Kojima: Metal Gear Solid Rising at an 'experimental' stage.

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#51 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Meaning they have no idea how to make a stealth game with Raiden. :P

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#52 NinjaMunkey01
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Im guessing theyre trying to figure out how to blend stealth and action so it still feels like an metal gear game, but has the swordplay.

It shoiuld be really good if done right though. stealth ninja type stuff. sneaking behing a couple enemies then preforming a move to take them both out. It'll be like CQC in mgs3 but with knives.

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#53 Tessellation
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I'm curious to see if MGS R can be on par with MGS 4 on terms of graphics or better as promised.

This is doubtful given the current hardware limitations of the 360, but we'll have to see.

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Yeah that's why MGS4 was native 720p...oh wait..
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#54 topgunmv
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My guess is they'll do away with that whole pesky playing part they stick in between the movies.

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#55 Tessellation
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Why would anyone complain if MSG R gameplay is like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61jRmqHSU9E,why is people speculating that's going to be hack and slash only?
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#56 Nero_Paladin
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Why would anyone complain if MSG R gameplay is like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61jRmqHSU9E,why is people speculating that's going to be hack and slash only?Tessellation

because of this: It is, after all, promised to deliver a "different kind of action" for the series.

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#57 LiquidShnake
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[QUOTE="sexxxyboy"]im just not hyped about rising for some reason.jasonharris48

It if it turns out to be a sequel that takes place after MGS4 I will lose all interest for the game.

It does take place after MGS4. Read the last paragraph. http://www.ps3center.net//news/3529/kojima-peace-walker-in-mgs4-quality/.
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#58 AnnoyedDragon
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Well that's one of the disadvantages of having a gaming PC

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What? You didn't need to be a PC gamer to consider some of the areas in that game an eyesore. I recall one particular area with vegetation were the anisotropic filtering was so bad the floor had this annoying shimmering effect, even console gamers would notice that.

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#59 Nawshus
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No one who i know who owns a 360 cares about mgs, frankly the only people who seem to care are ps3 fanboys.

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#60 SionPT
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No one who i know who owns a 360 cares about mgs, frankly the only people who seem to care are ps3 fanboys.

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LOL, i have a friend who own a xbox and for him its best console, he dosent even care that mutch for video games.

but MGS for him is the best game ever, he even said he cried by the end of mgs3.( eventually he got a ps3 to play it)

MGS2 and 3 were on Ps2 in case you dont know

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#61 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]Why would anyone complain if MSG R gameplay is like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61jRmqHSU9E,why is people speculating that's going to be hack and slash only?Nero_Paladin
because of this: It is, after all,promised to delivera "different kind of action" for the series.

That doesn't translate to Hack N Slash.
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#62 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"][QUOTE="Tessellation"]Why would anyone complain if MSG R gameplay is like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61jRmqHSU9E,why is people speculating that's going to be hack and slash only?Tessellation
because of this: It is, after all,promised to delivera "different kind of action" for the series.

That doesn't translate to Hack N Slash.

Didn't Kojima confirm it was gonna be Action/Stealth in Konami's keynote?
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#63 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Nero_Paladin"]because of this: It is, after all,promised to delivera "different kind of action" for the series.IronBass
That doesn't translate to Hack N Slash.

Didn't Kojima confirm it was gonna be Action/Stealth in Konami's keynote?

Yes,he did actually.
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#64 Malta_1980
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i am personally looking forward to both MGS:R and MGS:PW, being a huge fan of the series cannot afford to miss 1 game :)

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#65 Darth_DuMas
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After the way Kojima dissed the 360 crowd he would be lucky to sell any copies of this new game unless it scores around 9.5-10. He bet it all on the PS3 and now that the tables have turned a bit he comes running to multiplat development. Much like Crytek the same old tricks aren't going to work this time so they better come up with the goods.

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I don't think Kojima dissed the 360 crowd at all, but i'm still not convinced Kojima isn't a fanboy, I don't even think it was his choice to go multiplat, I would bet Konami made him, they are probably wondering why they have this great franchise and they aren't making use of this 360 market, especially since so many people have requested it for the 360.

Metal Gear Raiden Rising feels somewhat cynical and forced to me. He didn't even want it to be a proper MGS game. Its sounds like a one off to get the crowd off his back.

He looked so uncomfortable at Microsofts E3.

He clearly prefers any PS branded console, I say let him stick to the PS if he wants, he will only be less creative with it if he doesn't want it on the 360.

I sound bitter but i'm not, I played the first 2 games on the PSOne and Xbox and I didn't enjoy them, so i'm probably not getting it for that reason, i'll see how it turns out. I'm looking at this one down the middle and reading inbetween the lines, he just doesn't seem enthusiastic about it to me.

EDIT: I actually hope Kojima all the best, because people work better on what they want with people they want and platforms they want. I hope i'm wrong and this isn't being made for the wrong reasons.

