the 360 actually have to be dominating to continue to keep dominating.:|

XboximusPrime

To be fair, its kinda domianting the PS3 right now

In what way? Sales? No. Games? Definite no.

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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

Well, for one, the 360 actually have to be dominating to continue to keep dominating.:|

metalgear-solid

To be fair, its kinda domianting the PS3 right now

In what way? Sales? No. Games? Definite no.

It is dominating in sales

and it's tied in games

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#68 SecretPolice
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No doubt and I getting mah Garanimals all set for Kinectimals...

let the Skittles domination begin. :P

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#69 racing1750
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sorry but the 360 hasnt been dominating anything for the past 3 years. if anything they are getting man handled by sony.LP4EVA2005
The 360 is in 2nd place, and sony are in 3rd, so yeh.
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[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]sorry but the 360 hasnt been dominating anything for the past 3 years. if anything they are getting man handled by sony.racing1750
The 360 is in 2nd place, and sony are in 3rd, so yeh.

To be fair MS is only in the lead because they launched first. Sony is catching up fast.
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#72 Kokuro_Kun
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[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

To be fair, its kinda domianting the PS3 right now

ohthemanatee

In what way? Sales? No. Games? Definite no.

It is dominating in sales

and it's tied in games

With a one year lead their tied in games? Thats laughable. I think people forget that variable. Considering for a whole year if you wanted a next gen game you had to have an Xbox, their not doing that well against the PS3. It's not dominating in sells, i wish we could see the sales of hardware bought buy FIRST TIME customers and not people who have had their Xbox die.
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#73 darthogre
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

Well, for one, the 360 actually have to be dominating to continue to keep dominating.:|

To be fair, its kinda domianting the PS3 right now

Dominating? What is your definition of "dominating"? It's beating PS3 in overall sales (which decreases every month) but how is that dominating? The Wii is dominating everyone technically.
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#74 TehNubTuber
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

Well, for one, the 360 actually have to be dominating to continue to keep dominating.:|

XboximusPrime

To be fair, its kinda domianting the PS3 right now

Only in the TC's little imaginary world :P Everywhere else the PS3's been sitting high and mighty for over 3 years, and it just keeps getting better and better as the 360 gets less and less.
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#75 darthogre
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[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"] The 360 is in 2nd place, and sony are in 3rd, so yeh.racing1750
[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]sorry but the 360 hasnt been dominating anything for the past 3 years. if anything they are getting man handled by sony.racing1750
The 360 is in 2nd place, and sony are in 3rd, so yeh.

That is not the definition of "domination". They are beating sony currently but that lead gets smaller every month. Regardless though the original post was hilarious......................X360 will continue to beat PS3 because of...............Kinect and Skittles. Lems, we are laughing at you not with you.
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#76 -Snooze-
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Pretty sure the PS2 brought this... It's just like a super upgraded version of the PS Eye...

xBluezx

Which in fact just a webcam ...

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#78 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Uh.....No.

the 360 will probably dominate cause it's a niche system.

LegatoSkyheart

:lol: Uh.....No.

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#79 randomguy15
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Ok I've had enough, cows you have been using the excuse the 360 launched a year earlier for years now and thats why its sales arebetter. Well its been 4 years since the ps3 launched and if it was catching up so quickly why hasn't it yet. PS3 is in last place and will be for the rest of the gen imo. Next the 360 is dominating in games theirs like 4 ps3 exclusives that appeal to me. You all are just trying to fool yourselves that you have an awesome system when you really don't, and god forbid we bring up 2006-2008 when the ps3 was pathetic. Yes it has great games now and it's not a bad system but the 360 surpasses it. But on topic kinect is over priced and lame.

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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]sorry but the 360 hasnt been dominating anything for the past 3 years. if anything they are getting man handled by sony.Kokuro_Kun
The 360 is in 2nd place, and sony are in 3rd, so yeh.

To be fair MS is only in the lead because they launched first. Sony is catching up fast.

Yeah Sony is actually selling more then MS is now and they WILL pass them in sales by the end of this gen I guarentee it. 360 has had a full year head start and it will still lose :P. Wii smothered them all though lol.

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#81 WiiMan21
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Errrr...Okay..

Not sure what its doing new...or right for that matter...