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#66 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="sexxxyboy"]im just not hyped about rising for some reason.LiquidShnake

It if it turns out to be a sequel that takes place after MGS4 I will lose all interest for the game.

It does take place after MGS4. Read the last paragraph. http://www.ps3center.net//news/3529/kojima-peace-walker-in-mgs4-quality/.

Well I just lost the little interest I had for the game.

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#67 Revolution_Ali
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Please dont experiment Rising into a hack n slash :(II_Seraphim_II
Do listen to hime Kojima...I m with you Sera
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[QUOTE="LiquidShnake"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] It if it turns out to be a sequel that takes place after MGS4 I will lose all interest for the game.

jasonharris48

It does take place after MGS4. Read the last paragraph. http://www.ps3center.net//news/3529/kojima-peace-walker-in-mgs4-quality/.

Well I just lost the little interest I had for the game.

Hmm I thought it was going to take place between MGS2 and MGS4, answering the questions about how/why Raiden looks the way he does in MGS4.

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#69 Nero_Paladin
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] That doesn't translate to Hack N Slash.Tessellation
Didn't Kojima confirm it was gonna be Action/Stealth in Konami's keynote?

Yes,he did actually.

So basically it's going to be a action stealth game that plays unlike any other MGS game?

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[QUOTE="LiquidShnake"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] It if it turns out to be a sequel that takes place after MGS4 I will lose all interest for the game.

jasonharris48

It does take place after MGS4. Read the last paragraph. http://www.ps3center.net//news/3529/kojima-peace-walker-in-mgs4-quality/.

Well I just lost the little interest I had for the game.

I'm glad it's set in the future tbh. The best thing about MGS is the story so if it's set between 2 and 4 it can't really have one. This game is looking like it's gonna be **** but at least we'll see what happened to Snake. MGS4 felt nothing like an MGS game and I was hoping with the next one they would return to its roots but obviously not.

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#71 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="LiquidShnake"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] It if it turns out to be a sequel that takes place after MGS4 I will lose all interest for the game.

It does take place after MGS4. Read the last paragraph. http://www.ps3center.net//news/3529/kojima-peace-walker-in-mgs4-quality/.

Well I just lost the little interest I had for the game.

It starts after MGS$? Despite fans crying out tha we wanted to know how raiden became a cyborg in depth??? It would have been great, at the start its a mix of sword play and stealth, as you go along raiden perfects his skills and then for some reason get his gear. Not only that we would have seen the transition from the "age of deterence" to all out war. Saw how nano machines ook over and the PMC Vs malitia war started. Now they must come up with a rediculous reason for [spoiler] raiden to put his stuff back on, even though we know he went through surgery to get the stuff off, plus if it turns out "oh its ok snake didnt die its all fine" i will not be happy... [/spoiler]
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#72 NinjaDuckling
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I am now looking forward to Peace Walker more...for some reason.
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#73 Raiden004
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I assume (or hope) that the experimenting is so that they can do something totally new and different that no other game did beofre. But if its still in that stage in development then I don't plan on seeing MGS: Rising until 2011 or 2012.

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#74 CyberRuler
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No one who i know who owns a 360 cares about mgs, frankly the only people who seem to care are ps3 fanboys.

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Guess it depends on the type of gamers. Most of the people I know with 360's are the type of gamers that only play popular games like Halo, Gears, COD, GTA, Sports games etc... not that there is anything wrong with those games. The few people who I know with 360's that play good games that aren't so popular are the ones that really want a PS3/MGS4. As a matter of fact, I have a lot of friends that plan on getting a PS3 this holiday season and most of them said that MGS4 will be one of the first games they get.

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#75 SionPT
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So a game of raiden ninja after MGS4, when in MGS4 ending e was "restored" to a normal body?

pff no sense. no snake no metal gear, why go forward..

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#76 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="LiquidShnake"] It does take place after MGS4. Read the last paragraph. http://www.ps3center.net//news/3529/kojima-peace-walker-in-mgs4-quality/.Nero_Paladin

Well I just lost the little interest I had for the game.

Hmm I thought it was going to take place between MGS2 and MGS4, answering the questions about how/why Raiden looks the way he does in MGS4.

That's what I was hoping for. Plus taking place after MGS4 what for? The Patriots are gone Raiden said he was done fighting.

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#77 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]it will look betterNonstop-Madness
If it does indeed end up looking better, than Lemmings will probably have enough fuel to last a few years :lol:

not really, cows could always use the "they made a new engine cause the 360 couldnt handle the MGS4 engine" but it'll probably look better cause if there doing a new engine, they'll revise a bunch of things.

Will still look better on the PS3 unless its rushed like other multiplats...
Face it dude, PS3 is 1 year older! Its just technicaly better. Like the original Xbox compared to the PS2...