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With a one year lead their tied in games? Thats laughable. I think people forget that variable. Considering for a whole year if you wanted a next gen game you had to have an Xbox, their not doing that well against the PS3.It's not dominating in sells, i wish we could see the sales of hardware bought buy FIRST TIME customers and not people who have had their Xbox die.Kokuro_Kun


they are still games, deal with it

It's ahead of the PS3 and right now it's outselling the PS3, once again, deal with it

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Yeah Sony is actually selling more then MS is now and they WILL pass them in sales by the end of this gen I guarentee it. 360 has had a full year head start and it will still lose :P. Wii smothered them all though lol.

NaveedLife

the Slim is giving the 360 a boost in sales

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#84 Silverbond
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360 isn't dominating.

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This is the same TC that made the laughable "Halo Reach Graphics King" thread a few weeks ago. Right.
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#86 DeathnoteSz
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And inb4 someone brings up the Move. Its just the Wii HD. Nothing we havent seen before. No controllers is where its at.

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well then lemme introduce you to the playstation eye. IDIOTS. i swear
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#87 Supabul
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Who really is going to buy Kinect or PS3 Move, just look at the cost of this crap and the list of awful games that there offering

http://www.gamestop.com/gs/kinect/Default.aspx?loc=360flash2

http://www.gamestop.com/browse/ProductMerch.aspx?groupid=910&loc=ps3flash1

With game's like Halo Reach, GT5, Call of Duty Black Ops, Fable 3, Fallout NV, Crysis 2, Mafia 2, Assassins Creed, Medal of Honor and much more all getting released this year do MS and Sony think where going to buy this stuff.

I have all that on my Wii, and it got played until the novelty worre off, and that didn't take long. These are going to be the biggest two failures in the history of gaming

The PS3 move jackets made me laugh, could you make the controllers look anymore lame

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This is the same TC that made the laughable "Halo Reach Graphics King" thread a few weeks ago. Right.SpiritOfFire117

What's even more laughable was alot of Lems were agreeing it had potential

Despite it being an old engine again ... Bungie should have bit the bullet and COMPLETELY changed the engine, not revamped and updated it.

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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]This is the same TC that made the laughable "Halo Reach Graphics King" thread a few weeks ago. Right.-Snooze-

What's even more laughable was alot of Lems were agreeing it had potential

Despite it being an old engine again ... Bungie should have bit the bullet and COMPLETELY changed the engine, not revamped and updated it.

I happen to recall in that thread that just about everyone in that thread rejected the TC's idea. Nice try.

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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]This is the same TC that made the laughable "Halo Reach Graphics King" thread a few weeks ago. Right.SpiritOfFire117

What's even more laughable was alot of Lems were agreeing it had potential

Despite it being an old engine again ... Bungie should have bit the bullet and COMPLETELY changed the engine, not revamped and updated it.

I happen to recall in that thread that just about everyone in that thread rejected the TC's idea. Nice try.

Although i wasn't speaking of that thread in particular, you're admission that "just about" everyone disagreed hints towards some lemmings agreeing

I remember several threads around the time the beta shots were released a lot of Lemmings, and maybe even you were hyping it's graphics to KZ2 level.

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whats with all these random joke topics.

argetlam00

This^ but still :) it put a smile on my face.... :D :lol: LOL yea... who takes these post seriously?? ;)

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#92 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

What's even more laughable was alot of Lems were agreeing it had potential

Despite it being an old engine again ... Bungie should have bit the bullet and COMPLETELY changed the engine, not revamped and updated it.

-Snooze-

I happen to recall in that thread that just about everyone in that thread rejected the TC's idea. Nice try.

Although i wasn't speaking of that thread in particular, you're admission that "just about" everyone disagreed hints towards some lemmings agreeing

I remember several threads around the time the beta shots were released a lot of Lemmings, and maybe even you were hyping it's graphics to KZ2 level.

There was talk about a preported engine and a lot of rumors flying around, and the occasional fakeboy thread, but overall everyone agreed that even though it was no "graphics king" the game still looked good. And you say I was hyping the graphics to KZ2 levels? That's a ****ing lie. I always said the game looked "good" but in some cases I was attacked by cows for saying just that.

I also noticed that any of those threads usually appeared by the same handfull of users that made the same claim everytime some new info was released. It's easy to spot a trend.

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When did it start dominating? FIipMode
That is what I have been wondering. The 360 is dominating only in the United States but worldwide the ps3 is winning.
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#94 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]When did it start dominating? Miroku32
That is what I have been wondering. The 360 is dominating only in the United States but worldwide the ps3 is winning.

What are you basing that on?

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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]I happen to recall in that thread that just about everyone in that thread rejected the TC's idea. Nice try.

SpiritOfFire117

Although i wasn't speaking of that thread in particular, you're admission that "just about" everyone disagreed hints towards some lemmings agreeing

I remember several threads around the time the beta shots were released a lot of Lemmings, and maybe even you were hyping it's graphics to KZ2 level.

There was talk about a preported engine and a lot of rumors flying around, and the occasional fakeboy thread, but overall everyone agreed that even though it was no "graphics king" the game still looked good. And you say I was hyping the graphics to KZ2 levels? That's a ****ing lie. I always said the game looked "good" but in some cases I was attacked by cows for saying just that.

I also noticed that any of those threads usually appeared by the same handfull of users that made the same claim everytime some new info was released. It's easy to spot a trend.

I don't know about fakeboys ... I'm looking at one such thread now and it seems a lot of people thought it looked on par with KZ2.In this thread you agreed it was a contender ...

"Halo Reach is in the top 5 best looking games" was the thread title or something like that.

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#96 clone01
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]In what way? Sales? No. Games? Definite no.

Kokuro_Kun

It is dominating in sales

and it's tied in games

With a one year lead their tied in games? Thats laughable. I think people forget that variable. Considering for a whole year if you wanted a next gen game you had to have an Xbox, their not doing that well against the PS3. It's not dominating in sells, i wish we could see the sales of hardware bought buy FIRST TIME customers and not people who have had their Xbox die.

there was a 3 year warranty, in case you hadn't heard.
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#97 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Although i wasn't speaking of that thread in particular, you're admission that "just about" everyone disagreed hints towards some lemmings agreeing

I remember several threads around the time the beta shots were released a lot of Lemmings, and maybe even you were hyping it's graphics to KZ2 level.

-Snooze-

There was talk about a preported engine and a lot of rumors flying around, and the occasional fakeboy thread, but overall everyone agreed that even though it was no "graphics king" the game still looked good. And you say I was hyping the graphics to KZ2 levels? That's a ****ing lie. I always said the game looked "good" but in some cases I was attacked by cows for saying just that.

I also noticed that any of those threads usually appeared by the same handfull of users that made the same claim everytime some new info was released. It's easy to spot a trend.

I don't know about fakeboys ... I'm looking at one such thread now and it seems a lot of people thought it looked on par with KZ2.In this thread you agreed it was a contender ...

"Halo Reach is in the top 5 best looking games" was the thread title or something like that.

I might had said it MIGHT had a chance or something but I did not flat-out say "REACH IS THE BEST LOOKING GAME OF THE YEAR". Also, top 5 is a vague accusation. It could be bottom 5 but who knows? I don't give a crap.

But really, what are you trying to prove?

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#98 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]There was talk about a preported engine and a lot of rumors flying around, and the occasional fakeboy thread, but overall everyone agreed that even though it was no "graphics king" the game still looked good. And you say I was hyping the graphics to KZ2 levels? That's a ****ing lie. I always said the game looked "good" but in some cases I was attacked by cows for saying just that.

I also noticed that any of those threads usually appeared by the same handfull of users that made the same claim everytime some new info was released. It's easy to spot a trend.

SpiritOfFire117

I don't know about fakeboys ... I'm looking at one such thread now and it seems a lot of people thought it looked on par with KZ2.In this thread you agreed it was a contender ...

"Halo Reach is in the top 5 best looking games" was the thread title or something like that.

I might had said it MIGHT had a chance or something but I did not flat-out say "REACH IS THE BEST LOOKING GAME OF THE YEAR". Also, top 5 is a vague accusation. It could be bottom 5 but who knows? I don't give a crap.

But really, what are you trying to prove?

Hey man, i'm sure you don't care.

I just think it's funny that some people thought it was on par with KZ2. It has good character models thats for sure.

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#99 randomguy15
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]With a one year lead their tied in games? Thats laughable. I think people forget that variable. Considering for a whole year if you wanted a next gen game you had to have an Xbox, their not doing that well against the PS3.It's not dominating in sells, i wish we could see the sales of hardware bought buy FIRST TIME customers and not people who have had their Xbox die.ohthemanatee


they are still games, deal with it

It's ahead of the PS3 and right now it's outselling the PS3, once again, deal with it

Yes! Someone else on this board that has some sense. But Manatee, I've brought up many valid points like you have and all the cows do is ignore em.

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#100 bobcheeseball
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It's a shame these "joke topics" never make me lol